View Full Version : Which of these two OTA Ant. are best


stephenp1983
04-20-07, 09:24 AM
This would be at a lake house and would be used first for just getting standard local channels, and if possible getting them in HD. Direct doesn't offer locals in this area so they said we would have to have an antenna.

Terk Off-Air HDTV Antenna - Grey
Model: HDTV-S
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6830824&type=product&productCategoryId=cat08083&id=1091101853739

Or

Philips DirecTV UHF Antenna (SDV9201K)

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Philips-DirecTV-UHF-Antenna-SDV9201K/sem/rpsm/oid/158306/catOid/-15607/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

nybbler
04-20-07, 10:28 AM
Neither, most likely. The Phillips is massively overpriced for what it is. If you'd be willing to consider the Phillips, there's probably no reason to consider the HDTVs; there are much less expensive antennas. The HDTVs's advantage is that it doesn't look like an antenna.

Before you can choose an antenna, you need to find out what bands the channels you want to receive are on, and how far away they are in what direction. Check out the antennaweb.org website for that information.

ToddUGA
04-20-07, 10:44 AM
Give us your zip code and we'll try to help you find the antenna that fits your needs.

stephenp1983
04-20-07, 11:01 AM
The zip is 36853 and its dadeville alabama. I thought antenna web was just for high def antenna's we would be happy just getting the locals in standard def and then if possible in high def. Thanks for the help

afiggatt
04-20-07, 11:06 AM
Before you can choose an antenna, you need to find out what bands the channels you want to receive are on, and how far away they are in what direction. Check out the antennaweb.org website for that information.
I assume the OP is looking for an antenna setup that will also work after the analog shutdown in 2009. We can look up to see if any of the digital stations that are currently broadcasting are going to switch to upper VHF in 2009.

As nybller said, neither antenna may be appropriate. Please post the zip code of the lake house and then we can help.

afiggatt
04-20-07, 11:18 AM
The zip is 36853 and its dadeville alabama. I thought antenna web was just for high def antenna's we would be happy just getting the locals in standard def and then if possible in high def. Thanks for the help
Our posts must have passed each other in the wire. You will need something much more substantial than either of these two antennas for digital reception from that zip code. Using your zip code and a antenna height of 300' to get a more complete list, the digital stations that antennaweb shows are:

* green - uhf WSFA-DT 12.1 NBC MONTGOMERY AL 204° 60.6 14
* lt green - uhf WRJM-DT 48 MNT TROY AL FCC Ext 193° 51.6 48
* red - uhf WCIQ-DT 7.1 PBS MOUNT CHEAHA AL 1° 47.7 56
* red - uhf WBIH-DT 29 IND SELMA AL 257° 63.6 29
* red - uhf WBMM-DT 22 CW TUSKEGEE AL Now Available 193° 51.0 22
* red - uhf WAIQ-DT 26.1 PBS MONTGOMERY AL 228° 40.8 27
* blue - uhf WJSP-DT 23 PBS COLUMBUS GA 07-08 89° 63.4 23
* blue - uhf WNCF-DT 32.1 ABC MONTGOMERY AL 226° 40.2 51

Some of these may be stations that antennaweb still has in it's database as operating at low power, but have since gone full power. All of these stations are currently at UHF, but a check of the FCC spreadsheet for post analog shutdown shows WSFA-DT NBC 12 in Montgomery and WCIQ-DT PBS 7 switching this digital broadcast to VHF 12 & 7 in 2009.

These stations are 40 to 60 miles, so you need a long range antenna setup with a rotator, not the small medium range antennas that you listed. Since you probably want to get the analog VHF stations between now and 2009, a medium to long range VHF/UHF antenna on the rooftop may be needed. Or you could put up a Channel Master 4228 8 Bay bowtie which may have the performance you need to get the upper VHF stations in 2009.

ToddUGA
04-20-07, 11:42 AM
You're definitely going to need a powerful antenna placed as high as you can get it and even then there are no guarantees. For combination UHF/VHF antennas, the Winegard Hd8200P is as good as it gets. If you just want to get the UHF stations then the Channel Master 4228 or the Antennas Direct 91XG are your two best bets. You'll probably need a pre-amp as well. The Channel Master 7777 pre-amp is regarded as one of the best pre-amps on the market.

