Here is a fast, consistent process to edit and prepare MPEG-2 transport streams (.ts files) to play on the PS3.

Benefits
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* No video conversion; quality is identical to the original broadcast.

* Blu-ray media is not required; DVD is fine as long its capacity is not exceeded.

Caveats
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* Multichannel audio is converted to stereo.

Software Required
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* Windows XP

* VideoReDo Plus V2.5 for removing commercials.
http://www.videoredo.com/ (low cost, free trial)

* MPEG Streamclip for Windows V1.1 for audio conversion.
http://www.squared5.com/ (free)

* QuickTime Alternative 1.78 (MPEG support for Streamclip)
http://www.codecguide.com/download_qt.htm (free)

* GEAR Video 8.2 for burning DVD media.
http://www.gearsoftware.com/ (low cost, free trial)

Tested Configuration
===============
* PS3 System Software Version 1.60
* Ritek DVD+R DL Media

Process Steps
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1) Edit the original MPEG-2 transport stream (.ts file) with VideoRedo and remove any commercials and/or unwanted content. Save the video as a transport stream.

2) Open the video with MPEG Streamclip and covert it to a TS with MP2 audio. Streamclip will convert the AC3 3/2, 48 kHz, 384 kbps audio stream found in domestic ATSC transport streams to a Stereo, 48 kHz, 384 kbps, MPEG Layer 2 audio stream suitable for the PS3.

3) Rename the file extension from .ts to .m2t. This is very important. If you skip this step, the PS3 will not display any content. When you try to view the disc contents from the XMB, it will simply report "There are no titles."

4) Burn the .m2t file to a DVD with GEAR Video. Create a pure UDF 2.01 disc. You do not need to create any special folders, just place the .m2t file in the top level directory. My files have averaged approximately 4.6GB for a one hour program. Slightly too large for a single layer DVD.

If you view the file information from the XMB, it will display the correct file size, length, resolution, video codec and audio codec.

Due to what I consider to be a bug, the PS3 will only allow you to fast forward or rewind a very small portion of the program. Other than that, your files will play perfectly.

Enjoy! ;)

:0 Sounds...difficult.

Thanks! This info will definitely come in handy.

I've not tried this or any other methods of demuxing .TS files.

But I would advise against converting your video files and saving the audio from AC3 5.1 to 2.0. You never know when a future firmware will allow full AC3 capability with .TS or .PS files. Converting it now without backup would ruin the original file forever.


fuad

I've not tried this or any other methods of demuxing .TS files.

But I would advise against converting your video files and saving the audio from AC3 5.1 to 2.0. You never know when a future firmware will allow full AC3 capability with .TS or .PS files. Converting it now without backup would ruin the original file forever.


fuad

That's why you always store a backup of the original. I burn a copy for my PS3 and throw it away after I view it.

I don't know man that sounds too complicated, here's how I do it.

You'll need HDTV2MPEG and PROJECTX.

1. Edit commercial with HDTV2MPEG then process the stream to .ts file (This retains the original quality and is fast, 7GB file takes less than 2 minutes)

2. Open the edited .TS file with ProjectX and click on the PREPARE button. Then choose the M2P format and click PROCESS. (This takes a couple of minutes very fast)

3. Rename the output file with .MPG extension and you're done. Ready for the PS3.

Seems to work everytime and original video quality is retained. I'm not sure about multi-channel sound though, but the sound quality is just like the original.

P.S. for those of you using the Hauppauge capture cards either USB or PCI that output a protected .MPG file. Run the protected capture file through ProjectX but instead of M2P format choose .TS. This will give you a regular TS stream file and will allow you to edit the commercials in HDTV2MPEG.

BTW both HDTV2MPEG and ProjectX are free and can be downloaded from:

HDTV2MPEG (http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=HDTVtoMPEG2)
PROJECTX (http://download.videohelp.com/download/ProjectX_090.4.00.zip)

I haven't tried any 1080i files but they should work just the same.

TwinTurboZX,

Do these files play with firmware 1.6. All my 1080i files quit playing since I upgraded though the 720p ones still play. Thanks,

TwinTurboZX,

Do these files play with firmware 1.6. All my 1080i files quit playing since I upgraded though the 720p ones still play. Thanks,

Sorry I haven't tried any 1080i captures only 720P captures of 24 from FOX.

