This is the one game I got the 360 for. What a shame theres no word on a Dead Rising for Ps3. Oblivion is cool and all but this game is tight. I've read about the sequal possibly for PS3 but that is long off. They need the 1st One release before they start talking about sequal for PS3. Geez. Anyways, Zombie games rule.

I'd go for that, looks like a lot of fun.

Hopefully Dead Rising 2 is coming for the PS3. One of the devs said it was in an interview. Microsoft has an exclusive for DR1 though.

i'd read that PS3 was indeed due to get the sequel, but the MS outbid them once more to get it back and keep it exclusive... i hope things chang because i totally agree, zombie games rule!

Yeah, MS paid them off to keep it exclusive. The MS money machine at it again... :(

Good for business, bad for gamers...

Not sure how it is bad for gamers get a 360 if you want to play it. Why don't you make that statement more accurate. Bad for PS3 owners maybe?

If it's really true that MS paid off Capcom to keep it exclusive and they took it, I'm super pissed. How much money does it take to dwarf the profits they'd get from a PS3 version.

Whether the rumor is true or not, I hate M$.

Not sure how it is bad for gamers get a 360 if you want to play it. Why don't you make that statement more accurate. Bad for PS3 owners maybe?

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I dont spend money on hardware with a one year death clock built in...

Its a great game, and I would love to own it, but until a redesigned 360 comes out that doesnt sound like a turbine and doesnt break 30 seconds after the warranty expires, I'll be glad to get one. That the ONLY reason I havent yet. I dont mind spending lots of money... but I very much mind throwing away money on something that I expect to break in a year anyway.

Gaming is about the games dude. I'm glad the 360 owners get to play ace combat now. I'm glad they get to have fun playing things other system owners have enjoyed for a long time. I understand *First Party* games exist for a reason, but ideally, and all gamers agree, it would be ideal if all games were on all systems.

If it's really true that MS paid off Capcom to keep it exclusive and they took it, I'm super pissed. How much money does it take to dwarf the profits they'd get from a PS3 version.

Whether the rumor is true or not, I hate M$.

Kinda retarded way of thinking, since Sony bought off everyone with the PS2 and so thusly, you hate $ony Too....

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I dont spend money on hardware with a one year death clock built in...


Since its warrantied, why do you even care? If it dies, you get it repaired for free. Big Whoop.

Why the drama about "I'm not buying one until its built like a tank!" etc, etc...
Buy one, play games..if it breaks, get it fixed.....

:confused: :confused:

Kinda retarded way of thinking, since Sony bought off everyone with the PS2 and so thusly, you hate $ony Too....


I think the 100 million+ user base pretty much decided things for developers.

Since its warrantied, why do you even care? If it dies, you get it repaired for free. Big Whoop.

Why the drama about "I'm not buying one until its built like a tank!" etc, etc...
Buy one, play games..if it breaks, get it fixed.....

:confused: :confused:

Let a company know you are willing to put up with crappy products, and after a while all you get is crappy products. Besides, I am too busy to put up with RMA process and crap like that.

I am a hardware engineer. The hardware I buy MUST be up to my standards. Thats probably one area where I am a good bit different than most people. Its a philosophical thing for me because tech is what I do for a living. I've also always slanted toward a more Japanese way of thinking tech-wise also. Just personal preference and ideology. I'm german-irish decent though, so I have no idea where those tendencies come from, lol.

Let a company know you are willing to put up with crappy products, and after a while all you get is crappy products. Besides, I am too busy to put up with RMA process and crap like that.

I am a hardware engineer. The hardware I buy MUST be up to my standards. Thats probably one area where I am a good bit different than most people. Its a philosophical thing for me because tech is what I do for a living. I've also always slanted toward a more Japanese way of thinking tech-wise also. Just personal preference and ideology. I'm german-irish decent though, so I have no idea where those tendencies come from, lol.

Heh, my thinking is along the same lines, which is why the more I looked into the 360 bricking issue, the more appalled I was. While buying a ps3 was a stab in the dark for me, and while it's possible we'll see massive ps3 failures down the line, it's not the same as buying a product that's known to be defective.

Honestly though, buying a 360 isn't that bad as long as you get a store warranty so you can swap the faulty one out rather than going through a rma.

I think the 100 million+ user base pretty much decided things for developers.

No developer would limit release of their software without someone putting money in their pockets. Sony announced tons of "exclusives" and in order for them to say that, they would have had to contractually established a relationship with the developers. $$$

I'm just saying whats good for the goose is all...

As for the Hardware Engineering bit, 98% of items released today are crap, disposable commodoties. The 360 is one of them. The PS3 is another, its an electronic device with moving parts which will someday fail.

