I CANNOT believe the graphics for this type of game!

ttp://pix.nofrag.com/88/ae/666aa4149b80c88359802aaab574.jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/b0/f0/5994fdc05db69ed08627f50c1166.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7033/p5110407xq0.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7126/p5110435sk4.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2350/p5110438bi4.jpg

After looking at these screens, I actually believe the Getaway being developed for PS3 is more feasable now!

EDIT-No planes so far in the game. It REALLY sucks that there aren't, but I guess it's understandable due to 9/11 and all.

-The protagonist's name is Niko Bellic.
-Multiplayer is to be announced.
-You can use a cellphone to call your contacts.
-No planes..?
-"You have a lot of choice over what you want to do."
-Game Informer played the Xbox demo.
-Dan Houser explains that "a big part of New York life is walking the streets and meeting lunatics", and this is something they definitely tried to put into the game.

These look fantastic! I wonder if the trailer was made from an earlier build. I love the very subtle cartoony kind of style instead of just a generic, realistic look.

As a Sunni, I find the title of this thread offensive :p

This is definitely a must buy for me. Great attention to detail for a sandbox game. Are those porta-potties in the background of pic #1?

Looking good.

As a Sunni, I find the title of this thread offensive

lol. Sorry about that. I just threw the word out, but I didn't expect anyone to be a sunni on this board. :D

lol. Sorry about that. I just threw the word out, but I didn't expect anyone to be a sunni on this board.

I think that was playful sarcasm, my friend :D

Oops.

Those screenshots are from a 360 is word on the street. Looks good nonetheless.

As a Sunni, I find the title of this thread offensive :p

LOL :)

Are those porta-potties in the background of pic #1?

I think they're bumpers for the el track support beams.

Those screenshots are from a 360 is word on the street. Looks good nonetheless.

I read that, too. There is no reason the PS3 version should look any less than this, though.

I think they're bumpers for the el track support beams.

Oh.

I looked at the ones on the left side, and they sure looked like porta-johns at first glance, but I think you're right. Don't mind me.

I read that, too. There is no reason the PS3 version should look any less than this, though.

Well, every port so far has seemed to suffer a bit. It will be a bummer if the game was made for the 360 and ported to the PS3...

Ubisoft doesn't do that great of a job using this process.

I'm not totally up-to-date on all the GTAIV info, but hearing that the games will be identical on the 360's DVD-9 disc and the PS3's Blu-Ray bothers me... I mean, if anything, I'd want them to fill that 25 gb up with unique audio for the music/talk radio stations...

And then exclusive episodic content on the 360 only? I gotta wonder what they're doing.. .This franchise was made by PS2 users... their biggest fanbase is surely still there. And by release date, the install base (ps3 v 360) should be relatively close.

Well, every port so far has seemed to suffer a bit. It will be a bummer if the game was made for the 360 and ported to the PS3...

Ubisoft doesn't do that great of a job using this process.

I'm not totally up-to-date on all the GTAIV info, but hearing that the games will be identical on the 360's DVD-9 disc and the PS3's Blu-Ray bothers me... I mean, if anything, I'd want them to fill that 25 gb up with unique audio for the music/talk radio stations...

And then exclusive episodic content on the 360 only? I gotta wonder what they're doing.. .This franchise was made by PS2 users... their biggest fanbase is surely still there. And by release date, the install base (ps3 v 360) should be relatively close.

The 3 versions are being made concurrently. There's no porting here.

Also, at the very least. The PS3 version will have better audio simply because of the BD.

The 3 versions are being made concurrently.


3 versions? Surely the Wii can't handle this....

3 versions? Surely the Wii can't handle this....
I believe the 3rd version is PC?

I just hope they smooth and perfect the charachter movements in the new one. The movements in all previous GTA were terribly jumpy. Graphical improvements alone cant make this game.

The PC versions previous trailed by a year or more... I know because I preferred Vice City on PC. Unfortunately, I couldn't wait for the PC version and got the PS2 version of San Andreas.

I definitely hope we see more unique content between the two or it will be a hard choice between the 360 and PS3 versions. IF the PS3 version maximizes the use of the 25GB Blu-ray and/or the PS's superior CPU power, I will go that way. If they're the same, then I'm likely to go to the 360 version since it looks like it will have better content support (at least for now). If PSN/Home can match the 360's support, then I'll flip a coin or something. :D

PC is being made, though you're right. Not sure if it'll come out same time as the two main consoles.