TwinTurboZX,

Do these files play with firmware 1.6. All my 1080i files quit playing since I upgraded though the 720p ones still play. Thanks,

Yes, I tried a 1080i program and it worked fine.

P.S. for those of you using the Hauppauge capture cards either USB or PCI that output a protected .MPG file. Run the protected capture file through ProjectX but instead of M2P format choose .TS. This will give you a regular TS stream file and will allow you to edit the commercials in HDTV2MPEG.

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help....
Can I just use ProjectX to edit?
I can't get HDTV2MPEG to work. Just a blank screen .
And can these be transferred directly to the Ps3 harddrive thorough redkawa or is this better with a DVD? thanks

P.S. for those of you using the Hauppauge capture cards either USB or PCI that output a protected .MPG file. Run the protected capture file through ProjectX but instead of M2P format choose .TS. This will give you a regular TS stream file and will allow you to edit the commercials in HDTV2MPEG.

.
help....
Can I just use ProjectX to edit?
I can't get HDTV2MPEG to work. Just a blank screen .
And can these be transferred directly to the Ps3 harddrive thorough redkawa or is this better with a DVD? thanks

P.S. for those of you using the Hauppauge capture cards either USB or PCI that output a protected .MPG file. Run the protected capture file through ProjectX but instead of M2P format choose .TS. This will give you a regular TS stream file and will allow you to edit the commercials in HDTV2MPEG.

.
help....
Can I just use ProjectX to edit?
I can't get HDTV2MPEG to work. Just a blank screen .
And can these be transferred directly to the Ps3 harddrive thorough redkawa or is this better with a DVD? thanks

this is the method I've been using since getting my PS3 last December, works everytime.


Mpeg2 TS to Mpeg 2 mpeg file
-------------------------------------------------
Download HDTVtoMPEG2 latest version from here
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~balazer/HDTVtoMPEG2/index.html

1. Open HDTVtoMPEG2
2. Click Add and select file(s).
3. Set Type to Mpeg2
4. Set Max Size to 4000MB
5. Select Ouput Path by clicking button under MB
6. Click Convert.



Check for HDTV 1088, this will cause an error when loading on the PS3, better to check.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Download HDPatch from here
www.wallace3d.co.uk/miscstuff/HDPatch_0_3_01.zip

1. Load HDPatch
2. Load Input File.
3. If Size says 1920 x 1088 then Choose Preset > Fix1088 from Top Menu.
4. Click Patch Stream to fix headers.


Sometimes the file you now have will play on the PS3, but I suggest doing a quick Transcode just in case.

The reason for the transcode is to ensure compatibility with the PS3,
especially if the file has AC3 audio, transcode this to an MPEG PS file and you will get 2.0 sound, if you don't do this
you will not get any sound from the AC3 audio track.

The PS3 doesn't seem to play AC3 form any user created video clips.

Transcode Tutorial
-----------------------------------------
VLC Player is available here:
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

1. Open VLC Media Player.
2. Choose File > Wizard.
3. Select Transcode/ Save to file and Click Next
4. Click Choose and then Click Browse to select Input File, Click OK then Click Next
4. Click Next to skip Video & Audio re-encode, not required here.
5. Set Output to Format - MPEG TS or (MPEG PS for AC3 Audio) and Click Next
6. Click Choose and Set Output Filename & Folder and click Save.
7. Click Finish to start Transcode, this should be quick.

Note: AC3 Audio will transcode but get downgraded on playback on PS3 to 2 channel.

Where do you guys get all this HD media from? DVR?

Has anyone gotten this to work with HD Lite(1280x1080)? I've been fighting this for 3 weeks now. All I ever get is "corrupted file".
Thanks
Dug

Where do you guys get all this HD media from? DVR?

Some sources I use:

Firewire output from Motorola cable box (does not have to be a DVR).
Over the air capture card (I have a MyHD card).
Firewire output from DVHS deck.

