In case you haven't seen it.....this is a great deal for those looking to get into a multi-channel, HDMI 1.3 equipped, PCM
capable receiver from a quality brand, and at a reasonable price :D

I know there's another thread on receivers, but this one is particularly interesting as it has deep-color capability
and decodes both lossless high definition audio codecs.

Link (http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4166654&JRSource=nsa&nsa=1)
90 Watts per Channel to 7 Channel Surround / AM/FM Radio Tuner / Preprogrammed Remote Control / iPod playthrough option / XM Ready / HDMI

Onkyo's TX-SR605 Home Theater Receiver delivers the sharp, crisp Sound you expect from your Home-theater system. With 7.1 Channel Surround sound capability, this receiver delivers 90 Watts per channel to 7 Channels covering a wide frequency range. Traditionally all receivers have AM/FM Digital tuners that allow you to Program your favorite AM/FM radio stations. This receiver is XM ready. All you need do is subscribe to XM satellite radio service, purchase an Optional in-home antenna, and enjoy over 150 channels of XM radio. The TX-SR605 also is iPod compatible so you can play your iPod through your home-theater sound system (requires optional Onkyo DSA1 iPod dock). With the ability to select 2.1 channel virtual surround, and 5.1/6.1/7.1 channel Dolby Digital and DTS surround modes, the TX-SR604 is a receiver designed to meet the needs of today and tomorrow.
7 x 90 watts @ 8 Ohms
WRAT - wide range amp technology
Optimum gain volume circuitry
Dolby Digital EX & Pro Logic IIx
DTS-ES 96/24 & Neo:6
HDMI 2 Input / 1 Output, 1080p bandwith - ready for next generation DVD players
Auto Speaker Calibration with Audyssey 2EQ - Creates an optimal listening area, not a point - perfect for families
Vector linear shaping circuitry
Advanced 32-Bit DSP
A-form auto Format sensing
Non-scaling configuration
Pure Audio Mode
192kHz/24-bit D/A converters
Adjustable crossover (60-150Hz)
Component Video switching @ 50MHz - 3 inputs, 1 output
40 AM/FM/XM presets ( XM requires service subscription from XM)
6 digital inputs - 4 optical, 2 coaxial
Color-coded speaker binding posts
IR input and 12V trigger
Multi-channel inputs
Dual banana speaker binding posts
Enhanced DS-A1 iPod control (DS-A1 dock device is optional)
Brushed aluminum front panel
H.C.P.S. (High-Current Power Supply)
Dimensions(WxHxD): 17-1/8" x 6-3/4" x 14-13/16"
Weight: 20.9 lbs.
Color: Black


http://www.stopdave.com/images/Onkyo/txsr605.jpg

Link to AVS 2007 Onkyo lineup thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=831063)

Free ground shipping, to boot! Only 2 HDMI inputs, but beggars can't be choosers :-)

Fix the link.

Thanks for the heads-up though...much appreciated.

Yes, hurt me. I just ordered the 604 last week. Had I known I would have held off another week.:(

Regardless, it doesn't matter much, HMDI 1.1 equipped receivers like the Onkyo 604 is more than adequate just as long as Sony upgrades the PS3 to HDMI 1.3 and to decode the advanced audio codecs internally like they originally promised.

Fix the link.


Fixed. Thanks. :D

Which should I get, black or silver?

Black, of course!

But looking at the icons on the pic, does that mean this receiver will decode DTSHD MA?

I was going to get one of the new Sony's but it looks like all of the other manufacturers are starting to step it up so I'll hold off. This one looks quite nice.

One question, would I be able to send a 720p signal via HDMI from the PS3 to this, and then output 1080i from the component out on the receiver to go to my non-720p HDTV? It says it will upconvert but doesn't specify if that is only through HDMI. That would be a great solution for our current non-720p HDTV's.

That's what I'm wondering....they have a DTS Master Icon.....does this mean it will decode it internally?

That is a great price. Thanks for the link.

One question, would I be able to send a 720p signal via HDMI from the PS3 to this, and then output 1080i from the component out on the receiver to go to my non-720p HDTV? PS3 can output 720p for games if the PS3 games support 1080i/p. For BD movies however, that's a no-go.

I assume you want to use the receiver to upscale the 720p video (say RFOM) to your TV so that you can get 1080i to go with your non-720p HDTV. I have no answer to that. You might want to check the online manual for this unit, if there is one.


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Wow that's a fantastic price and will, of course, destroy anything Sony has to offer.

Wow that's a fantastic price and will, of course, destroy anything Sony has to offer.

That is assuming it doesn't have the HDCP handshake issue with the PS3 that the 604 has. (having to change audio inputs to get sound back)

Does look very nice and that is a great price, I wish the next one was a little closer in price (I want 3 hdmi in).

Did they drop the $100 pre-order discount already?! How many did you guys buy?? :p

That's what I'm wondering....they have a DTS Master Icon.....does this mean it will decode it internally?

Yup!

Multi-channel PCM?