Any of you guys follow the financial markets? Take-two is having difficulties.

I'm guessing we'll see it on the PC as well sooner rather than later. IIRC the company isn't exactly wildly profitable right now.

The PC versions previous trailed by a year or more... I know because I preferred Vice City on PC. Unfortunately, I couldn't wait for the PC version and got the PS2 version of San Andreas.

I definitely hope we see more unique content between the two or it will be a hard choice between the 360 and PS3 versions. IF the PS3 version maximizes the use of the 25GB Blu-ray and/or the PS's superior CPU power, I will go that way. If they're the same, then I'm likely to go to the 360 version since it looks like it will have better content support (at least for now). If PSN/Home can match the 360's support, then I'll flip a coin or something. :D


They will make all versions look and play the same. Lowest common denominator. MS and Sony are their clients. They don't want to piss of either. Only exclusives will push either system, epecially the PS3 due to its unique architecture.

For gameplay and resolution, this is likely the same. I COULD see them offer extra content like maps, "episodes", vehicles, etc from the PS3 at launch that the 360 will be using as a batch of download content. Some of it could be free or spread through the payed installments that we're mostly hearing about for the 360. This way the end result is the same (same development, payed out, etc) but more stuff simply fits on the 25GB Blu-ray than the 9GB DVD for the 360 version.

THEN they diverge to their microtransaction differentiation. Even so, I'd see similar effort taken on each system even if names and particulars might differ for the different unique versions...

As a Sunni, I find the title of this thread offensive :p

LMAO
Seen Sleeper Cell before? An interrogator says,"I'll be back, have to take a shiite." lol
This game looks awesome ... can't wait ... but the one thing I'm really waiting to hear about is multiplayer. What a game it would be to be able to play online with it.
EDIT: Boo ... just found that it won't be MMO-type so thats already kind of a downer.

looking very good...keep up the good work.

how can you possibly judge anything by those scans? i can't see any detail at all

I can. Look at his hands in the first picture. So amazing. This game will truly be amazing.

I can. Look at his hands in the first picture. So amazing. This game will truly be amazing.


lol based on what? some screenshots scanned from a magazine? man you're easy to please. or are you secretly beta testing the game and we just don't know about it?

I"m not easy to please. The lighting and geometry looked good in the trailer, and from what I've read that was mentioned in EGM, the trailer was actually from an old build. R*'s RAGE engine is impressive.

i got every Grand Theft Auto game and imma continue doing that, but Grand Theft Auto IV looks like its gonna be the best one...this is a game im definately gettin...

when is this game Released?

Well, every port so far has seemed to suffer a bit. It will be a bummer if the game was made for the 360 and ported to the PS3...

Ubisoft doesn't do that great of a job using this process.

I'm not totally up-to-date on all the GTAIV info, but hearing that the games will be identical on the 360's DVD-9 disc and the PS3's Blu-Ray bothers me... I mean, if anything, I'd want them to fill that 25 gb up with unique audio for the music/talk radio stations...

And then exclusive episodic content on the 360 only? I gotta wonder what they're doing.. .This franchise was made by PS2 users... their biggest fanbase is surely still there. And by release date, the install base (ps3 v 360) should be relatively close.

*sigh* as soon as whats his face announced exclusive content, Rockstar came out and stated the ps3 will have its own as well. you do realize this right?

OPM UK just did a preview. It seems to cover all the same territory as the GI article but I did spot a couple of new pictures. The scans are better quality too.

Hi-res scans are here: http://www.gameswank.com/?p=291

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e359/oddbodyAS2/ps3/n3.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e359/oddbodyAS2/ps3/n2.jpg



I'm not sure if this ones new
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e359/oddbodyAS2/ps3/n1.jpg

I can't believe how good the graphics look for a sandbox game.

Diggin' the new look :D

After looking at these screens, I actually believe the Getaway being developed for PS3 is more feasable now!

EDIT-No planes so far in the game. It REALLY sucks that there aren't, but I guess it's understandable due to 9/11 and all.


the reason for not having planes doesnt have to do with 9/11 (think about it, san andreas came out 3 years after 9/11 and had planes). Its because they want the game to be more realistic, and someone who has never flown a plane hopping in one and taking off is not exactly feasible in life.

the reason for not having planes doesnt have to do with 9/11 (think about it, san andreas came out 3 years after 9/11 and had planes). Its because they want the game to be more realistic, and someone who has never flown a plane hopping in one and taking off is not exactly feasible in life.
But flying a helicopter is? There is supposed to be helicopters in this game that you can fly around in.

