Jason Turk sent me an email saying that the DVDO VP30 does not match up well with the Sony Pearl as it can't do the proper scaling....

I was hoping someone could suggest a product with similar price (or cheaper ;)) / feature set.

the one thing i really liked about the vp20/30 was the precision de-interlacing card, so i'd want that kind of thing in any other unit i'd buy.

any help is much appreciated, normally i'd do more research but i'm very time constrained on this project...so i look forward to any suggestions.

thanks

I have a VP30 and a Pearl and it works, however, it does not pass the native 1080P from my Samsung BluRay player. I have to pump out video at 1080i and then let the Pearl pump it up to 1080P
That being said, the VP30 is suppose to get new firmware, according to DVDO. Also, I understand the the VP50 has some capabilites to output 1080p/24.

Good Luck

hmm.....

i don't really think the vp50 is in my budget, but if they had some new firmware on the way that could fix those scaling issues, then i'd feel much better about getting that unit.

thanks for the info....

anyone else know anything about all this?

Since you're on a budget, I would save your money and skip buying an external scaler for the Pearl. Get an inexpensive HiDef DVD player instead.

i don't ever plan to own blu-ray or hd-dvd, i'm sort of protesting that format.... i was looking to get a dish 622, and try to improve the quality of all the older SD format stuff I have.

another reason was I decided not to run a bunch of wires, and instead just run one HDMI cable to the projector (in the walls) and have everything upconverted to that.

what i don't understand is that the dvdo vp30 says it can handle 1080p, so whats the deal, why doesn't it scale properly to the pearl?

Jason Turk sent me an email saying that the DVDO VP30 does not match up well with the Sony Pearl as it can't do the proper scaling....

I was hoping someone could suggest a product with similar price (or cheaper ;)) / feature set.

the one thing i really liked about the vp20/30 was the precision de-interlacing card, so i'd want that kind of thing in any other unit i'd buy.

any help is much appreciated, normally i'd do more research but i'm very time constrained on this project...so i look forward to any suggestions.

thanks


Have you thought about getting a Lumagen HDP instead? It's not as expensive as the DVDO VP30. Read this post (#80):

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=778292&page=3&pp=30
http://www.lumagen.com/testindex.php?module=products

The following examples refer to content that is encoded in progressive-scan form during recording or transmission—what would be considered "native" progressive signals. However, where 24 fps film-based material is concerned, a 1080i encoded/transmitted stream can become a true "1080p" signal during playback by deinterlacing to re-combine the split field pairs into progressive film-scanned frames. Regarding 24 fps film-source material presented in conventional 1080i60 form, the deinterlacing process that achieves this goal is usually referred to as "3:2 pulldown reversal" [also known as "inverse telecine"]. The importance of this is that, where film-based content is concerned, all 1080-interlaced signals are potentially 1080p signals given the proper deinterlacing. As long as no additional image-degradation steps were applied during signal mastering (such as excessive vertical-pass filtering), the image from a properly deinterlaced film-source 1080i signal and a native-encoded 1080p signal will look approximately the same. It should be noted that Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD sources are 1080p with no vertical filtering, therefore, 1080i output from players can be perfectly reconstructed to 1080p with 3:2 pulldown reversal.

As more and more processors and displays come to market able to apply 3:2 pulldown reversal to film-based 1080i60 signals, the amount of available "1080p" content for viewing expands (encompassing film-based 1080i60 feeds from broadcast HD, cable, and satellite).



i don't see why having 1080i sources is an issue assuming the above....

posted that before i saw yours rich.... i'll look into those....

damn those lumagens use dvi.... i just ordered a bunch of hdmi - hdmi cables for use with all my stuff...

damn those lumagens use dvi.... i just ordered a bunch of hdmi - hdmi cables for use with all my stuff...

Monoprice.com to the rescue!

Ok, I'm intrigued. I'm a noob with some disposable income. What exactly do these things do? I have a RXV2700 with C/V-HDMI straight to the Sony Pearl.

jason is recommending the lumagen vision HDQ.... only thing about that unit is it doesn't handle the audio.... so i'd need a seperate switcher for that...

i plan to pipe all digital audio through my musical fidelity DAC, then to an x-10 tube buffer.... and then hopefully someday I can afford a Jolida JD1000RC and some new speakers ;)

no doubt about monoprice for the digital adapters... analog i might go with bluejean though, or god help me bettercables.com ;)

just for reference .... i went with the lumagen vision hdq....

thanks for the help guys... love this forum...

hope they change the (default) colors someday though ;)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Chong
jason is recommending the lumagen vision HDQ.... only thing about that unit is it doesn't handle the audio.... so i'd need a seperate switcher for that...



Alan uses this with a $200 outboard HDMI switcher with audio follow. I seen it in action. No downsides.

just for reference .... i went with the lumagen vision hdq....

thanks for the help guys... love this forum...



Looking forward to your report on how this combo works together! :)

stuff is shipping out today... so maybe by sometime next week i can give my initial impressions with & without the processor... for what it's worth.

yvonne... which outboard switcher? i'd be curious to see. i just have a cheap audio authority digital audio (and component video) switcher that i used to use, dosn't work all that well though.... but i suppose it does get the job done.

stuff is shipping out today... so maybe by sometime next week i can give my initial impressions with & without the processor... for what it's worth.




Yes, that would be great if you will do that.

well not much to report here except that i might have a defective lumagen unit.... otherwise i could never recommend this to anyone, ever.... having terrible luck so far.... it's only made things look worse. (and i've done alot of testing, with many input/output scenarios).

thinking maybe refund/exchange for a dvdo vp50...

I heard the learning curve is high on the Lumagen, could some settings be wrong?
It seems Jas wouldn't reccommend a product that didn't work well with each other or like you said it could be defective.

scott