Whether it fails sooner or later is irrelevant to me.....but you buy what you like.

Originally posted by HeadRusch
As for the Hardware Engineering bit, 98% of items released today are crap, disposable commodoties. The 360 is one of them. The PS3 is another, its an electronic device with moving parts which will someday fail.

Whether it fails sooner or later is irrelevant to me.....but you buy what you like.
I prefere and expect later, for my hard earned money. My 7 year old front projector is still running like a champ and so is my original DVD player I bought when the format launched.

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I dont spend money on hardware with a one year death clock built in...

Its a great game, and I would love to own it, but until a redesigned 360 comes out that doesnt sound like a turbine and doesnt break 30 seconds after the warranty expires, I'll be glad to get one. That the ONLY reason I havent yet. I dont mind spending lots of money... but I very much mind throwing away money on something that I expect to break in a year anyway.

Gaming is about the games dude. I'm glad the 360 owners get to play ace combat now. I'm glad they get to have fun playing things other system owners have enjoyed for a long time. I understand *First Party* games exist for a reason, but ideally, and all gamers agree, it would be ideal if all games were on all systems.


So what exactly are you bit*ing about then.

It's about the games. Sure as hell is but where was all this dissapointment when it came to the PS2 and its exclusives. Now that it is the other way around it is bad to say pick up a 360. Also I can't go by your 1yr deadlock whatever the hell you said I have my initial 360 from Dec 05 and I have been to Iraq and everywhere else in the world and I am playing on that same 360 so I can't complain about that I am not one who has a bad 360 or whatever. Plus I am sure out of some of those 360 it was the customers fault not the 360 itself. Some people just don't take care of their sh*t.

I prefere and expect later, for my hard earned money. My 7 year old front projector is still running like a champ and so is my original DVD player I bought when the format launched.


My original Nintendo lasted 12 years.

I still play battle toads on my sega genesis

Kinda retarded way of thinking, since Sony bought off everyone with the PS2 and so thusly, you hate $ony Too....

Uh no, it's a "kinda retarded way of thinking" to think that many developers actually cared about catering to the relatively miniscule Xbox 1 userbase. Sony didn't need to pay off anyone last gen..........

Uh no, it's a "kinda retarded way of thinking" to think that many developers actually cared about catering to the relatively miniscule Xbox 1 userbase. Sony didn't need to pay off anyone last gen..........


How is that when the games actually looked better and spawned a couple of exclusive games on top ot it.

Let a company know you are willing to put up with crappy products, and after a while all you get is crappy products. Besides, I am too busy to put up with RMA process and crap like that.

I am a hardware engineer. The hardware I buy MUST be up to my standards. Thats probably one area where I am a good bit different than most people. Its a philosophical thing for me because tech is what I do for a living. I've also always slanted toward a more Japanese way of thinking tech-wise also. Just personal preference and ideology. I'm german-irish decent though, so I have no idea where those tendencies come from, lol.

So did you have a PS2? If so, what convinced you to buy it despite the massive amount of Disk Read Error problems it had after some time?

jigga, just because a console has superior hardware doesn't mean that developers should feel the need to port to/develop for it. I loved my OG Xbox and I can't say anything bad about it (other than lack of exclusive 3rd party games), but the devs will always follow the money (big userbase). The only developers I've ever heard of making games for a console just because it has superior hardware is Team Ninja. I won't get into whether or not Ninja Gaiden Sigma on the PS3 looks better than DOA4 on the 360 ;)

jigga, just because a console has superior hardware doesn't mean that developers should feel the need to port to/develop for it. I loved my OG Xbox and I can't say anything bad about it (other than lack of exclusive 3rd party games), but the devs will always follow the money (big userbase). The only developers I've ever heard of making games for a console just because it has superior hardware is Team Ninja. I won't get into whether or not Ninja Gaiden Sigma on the PS3 looks better than DOA4 on the 360 ;)


big bouncing boobies make anything look good.

big bouncing boobies make anything look good.

Hehe, true! :D I hope Rachel's boobs bounce that good in Sigma.

Hehe, true! :D I hope Rachel's boobs bounce that good in Sigma.

somehow I dont think so unless her ninja suit is a string bikini

We'll have to see if that's a bonus :D


Any word of a new DOA (on either the 360 or the ps3)?

Not sure how it is bad for gamers get a 360 if you want to play it. Why don't you make that statement more accurate. Bad for PS3 owners maybe?


A lot of people on this forum have been debating the idea of all third party titles going multiplatform. Mostly everyone agreed that it makes good business sense and also gives more choice to gamers. Are you saying that it is only good when a Sony exclusive goes multiplatform and not when a MS exclusive goes multiplatform, so MS fanboys have an extra bragging point?