EDIT:
Kobe Asks: I heard that you can’t fly in Liberty City anymore. What is up with that?! Flying is one of my favorite parts of this series!

This is incorrect. There are no airplanes in the game, but flying is still there. One means of this is the helicopter. As Dan pointed out, this is just one city and a plane really doesn’t fit into that very well for gameplay. Flying is still very much a large part of the game.
Source (http://www.gta4.net/news/3864/game-informers-gta-iv-qa--the-answers-are-in/).

Are we sure the PS3 version is a port and not the other way around meaning the xbox 360 version is a port of the PS3 version....

If this is old news, I apologize, but a trailer showed up on my PS3 tonight for GTA4, that I had not even downloaded. I noticed it after I played a movie. Looks cool. Still wondering how it got there, since I need to do the update.

the way games are developed they have 3 different rendering methods depending on platform. (PC, ps3, 360) The thing is if the engine they're using is usually targeted to a specific console ps3 or 360. Since they're architecturally different one will suffer.

Here are some quotes from an interview OPM UK had with Dan Houser, which I found to be quite interesting:


OPM UK: How has the team found cross-developing for PS3 and Xbox?

DH: It's a challenge.



OPM UK: On PS3 you've got a guarantee that every machine is going to have a hard drive and, with Blu-ray, you've got plenty of storage, wheras on Xbox 360 there's no guarantee of a hard drive and you're workng with the DVD format. Does that create limitations?

DH: Yep. To be honest with you we haven't solved all those riddles yet. Both of them have enormous challenges. Again, that's been an advantage of having the guys at San Diego who are freakishly clever and full-time dedicated to us, but we're not there with either [format] yet. There are problems on both. We'll get there with both, but both have their own particular pleasures and pains.

OPM UK: Any plans to use the Sixaxis motion sensitivity?

DH: Again, haven't fully decided. We're just fiddling around with all that stuff. If it's not fun, then definitely not. It's not the kind of thing we do just to say we've put it in. If we can figure out something to do with it, then of course.

Don't see any reason to implement Sixaxis into this game but whatever.

Don't see any reason to implement Sixaxis into this game but whatever.Hmmm, Hot Coffee mini-game maybe? :)

hopefully the new dualshockaxis or whatever they are going to call it will be out by then so we can vibration in the game.

this is a must buy for me.

thanks
anthony

After looking at these screens, I actually believe the Getaway being developed for PS3 is more feasable now!

EDIT-No planes so far in the game. It REALLY sucks that there aren't, but I guess it's understandable due to 9/11 and all.

-The protagonist's name is Niko Bellic.
-Multiplayer is to be announced.
-You can use a cellphone to call your contacts.
-No planes..?
-"You have a lot of choice over what you want to do."
-Game Informer played the Xbox demo.
-Dan Houser explains that "a big part of New York life is walking the streets and meeting lunatics", and this is something they definitely tried to put into the game.

The article I read states that they want it to be more realistic - in the sense that you won't be flying planes, infiltrating area 51, etc... Probably won't get dressed up as a cop anymore either...

OPM UK: On PS3 you've got a guarantee that every machine is going to have a hard drive and, with Blu-ray, you've got plenty of storage, wheras on Xbox 360 there's no guarantee of a hard drive and you're workng with the DVD format. Does that create limitations?

That kinda sucks - with games getting so expensive it's almost guaranteed most will be dual platform - does this mean that the PS3 will be held back by the 360's inferior hardware?

the reason for not having planes doesnt have to do with 9/11 (think about it, san andreas came out 3 years after 9/11 and had planes). Its because they want the game to be more realistic, and someone who has never flown a plane hopping in one and taking off is not exactly feasible in life.

San Andreas was not a model of NYC - therefore planes were fine.

As a Sunni, I find the title of this thread offensive :p

This is definitely a must buy for me. Great attention to detail for a sandbox game. Are those porta-potties in the background of pic #1?

I don't feel the title is appropriate either. In a thread is one thing but for a title it doesn't belong here.

That kinda sucks - with games getting so expensive it's almost guaranteed most will be dual platform - does this mean that the PS3 will be held back by the 360's inferior hardware?

Straight from the horse's mouth:
http://www.totalvideogames.com/news/Further_GTA_IV_Details_Unearthed_11542_5883_0.htm

That kinda sucks - with games getting so expensive it's almost guaranteed most will be dual platform - does this mean that the PS3 will be held back by the 360's inferior hardware?
Some of us are more worried about the opposite. :D :D :D

Considering it has been said that they actually went backwards and the scale of this game is smaller than San Andreas, I can understand why there are no planes. Where are you gonna fly, Brooklyn to Queens?

