Halo 3 Beta Build Gameplay Video - Map: Last Resort (aka. Zanzibar)

Quality Version (~7 mins)
Streamed:
http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=59795

Download:
1. (Not working) http://www.theppfnoobs.com/HeMp/Halo%203%20Beta%20-%20Zanzibar%20Remake.mpg
(You need to save this to disk as soon as you open it. ie: click the link, then click File > Save as...)
2. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W1LJHPT5 (possible codec problems, download WMP codecs)
3. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DHLCVPOO (Works, might need codecs or VLC)

Enjoy.

Looks freaking sweet, and the graphics look way better then the Alpha builds we were seeing.

Sorry, the quality version site seems to be down. If someone finds another source please post a link. I'll search for one also.

Looks good! Can't wait to play and kick everyones butt!!! lol

Having only played the SP on the first Halo, I'm kindof excited about this game, even though that video doesn't do a whole lot to impress me, I guess.

Glad they brought back Zanzibar.

What kind of files are these (what codec do i need)? They're not playing on my system.

anybody else have trouble playing the mpg version? i got the megaupload version but media player didnt like it and crashed when i tried to play it and vlc plays it but it glitches constantly.

even the youtube version looks better than the build that i played


now the hud even looks like its reflecting off of the inside of your helmet, i never noticed that before.

i'd like to strangle whoever put that music over top the video. so annoying.

You might want to download some WMP codecs if it isn't working. Though I haven't tested the file yet as I was at work when I posted the links.

I'm downloading the second Megadownload file and will report back how that one is.

Nope, the 3rd one doesn't play properly in any of my media players either. What codec is needed for these?

Play it using the VLC media player.

Try this Codec, post if it worked afterwards please:
http://www.free-codecs.com/GPL_MPEG-1_2_DirectShow_Decoder_Filter_download.htm

Sweet, installed the VLC thing and it worked. Game looks awesome BTW.

pfff....I seen better PS3.....

Then go play it.

Then go play it.

PS3 plays games? I thought it was just a Blue-Ray player.

OMG...My ears are bleeding!!!!! I wouldn't listen to that music if I was rolling

this guy is playing the beta pass it on

http://live.xbox.com/en-US/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=fry

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k217/FRUMPUS1337/Halo3ts.jpg

this guy is playing the beta pass it on

http://live.xbox.com/en-US/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=fry

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k217/FRUMPUS1337/Halo3ts.jpg


Actually there are several AVS members that are already playing the beta (and have been playing since the Alpha) .

-- Jason

Freakin amazing I dont think I can wait to much longer. I hope until they wait for me to graduate college becuase if this game comes out now I might just have to quit and I am a senior!!!!!

I've had that stupid music in my head all day. I even started whistling it at work. :P

Hopefully these movies finally settle the debate that this game "will be similar in graphics to halo2 cause thats what it looks like in the alpha pictures" lol. This game looks great, and will only get better.

Wasnt halo 2 for the original xbox? I can't see how anyone would think that there wouldn't be a big improvement going from halo 2 to halo 3...

the graphics look ok, but it's an alpha version, I hope better for the final release. I don't expect the graphics to be like the video or it will be a disappointment for me.

The song was in the soundtrack for Kill Bill Vol. 1, the original one, the one in the video is a mediocre mix.

The song was in the soundtrack for Kill Bill Vol. 1, the original one, the one in the video is a mediocre mix.


the song is titled "twisted nerve" and comes from the original score for the 1968 film titled "Twisted Nerve"

i'm not sure who did that particular remix (not a fan) but i do like the Bart Blackstone remix (available on hanzo steel) which mixes the track with a little "thriller" action (micheal jackson)

Actually there are several AVS members that are already playing the beta (and have been playing since the Alpha) .

-- Jason


umm ok.. :confused:

the graphics look ok, but it's an alpha version, I hope better for the final release. I don't expect the graphics to be like the video or it will be a disappointment for me.

This is a Beta Build video, it says that right on the video. So I'm not sure why you think this an Alpha build. There might be more polishing to do, but it seems like most of the lighting, shading and textures are in place. Maybe they still have work to do on the models, I don't know. But Beta is usually a sign of what the final project will look like, so I wouldn't expect big changes.

