View Full Version : Help With Cables, fishing, setup
TomR1972 04-21-07, 12:43 PM I am having my room finished up and they ran conduit from the wall where my HT receiver will be to the ceiling where the projector is. Problem is they ran to small of conduit for me to easily run any cable with a plug on the end. Is there any way to get cables without the ends attached so I can fish it through and then attach after its pulled through?
Can anyone help me, any ideas, alternatives?
Thanks,
Tom R
You could just cut the cables you have and splice the ends back together after you run it.
Component cable is easy, but I've never tried anything digital. I'm sure if you had the schematic you would be fine.
rboster 04-21-07, 06:09 PM Tom: What type of cable are you running? HDMI, DVI, VGA, Component? Have you considered not using the conduit? Running cables through walls can be tough, but it really depends on the route you have to take....ie: My HT is a converted garage with attic space above. My equipment is in a large closet with wires running through the wall into attic to 7 speakers and projector.
The attic space allowed me as a non-DIY guy to do the wiring on my own.
Ron
PS: I remember a cabling system that allowed you to change the ends of the cables as your inputs etc changed without changing the cables...don't remember the name of the cables...I'll see if it comes up in a google search
PS:
rboster 04-21-07, 06:19 PM I think this is it...it's called Rapid Run
http://www.cablestogo.com/rapidrun/HowItWorks.asp?#top
TomR1972 04-21-07, 08:53 PM This is the issue there is no access from above without ripping out oak flooring in the bedrooms above!!! I was going to run hdmi and I have only found one place that sells the end connectors but its a job that is probably out of my league. All I need to the projector is the video as my sound will come from the receiver. This is what happens when I get to busy at work while having people at my house working that I can't watch over, argh!!! I looked at that rapid run stuff I am just wondering if there is one hdmi cable mfg that has a narrower cable than the rest. Kind of hoping someone else had the same issue and found an answer, cause I havn't!
Thanks for the all feedback keep it coming if you have some other ideas!
rrempel 04-21-07, 09:11 PM SVGA cables are available with a DIN connector near one end.
An example is at rpelectronics.com (search for 55-614-EI-25 ). Probably your local supplier will have a similar product.
Component cables are fairly safe to remove the ends, or pull 3 separate sheilded RCA runs
HDMI is pretty small. If you need DVI you can get HDMI-to-DVI adapters.
You have my sympathy. I did exactly the same thing when finishing my basement. Nobody to blame but myself though.
Rod.
rboster 04-21-07, 09:18 PM what is the size of conduit, so we know the limitations you are working with?
I am not an expert of cables, but maybe someone can chime in on using Cat cables...is it possible for a digital signal?
TomR1972 04-22-07, 02:49 AM Ok the conduit is 3/4 inch LOL~~~ I tried the one and only hdmi cable i have on a test piece of conduit that was left over and it barely fits. This does me no good since it must go roughly 15 feet with two turns!
I am getting close to the point of where I must rip out some drywall and setup a new run.
Any other thoughts? Thanks much so far, I am all ears!
Tom R
Silverfox1 04-22-07, 08:24 AM Ok the conduit is 3/4 inch LOL~~~ I tried the one and only hdmi cable i have on a test piece of conduit that was left over and it barely fits. This does me no good since it must go roughly 15 feet with two turns!
I am getting close to the point of where I must rip out some drywall and setup a new run.
Any other thoughts? Thanks much so far, I am all ears!
Tom R
IMO If you feel you must run the cable of your choice thru conduit why not as a friend of mine did and use 1" PVC which is a whole lot cheaper.
Regards
bkdg100 04-22-07, 08:32 AM calrad offers a adapter system for most video & audio . calrad.com
rboster 04-22-07, 08:59 AM IMO If you feel you must run the cable of your choice thru conduit why not as a friend of mine did and use 1" PVC which is a whole lot cheaper.
Regards
I think you need to reread his original post....the problems lies in that he hired a company to install the conduit already, which was the wrong size=the conduit is currently inplace. Now he is trying to avoid reinstalling new conduit....so sizing up to 1 inch is a last resort.
bcarlsen 04-22-07, 09:02 AM Run a very thin cable such as speaker wire first. Then attach it to the HDMI cable, lubricate the HDMI cable and pull it through. 3/4" PVC should be plenty for a single HDMI cable.
If you're having trouble getting the initial wire through the conduit try this: tie a long string to a small plastic bag. Put the plastic bag on one end of the conduit and have someone use a vacuum cleaner on the other end. The bag will go right through.
phelmers 04-22-07, 12:02 PM Tom:
One other option I haven't seen mentioned here is to use "baluns" and Cat5 cable to transmit the signal. Do a search of the AVS forums for baluns and you'll find lots of recommendations. In general you'll need one on each end of the Cat5 cable. They're available for Component video, DVI, HDMI, digital audio, etc. Some manufacturers I've found are CELabs, Muxlab, Intelix, Niles, AudioAuthority, Unicom, and ETS. They range in price from about $75 each and up.
- Peter
TomR1972 04-26-07, 08:28 PM Ok so I got in wall hdmi cable had it reinstalled before the texturing got done however now i have a new problem....
The cable is just barely too short on both ends.
Question do they make some kind of extender? I probable can make do on the projector side but the receiver side is definetely about 3 feet too short.
Any ideas?!
Thanks,
Tom R
Y2KFirehawk 04-26-07, 08:55 PM Question do they make some kind of extender? I probable can make do on the projector side but the receiver side is definetely about 3 feet too short.
Tom, no sweat, just get one of these! (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041907&p_id=2781&seq=1&format=2&style=)
then you can extend by however much you need/want to.
Y2KFirehawk 04-26-07, 08:56 PM I think this is it...it's called Rapid Run
http://www.cablestogo.com/rapidrun/HowItWorks.asp?#top
That stuff is pretty neat! Thanks for sharing! :cool:
bvsquidley 04-27-07, 02:09 PM tie a long string to a small plastic bag. Put the plastic bag on one end of the conduit and have someone use a vacuum cleaner on the other end. The bag will go right through.
That's a pretty neat trick! I will have to remember it. Thanks!
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