High-def delivery delays due to replication
Not pirates

20th Century Fox Home Entertainment has had to postpone the release of many BD titles, including Mr. & Mrs. Smith, originally expected March 13, as well as three set for April 3: Me, Myself and Irene; Dude, Where’s My Car; and The Fly.

Fox senior VP of marketing communications Steve Feldstein said there were no production problems with these titles.

“Our release schedule is a fluid thing,” he said. “We came out with Eragon on street date, and we will come out with Night at the Museum” on its April 24 street.

However, other studio sources agree that replication is a key reason behind high-def retail troubles. High-def check discs are returned much more often than standard-def counterparts because studios are still fine-tuning the color processing for BD and HD DVD.

“If you’re still having to go through check discs, and they aren’t up to par and are rejected, then ultimately that causes your timeline to be longer than standard-definition,” said one source. “Production people are working miracles putting out the [high-def] releases as fast as they are.”

http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6430991.html

Hey, I'm all for it.

The number of HD DVD disc error threads is unbeleivable. I'd rather have delays and a disc that is a crap shoot as to whether it will play.

Blu Ray discs for the most part have been problem free.

Hey, I'm all for it.

The number of HD DVD disc error threads is unbeleivable. I'd rather have delays and a disc that is a crap shoot as to whether it will play.

Blu Ray discs for the most part have been problem free.

Yep, it seems like every other HD DVD new release won't play on one player or the other. Thanks to Fox for learning their lesson from the initial release of Speed making sure Blu-ray discs are problem free.

This is another reason to finalize BD-J and get as much consitency in the players as possible to minimise disc errors.

fact of the matter is that we're all beta testers. Hd-dvd & blu-ray. Hd-dvd guys like to point their fingers at the unfinished BR-J issues for BR, well it appears a lot of the hd-dvd disks have errors in them too. Works both ways.

Weird, paidgeek on the insider's thread said that Fox's delays were because of AACS and BD+ and the work Fox is doing in this regard.

Disney doesn't seem to have any issues releasing a large number of titles on BD and are using newer video codecs and more features.

Weird, paidgeek on the insider's thread said that Fox's delays were because of AACS and BD+ and the work Fox is doing in this regard.

Disney doesn't seem to have any issues releasing a large number of titles on BD and are using newer video codecs and more features.

I think you'll find that the answer is somewhere in between.

Let's not forget that Casino Royale has to be replicated 500k+ for Europe. That is taking up a lot of replicators' time.

The first batch of the disc has shipped and people have reported receiving them.

Hey, I'm all for it.

The number of HD DVD disc error threads is unbeleivable. I'd rather have delays and a disc that is a crap shoot as to whether it will play.

Blu Ray discs for the most part have been problem free.

True, there's a lot of threads, but actually there's only a few HD-DVD movies with problems.

True, there's a lot of threads, but actually there's only a few HD-DVD movies with problems.

And some of them are BD Supporters who don't even have an HD DVD Player :D

And some of them are BD Supporters who don't even have an HD DVD Player :D


I agree...they should keep their mouths shut!:D

I think there is more to it...Come on Mr. Steve Feldstein tell us the real reason! :D

True, there's a lot of threads, but actually there's only a few HD-DVD movies with problems.

I sometimes forget that as well. I suppose out of the number of titles released, it is a small percentage. I think I've had problems with about 6 or so (Miami Vice, Hollywoodland, Superman Returns, Jet Li's Fearless, Children of Men, Happy Feet). Although, I haven't even watched 20% of what I own (I think I have about 90+ HD-DVDs).

For me, it just has happened to be a bunch of problem discs in a row. And I honestly have still not had one issue with any Blu-Ray disc on the PS3.

And some of them are BD Supporters who don't even have an HD DVD Player :D


Cuts both ways. HD-DVD fans do the same thing with sugar coated trolling. HD-DVD fan that hate BD on this forum to 'defend their format' is just as pathetic and sad as the BD fanboys that troll over there the same way. "don't call me a troll since I have both players' doesn't make someone less bias, or even true they have both.


But this has nothing to do with BD-J. The article is about replication issues. BD-J would be a mastering and compatibility.

Hey, I'm all for it.

The number of HD DVD disc error threads is unbeleivable. I'd rather have delays and a disc that is a crap shoot as to whether it will play.

Blu Ray discs for the most part have been problem free.

Agreed...just seeing how many threads there are of people who cannot even play their HD-DVD discs on the HD-DVD forum makes me wince :D

The one problem I had with the PS3 was a dirty Dinosaur disc (it was handled by my nephew) which cleared up when i wiped it....

To be fair, you are only really going to see threads when people do have problems. You are unlikely to see a thread started that says "my copy of XYZ works fine!". Personally, I have next to no problems with either format.

If replication is an issue for Fox with Blu-Ray , how is it that Buena Vista and Sony are able to crank out good working 50GB discs? Are they playing favorites in replication? It really ticks me off that Fox didn't even release the 2 movies that made it out on 50GB discs. Fox's total offerings includes, what, one 50GB disc? It all just smells a bit fishy to me.....