Judging from the Megaupload version, those graphics will not look bad at all in full 720p when we are playing the game. Sure, they won't be as good as Gears of War, but they are hardly "bad." Looks like a solid 7 or 8 graphics-wise so far to me.

Bring it on!

Halo has always been a case of the sum being greater than the parts. They've never been the absolute best at any one aspect of gaming, but outstanding overall, with no weak spots.

Mediocre graphics is the least of my worries about H3.

It looks like fun. I have already pre ordered my copy. But, I can't help but be underwhelmed by the graphics. I can't imagine that what I just saw would impress anyone who has seen other games on 360 or PS3. I never expected it to wow me graphically though. If they are concentrating on making the gameplay fun then that is fine by me. Of course I would rather have good gameplay and jaw dropping visuals.

So do you guys think it will be released in Sept. as rumored or in Nov.? Regardless, I think what you see is what you get. It is improbable that a game that has been in development for so long would recieve an overhaul in a few short months.

That music makes me want to rip my ears off!

Don't get me wrong I love Halo 1 & 2 and have 3 on order but that video was completely underwhelming. Hopefully that is an early beta build that has already been scrapped. :(

What kind of graphics are you guys really expecting? I'm serious. What would pass as amazing in H3?

What kind of graphics are you guys really expecting? I'm serious. What would pass as amazing in H3?

You know.....if it was next gen graphics.....they would say, "it doesn't look anything like Halo 1 or 2 did, WAAHHHHHHH".......and since now it appears they haven't done much except added a few weapons and enhancements here and there, they are STILL not happy because it doesn't look like next gen graphics, WAHHHHHH. Get over it people because you know you'll be playing this game as soon as it releases.

I'll be happy simply if the game plays as fluid as it did for Halo 1 and 2. :)

I watched that video and it was quite underwhelming. If you take a year or longer to work on a game and I'm going drop 60, that game better not look anything like Halo 1 or 2. That said, I'll be playing for sure, but all of this hype for a game that looks like a game from 2 yrs ago on a previous gen machine ain't cool.

Looks like Halo1/2 to me. I'm too old for run and gun games.

I'm too old for run and gun games.

I've been told that the Wii is a big hit at many senior centers. Perhaps you could look into that?

What would impress me is something that looks like the other games coming out this fall. I have seen really impressive and exciting stuff from Bioshock, UT3, Ratchet and Clank, LAIR, NG:S and others. I don't hold Halo 3 to a higher standard because I was never really crazy about Halo 1 and 2, but Halo 3 is nowhere close to its competition. I hate to even bring this up becuase it could turn this thread into something ugly, but even Resistance looks better than this.

All of these people talking shyt now.. will be the very same ones fighting to have Halo3 on its very release day. Bickering back and forth with them about Halo3's next gen graphics or not.. will have ZERO effect on sales of this title.

To put it simply.. atleast 1 out of every 2 360 owners will buy this game. So if their 10 million 360's sold right now.. expect atleast 5 million copies of Halo3 to be sold. Hell even GOW sold over 3 million in a few months.

I cant imagine a person on AVSforum who will not be picking this up as soon as it is available. Even if they are pressing the reply button right now saying how much they DONT care about Halo3.

Halo isnt just a game.. it is the franchise that single handedly made sure the xbox succeeded. Anybody who forgets that.. might as well forget why they bought a 360 in the first place. Do you really think they would be releasing a playable Beta months before release if this game wasnt up to par? That would only cut sales. There is no way this game will dissapoint.

looks sweet

Sweet, Zanzibar never looked so good!

All of these people talking shyt now.. will be the very same ones fighting to have Halo3 on its very release day. Bickering back and forth with them about Halo3's next gen graphics or not.. will have ZERO effect on sales of this title.

To put it simply.. atleast 1 out of every 2 360 owners will buy this game. So if their 10 million 360's sold right now.. expect atleast 5 million copies of Halo3 to be sold. Hell even GOW sold over 3 million in a few months.