I used VideoLan to change the encapsulation of files to "mpeg2 ps". This was very easy and only 1 step but they no longer play since the new firmware 1.6

Brian

help....
Can I just use ProjectX to edit?
I can't get HDTV2MPEG to work. Just a blank screen .
And can these be transferred directly to the Ps3 harddrive thorough redkawa or is this better with a DVD? thanks

You know I haven't used PROJECTX for editing, because to me HDTV2MPEG seems really simple and quick. Just grab projectx and mess around with it, it's free. If you already haven't you just need to install the Java Runtime Environment from Sun.com so you can run projectx.

As far as transfering to the PS3 that is up to you. I use the Abyss Webserver but it was really difficult to setup. You can give it a try but I don't even know how I got it to finally work, you just have to mess around with it. Also remember that you can't put files greater than 4GB on the PS3 hard drive so I usually split my hour long shows into 2 parts with ProjectX.

You know I haven't used PROJECTX for editing, because to me HDTV2MPEG seems really simple and quick. Just grab projectx and mess around with it, it's free. If you already haven't you just need to install the Java Runtime Environment from Sun.com so you can run projectx.

As far as transfering to the PS3 that is up to you. I use the Abyss Webserver but it was really difficult to setup. You can give it a try but I don't even know how I got it to finally work, you just have to mess around with it. Also remember that you can't put files greater than 4GB on the PS3 hard drive so I usually split my hour long shows into 2 parts with ProjectX.

Why split files and transfer them to the hard drive when you can just play transport streams from a dual layer DVD?

I've tried HDTV2MPEG for a few files. One file worked while the rest didn't. It's not a very reliable program because it doesn't react well to edits. The converted files may work on the PC but not on the PS3.


fuad

CanopusProcoder2 does all this the best. Just rename the inputfile to .mpg or m2p and follow the wizard. It splits the file to 4gb-parts if you want to.

TwinTurboZX,

Do these files play with firmware 1.6. All my 1080i files quit playing since I upgraded though the 720p ones still play. Thanks,


I'm having the same problem on my PS3 since updating to 1.6. My 720p 24 episodes play just fine, but after reading your post, I went back to try the 1080i Smallville episodes that used to work just fine and they stop playing in less than a minute. I tried running clips off the HDD and a DVD and they both failed in less than a minute. I'm using HDMI for video, optical for audio and have the XMB set to 480p/720p/1080i. For anyone else that has gotten 1080i MPEG 2 files (with AC3 soundtracks) to work on the PS3 with 1.6 firmware, could you share your PS3 configuration.

Title should add 'for PC users only'.

I'm having the same problem on my PS3 since updating to 1.6. My 720p 24 episodes play just fine, but after reading your post, I went back to try the 1080i Smallville episodes that used to work just fine and they stop playing in less than a minute. I tried running clips off the HDD and a DVD and they both failed in less than a minute. I'm using HDMI for video, optical for audio and have the XMB set to 480p/720p/1080i. For anyone else that has gotten 1080i MPEG 2 files (with AC3 soundtracks) to work on the PS3 with 1.6 firmware, could you share your PS3 configuration.

Try updating to firmware 1.7 and see if that fixes the 1080i problem.

Try updating to firmware 1.7 and see if that fixes the 1080i problem.

I still have problems with 1.7. I'm wondering if there are problems with 1920x1080i MPEG 2 PS files. I always use VLC to change MPEG 2 TS files to MPEG 2 PS files so that the AC3 audio would work. For those that didn't have problems with 1920x1080i MPEG 2 files on FW 1.6, I wonder if they used MPEG 2 PS files with AC3 audio.

Why split files and transfer them to the hard drive when you can just play transport streams from a dual layer DVD?

PS3 won't play any of my .ts files. I don't think it can.

I know it's an old thread but here my method and $.02

1) I capture OTA HD content to a DVR-MS container direct (5.1 AC3 audio and no further video compression)
1.1) Optionally I can edit out commercial content with DVRedit.
2) Take the DVR-MS file through DVRMStoolbox and transcode it to MPEG2 using AVIVO (about a minute per hour of video)
2.1) Optionally I can recode the MPEG2 into AVC/AAC to cut down on space.


That's it. I can stream it through WMP11 or put it on a UDF DVD and play it directly on the PS3. This is, of course, with the new 2.1 system software.