I have 101 BD's and have not had to exchange a single one. I have 113 HD-DVD's and have had to exchange over 10. I think all or nealy all were Universal titles. I think Universal has quality-control problem. This is one reason I'm leaning toward Blu a bit.....

I have 101 BD's and have not had to exchange a single one. I have 113 HD-DVD's and have had to exchange over 10. I think all or nealy all were Universal titles. I think Universal has quality-control problem. This is one reason I'm leaning toward Blu a bit.....

And I thought I had to avoid your posts like the plague....

Agreed...just seeing how many threads there are of people who cannot even play their HD-DVD discs on the HD-DVD forum makes me wince :D

The one problem I had with the PS3 was a dirty Dinosaur disc (it was handled by my nephew) which cleared up when i wiped it....Never had a problem with my A2...my ps3 yes...this is my second ps3 first died a early death...and now this. I posted this 2 weeks ago. :rolleyes:

1.6 Problems

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Anybody having problems with freezing with the new 1.6 firmware update...I have only watched 2 movies since the update and both movies froze and skipped. CR and Rocky B. This is the same thing that happened with my first PS3 before it died. I had my brother watch these movies on his Samsung BD and they worked fine...Any suggestions.

I must be one of the lucky ones. Never a single problem with my A2 or my PS3.:) 98 HD DVD's and 24 BR. I did have a few problems with my A1, but the 2.0 firmware fixed the audio issue on one disk for me.

To say that the PS3 is problem free for everyone is stretching the facts pretty hard.

Never had a problem with my A2...my ps3 yes...this is my second ps3 first died a early death...and now this. I posted this 2 weeks ago

You made my point!

The PS3 was the problem in your situation... not the discs (which is the topic here) as they played on the Sammy.

I think some of the HD-DVD issues are player related than bad disc at times. I have about 70 HD-DVD's and had maybe two problems ,the latest Children of Men. I have 25 Blu Ray titles and have one problem, Rocky Babloa had some problems in my Samsung player.

As long as they release their new releaeses i'm happy.

I could care less about their overpriced, with absolutely no features, catalog releases. There is no way I am rebuying a movie I already own on DVD for $27 and have it be COMPLETELY bare bones.

Atleast with a new releases I dont have it on DVD so I dont feel that bad.

Never had a problem with my A2...my ps3 yes...this is my second ps3 first died a early death...and now this. I posted this 2 weeks ago. :rolleyes:

1.6 Problems

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Anybody having problems with freezing with the new 1.6 firmware update...I have only watched 2 movies since the update and both movies froze and skipped. CR and Rocky B. This is the same thing that happened with my first PS3 before it died. I had my brother watch these movies on his Samsung BD and they worked fine...Any suggestions.


You keep saying the same thing over and over....

I asked you to try and connect it straight to the tv & logout of the psn.

Did you try that? If the issue stops, then you probably had a hdmi issue between receiver & ps3. If it doesn't stop, you might have one between the tv & ps3. Just because your hardware is having problems doesn't mean everyone else is. It's well documented that certain models of tvs & receivers do have connectivity problems. That's not to eliminate the ps3 as a possible culprit, but there's not many people complaining that 1.6 is causing their freezing.

It's somewhat unusual that you would get the same problem with both ps3s. I'd suggest you return it for a 3rd. Either what you're describing is something common to a large number of ps3s or there might be something with your setup.

I'd also recommend that you borrow your bro's samsung & hook it up to your setup, and see if the problem reoccurs.

And some of them are BD Supporters who don't even have an HD DVD Player :D

I'll make a witty quote when I find my pot and kettle.....

Thats a pretty crappy reason.

Once again, another innocuous information thread is hijacked and overrun by fanboys in a pissing match. Seriously, do you guys have a clue how crazy your behavior is?

:D

doh!

Fox has released many problem-free titles already so to believe this I think is really turning a blind eye to the truth. Whatever the reason, releasing nothing for long periods of time is going to make unhappy customers of people who spent 1k for a player while looking at a long list of promised movies for this spring

I want "Winged Migration" but it has been posponed according to Amazon until 2025.
I guess there are duplication problems.

http://www.amazon.ca/Winged-Migration-DVD-Jacques-Perrin/dp/B000KC829Y

I sometimes forget that as well. I suppose out of the number of titles released, it is a small percentage. I think I've had problems with about 6 or so (Miami Vice, Hollywoodland, Superman Returns, Jet Li's Fearless, Children of Men, Happy Feet). Although, I haven't even watched 20% of what I own (I think I have about 90+ HD-DVDs).

For me, it just has happened to be a bunch of problem discs in a row. And I honestly have still not had one issue with any Blu-Ray disc on the PS3.

Brandon,

and how many among these are combo discs :rolleyes:

I guess this says it all about HD-DVD disc problems. I myself never had any problem with any of my HD-DVDs - but I refuse to buy combos - so that's my luck.

Interesting information regarding HD-DVD versus Blu-Ray quality control in the insider thread btw. It seems HD-DVD has some inherent problems right now (not being able to simply burn test discs before a production run).