I cant imagine a person on AVSforum who will not be picking this up as soon as it is available. Even if they are pressing the reply button right now saying how much they DONT care about Halo3.

Halo isnt just a game.. it is the franchise that single handedly made sure the xbox succeeded. Anybody who forgets that.. might as well forget why they bought a 360 in the first place. Do you really think they would be releasing a playable Beta months before release if this game wasnt up to par? That would only cut sales. There is no way this game will dissapoint.

Bravo! and thanks for putting it into perspective.

I say, if you don't like it, dont play it....pretty simple. Less lag for the rest of us!

Im not impressed with the graphics either, the videos were not very good though. Looks like they have a long way to go yet.

The fact the its title is Halo 3 is not enough for people to go right in and drop $60 of hard earned cash on a game that just has great game play! It has to have mind blowing "Next Gen" graphics as well, thats what we droped $300, $400 and now even $500 on a xbox 360 for. Im sorry but its a what have you done for me lately world!

I'll gladly....as a matter of fact....I'll be RACING to my nearest game retailer to drop my hard earned $60 bucks on Halo 3 without a doubt! To each is own i suppose.

There are people that are expecting way to much from this game. You are bound for disappointment if you have high expectations. I enjoyed GOW because the graphics were AMAZING but.....I beat it and played it for a few days after that and lost interest. For me, the game play was lacking because I couldn't jump. Graphics, to me, don't make a game fun to play. Its like having good looks.....they make great first impressions, thats it. Its all about game play folks.

The fact the its title is Halo 3 is not enough for people to go right in and drop $60 of hard earned cash on a game that just has great game play! It has to have mind blowing "Next Gen" graphics as well, thats what we droped $300, $400 and now even $500 on a xbox 360 for. Im sorry but its a what have you done for me lately world!

I'd disagree. Halo is one of the few games that can and will sell on name alone. I won't argue that people will complain about it (just like they did 1 and 2), but it will sell by the boatload.

Going by the video, the game looks fine imo.

I think it looks great, I also think the internet has runined gaming for some people. You can't go anywhere without someone dragging something down. The game sucks, the elite sucks, your tv sucks, you audio sucks, etc...

I am still happy knowing that I play games for fun, and if Halo 3 is still fun then I will be playing the game.

I'll gladly....as a matter of fact....I'll be RACING to my nearest game retailer to drop my hard earned $60 bucks on Halo 3 without a doubt! To each is own i suppose.

There are people that are expecting way to much from this game. You are bound for disappointment if you have high expectations. I enjoyed GOW because the graphics were AMAZING but.....I beat it and played it for a few days after that and lost interest. For me, the game play was lacking because I couldn't jump. Graphics, to me, don't make a game fun to play. Its like having good looks.....they make great first impressions, thats it. Its all about game play folks.

The point being as Isiadme stated, it's the combo of the whole package. This is supposed to be a next gen game running on next gen hardware. I'll buy the game, but I expect the people developing this game to make this game look next gen and not just provide good warmed over game play.

Thanks AFH. Why dont people expect both?

my friends and i hosted original halo LAN parties every weekend for over a year: probably the most fun i've ever had gaming. halo 2 online was extremely feature rich w/ bungie.net and i'm sure as heck looking forward to halo 3 online. i agree it may not be the prettiest game out there - but no Halo ever has been. its always been about an experience which is greater than the sum of its parts.

i'm still expecting a great ride.

I think it looks ok, but I don't understand all the hoopla abou the graphics at this point of development. Did you guys see what Halo 1 looked like early in the beta videos? It looked like crap! Same thing with Halo 2. Bungie's not going to tip there hand with their first few videos that come out!

Thanks AFH. Why dont people expect both?

I guess b/c they just want the game served up to them no matter how it's served b/c it's Halo. I guess it's asking too much to expect that a developer actually strive really hard to make their game look next gen instead of resting on it's laurels. It's the old EA syndrome as I like to call it even though I wouldn't exactly call Bungie EA.

I think it looks ok, but I don't understand all the hoopla abou the graphics at this point of development. Did you guys see what Halo 1 looked like early in the beta videos? It looked like crap! Same thing with Halo 2. Bungie's not going to tip there hand with their first few videos that come out!

