I was looking at some of the charts Sony released about the sales and stuff and there is one where they broke down studio support.

http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/4390_large_studios.png

If you look at Warner, they've released 61 titles on HD DVD, but 38 on Blu-Ray. Since Warner's excuse for that disparity is IME not working on BD's properly, do they really have 23 movies with IME already? That's pretty impressive. I guess I dont keep up with HD DVD that much, I had no idea BD was missing almost 40% of whats available on HD DVD.

Does anyone have a list of all the movies with IME?

Off the top of my head, I've got The Adventures of Robin Hood, Casablanca, and Forbidden Planet on HD-DVD and none of those have IME, yet all 3 are exclusive to the format at the moment.

Mutiny on the Bounty and Grand Prix are non-IME titles not on BD yet.

theres quite a few, and they all are pretty sweet. U Control on titles like Fast and the Furious toyko drift is also pretty impressive. It would suck if you would need a newer bluray player to use the IME etc .

MI3 has IME on HDDVD yet still came to Blu-ray without, so that argument has never quite rang true. I wouldn't shed one bloody tear about losing IME. Neat novelty, I suppose, but has very limited reusability IMO.

Right, just an example that neither IME nor VC1 are credible obstacles to doing a great Blu-ray presentation. And if they MUST ( :rolleyes: ) for some reason have IME, then do it Lionsgate style and preferably put it on a second disc I can never bother to remove from the sleeve.

Smacks of favoritism.
At least they're releasing movies on both formats. Exclusive studios REALLY sound like favoritism. ;)

At least they're releasing movies on both formats. Exclusive studios REALLY sound like favoritism. ;)

At least exclusive studios tell you like it is and back up their words with actions. Paramount is the only neutral studio. WB supports both formats but are by no means neutral although they'll tell BD owners they are all day long.

LOL.... Sony included Lionsgate on the Blu-Ray list and omitted Weinstien from HD-DVD's list. I wonder if Sony ever publishes information that isn't manipulated in their favor. ----Edit---- My bad... as benes pointed out, Genius is Weinstien. I retract my comments about the list.

Warner still has a lot of catching up to do. I can't think of any reason why a title like Casablanca is not on blu-ray yet. It doesn't even need a BD50. Smacks of favoritism.OMG... Smacks of favortism??? Like Sony, MGM, Buena Vista, Disney, Fox, Weinstien, and Universal?

JEEZ! I'm so sick of the claims about Warner when they are doing the best they can to support both formats without bankrupting their HD division. It's not Warners fault that BD-J isn't finalized and the authoring tools offer almost zero documentation. It's not Warners fault that HD-DVD and Microsoft have done a much better job of making authoring easier for them. It seems to me that TotalHD is as nuetral as it gets.

Off the top of my head, I've got The Adventures of Robin Hood, Casablanca, and Forbidden Planet on HD-DVD and none of those have IME, yet all 3 are exclusive to the format at the moment.

I don't have Robin Hood or Casablanca but I do have Forbidden Planet. Using that as an example I think Warners problem w/BD may have to do with space constraints.

The HD DVD of FP is a feature laden disc w/2 full length features (The Invisible Boy and FP), multiple featurettes, 2 tv show episodes, commentary tracks and more and this all fits on a HD DVD - 30. I think if Warner tried to replicate the experience on BD they might need to use a BD 50 disc instead of the Warner preferred BD 25 (see Happy Feet and Road Warrior).

Most likely a BD 50 would have a retail price of about $24.99 while the the HD DVD 30 version would retail for about $19.99. Imagine the uproar BD fans would make if they had to pay more than the HD DVD version of a Warner title.

In Warner's defense it's easier to just hold off some releases to BD while the tech gets worked out than to deal with the customer service nightmare they would surely run into.

Off the top of my head, I've got The Adventures of Robin Hood, Casablanca, and Forbidden Planet on HD-DVD and none of those have IME, yet all 3 are exclusive to the format at the moment.

Given the sales of those titles on HD-DVD maybe WHV is waiting for the market on both sides to grow before releasing these titles on Blu-Ray. Granted these catalog titles did sell as well or better than Good Night/Good Luck.

Given the sales of those titles on HD-DVD maybe WHV is waiting for the market on both sides to grow before releasing these titles on Blu-Ray. Granted these catalog titles did sell as well or better than Good Night/Good Luck.

Well that sucks for the Blu-ray exclusive crowd. Those are 3 classic films. Robin Hood in particular was a pleasant surprise when I heard it announced for HD-DVD. Give me that any day over recent titles that are only good for high def eye candy(*cough* Sony, Fox *cough*).

I don't think the space constraint argument works. There have been PLENTY of Warner BD50s already.

WB has released plenty of BD50's (Departed, Superman Returns) yet take a look at the blu ray versions of The Dirty Dozen and Enter the Dragon. On HD DVD these two discs were released on HD 30's. The blu ray versions have the same features, same codecs and I assume same bit rates as their HD DVD counterparts yet WB has decided to release DD and EtD on BD 50's.

It's gotta be the space.

At least Amazon has both versions listed for the same price of $19.95.

Or is your point that they don't have enough BD50s?

I think that WB just doesn't want to spend the extra money for BD 50's when most of the time a BD 25 works just fine for them (at least for the older catalog releases). BD 50's may not cost as much today as they did maybe 6 months ago but I'm sure there's a little extra premium for them as opposed to the 25's.

It certainly looks like BD-50's are rationed for the time being. Who knows what Warner's share is?

Where is "The Perfect Storm"...?

MI3 has IME on HDDVD yet still came to Blu-ray without, so that argument has never quite rang true. I wouldn't shed one bloody tear about losing IME. Neat novelty, I suppose, but has very limited reusability IMO.


I wouldnt call it a novelty. Sometimes they are pretty in depth and pretty intresting. I usually like having a IME or U Control rather then having seprate features.

WB said at CES prior to launch that some titles would have a period of exclusivity on HD DVD before they were ported over. I don't understand why some people are crying foul now that this is the case.

It's no different than Playstation or XBOX having a period of exclusivity on titles.

I've said it before and I'll probably say it many more times, be damn grateful WB is supporting BD at all because it wouldn't even exist without them.

If you're feeling short-changed, there's an extremely obvious solution.
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-HD-A2-HD-DVD-Player/dp/B000IJV4BC******pd_bbs_sr_1/104-7946948-2800737?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1176316883&sr=1-1
Kwitcherbichen'.

I wouldnt call it a novelty. Sometimes they are pretty in depth and pretty intresting. I usually like having a IME or U Control rather then having seprate features.

I was a bit intruiged by Miami Vice's U control (particularly the Google Earth stuff), but have you really watched any U-control or IME more than once? Maybe I'm not representative of your average Joe, but I have yet to do so...

I prefer the type of the comic book/trivia blurbs on X3, which are far more old school than bleeding-edge next gen. My biggest desire is for seamless branching/deletedscene/extended cuts over any other type of extra.

I was a bit intruiged by Miami Vice's U control (particularly the Google Earth stuff), but have you really watched any U-control or IME more than once? Maybe I'm not representative of your average Joe, but I have yet to do so...

I prefer the type of the comic book/trivia blurbs on X3, which are far more old school than bleeding-edge next gen. My biggest desire is for seamless branching/deletedscene/extended cuts over any other type of extra.
These things haven't even been out a year yet. I'm sure I'll watch at least some of them more than once, Batman Begins for example.

Be aware that some of them are searchable. You just press right to jump to the next video segment so it's not unlike watching any other feature, just cooler.

Oh, Jesus people, Stop Nagging! Just enjoy the formats and stop this fighting..

Just me?