Multi-channel PCM?

yeah, thats what i want to know. will it handle 7,1 pcm? it doesnt mention anything about it.

Multi-channel PCM?
yeah, thats what i want to know. will it handle 7,1 pcm? it doesnt mention anything about it.

TX-SR605 MSRP $499 Shipping mid May
*Full A/V Processing via HDMI 1.3a with Upconversion (2 in 1 out)
*HDMI Deep Color Capable (36bit)
*Component Video Upconversion and HDTV-Capable (50 MHZ) Video Switching (3 in 1 out)
*WRAT/ Optimum Gain Volume Circuitry/ Non-Scaling Configuration/ A-Form Listening Mode Memory/ RI
*Faroudja DCDi
*Audyssey 2EQ Room Acoustics Correction
*7.1 Multichannel Inputs for PCM Delivery of Hi-Def Audio Sources
*DOLBY Decoder - PLIIx, DD, DD-EX, TrueHD
*DTS Decoder - DTS, ES, NEO6, 96/24, HD Master Audio
*S-Video (5 in 2 out)
*Digital Audio IN (OPT/COAX) 3/3
*Composite Video (5 in/2 out)
*Power 90W/Ch
*Powered Zone 2 and Zone 2 Line-Out
*Bi-Amp Capable
*XM and Sirius ports
*XM HD Surround Sound through Neural Surround

:D

:D

Looks great! Now I'll sit tight for the reviews to begin showing up. Once I see consumer feedback I'll bite.

7.1 multichannel inputs is not what they meant. Lots of low-end receivers have 7.1 multichannel inputs these days.

They're talking about 7.1 PCM/Lossless output which it should do if it's HDMI 1.3 certified, but there are no guarantees. They ask because the 604 only support 5.1 PCM output.

But as I said before, it might all be meaningless if Sony doesn't upgrade the PS3 to support HDMI 1.3 output properly. Once they do a 604 or any other HDMI 1.1 equipped receiver will be all you need.

I can't tell if this will output all inputs via HDMI?
I don't care if it upconverts, but will it send all signals via 1 HDMI cable?

That is assuming it doesn't have the HDCP handshake issue with the PS3 that the 604 has. (having to change audio inputs to get sound back)

Does look very nice and that is a great price, I wish the next one was a little closer in price (I want 3 hdmi in).

Exactly. If the HDMI handshake problems have been addressed, I'd love to go with the new Onkyo. Otherwise, I'll have to look elsewhere, personally.

Where does it say anything about Deep Color?

Where does it say anything about Deep Color?

Deep Color™: HDMI 1.3 supports 30-bit, 36-bit and 48-bit (RGB or YCbCr) color depths, up from the 24-bit depths in previous versions of the HDMI specification.

* Lets HDTVs and other displays go from million of colors to billions of colors.
* Eliminates on-screen color banding, for smooth tonal transitions and subtle gradations between colors.
* Enables increased contrast ratio
* Can represent many times more shades of gray between black and white
* At 30-bit pixel depth, a four times improvement would be the minimum, and the typical improvement would be eight times or more.

Broader color space: HDMI 1.3 removes all limits on color selection

* Next-generation “xvYCC” color space supports 1.8 times as many colors as existing HDTV signals
* Lets HDTVs display colors more accurately
* Enables displays with natural, vivid colors


It's supposedly part of the HDMI 1.3 spec.

It's supposedly part of the HDMI 1.3 spec.

Maybe it does indeed support it, but I just think we have to be careful when assuming what these devices will and won't do just because of the HDMI version number. There are so many issues with these receivers not doing this or that, and the PS3 doesn't pass SACD as DSD (supported in 1.2) even though it's 1.3.

Make sure you post an in-depth review of the onkyo 605 as I would like to get it, but want to see some reviews first.

Maybe it does indeed support it, but I just think we have to be careful when assuming what these devices will and won't do just because of the HDMI version number. There are so many issues with these receivers not doing this or that, and the PS3 doesn't pass SACD as DSD (supported in 1.2) even though it's 1.3.

Very true. I'm just going on the hopeful assumption that in order to bear the 1.3 compliant designation, these issues have been addressed on this particular model.

*crosses fingers*

is it $399 or $499?

Its $499...

well I see my new receiver. will the Integra division make a similar model, especially the 705?

It so cool it does Sirius and XM as I have both through family.

is it $399 or $499?

It WAS $399 for a limited-time J&R pre-order, but it looks like enough people jumped on this deal to where the discount was quickly dropped.

Ok, quick question: If I currently have a 5.1 set up and wanted to upgrade to this set up, how would the receiver handle only having that many speakers? I really want to upgrade my receiver (mainly for video reasons), but I don't want to have to upgrade my speakers too.

I would assume that if I just connect the 5 speakers and my sub that I could set the receiver for that many speakers. I just don't have anywhere in my living room that I could even put two more speakers.

Ok, quick question: If I currently have a 5.1 set up and wanted to upgrade to this set up, how would the receiver handle only having that many speakers? I really want to upgrade my receiver (mainly for video reasons), but I don't want to have to upgrade my speakers too.