I do hope that the jet pack makes it's return though. I loved flying around with that thing.

contraints of the 360? I find this hilarious because they could be so easily fixed.

1st off. Just make the hard drive required for the game and be done with it. I'm sure MS might not like this idea, but it was a bad idea to release a core to begin with. MS admit it, get over it, lets move on and stop making things harder for developers. This is one thing Sony did right.

2nd: The media issues. So a DVD is smaller then blu ray. Are we all that lazy that we couldn't get up and just swap dvds at some point? I mean, back in the day of Commodore 64's or 286/386 PC's it was not uncommon to have to use multiple floppies for one game. Ultima series almost all had multiple floppies. Now, I'm not talking about having 10 dvd's for one game here. But surely, 2 wouldn't kill us.

Yeah, I kinda wish MS would discontinue the core 360 and just add the notification to certain games that an HD is required. Old Core customers can slowly get hard drives as the games they want require them.

I'm not particularly interested in swapping discs, either, if it's avoidable. Having a game available on a single Blu-ray for my PS3 or multiple DVD for my 360 would definitely make me lean towards the PS3.

There was already a football (soccer) manager game in Europe that required the hard-drive on the 360. Also, Final Fantasy XI does as well.

I'm just wondering how much time and money the developers waste on trying to get around silly things like dvd rom size, and whether or not a hd is in use when they could just put their foot down and say, this is it, take it or leave it and get the game out much faster.

I'm just wondering how much time and money the developers waste on trying to get around silly things like dvd rom size, and whether or not a hd is in use when they could just put their foot down and say, this is it, take it or leave it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft eventually phased out the Core model primarily for this reason. As far as DVD swapping goes, I say be my guest. I just hope that the multiplatform devs don't develop PS3 games with a 7+ Gb file limit in mind. Of course Microsoft could simply do what they should have done originally, and incorporate an HD-DVD drive into the Elite. I'm still trying to figure out why they didn't.

contraints of the 360? I find this hilarious because they could be so easily fixed.

1st off. Just make the hard drive required for the game and be done with it. I'm sure MS might not like this idea, but it was a bad idea to release a core to begin with. MS admit it, get over it, lets move on and stop making things harder for developers. This is one thing Sony did right.

2nd: The media issues. So a DVD is smaller then blu ray. Are we all that lazy that we couldn't get up and just swap dvds at some point? I mean, back in the day of Commodore 64's or 286/386 PC's it was not uncommon to have to use multiple floppies for one game. Ultima series almost all had multiple floppies. Now, I'm not talking about having 10 dvd's for one game here. But surely, 2 wouldn't kill us.


Well, seeing as the core is still for sale (or was last time i checked) im pretty sure microsoft would be right pissed, as would all of the core adopters.

as for you disc swapping idea, i agree for some games (linear rpg's/fps's) but for a sandbox game? Could you imagine having to swap discs every few minutes as you drive around the city. "arrived at Queens - INSERT DISC 4" "Arrived at downtown - INSERT DISC 2" Just wouldnt work.

Well, seeing as the core is still for sale (or was last time i checked) im pretty sure microsoft would be right pissed, as would all of the core adopters.

as for you disc swapping idea, i agree for some games (linear rpg's/fps's) but for a sandbox game? Could you imagine having to swap discs every few minutes as you drive around the city. "arrived at Queens - INSERT DISC 4" "Arrived at downtown - INSERT DISC 2" Just wouldnt work.

I remember playing the Myst sequel Riven for the original Playstation. It had to have been like 5 or 6 discs, and was indeed a total pain to constantly swap. I hate to say it, but this is the reality that Xbox360 owners are going to have to live with in the next few years. Perhaps a new formatting technology will surface, that allows more data to be stored and read on standard DVD's.

The old shots we've been seeing are up on the official site now, full size. Plus a few new ones!

http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/trailer_splash.html


http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e359/oddbodyAS2/ps3/017.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e359/oddbodyAS2/ps3/012.jpg

This one's a bit enigmatic. I wonder what's going on here...
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e359/oddbodyAS2/ps3/014.jpg

when is that new trailer coming? it is 6/28 like the website stated... :p

when is that new trailer coming? it is 6/28 like the website stated... :p

Yes. In half an hour at 12:00pm.