You're right. It still is in beta form but I guess it's just that this far into development the game still has a previous gen look. It's been in development as long or longer than GTA IV and even with the brief clips we've seen from GTA IV, everyone is commenting on how it doesn't look like the last gen GTA game. I would expect at this point in its development, Halo 3 would look a little different than past generations.

The fact the its title is Halo 3 is not enough for people to go right in and drop $60 of hard earned cash on a game that just has great game play! It has to have mind blowing "Next Gen" graphics as well, thats what we droped $300, $400 and now even $500 on a xbox 360 for. Im sorry but its a what have you done for me lately world!


You seem to be lost for the fact that Up until GOW was released Halo2 was the #1 live game for how many years? Even when the 360 was released. Obvously they are doing alot lately in this world. It will continue with H3 guranteed. We will see a New York and LA release party and in between like it was for Halo 2. Hell Bill Orielly will even admit this is huge.

You're right. It still is in beta form but I guess it's just that this far into development the game still has a previous gen look. It's been in development as long or longer than GTA IV and even with the brief clips we've seen from GTA IV, everyone is commenting on how it doesn't look like the last gen GTA game. I would expect at this point in its development, Halo 3 would look a little different than past generations.


They have already stated folks this isn't the final build. Simply wait. I am going off of Bungie's history vs assumption that this is what we will be playing come final shipment.

Just because Halo 3 will sell bajillions of copies doesn't mean that it is good. People love mediocrity. Look at any other area of entertainment (movies, music, books).

Well you know it's gonna trump Halo 2. They are shooting for great animations, smooth framerate, and amazing geometry. The high res texture polish will be there to some degree, but don't expect GOW in that respect. Halo 3 is going to be doing many more things on a technical level that GOW didn't do.

Gameplay is there #1 focus, and of course the game will look great!

Halo 3 is going to be doing many more things on a technical level that GOW didn't do.


Like...?

Like...?

deploying the "fart bubble" as my friend calls it, lol

Well I think for one having more than 4 on 4 like Gears will make sure you can't get the same level of detail per character in Halo 2, especially so if they plan on running it at 60fps (I freaking hope so, screw extra high res textures at the sacrifice of gameplay).

the ps3 will sell more than halo 3.....pff..

the ps3 will sell more than halo 3.....pff..


In the same time span...... or eventually? Don't answer that one :rolleyes:. Now we are down to game sales vs console sales.

Just because Halo 3 will sell bajillions of copies doesn't mean that it is good. People love mediocrity. Look at any other area of entertainment (movies, music, books).

You're right, I only buy mediocre games. Playing a great game would just be too much for me to handle.

Same goes for movies, music, books, and every other aspect of my life.

OR maybe your idea of "good" varies from everyone elses.

Am I retarded or does this damn look just like Halo 2?...I saw no difference....WEAK.

Am I retarded or does this damn look just like Halo 2?...I saw no difference....WEAK.

Well I don't want to say you are retarded, but there is a difference.

Plus this is Halo 3, obviously its going to look similar to to Halo 2, but the lighting, textures, shaders, models have all been improved.

Someone in the neogaf forum posted side-by-side pics of Halo 2 and Halo 3, and honestly, they were virtually identical. Basically the only difference I saw was that the Warthog wheels were made of more polys in Halo 3, and Halo 2 had better sand textures. Terrain and buildings were equally low-poly on each, all other models, textures, and lighting looked the same. Humorously, he was posting the pics to silence the "trolls" that said H3 looked like H2.

So I really hope these are pure placeholder graphics.

Funny, my impression was that the graphics blow away Halo2. The extra detail is there for sure.

There is just no way the beach in h2 looks the same as it does in h3. The textures are obviously better.

And that's just from a crappy youTube video I saw, and I could tell the textures are better.