I'd like to transfer all my HD recorded shows from my notebook onto my PS3.

What program do you guys recommend for converting DVR-MS Files Created by Media Center into something the PS3 can read?

I'd like to transfer all my HD recorded shows from my notebook onto my PS3.

What program do you guys recommend for converting DVR-MS Files Created by Media Center into something the PS3 can read?

Lol...did you read my post just one above yours? :confused:

It works like a champ! I have a wired network and use WMP11 to stream the MPEG2/AC3 files to the PS3. And if you need to shrink them you can use Virtualdub or any other conversion software but I use Nero Recode to compress it to AVC/AAC MPEG4 streams. My computer (Athlon64x2-6000+, x1950PRO, 2GB DDR2-800 in dual channel, SATA-3.0GB, etc) chokes a little when playing the AVC content but the PS3 handles it without breaking a sweat.

Lol...did you read my post just one above yours? :confused:

It works like a champ! I have a wired network and use WMP11 to stream the MPEG2/AC3 files to the PS3. And if you need to shrink them you can use Virtualdub or any other conversion software but I use Nero Recode to compress it to AVC/AAC MPEG4 streams. My computer (Athlon64x2-6000+, x1950PRO, 2GB DDR2-800 in dual channel, SATA-3.0GB, etc) chokes a little when playing the AVC content but the PS3 handles it without breaking a sweat.

Hi, I want to try your method, but my MyHD card records to .tp files. How can I change a .tp or .ts transport stream file to a .dvr-ms file for use with DVREdit?

EDIT:

I found a program called TSConverter, and used it to transcode the TS to DVR-MS. However, DVREdit gives me all sorts of errors when trying to load that new DVR-MS file ("failed to add pToTS filter to graph" is one of them). Any ideas on how I can make this work? I am on Windows XP SP2 by the way.

Also, TSConverter seems to have some very quick error message run across the status section, stating something about an error downloading a codec for the TS file. What's up with that?


One other note... you mentioned above to "Take the DVR-MS file through DVREdit and transcode it to MPEG2 using AVIVO (about a minute per hour of video)". However, when I open a DVR-Ms file in DVREdit, and then select Tools>DVR to MPG, it tells me "Not Yet Implemented". What does that mean?

Hi, I want to try your method, but my MyHD card records to .tp files. How can I change a .tp or .ts transport stream file to a .dvr-ms file for use with DVREdit?

EDIT:

I found a program called TSConverter, and used it to transcode the TS to DVR-MS. However, DVREdit gives me all sorts of errors when trying to load that new DVR-MS file ("failed to add pToTS filter to graph" is one of them). Any ideas on how I can make this work? I am on Windows XP SP2 by the way.

Also, TSConverter seems to have some very quick error message run across the status section, stating something about an error downloading a codec for the TS file. What's up with that?


One other note... you mentioned above to "Take the DVR-MS file through DVREdit and transcode it to MPEG2 using AVIVO (about a minute per hour of video)". However, when I open a DVR-Ms file in DVREdit, and then select Tools>DVR to MPG, it tells me "Not Yet Implemented". What does that mean?

That was a typo on my part. DVRedit is used for cutting commercials where I need to use DVRMStoolbox to convert it. DVRMStoolbox is a command line utility but it also comes with a GUI called DVRMStoMPEG and if you have the ATI AVIVO converter installed on your machine it will allow you to quickly trascode your DVRMS to MPEG using AVIVO. Without AVIVO it takes hours and not minutes.

DVRMStoolbox
http://babgvant.com/files/folders/dvrmstoolbox/default.aspx

Read up on this to get AVIVO installed
http://www.rage3d.com/board/archive/index.php?t-33859276.html

You may just be better off trying to find a good way to transcode directly to MPEG instead DVRMS first.

That was a typo on my part. DVRedit is used for cutting commercials where I need to use DVRMStoolbox to convert it. DVRMStoolbox is a command line utility but it also comes with a GUI called DVRMStoMPEG and if you have the ATI AVIVO converter installed on your machine it will allow you to quickly trascode your DVRMS to MPEG using AVIVO. Without AVIVO it takes hours and not minutes.