8 more minutes!

8 more minutes!

Or, not...

Still no new trailer...

Wow that looks sick!

Okay, NOW the new trailer is up.

Of course, I don't think there was much (any?) actual gameplay considering the camera angles, but it still looked amazing.

It also appears that you'll have to deal with a lot more morality issues in this one. So far, it's looking fairly amazing....

I dont see shyt..

Where is the new trailer.. are you using this link?

http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/trailer_splash.html

When is the release date?

After seeing this trailer, the fantasy of what GTA IV could be is starting to fade away, and the reality of it being just another game is setting in. I don't know, but for some reason, this trailer has lowered my expectations a bit. This is still a mandatory day 1 purchase, and I'm sure it will be a great game, but I don't think this is going to be light years ahead of Saint's Row.

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune remains my most wanted game in 2007, right now, atm. Based on this trailer, I'm not moving GTA IV above Drake's Fortune. Not yet anyways. Maybe when we see some actual real gameplay, instead of cut-scenes and cinematics and such.

I dont see shyt..

Where is the new trailer.. are you using this link?

http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/trailer_splash.html

I just clicked on your link, and watched the trailer a second time. :D

Good stuff. Try refreshing your browser if it still isn't there.

I think it's stupid how there's no planes in the game. If we go around trying to "respect" everyone that has endured some crisis then we wouldn't even have weapons in the game or anything fun. Are we trying to deny what happened here or what??? :confused:

I think it's stupid how there's no planes in the game. If we go around trying to "respect" everyone that has endured some crisis then we wouldn't even have weapons in the game or anything fun. Are we trying to deny what happened here or what??? :confused:

How many times does this need to be explained? There are no planes in the game because you are only going to be in one city--who flies a plane from one side of NYC to the other side? No one. There will be helicopters in the game, though.

And, again, there has already been a GTA game with airplanes since 2001, so why do people keep thinking it has anything to do with 9/11?

I still couldnt find the video in that link.. probably need to clear my cache..

But I did find it here!!

http://grandtheftauto.yahoo.com/


Without a doubt none of that is gameplay footage.. all cutscenes.. but who cares at this point it only makes you more curious about the game. They definitely know how to keep people interested!

Without a doubt none of that is gameplay footage.. all cutscenes..

Nah, there were some shots of gameplay in there.

The shots riding the motorcycle might be gameplay.

http://videogames.yahoo.com/xbox360/grand-theft-auto-iv/preview-520459

It was all in-game

Five Cool Things About GTA IV
As you watch the new Grand Theft Auto trailer depicting life on the streets in Liberty City, be sure to watch for these cool additions:

1. Graphics
The coolest feature so far is the upgraded RAGE Graphics Engine (also used to power Table Tennis), which finally replaces Renderware under the GTA hood. RAGE now features a heavily customized version of Natural Motion's "Euphoria" physics engine, which got major attention last year when LucasArts demo'ed it as part of the Indiana Jones and Star Wars games. Expect even more excitement as you see how the teaming of RAGE and Euphoria affects movement, gunplay, climbing, and driving. Rockstar also points out that everything you see in the GTA IV trailers is capture in-game -- there are no underhanded renders here.
2. Sound
While the Natural Motion has a visible effect on the physical aspects of action and gunplay, even more noticeable is the game's audio system. Positional audio makes for the sort of intense, fun gun battles we've always wanted in GTA. The streets sound -- and feel -- real.

3. Tunes
Part and parcel of the audio system, of course, is Rockstar's trend-setting ability to craft a killer soundtrack. The new trailer is scored with "Arm In Arm (Shy Child Remix)" by New York City-based band The Boggs. The idea was to show a real street-level view of Rockstar's version of the city with a band that belongs there. To that effect, you'll be seeing even more licensed music from all genres and time periods, since the soundtrack team is no longer confined to a specific decade.


VIDEO: Gamers on GTA


4. Time
While Rockstar is reluctant to discuss the details, time is a big factor in GTA IV. The new trailer indicates in subtle ways how the passage of time might affect the game, and there are clues that indicate some missions, or mission elements, might be time-specific. And if that's the case, then can multiple outcomes and branching storylines be far behind? Don't expect a mission flowchart that looks like a New York City subway map, but Rockstar could surprise us.

