View Full Version : what kind of HDTV IS BETTER FOR GAMING


tenkaix
04-11-07, 01:13 AM
over the next few months im going to try to read as much as i can about HDTVS because im planing on purchasing one in about 5 months time. now supposedly the AQUOS is made for gaming or so says "SHARP" but i dont want to get into that right now my first question has to do with the types. basically all i want to know is what is the best kind of tv for gaming

1.CRT HDTV

2.LCD HDTV

3. PLASMA HDTV

4. LCD PLASMA HDTV

keep in mind im talking about the way the game looks and if you do know which one plz recomend something im open to suggestions. of course im on a budget so no 1080P for me just 720P and 1080I...but yeah thats my first question. and also its not just the next gen consoles that im talking about i also mean PS2 games as well. i am well aware of game lag on HDTVs, so if you can recommend some tvs that be awsome thanks guys, i heard this was the best forum for this kinda stuff so i joined.

thanks again.

todrigo
04-11-07, 03:08 PM
not many folks will respond to your post here (in the general gaming help room), I would get into the forum for the particular console you will be using and look around many threads have been started asking the same thing

grif32
04-11-07, 04:57 PM
LCD is the best but plasma's are great as well. I have both and have gamed on both for 4 years now. Now problem with burn in with the plasma.

Chris

Trebuken
04-11-07, 09:07 PM
A 34" CRT or an LCD in that size range would be great. I'd scratch Plasma off; plasmas are less cost effective (usually) and the models that are cheaper are cheaper.

I's aim for a DLP if you could. Do some homework on 720p models, some have issues with gaming (Samsung I think).

We'd probably need a better idea of your budget to answer better. Gaming is great on all types of HDTV's, though each category has a model or two to stay away from.

Bigger is better with gaming...personal experience again.

tenkaix
04-12-07, 12:57 AM
ok well around 1500 is my limit, i found a 32 inch AQUOS, i was thinking of buying that one, it doesnt go up to 1080P the highest is goes is "720P" and "1080I".

i just want to steer clear of TV that cant handle gaming. for exmaple i didnt knwo the SAMSUNG LCD's suck i honestly was thinking of getting one, cause i saw a PLASMA LCD for $1000, i thought it was a good deal but then i though why ?? would it be ?? its a plasma those things are expensive, but yeah im not even thinking 1080P right now im honestly thinking i will get a 720 P tv, but if you guys can throw around a couple of good brands that would help.

also the game consoles as i said before that i will be playing are the Wii, XBOX 360, PS3 and PS2 thats about it. i just need to know what tvs have less problems with lag.

and just to make sure one last time, the lag problem is with games from last gen ? not next gen games right ??

jkoch6599
04-12-07, 12:01 PM
What is a plasma LCD? I think you're making that up.

tenkaix
04-12-07, 02:45 PM
no really its a plasma LCD HDTV samsung has them

madh83
04-12-07, 07:58 PM
Samsung LCDs are some of the best and work fine for games as well...i think their the only ones with gaming mode which cuts down on the lag. You might be thinking of their DLPs, also there is no such thing as a Plasma LCD, it must have been mislabeled.

Trebuken
04-12-07, 11:28 PM
Tough price range. If you have any stores that sell floor models or returned sets at a discount I'd look at some DLP's, you might find something in your range. I've seen some floor model 1080P Aquous sets for less than $2,000. With some of the sets you will want the extended warranty as well, which runs up the price...

I think you should save a bit more and go for A Sony SXRD, or another DLP. 32" is too small for HD unless you have no choice due to space constraints.

tenkaix
04-13-07, 12:22 AM
another thing ive been hearing, is that if you have a 32 inch LCD HDTV, 1080P doenst exisit for that size LCD, and even if it did, you wouldnt be able to tell the diffrence, because of the size of the screen ?? is that true ?? you only need 1080P if you own a 42 inch or over. is that true ??

and if so why ??