DVRMStoolbox
http://babgvant.com/files/folders/dvrmstoolbox/default.aspx

Read up on this to get AVIVO installed
http://www.rage3d.com/board/archive/index.php?t-33859276.html

You may just be better off trying to find a good way to transcode directly to MPEG instead DVRMS first.

Thanks for the info. I may end up trying that out. However, last night I decided to encode the program to a DiVX file at 2 gigs, 1280 pixels wide. It actually looks really good on my HDTV via the PS3, and the sound and video are both solid. I will probably just do that until the PS3 has native support for .ts files with sound and video intact and working properly.

this is the method I've been using since getting my PS3 last December, works everytime.
...
Mpeg2 TS to Mpeg 2 mpeg file
-------------------------------------------------
Download HDTVtoMPEG2 latest version from here
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~balazer/HDTVtoMPEG2/index.html
...
Check for HDTV 1088, this will cause an error when loading on the PS3, better to check.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Download HDPatch from here
www.wallace3d.co.uk/miscstuff/HDPatch_0_3_01.zip

The PS3 doesn't seem to play AC3 form any user created video clips.
Transcode Tutorial
-----------------------------------------
VLC Player is available here:
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
Note: AC3 Audio will transcode but get downgraded on playback on PS3 to 2 channel.

I did all these steps and the video played ...FINALLY. Now I can start archiving my HD movies from Comcast.

I am BUMMED about losing the 5.1 channels though. Any work-around yet? I get PCM DPL II on my receiver from a clip recorded of MI2.

As far as transfering to the PS3 that is up to you. I use the Abyss Webserver but it was really difficult to setup.

I put the file as a link on my abyss website, but when I click on it on the pS3 webrowser it asks me to save the file to a storage card not to the PS3. How did you get it to just store it to the ps3?

I use TSRemux version 0.18 on my .ts files and output to Blu-Ray, then I burn the file to a normal DVD as a UDF 2.5. Plays great on my PS3 with the 5.1 intact.

I just tried TSRemux on a HD clip and I got a directory structure that looked like this at the root:

/BDMV
/CERTIFICATE

I read up some on some examples of directory structures and I noticed one was missing.
/aacs

I am getting no sound when I play the DVD.

Yeah, that's what I get too. You then put the BDMV folder and Certificate folder into your project and burn as as a UDF 2.5 structure. Make sure you are using TSREmux version 0.18, the newer version has a bug in it and you won't get sound. Also, don't put the folder that TSRemux creates, put the BDMV folder and the Certificate folder in your project.

Yeah, that's what I get too. You then put the BDMV folder and Certificate folder into your project and burn as as a UDF 2.5 structure. Make sure you are using TSREmux version 0.18, the newer version has a bug in it and you won't get sound. Also, don't put the folder that TSRemux creates, put the BDMV folder and the Certificate folder in your project.

HOLY CARP!!! Thats why I'm not getting sound?!!?!

Let me try that right now. THANKS!

Wow. Made a babystep forward.

I got sound. Dolby Digital. 384kbs but only 2ch. Video is 19.1 mb/s

I wonder if the original stream is 2 channel.

BTW. I tried to select udf 2.5 and record using a DVD-RW. But I got an error saying "illegal Disc". Is it possible to use a DVDRW for this?

I would like to add that the sound is over my OPTICAL connection to my receiver.

Make sure you are using TSREmux version 0.18, the newer version has a bug in it and you won't get sound.

Found out that ver 0.19 has a box now that says bypass audio and it comes up checked but should be unchecked.

BTW. I tried to select udf 2.5 and record using a DVD-RW. But I got an error saying "illegal Disc". Is it possible to use a DVDRW for this?

It seems it's a problem with either my drive or my media. I have another drive just have to plug it in. It doesn't do DL so I haven't been using it.

I use TSRemux version 0.18 on my .ts files and output to Blu-Ray, then I burn the file to a normal DVD as a UDF 2.5. Plays great on my PS3 with the 5.1 intact.

You. Are. A. Lifesaver!