As for the Hardware Engineering bit, 98% of items released today are crap, disposable commodoties. The 360 is one of them. The PS3 is another, its an electronic device with moving parts which will someday fail.

Whether it fails sooner or later is irrelevant to me.....but you buy what you like.

So a two year life span is just as good as a 10 year life span since both products will eventually fail? If we apply this logic to life in general, I guess a life expectancy of 20 years is just as good as a life expectancy of 80 years, since death will occur eventually.

So a two year life span is just as good as a 10 year life span since both products will eventually fail? If we apply this logic to life in general, I guess a life expectancy of 20 years is just as good as a life expectancy of 80 years, since death will occur eventually.


I think the point is this
If you only live to be 20 instead of 80, You don't give up on living just because you may or may not die sooner.

A lot of people on this forum have been debating the idea of all third party titles going multiplatform. Mostly everyone agreed that it makes good business sense and also gives more choice to gamers. Are you saying that it is only good when a Sony exclusive goes multiplatform and not when a MS exclusive goes multiplatform, so MS fanboys have an extra bragging point?


Thanks for asking it as a questiong but no not at all just pointing out that although we on here are coming to that conclusion and what we read it still shows that this generation has started off thec complete opposite then what happen last gen and it questions alot of what everyone thought was going to happen. The PS3 comes to the market and it is game over but that didn't happen. Alot of things have been suprising. You don't expect to hear a particlular game like Devil May Cry going multi or hearing Ace Combat becoming exclusive to the 360(now talks of possible timed exclusive)

Doesn't mean the PS3 is not a good system I never came to that conclusion. At the end of the day there is nothing wrong with the PS3 itself. What is wrong is the buisness of Sony and how things are being handled. Meaning not everything is going as expected for a lot of things. What started it off for example and from that point forward was the delay because of Blu-Ray.

In addition it does bring up the question that well if I was waiting on those games to purchase the PS3 then it brings to question for some why get it now when I already have the 360 to play those games and now I am waiting on a game like MSG4 to come out unless all of a sudden it is now multi so the cycle continues until I see some games that make it worth getting the PS3. Thats not bashing the PS3 that just means I am waiting for a good reason to purchase it and not have it collect dust like my PS2 did after getting the Xbox.

In addition it does bring up the question that well if I was waiting on those games to purchase the PS3 then it brings to question for some why get it now when I already have the 360 to play those games and now I am waiting on a game like MSG4 to come out unless all of a sudden it is now multi so the cycle continues until I see some games that make it worth getting the PS3. Thats not bashing the PS3 that just means I am waiting for a good reason to purchase it and not have it collect dust like my PS2 did after getting the Xbox.Criticism is fine, but I have to wonder about your motives. You seem to take a lot of interest in the PS3 fourm for someone that doesn't have or even want a PS3. I don't feel the need to post everyday in the xbox fourm about why I don't have a good reason to buy a 360 or in the Wii fourm about how it doesn't have any games that interest me.

Criticism is fine, but I have to wonder about your motives. You seem to take a lot of interest in the PS3 fourm for someone that doesn't have or even want a PS3. I don't feel the need to post everyday in the xbox fourm about why I don't have a good reason to buy a 360 or in the Wii fourm about how it doesn't have any games that interest me.


There is about four of them that really get off on PS3 bashing. It's even more thrilling to do it "behind enemy lines" in our forum.

Criticism is fine, but I have to wonder about your motives. You seem to take a lot of interest in the PS3 fourm for someone that doesn't have or even want a PS3. I don't feel the need to post everyday in the xbox fourm about why I don't have a good reason to buy a 360 or in the Wii fourm about how it doesn't have any games that interest me.



So what are you asking am I hear to stear everyone away from the PS3? No but since we all talk about comparisions or for example when I read something I see is not true yeah I am going to say somthing just like you have people who say in this forum and the 360 make their comments. My interest in the PS3 is the same interest in the 360, games. I enjoyed my PS2 and my PSP's and hell I now own two SXRD's so no I am not a basher of Sony. But I have interest in the system because I do enjoy games from Sony. As I have stated many times I have not picked one up yet becasue I am waiting for games I actually want to get that are exclusive to the PS3 and see how the network is going to get better. Does that answer it.

I think the point is this
If you only live to be 20 instead of 80, You don't give up on living just because you may or may not die sooner.

But if you live to be 80, why burn yourself out by 20? There are two sides to that coin, and neither extreme is necessarily correct. It is the balance between that is the goal.


