View Full Version : Anyone know about a Barco BG-1200


armystud0911
04-05-07, 09:24 PM
found an auction for one of these and I was wondering if they are any good. I have seen the wonders of CRT, but have also enjoyed the convenience and acceptable quality of digital as well.. Is this a good model to invest in? I see that it is a 9" model and I know that is an excellent place to start. Brightness seems to be very good, as does contrast and image quality. I know it won't do 1920, but the variable resolution sure sounds attractive to me. I am very close to pulling the trigger on a hitachi PJTX100 due to its low price, easy set up and decent quality. I am comtemplating getting a CRT for the basement and moving the hitachi down for movie nights until I raise the funds for a CRT. I am a poor college student so expensive ($4000+) models dont have any appeal to me.

(BTW, I am only poor in the sense that I am paying for all my tuition without loans or parents, I make pretty insane money for a 22 year old student)

none74
04-05-07, 09:33 PM
Of course it will "do" 1920.
It is a 9" graphics grade crt projector it will "do" 1920x1080p at 72Hz without breaking a sweat...
Yes, they are a good projector.
Barco's have HV issues where the EHT board, the splitter or the Quadrupler fail, but other than that, they're pretty stable, well made projectors...

Person99
04-05-07, 09:35 PM
A BG1200 is pretty much at the bottom of the 9" pile. I would take a good 8" LC and maybe a really good AC before it (G70, XG LC, XG, 1208s/2).

Dave

Person99
04-05-07, 09:36 PM
Of course it will "do" 1920.
It is a 9" graphics grade crt projector it will "do" 1920x1080p at 72Hz without breaking a sweat...

I have to disagree with this. The 1200 is not super sharp. I'd be willing to bet you could not get anything close to a reasonable 1 on/1 off out of it.

Dave

Fellenz
04-05-07, 10:57 PM
I think but putting the DO's in quotes he is stating that it will sync to 1920x1080P but will not fully resolve it

Erik

Person99
04-06-07, 10:47 AM
I think but putting the DO's in quotes he is stating that it will sync to 1920x1080P but will not fully resolve it

Erik

You are probably correct. I guess it is because I don't consider just syncing to a signal as "doing" it.

Gunnar
04-07-07, 04:04 AM
I have had several. Never tried 1080P with it, but I think it has the necessary B/W to do it. It also often had the nice HD120 (HD10-GT17) lenses. Watch out for glycol leaks! Open the cover and have a look at the back of the tubes. Have seen this on two of mine. One also had much videonoise that was caused by the convergence card. Easily seen on red colors. It was sharp, and I inststalled colored C-elements for great colors as well. I would not pay much for it today though.

kypha
04-08-07, 01:30 AM
A BG1200 is pretty much at the bottom of the 9" pile. I would take a good 8" LC and maybe a really good AC before it (G70, XG LC, XG, 1208s/2).

Dave

Isn't the BG1200 Barco's equivalent to the Sony 1292? I believe that Ile stated in Curt's forum that they were essentially the same, but the 1200 being quieter.

R.Bauer
04-08-07, 06:20 AM
Not only is the 1200 much quieter than a 1292, but also has twice the lightoutput!

A 1200 with good tubes will give you a very high image quality. A very lively and punchy picture. Things like colored C element and even a calibratition will really make this projector sing. Remeber that a 9" has less work to do than a 8". Keep that in mind when comparing it to a G70 or NEC XG LC.

The most deciding factor in image quality is lightoutput. This can also be interpreted as contrast. The least deciding factor is sharpness or resolution.
These are general terms, but they make a lot of sense when judging an projected image.

So with this theory behind it, the 1200 is an excellent choice, especially for a starter in the world of HT. The Liquid Coupled lenses and the huge lightoutput wil give you a great image. It may not resolve the very last pixel an 1080p image, but that's about the only minor issue with this projector

Ile
04-08-07, 11:08 AM
I have to disagree with this. The 1200 is not super sharp. I'd be willing to bet you could not get anything close to a reasonable 1 on/1 off out of it.

Dave
Here is stock BG1200 with 1080p/72Hz.
http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ennen1fn5.jpg

I think it's pretty good from my $600 BG1200 :) , also screen shot from other non modded projectors (what I have seen) have similar BW issues in vertical 1on/1off bars. That's probably because these projectors was designed for max. 1600 horizontal resolution in mind...

I'm still going to try to get it little better...

Ile
04-08-07, 11:11 AM
Not only is the 1200 much quieter than a 1292, but also has twice the lightoutput!And without streaking. :cool:

Vic C
04-12-07, 07:43 PM
I agree with the need to check for CRT leeks as I had a 1200 that the red tubeb leaked all its coolent out.

They are all modular so they are supposed to be easy to swap parts. I had one that had a screwed up power supply and it was repaired 2 X.

They are supposed to be able to display 1080p. I would honestly look at maby an 808s. I think you will get just about the same results from an 808s as you would from an older 1200.

Saeid
04-12-07, 09:03 PM
I have BG1200, that was a upgrade for me from BG808 and really have had no problem with it, There is a big difference in picture quality between the two. a 1200 set up properly will look as good as a any 1209.
With any old CRT it is a good idea to check every thing before you set it up permanently.