My advice would be to buy the 4228 or 91xg with the Channel Master 7777 pre-amp and a rotor. Try to get the antenna as high as you can. Then when WSFA and WCIQ switch to VHF 12 and 7 in the future, you can add a separate VHF antenna.

Good luck.

stephenp1983
04-20-07, 11:57 AM
Alright any recommendations on where to purchase these. I saw one site that had the Winegard Hd8200P at 168, but shipping was 167. We intended to put it on the roof. I think the Winegard Hd8200P would be the best choice because it does both uhf and vhf. So we would need a preamp with that one as well correct? Would the channel master preamp you mentioned work with the Winegard Hd8200P ?

afiggatt
04-20-07, 01:01 PM
Alright any recommendations on where to purchase these. I saw one site that had the Winegard Hd8200P at 168, but shipping was 167. We intended to put it on the roof. I think the Winegard Hd8200P would be the best choice because it does both uhf and vhf. So we would need a preamp with that one as well correct? Would the channel master preamp you mentioned work with the Winegard Hd8200P ?
The Winegard HD8200P is a very large antenna at 177" or over 11' long which can tax a mount. See http://www.winegard.com/offair/vhfuhf.htm. At 40 to 60 miles, you are medium to long range, not really deep fringe. You may want to look at the smaller HD7082P or a combination of the AntennasDirect 91XG for UHF and a more compact upper VHF only antenna such as one of these: http://www.winegard.com/offair/vhf.htm. Looking at the full list of analog and digital stations for your zip code, I don't see any nearby low VHF stations - the closest is a WRBL CBS 3 in Columbus, GA at ~ 67 miles - so low VHF coverage is not needed. Your best option may be a Channel Master 4228 8 Bay or a combination of the AntennasDirect 91XG with a Winegard YA-6713.

Jesse31
04-20-07, 01:07 PM
...You may want to look at the smaller HD7082P or a combination of the AntennasDirect 91XG for UHF and a more compact upper VHF only antenna...

I agree sounds like the combination of the two will be better.

See EBay for Winegard prices...You also might want to consider a Winegard 8780 preamp...it has more gain on UHF.

ToddUGA
04-20-07, 02:09 PM
I agree sounds like the combination of the two will be better.

See EBay for Winegard prices...You also might want to consider a Winegard 8780 preamp...it has more gain on UHF.

91xg, pre-amp, and rotor are my recommendations as well. Since two of his channels aren't switching to VHF 7 and 12 until 2009, I'd probably hold off on the separate VHF antenna. He may be able to pick them up with the 91xg when the time comes since they are hi VHF. If not, then he can add the separate VHF antenna.

stephenp1983
04-20-07, 02:23 PM
Yeah after looking more closely I think that I'll go with jsut one of the uhf ones that was mentioned. Who knows by 2009 something else may be offered. Anyone have a preference over the channel master vs the Antennas Direct 91XG?

ToddUGA
04-20-07, 02:33 PM
Yeah after looking more closely I think that I'll go with jsut one of the uhf ones that was mentioned. Who knows by 2009 something else may be offered. Anyone have a preference over the channel master vs the Antennas Direct 91XG?

The 91XG handles multipath better than the 4228 does. What do your surroundings look like? Will there be a lot of trees and other obstacles in the way?

Jesse31
04-20-07, 02:37 PM
I have a 91XG and I can tell you that with enough height and a good preamp it is awesome...My 91XG is 100' above sea level in eastern nc and 80 mile digital reception is no problem even during the day.

stephenp1983
04-20-07, 04:44 PM
Yes there are alot of tall pine trees there. So much we couldn't get dish network to install there dish, and had to swith to direct. I think if we put it on the roof it would be above or close to the top of most of them though. The dish guy said he couldn't mount the HD dish on the roof though, although the direct tv guy didn't have a problem with it.

ToddUGA
04-20-07, 05:43 PM
Yes there are alot of tall pine trees there. So much we couldn't get dish network to install there dish, and had to swith to direct. I think if we put it on the roof it would be above or close to the top of most of them though. The dish guy said he couldn't mount the HD dish on the roof though, although the direct tv guy didn't have a problem with it.

Go with the 91XG then. Get it up as high as you can with a pre-amp and rotor and you should be set.