I just took a short .ts clip, ran it through TSRemux with the following settings:

[x] Bypass Audio Alignment
[x] Use async I/O

Output Format
[x] TS (188 byte packets)

Select the elementary streams you want to keep:
[x] MPEG2 Video Stream # XX
[x] Dolby Digital Audio Stream # XX

I set the output file name and hit the "Remux" button. The resulting .ts file streamed PERFECTLY to my PS3, with the Dolby 5.1 sound intact (at least according to the PS3's info viewer). This is so great... after all of the conversion programs I have tried, this simple step fixes the problem in a matter of minutes. Thanks for your input!

OK, either I spoke too soon, or I am going nuts...

As I stated above, the TSRemux method worked like a charm on the small .ts clip. I then tried it on the full episode of the new Terminator show (the pilot), and it worked perfectly as well. The second episode aired last night, so I ran it through the same routine as the small clip and the pilot episode... and it did NOT work... the video plays, but I get the same old "no audio" issue.

Doesn't it seem strange that two shows from the same network would yield different results. I will record more shows tonight to test with, and will try rebooting my PC etc... anyone else have any idea on why this would occur?

OK, either I spoke too soon, or I am going nuts...

As I stated above, the TSRemux method worked like a charm on the small .ts clip. I then tried it on the full episode of the new Terminator show (the pilot), and it worked perfectly as well. The second episode aired last night, so I ran it through the same routine as the small clip and the pilot episode... and it did NOT work... the video plays, but I get the same old "no audio" issue.

Doesn't it seem strange that two shows from the same network would yield different results. I will record more shows tonight to test with, and will try rebooting my PC etc... anyone else have any idea on why this would occur?

I think I was right about the "nuts" part. I tried unchecking the "Bypass Audio Alignment" box, and that fixed the issue. I must have done that one my first two remuxes without realizing that I had done so.

No problems for me by using TSRemux 0.19,

unchecking [ ] Bypass Audio Alignment
[x] Use async I/O

Output Format
[x] TS (188 byte packets)

Select the elementary streams you want to keep:
[x] MPEG2 Video Stream # XX
[x] Dolby Digital Audio Stream # XX

output to Blu-Ray

Burning a DVD in Nero UDF 2.5 selected. Works great. I watched Chronicles episode 2. (Kind of ironic we picked the same thing)

THANKS to Largo!

No problems for me by using TSRemux 0.19,

unchecking [ ] Bypass Audio Alignment
[x] Use async I/O

Output Format
[x] TS (188 byte packets)

Select the elementary streams you want to keep:
[x] MPEG2 Video Stream # XX
[x] Dolby Digital Audio Stream # XX

output to Blu-Ray

Burning a DVD in Nero UDF 2.5 selected. Works great. I watched Chronicles episode 2. (Kind of ironic we picked the same thing)

THANKS to Largo!

That is very funny that we chose the same thing. Small world!

Can I ask... why did you burn it, instead of streaming it or transferring it to your PS3 using RedKawa Fileserver or a USB thumbdrive, etc? Did you just want an archival copy of the show?

By the way, I use HDTVtoMPEG2 to convert the TS files to MPG... otherwise, the PS3 will not allow you to transfer them to its HDD, because it does not recognize TS files that way (although it does through my TVersity Media Server... strange...).

Hmm... I tried the above method on two shows I recorded from NBC: Law and Order SVU and ER. Both of them have sound and video, but I get the same old "video jumping around" activity. I wonder if there is some difference in the TS files recorded from the two different sources. thomasr20de, have you tried this yet on anything other than the Terminator episode?

I have also made Blu-rays the New Sarah Connor Chronicles. I haven't tried other recordings from other broadcast networks. It's worked perfectly from the movies I record from pretty much all the HD pay channels( HBO, HDNEt Movies, TLC..etc).

I have also made Blu-rays the New Sarah Connor Chronicles. I haven't tried other recordings from other broadcast networks. It's worked perfectly from the movies I record from pretty much all the HD pay channels( HBO, HDNEt Movies, TLC..etc).

Do you know if you can stream the Blu Ray files to the PS3, like you can stream VOB files, via TVersity? I might try that out...

Do you know if you can stream the Blu Ray files to the PS3, like you can stream VOB files, via TVersity? I might try that out...