Look at the sea wall. No comparison.

wow....bungie better have something much better than that when November rolls around that's all I have to say. i'm sure as hell not paying 60 bucks for halo 2 with a texture pack upgrade and a few new weapons and tweaks to maps.

wow....bungie better have something much better than that when November rolls around that's all I have to say. i'm sure as hell not paying 60 bucks for halo 2 with a texture pack upgrade and a few new weapons and tweaks to maps.

i bet you will :)

smart gamers will only pay $40, thanks liongames!

i bet you will :)

smart gamers will only pay $40, thanks liongames!

actually i bought the 360 for Gears, so H3 can wait

Why does this game look like a Xbox 1 game? Also, i absolutely adore playing gears online. Its why i bought my 360. From what ive seen of Halo 3, i have 0 interest in it.

the ps3 will sell more than halo 3.....pff..
Member suspended for trolling.

I let the first one slide... not this one.


Kyser

Thanks for the posting the video link.

I think it looks fantastic. I'm loving Zanzibar 2.0. Can't friggin' wait until November (or is it September?). :)

Well I don't want to say you are retarded, but there is a difference.

Plus this is Halo 3, obviously its going to look similar to to Halo 2, but the lighting, textures, shaders, models have all been improved.


I couldnt tell a whole lot of difference between H2/3 in the enivronments, I watched the good stream of it...I would rather wait and see more action to see what it looked like but I am still disappointed in seeing the walls/floors and stairs look so last gen..Even the trees look bad...I will give it the benefit of the doubt and say that it looks like that because its the beta but I dont think it will be improved that much. But I never played Halo for the visuals anyway...The control scheme and aiming was always spot and thats why I like it.

To all of you saying this looks like H2:
ITS A VIDEO ON YOU TUBE OF THE BETA VERSION, NOT THE REAL GAME. What don't you understand about the words unreleased/unfinished. Save your Sony fanboy comments until it ships this fall.

To all of you saying this looks like H2:
ITS A VIDEO ON YOU TUBE OF THE BETA VERSION, NOT THE REAL GAME. What don't you understand about the words unreleased/unfinished. Save your Sony fanboy comments until it ships this fall.

lol, ok :rolleyes:

if there's one constant in the MS world, it's that there will always be tons of bitching surrounding a Halo game.

lol, ok :rolleyes:

Is it not a beta, or is it already released? I dont understand. I guess you're sayinig this is the final game and is EXACTLY what we'll be seeing, right?

It's funny how people scramble to one extreme side or the other. It might be that GoW and others comming out later this year have spoiled us (or me), but i don't think anybody is being honest with themselves if they think the graphics in these video's are representative of a next gen title. MAYBE if the game was a launch title i'd see it, but it's two years into the 360's release, and the competition's level of graphical detail is simply on another scale from this. But that doesn't mean i'm not going to buy the game on opening day, and it certainly doesn't mean i won't enjoy playing it over and over again.

Ignoring the ****-tastic ending, Halo 2 was a dissapointment to so many people, some of the developers too, because it was little more than the best expansion pack ever made. Which is great, for an expansion pack, but a failure for a quality sequel. I have little doubt, though, that H3 will be more of the same simply because its on a new platform. I'm confident this installment will be what many dissappointed fans wanted Halo 2 to be.

i should also add that even though this video was released relatively close to the release of the game, i think the graphics will improve immensely.

I'll gladly....as a matter of fact....I'll be RACING to my nearest game retailer to drop my hard earned $60 bucks on Halo 3 without a doubt! To each is own i suppose.

There are people that are expecting way to much from this game. You are bound for disappointment if you have high expectations. I enjoyed GOW because the graphics were AMAZING but.....I beat it and played it for a few days after that and lost interest. For me, the game play was lacking because I couldn't jump. Graphics, to me, don't make a game fun to play. Its like having good looks.....they make great first impressions, thats it. Its all about game play folks.



Forgot about this. Anybody trashing GoW online play probably didn't play it enough. I remember all my friends raving about it, and when i got into it i literally had to force myself to play it because i just couldn't believe that it could suck like it was if everybody i knew loved it. Surprise, surprise, after a couple sessions of getting used to the VASTLY different style of play and the maps i became just as addicted.