I would assume that if I just connect the 5 speakers and my sub that I could set the receiver for that many speakers. I just don't have anywhere in my living room that I could even put two more speakers. Basically the receiver will automatically know IF you have speakers connected to the Left Center and Right Center surround connectors. It'll then function as a 5.1 setup and will downmix any 6.1 or 7.1 audio to 5.1.

For most movies, you won't get any effect - except for The Descent on BD and the LOTR trilogy with DD EX and DTS ES Discrete. Not so much for games either, especially for FPS since you'd be moving around a lot faster to detect nuances in the audio mix. :cool:

Give us a review in a month when you get your unit.


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J&R took the link down, permanently. I can't even find the Onkyo 605 listed at any price on J&R's website.

Anyone know another place taking pre-orders for the Onkyo 605 at a reasonable price???

Thanks.

One question, would I be able to send a 720p signal via HDMI from the PS3 to this, and then output 1080i from the component out on the receiver to go to my non-720p HDTV? It says it will upconvert but doesn't specify if that is only through HDMI. That would be a great solution for our current non-720p HDTV's.
I was wondering the same thing. Does anybody have any idea about this?

I can't find it anywhere.

When is this getting released?

'mid-may'

Basically the receiver will automatically know IF you have speakers connected to the Left Center and Right Center surround connectors. It'll then function as a 5.1 setup and will downmix any 6.1 or 7.1 audio to 5.1.
On all the Onkyo's I've had experience with (including my own) you had to go into the menu and turn the extra speaker(s) OFF or it would send a signal over those ports.

Thanks for the link.

Thats a great price for what this reciever can do. I will have to keep it in mind later this year when I am putting my surround sound together.

Anyone have a link to preorder?

please PM me with it if you get one.

Does it matrix 5.1LPCM to 7.1 LPCM? If so I will be all over it.

Anyone have a link to preorder?
Yeah, I finally have the money now and I can't even find this at the $499 price. :mad:

Anyone have anything?

Also, on the Onkyo site I noticed this for the 575:

"HDMI Pass Through (2in/1out , 1080P compatible) — A separate audio connection is necessary"

I'm not sure what this means, but it seems to me that if you use the HDMI for 1080p it will not use the audio on the HDMI pass. This would be a major problem, someone please tell me that I can use the HDMI for video AND audio.

WHOA! I gotta tell my dad about this!

For those of you not following the original thread, you can still pre-order with J&R. You just have to call them (I ordered it today at the original pre-order price).

Good luck!

what exactly is the pre-order price?

$399 or $499?

For those of you not following the original thread, you can still pre-order with J&R. You just have to call them (I ordered it today at the original pre-order price).

Good luck!I did too, thanks to you! :)

Is there anything else on the way that has comparible features for the same price ballpark? I'm still on the fence about preordering it with no reviews, but I would hate to have to pay $500 vs $400 right now.

Edit, I'm impatient so preordered it. :D Said they are shipping the first week of May as far as they know. They are also quite aware of the AVSForum.

I just bought a Yamaha RX-V661. Aside from 1.3, how does that compare to this? Should I be disappointed I didn't wait?

I just bought a Yamaha RX-V661. Aside from 1.3, how does that compare to this? Should I be disappointed I didn't wait?

I'm not sure yet. The 605 does not process 5.1 PCM into 7.1 (DPLIIx). While that's not a deal-breaker for me since I don't have 7.1, it makes me wonder what else it won't do with PCM. If things like speaker level and equalization adjustments, bass management, and speaker distances don't stick with PCM, I'm not getting it. While DTS-HD MA would be nice, I am still confident that one of these months the PS3 is going to get the capability to decode it.

Gotcha. DPLIIx is a big thing for me, along with anything else involving 7.1. So that is a deal breaker for me right there. Thanks!

Call J&R on the phone if you're interested in ordering this receiver. As of 5/18/07 they were still taking pre-orders at the lower price mentioned above. They should be in by the first week of June.

- Mike

Call J&R on the phone if you're interested in ordering this receiver. As of 5/18/07 they were still taking pre-orders at the lower price mentioned above. They should be in by the first week of June.

- Mike
Good info, thanks!

Yeah, I finally have the money now and I can't even find this at the $499 price. :mad:

Anyone have anything?

Also, on the Onkyo site I noticed this for the 575:

"HDMI Pass Through (2in/1out , 1080P compatible) — A separate audio connection is necessary"

I'm not sure what this means, but it seems to me that if you use the HDMI for 1080p it will not use the audio on the HDMI pass. This would be a major problem, someone please tell me that I can use the HDMI for video AND audio.


I donn't think I saw anyone answer the pass through question. That basically means that this thing is just a 1.3a switch. Its not touching the audio or video. Its just taking it in and putting it back out.

Sorry for the noob question but if I ran component video out of my ps3 into this receiver would it come out HDMI at 1080p assuming it ran in 1080p?

Does anyone know if you can still preorder it by phone at the $399 price?

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