Definitely try that one out. Might solve all the problems.

What the $#%@ is Traversity doing when it just sits there forever recreating media library.

Well here are my results:

Playing a Burned disc I get DolbyDigital
Streaming the file from the disc using TVersity I get DPL II

I'm not sure what is happening but if I burn the file to the DVD using the BluRay structure I get Dolby digital but not when I stream the file

Oh and by the way I tried streaming a 4gig file from the bluray structure and PS3 reported it as corrupted.

In all cases above I had transcoding turned off on TVersity.

Anybody got any suggestions on how to transdcode just the audio to 5.1 using TVersity?

It appears that it's more of an issue with the PS3 software not the file. If it's streaming a file it plays it PCM, if it's from a disc it uses Dolby Digital. You may not be able to get 5.1 Dolby Digital from a streamed file yet. I'm not sure.

It appears that it's more of an issue with the PS3 software not the file. If it's streaming a file it plays it PCM, if it's from a disc it uses Dolby Digital. You may not be able to get 5.1 Dolby Digital from a streamed file yet. I'm not sure.

I stream MPEG-2 HD movies with AC-3(DD) sound just fine using WMP11. My guess would be you have TVersity setup to transcode unknown, but Directshow compliant, audio streams to 2 channel PCM and that's why your reciever is encoding the stream to PL2. In a case where the source content is already AC-3 then transcoding is just going to break your 5.1 sound.....

I selected NEVER under transcode on TVersity. Will it still transcode anyway?

I'm having difficulties with Windows Media Server right now. Just stopped working for some reason (even if I shut down Tversity). I might have removed a port that it was using on the router. Not sure.

I stream MPEG-2 HD movies with AC-3(DD) sound just fine using WMP11. My guess would be you have TVersity setup to transcode unknown, but Directshow compliant, audio streams to 2 channel PCM and that's why your reciever is encoding the stream to PL2. In a case where the source content is already AC-3 then transcoding is just going to break your 5.1 sound.....

These MPEG-2 HD movies that you are streaming... where are they sourced from? Are they TS files transcoded to MPEG-2, or are they native MPEG-2? If they are transcoded, what is your method, and which programs do you use?

These MPEG-2 HD movies that you are streaming... where are they sourced from? Are they TS files transcoded to MPEG-2, or are they native MPEG-2? If they are transcoded, what is your method, and which programs do you use?

They are native DVR-MS with AC-3, transcoded to MPEG-2 with AC-3.

My methods are listed earlier in this thread.....

I think the key for me has been with using WMP11 to serve them.....when I tried usign Nero Home to serve the media it would NOT send over the AC-3 stream no matter how I tried.

Here's a rundown of what happened using various methods of playback of the exact same file (Ice Age recorded over the air HD MPEG2/AC3 5.1 audio):

Served using WMP11 - Perfect playback
Served using Nero Home - Video playback good, audio PCM 2.0
Played off of DL DVD - Perfect playback
Played off of external USB harddrive - Perfect Playback
Copied to PS3 internal harddrive from external- Perfect playback

I havent had time to try Tversity yet so I dont know how it's setup but with Nero, even when I force transcoding off, it refuses to send the native stream through as AC3.

Is there any loss or change in Video quality going from *.ts file to a mpe2 file? I'm not to worried about changing the audio quality as long as I keep 5.1. My speakers aren't as great as my Sony Bravia.

Is there any loss or change in Video quality going from *.ts file to a mpe2 file? I'm not to worried about changing the audio quality as long as I keep 5.1. My speakers aren't as great as my Sony Bravia.

TS & DVR-MS are just wrappers for a combination of decoders....which in the case of captured HDTV is usually done as MPEG-2 & PCM or AC-3.

They are native DVR-MS with AC-3, transcoded to MPEG-2 with AC-3.

My methods are listed earlier in this thread.....

I think the key for me has been with using WMP11 to serve them.....when I tried usign Nero Home to serve the media it would NOT send over the AC-3 stream no matter how I tried.