5. The Details
The vastly upgraded graphics don't just make for a shinier front end. Rockstar has worked to make GTA IV follow through, from the biggest details to the smallest. You can see it in the way Niko leans around a corner, or how he sways while hanging (in real-time, procedural motion) from the skid of a helicopter. It's the glance into a car and the ways in which the streets of Liberty City are teeming with the life we've been waiting to see from the series. Rockstar claims the new graphics, sound, and details make the game more beautiful, not more disturbing, and we're almost ready to believe them.

Regardless if it was cutscene or gameplay it was all in-game.

http://media.rockstargames.com/flies/trailer2/1280x720.zip

HD trailer.

Mirror, 720p wmv:
http://www.xboxyde.com/leech_4013_1_en.html

Well, its definitely all in-game as all of Rockstar's trailers are but these are definitely cutscenes ... unless they're going with those cinematic angle shots like Drake's Fortune which I doubt they are. Either way, game looks good ... can't wait to get it.

After seeing this trailer, the fantasy of what GTA IV could be is starting to fade away, and the reality of it being just another game is setting in. I don't know, but for some reason, this trailer has lowered my expectations a bit. This is still a mandatory day 1 purchase, and I'm sure it will be a great game, but I don't think this is going to be light years ahead of Saint's Row.

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune remains my most wanted game in 2007, right now, atm. Based on this trailer, I'm not moving GTA IV above Drake's Fortune. Not yet anyways. Maybe when we see some actual real gameplay, instead of cut-scenes and cinematics and such.


What's gotten to me with Drake's is how organic the motions of the characters (playable and NPC) are. I'm not talking abouthe mocap cutscene stuff either, but the gameplay. Faces still aren't quite right tho. Getting there, but not there.

I hope that the new Indy game is as organic. I love Indy...

"You want my word? You got my word!"

Call me crazy but that sounds like Tom Sizemore is making a return to the GTA series...

"You want my word? You got my word!"

Call me crazy but that sounds like Tom Sizemore is making a return to the GTA series...


Hopefully, he's already finished recording all of his voice over work if that's true....

Hopefully, he's already finished recording all of his voice over work if that's true....

Considering he is going to jail, I agree with you ;)

I was going to post about this earlier but I wanted to confirm with my friend what I noticed before I said anything. Did you guys notice the framerate? Seemed as thought they were having some FPS issues there. For example, the framerate looks really back when he jumps out the rolling car and the car crashes. I thought maybe it was my TV or something but my TV is top of the line ;) ... I had to confirm with a friend first and he told me the same thing.

I was going to post about this earlier but I wanted to confirm with my friend what I noticed before I said anything. Did you guys notice the framerate? Seemed as thought they were having some FPS issues there. For example, the framerate looks really back when he jumps out the rolling car and the car crashes. I thought maybe it was my TV or something but my TV is top of the line ;) ... I had to confirm with a friend first and he told me the same thing.


Since the game is still being developed we should worry about that when it hits retail if the framerate is having issues.

I was going to post about this earlier but I wanted to confirm with my friend what I noticed before I said anything. Did you guys notice the framerate? Seemed as thought they were having some FPS issues there. For example, the framerate looks really back when he jumps out the rolling car and the car crashes. I thought maybe it was my TV or something but my TV is top of the line ;) ... I had to confirm with a friend first and he told me the same thing.

It was a highly compressed video. I wouldn't put too much stock in frame rates at this point.

And, again, there has already been a GTA game with airplanes since 2001, so why do people keep thinking it has anything to do with 9/11?

Were the GTA games with planes since 2001 based in New York?

Were the GTA games with planes since 2001 based in New York?

Nope. But, I still don't see the point in having airplanes to fly from one side of a city to the other side. And, there will be helicopters--something you would find people using to fly from one side of the city to the other.

Just because something was in a previous iteration of a game doesn't mean it needs to be here for this one if it doesn't serve the story. Personally, I hope to GOD that you don't have to work out, or feed, this guy. To me, that was one step from having to track down a bathroom to pee while running around smacking people with a tire iron.

To decry a game as "politically correct" based on internet speculation when one of the main things you'll be doing is attacking the police with various armament just strikes me as asinine internet noise. If someone can tell me a legitimate reason to have airplanes when you are only in one city, I'm all ears. Err...eyes.

To decry a game as "politically correct" based on internet speculation when one of the main things you'll be doing is attacking the police with various armament just strikes me as asinine internet noise. If someone can tell me a legitimate reason to have airplanes when you are only in one city, I'm all ears. Err...eyes.
lol, so true.

Planes in New York City?! *GASP* Heavens no! I'll stick to murdering peace officers and innocents, thank you!