Why dont I spend my whole paycheck today? I mean I might not be alive tomorrow... well, that would be stupid because if I am alive tomorrow, I dont want to be broke.

I have confidence that my mp3 player, dvd player, tv, av system, ps3, will all be around for as long as I need them. The choice to how long to keep them is mine.

Sure I could be burnt, one could die, but I've spent the time up front buying reputable hardware that I know the odds are in my favor it will not fail.

I have no confidence that a 360 would last until I no longer need it. It will decide when it dies, not me. Thats why I dont buy one. And MS has every opportunity in the world to improve that perception, which many many people, including xbox fanboys have, but they dont. Being willing to put up with failure is a sad, sad thing, and that really dissapoints me professionally.

@ above poster, I didnt buy a launch ps2, I bought about a month afterwards. It lasted until I gave it to my brother, who broke it playing basketball in the house while I was off at college. He bought a used replacement, which was doa, he returned that for another, which died in a month. He returned that and the 4th one lasts until right now as I type this. As far as I know the laser issue never affected me. (I didnt own consoles during school, not enough money, and I was in my PC phase at that point. I did buy an xbox controller of my own to use at friend's houses though)

The ps2 problem was components. No matter how good the design is, you have to buy parts from other people and trust that they meet specifications for which it is impossible or impractical to test. You cant do lifetime testing of laser diodes realisticly on end-products. You are at the mercy of the supplier. Same thing happend to me on a board I designed. Analog Devices promised me a part would work to -20 deg C temperature. The parts I used on prototypes did, but the parts that were ordered for the production runs didnt. I had to bitch at a senior engineer at Analog devices and he fixed the problem, but it took too long and cost them a sale. I was lucky enough to catch it before the production stuff shipped.

Sorry the thread is so far OT. We are getting into philosophical issues and everything, and I've made it clear what I think. Everyone makes their own choices in life, and mine is to not buy products I think are flawed in such fundamental ways. Maybe MS will do something to change my mind in the future. I'm stuck waiting on end user reports of the Elite for now, because MS didnt make or publish any obvious changes that would improve perceptions. Thats why people are dissapointed in the Elite. It was a chance to reset the clock, and MS didnt take it.

Seems like a simple answer, do MS AND Sony provide incentive for developers to make certain games exclusive? I think the answer is yes. If they both do it, why make derogatory statements when MS does it? It may suck that both companies do it, but the post seemed quite anti-MS, which started this up.

MS paid Capcom to CREATE NEW IP's for the 360, those being Dead Rising and Lost Planet. Why is Capcom honoring a deal they made with Microsoft bad? Microsoft's installed base is not hurting things either, while Sony's is. There will be a time when Sony may catch up, then things will be different. Maybe. Microsoft knew they would need good exclusives for the 360, job well done. If you want to play a certain game by the system it's on.

You want the ability to play all the games, you buy all the systems. Period. Get over it.

It kills me that most here are adults, at least physically, but they whine and cry like little kids. Some games are exclusive and some are not, that is just how it is and if you want one of these games you buy it on that console, it really is that simple. That is why these companies sink money into these exclusives, to give you an incentive to buy their console, not for you to beg that it goes to their rival.

It kills me that most here are adults, at least physically, but they whine and cry like little kids. Some games are exclusive and some are not, that is just how it is and if you want one of these games you buy it on that console, it really is that simple. That is why these companies sink money into these exclusives, to give you an incentive to buy their console, not for you to beg that it goes to their rival.

I think everyone understands that one must own all of the systems to play every exclusive game. The comical thing about this thread is that most people in this forum were hailing the move of DMC 4 and Ace Combat to the 360 as a great day for gamers everywhere. In this thread, many people are calling those who want third party games on both systems whiners. Is the loss of a third party exclusive only good for gamers when it benefits Microsoft?

In regards to "Why no Dead Rising on PS3?"

Because DR was such a dire and poorly executed game, it doesn't deserve to bring missery for gamers on more than the one platform.

In regards to "Why no Dead Rising on PS3?"

Because DR was such a dire and poorly executed game, it doesn't deserve to bring missery for gamers on more than the one platform.

In your opinion. It would seem that it sold very well and a lot of other people enjoyed it.

In your opinion. It would seem that it sold very well and a lot of other people enjoyed it.

I'm pretty sure that what sales statistics don't show is the number of units that were returned within those first couple of weeks ;)

I'm pretty sure that what sales statistics don't show is the number of units that were returned within those first couple of weeks ;)

Your right... but is there stats on how many were returned?

I didn't think it was all that good of a game (and I have it) due to the way you have to go back and due things over. However I could see why it was popular and am glad they are making a sequel.