Here's a rundown of what happened using various methods of playback of the exact same file (Ice Age recorded over the air HD MPEG2/AC3 5.1 audio):

Served using WMP11 - Perfect playback
Served using Nero Home - Video playback good, audio PCM 2.0
Played off of DL DVD - Perfect playback
Played off of external USB harddrive - Perfect Playback
Copied to PS3 internal harddrive from external- Perfect playback

I havent had time to try Tversity yet so I dont know how it's setup but with Nero, even when I force transcoding off, it refuses to send the native stream through as AC3.

I am thinking that your success lies in the DVR-MS. I have jumpy video while streaming, playing from an external HDD, or playing directly from the PS3 HDD (except for captures from Fox). I wish I could get my TS files to transcode to DVR-MS, but it always gives me problems.

I transcoded the .ts file to Mpeg2 using HDTVtoMpeg2 but I haven't had a chance to burn it yet and play it on the PS3 or to stream it yet. I would like to find a program that can tell me what format the stream is, video and audio. I would also like to transcode just the audio to AC-3.

Well, MPEG Streamclip (mentioned in the first post on this thread) does the trick of detecting what audio and video is contained in the file. It says the transcoded file is now MPEG2 ( 224 1920x1080 29.9699999 fps and 19.9 Mbs and AC-3 2.0 channel 48Khz and 384kbps)

So when I get home I will try and stream this from TVersity with transcoding selected off and see if I get Dolby Digital or Dolby Prologic.

I captured and converted a program from ABC last night, and it plays back flawlessly using the same method I use with my Fox recordings. So far, NBC is the only station whose content gives me jumpy video playback on my PS3.

Well even though MPEG Streamclip says the file is in AC-3 and 2 channels I get DPII PCM when I use TVersity to stream the file to the PS3. I'm not sure what is happening. I have transcode NEVER selected on TVersity.

I finally got Windows Media Server working again (conflict with TVersity) but when it streams the file it also streams it at DPLII PCM 2 channel.

Could FFDSHOW be interfering with the streaming? How can someone get AC3 and I get DPLII PCM when we used the same transcoding procedures on an AC3 encoded audio/video clip.

The individual file streamed via wmp11 streams in DPLII, transfered via RedKawa, DPLII. Played via AVC (bluray/DVD) disc DOLBY DIGITAL.

I have a setting wrong somewhere.

Is anyone getting DOBLYDIGITAL from their OPTICAL connection when streaming or playing a user made file downloaded on the PS3.

Is anyone getting DOBLYDIGITAL from their OPTICAL connection when streaming or playing a user made file downloaded on the PS3.
Yep, streaming Program Streams (.mpg) from WMP11.

For reference for anyone that needs it, I've finally managed to stream TS files with DTS 5.1, although this required some work to prepare them, it did eventually work.

See http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12997326#post12997326

Didn't work for me. I converted a TS with AC-3 to mpeg using HDTVtoMpeg and got DPII PCM when streamed via wmp11 and optical to receiver.

Something I did notice though. If I select video information from the triangle button it says it's a Dolby Digital Audio with 381k 2 channel. I wonder how come my receiver thinks it's PCM DPLII. Do you think I have a setting wrong somewhere on the PS3 that makes it PCM when it goes to the receiver?

If I play BluRay movie I get DolbyDigital or DTS, If I play a game I get DolbyDigital. If I am moving around playstation menus I get DPLII and PCM same when I'm playing a video file. Even if file has DD track. I'm not sure why this is happening.

Does anyone get DD when moving around the ps3 menus?

From the PS3 Secrets Link I got this:

Because of the current bandwidth limitations of TOSLINK, choosing Linear PCM (the decoded and uncompressed signal) on this connection limits you to only two channels of audio. For multichannel (like 5.1) over TOSLINK, you must use "bitstream", which uses smaller bandwidth of compressed and encoded data.

So how are you getting DolbyDigital 5.1 sound over TOSLINK? Are you using Bitstream?

Well, I started suspecting my clips since other stuff play DD just fine. I downloaded an MPG HDTV clip, it played 5.1 sound streamed via WMP11.

I will have to work on my clips. I'm going to demux them and see if I can run the ac3 stream thru a ac-3 converter and select ac3 and see if it fixes it.

Who knows. Maybe the pS3 converts all 2 channel DD to PCM DPLII.