ValkyrieStation
04-13-07, 07:51 PM
If I had a dime every time someone asked that question about 1080p.. There is (or at least will be) a 1080p 32" model coming out. I think Sharp makes one of them...and there are a few other 37" or so 1080p models (I think Westinghouse made one). Being able to detect the difference of 1080p is subjective. You may, but I may not. I may need a bigger screen than you to see the difference. I refuse to be part of the debate about what the magic number is to start to see the difference, so I'll leave that to you research or to someone else to argue. My point is that the answer is subjective.

Anyway, what is this Samsung plasma LCD TV you're referring to? Because I've never seen such a TV as being advertised as being both "Plasma LCD". It's one or the other...Hence there being two separate forums dedicated to each technology in AVS.

Anyway, my ranking of the technologies for gaming go like:
CRT
LCD

CRT is great but it's got size restrictions obviously. LCD is a safe bet, but get something high quality with a decent response time or wait until new technology helps further improve...you should be OK. I can honestly say I have never once witnessed motion blur on my LCD TV. That doesn't mean that no motion blur exsits on it, just that I personally can't detect any (and if there is any, my eyes may not be configured to look for it). I have tried NES to PS3 on the LCD TV I have via HDMI and everything looks great. I came to LCD after spending 20+ years with CRT, which is supposed to be the best technology of them all. The reason I have LCD 2nd is simply because I know people out there DO detect ghosting on their LCD TVs, and other flaws. The answer to your question is purely subjective in nature...and I suggest you just look at a TV in person to find the best one.

jedimastergrant
04-16-07, 12:16 AM
Here are some basics. Check out cnet for an hdtv guide. Any new hdtv will probably be ok for gaming but each have their quirks. My suggestion is to take your consoles in and hook them up to see for yourself. That is what I did and it became apparent that Plasma offered the best picture so that is what I got. very happy I did. I game for many hours at a time with no burn in.

Also, do not worry about getting a 720p instead of a 1080p unless you are going over 50" and sitting very close.


CRT

adv.
best picture overall
best for gaming
able to scale resolutions therefore will be be best picture for non hd consoles

disadv.
large footprint
not a big screen



Plasma

adv.
best picture of a big screen
no ghosting
no lag
will be second best picture for non hd consoles

disadv.
glare in a bright room
burn in if you are completely irresponsible


LCD

adv.
better than plasma in a bright room (but will also "wash out" in a bright room)

disadv.
ghosting
inferior picture


RP

adv.
good bang for the buck for a lg screen

disadv.
gaming lag
inferior picture

(there are many other considerations of course)

PS watch out for people trying to vindicate their own purchases. I have disclosed my own bias but tried to be as honest as possible. Just get whatever technology you prefer. You are the one watching it, not some other forum member.

RedBull808
04-16-07, 07:27 PM
A 34" CRT or an LCD in that size range would be great. I'd scratch Plasma off; plasmas are less cost effective (usually) and the models that are cheaper are cheaper.

I's aim for a DLP if you could. Do some homework on 720p models, some have issues with gaming (Samsung I think).

We'd probably need a better idea of your budget to answer better. Gaming is great on all types of HDTV's, though each category has a model or two to stay away from.

Bigger is better with gaming...personal experience again.


i'd agree with the dlp here is a great article that just came out

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/04/10/wall_sized_3d_displays/

this is what i'm planing on doing but I need to figure out what the viewing distance is w/the 3d glasses but i wont hi-jack your thread and ill make mine own. but dlp is looking the way to go (TO ME)

Inkling
04-21-07, 06:24 PM
CRTs have no lag. If a CRT meets your needs, that's the way to go.

Plasmas are not "less cost effective than LCDs," as another poster said. Check the prices and features of 42" plasmas. Great ones can be had for $1000 right now.

LCDs have slower pixel refresh rates than plasma. You'll probably notice ghosting as a gamer. Unless you need the set for a computer monitor, I'd stay away.