It's just so different than almost any other FPS out that that it takes some time to adjust, but once you do you will see how it can be so damned fun. People are too used to jumping around, running with perfect visual fields, and mass numbers of people to kill that they (and i) just don't know what to do with a game that functions closer to a chess match than the typical run and gunner.

Please, give the online component a three or four solid sessions before anybody dismisses it. Many will change their opinion.

Is it not a beta, or is it already released? I dont understand. I guess you're sayinig this is the final game and is EXACTLY what we'll be seeing, right?

My post was in regards to the 2nd half

" Save your Sony fanboy comments until it ships this fall."

that was the part that I thought was funny, funny because it was silly unless you were being serious then well that would be even more amusing, lol

Please people, if someone doesn't likes the graphics in the video is not because he is a fanboy. I think the graphics look like xbox1, but I'm still going to buy the game the first day. We have seen in the past where games look so different from the beta, and other cases where they look the same. We'll see what happens here.

Since I have Crackdown, I'm anxiously waiting for May 16 to test the beta by myself.

You know when people can access the BETA via crackdown, there are going to be so many posts on how the BETA looks horrible, worse graphics in a game, not going to buy it, etc. Then there will be the same posts saying, best game every, looks great, etc.

Exactly! Just because people expect more doesnt make them fanboys. I realize that this is not the final build, im just saying I hope to see alot more improvements visually. The game play of the Halo series have been great but this is not the xbox, its time to expect more from the games we buy.

Actually, yeah, you are right. :)

Exactly! Just because people expect more doesnt make them fanboys. I realize that this is not the final build, im just saying I hope to see alot more improvements visually. The game play of the Halo series have been great but this is not the xbox, its time to expect more from the games we buy.

no, you are a Sony fanboy for not worshipping "teh graphics" :eek: ;)

Someone in the neogaf forum posted side-by-side pics of Halo 2 and Halo 3, and honestly, they were virtually identical. Basically the only difference I saw was that the Warthog wheels were made of more polys in Halo 3, and Halo 2 had better sand textures. Terrain and buildings were equally low-poly on each, all other models, textures, and lighting looked the same. Humorously, he was posting the pics to silence the "trolls" that said H3 looked like H2.

So I really hope these are pure placeholder graphics.


Link? I'd like to see..

Why does this game look like a Xbox 1 game? Also, i absolutely adore playing gears online. Its why i bought my 360. From what ive seen of Halo 3, i have 0 interest in it.

I don't think I'll give up gears to get into Halo. Maybe I'll change my mind once it comes out...

I don't have a problem with anyone not worshiping the graphics. Interpolating from what I saw in the crappy quality youTube video I expect the graphics to be somewhere between 'good' and 'great' - not really worship worthy.

However, I do think it is a fact that these graphics are a leap over H2. So anyone saying it's the 'same' or 'not much better', is just wrong and probably trolling.

Whether or not you are satisfied with these graphics or if they meet your expectations is an interesting topic, but keep in mind it is BETA and this is a leaked video of a test run. This video is not in any way intended to show the graphical capabilities of the game. When a developer releases a video of a game, very special care is put in to ensure that the video displays the game in it's best possible light - highlighting the strengths and hiding the weaknesses as much as possible. This video does none of that - and in my opinion still looks great.

Link? I'd like to see..

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=152291&page=31

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4452/halo3comp1ct8.jpg

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/6127/halo3comp3hg0.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/9422/halo3comp4yq4.jpg

Based on the above picture H3 looks better. But they took the pictures of H2 from the TV, and the screenshots from H3 are from the PC, so they should look better.

And it's expected to have better graphics than H2, what we are not sure yet is if it's going to look "next-gen" ala GoW.

I'll wait until I see it in motion.

I'll take Halo:CE graphics and textures if they get it to run at 60fps and have a smooth online experience with 16 people in a room.

I'm surprised nobody has noticed if theres any duel wielding in H3. I wonder if there will be or not.

Based on the above picture H3 looks better. But they took the pictures of H2 from the TV, and the screenshots from H3 are from the PC, so they should look better.

And it's expected to have better graphics than H2, what we are not sure yet is if it's going to look "next-gen" ala GoW.