Last year's Samsungs have problems with false contouring. And they claim game mode only reduces the set's lag by 70%, which is a tacit admission of the remaining lag.

The Panasonic 60U/600U series has the best reputation for minimal-to-no gaming lag. Many people on this forum have resported such. I've run hands-on tests and seen a lag of less than 1 frame on a 50" 60U. My nieghbor has a 42" 60U and we game on it a lot, with no perceivable lag.

llama34
04-21-07, 07:30 PM
Dude get the Toshiba Regza 42HL67. It's within your price range, 720p (1080p is for suckers at 42") and my 360 looks like GOLD on this set.

ChicagoCatfish
04-22-07, 03:09 PM
Hello and thank you for any reponse in advance. I have been reading many, many threads on HDTV's and am about to move forward with the purchase of one. To give you background, I will be watching many movies, sporting events and play my PS3 and XBOX360 probably about 30% of the time while it is in use.

My budget is between $3000 and $4000, I am looking for a 50" plus 1080P HDTV.

I am very torn between Plasma and LCD. I am worried about burn in with plasma due to the fact that someone WILL leave the tv on for an extended period of time on a channel like Fox news and I will most likely get burn in. I could make sure for the first 100 to 150 hours there would be no static images on the screen, but afterwards, I would assume the worst. Quick question - Can burn in happen after the initial break in period of 100 or 150 hours?

Additionally, I read about ghosting, gaming lag, etc particularily around LCDs.

My inclination is towards a SONY KDL XBR Series or Samsung LNS series, and Sharp Aquos (but the banding issues I am hearing of is definately taking a toll on my paranoia), but am also open to a high end plasma, if it falls witihn my price range. As you can tell, my head is swirling here, any input is appreciated. Thank you and if I am misinformed with my generalist statments please reply..... :)

Inkling
04-22-07, 03:17 PM
Plasmas are most succeptible during the first 100 hours, but burn-in can happen any time.

There's no need to stress, though. Do a proper break-in procedure, like using the Burn-In DVD mentioned in the Plasma forums. Try not to leave a static image on the screen for several hours. But don't worry. Burn-in is yesterday's news. It takes a lot more punishment than you'll give it to burn in a current-gen plasma.

ZippyBongHits
04-24-07, 02:30 PM
Here are some basics. Check out cnet for an hdtv guide. Any new hdtv will probably be ok for gaming but each have their quirks. My suggestion is to take your consoles in and hook them up to see for yourself. That is what I did and it became apparent that Plasma offered the best picture so that is what I got. very happy I did. I game for many hours at a time with no burn in.

Also, do not worry about getting a 720p instead of a 1080p unless you are going over 50" and sitting very close.


CRT

adv.
best picture overall
best for gaming
able to scale resolutions therefore will be be best picture for non hd consoles

disadv.
large footprint
not a big screen



Plasma

adv.
best picture of a big screen
no ghosting
no lag
will be second best picture for non hd consoles

disadv.
glare in a bright room
burn in if you are completely irresponsible


LCD

adv.
better than plasma in a bright room (but will also "wash out" in a bright room)

disadv.
ghosting
inferior picture


RP

adv.
good bang for the buck for a lg screen

disadv.
gaming lag
inferior picture

(there are many other considerations of course)

PS watch out for people trying to vindicate their own purchases. I have disclosed my own bias but tried to be as honest as possible. Just get whatever technology you prefer. You are the one watching it, not some other forum member.

This might have been true 5 years ago but now Plasma is clearly the best platform for gaming on a big screen.

CRT is a dead technology, the few sets that were considered quality units have been discontinued for years now and were only available in small sizes under 36".


I'd take a quality plasma over ANY other type of technology when it comes to HDTV programming, movies and gaming.


LCD's are getting better too, and they have great looking pictures on screens with no or minimal motion, but still have too much motion blur which ruins obviously hurts screen sharpness and resolution significantly.