I can't see how anyone expects H3 not to look drastically better than H2. H2 was on the original xbox platform, therefore probably 480p vs H3's 720p. We've all seen that the 360 is capable of impressive graphics (GOW). IMO graphically H3 won't look as good as GOW because of the size & scope of their maps, but people getting worked up over the early builds is a bit silly IMO.

I'm surprised nobody has noticed if theres any duel wielding in H3. I wonder if there will be or not.

I believe there still will be, but it won't be as much of a focus as it was in Halo2. Which is a good thing IMO.

I don't have a problem with anyone not worshiping the graphics. Interpolating from what I saw in the crappy quality youTube video I expect the graphics to be somewhere between 'good' and 'great' - not really worship worthy.

However, I do think it is a fact that these graphics are a leap over H2. So anyone saying it's the 'same' or 'not much better', is just wrong and probably trolling.

Whether or not you are satisfied with these graphics or if they meet your expectations is an interesting topic, but keep in mind it is BETA and this is a leaked video of a test run. This video is not in any way intended to show the graphical capabilities of the game. When a developer releases a video of a game, very special care is put in to ensure that the video displays the game in it's best possible light - highlighting the strengths and hiding the weaknesses as much as possible. This video does none of that - and in my opinion still looks great.

I agree 100%. ITS A CRAPPY VIDEO OF A BETA!!!

more comparision pics here:

http://gameplanets.blogspot.com/2007/04/halo-2-vs-halo-3-screenshot-comparison.html

I think most people posting in the forum could probably notice that the image capture is from 4:3 aspect ratio and the footage is from a standard definition television. Not to rag on those Luddites among us, but the visuals from this video are not only less than they would be on a television (due to the capturing software), but are also not anywhere near to the resolution one might expect from a 16:9, 720p-enabled television. Suffice it to say, you’re looking at an extremely muted piece of footage, so make sure your expectations are reasonable :)

From bungie:

"I shouldn't really comment on this stuff at all but it's bothering me. The game looks nothing like Halo 2. Some objects are the same in that they're the same shape and colors, but everything is so much more detailed. You can't see that because the video is a lo-res, poorly compressed leak of an unfinished product.

Something never intended for public consumption, a part of a test that has nothing to do with graphics so the build isn't made to look as good as it could. If Bungie were showing you a video they would have released something in hidef showcasing only the things that're actually finished. You should not be judging the state of the game based off of this. You cannot compare a video that Bungie created for you versus a video which Bungie never intended for you to see."

Anyway, the source.

http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=795774

I will be happy with nothing less than real humans for me to control on a live video feed @ 1080p.

From bungie:

"I shouldn't really comment on this stuff at all but it's bothering me. The game looks nothing like Halo 2. Some objects are the same in that they're the same shape and colors, but everything is so much more detailed. You can't see that because the video is a lo-res, poorly compressed leak of an unfinished product.

Something never intended for public consumption, a part of a test that has nothing to do with graphics so the build isn't made to look as good as it could. If Bungie were showing you a video they would have released something in hidef showcasing only the things that're actually finished. You should not be judging the state of the game based off of this. You cannot compare a video that Bungie created for you versus a video which Bungie never intended for you to see."

Anyway, the source.

http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=795774


Some folks are hard headed and blind. Even after seeing this post from Bungie they will still come in here saying but the graphics the graphics. :rolleyes:

I will be happy with nothing less than real humans for me to control on a live video feed @ 1080p.

We need Pitfighter in 1080p for the marketplace now!

Some folks are hard headed and blind. Even after seeing this post from Bungie they will still come in here saying but the graphics the graphics. :rolleyes:

That's because we saw crappy 640x480 cam footage of stuff like Gears of War months before release, and it looked incredible. The resolution and source didn't somehow magically make it look almost indistinguishable from an Xbox game.

If the actual game looks nothing like this footage, that's cool. But if we're supposed to believe that this footage itself is what makes the game look bad -- no, I don't think so.

There's no reason this game shouldn't look much better than GRAW, a game that came out only months after launch and also supported 16 players in wide-open environments. After all, it will have had almost two more years to develop, more support from MS, bigger budget, etc.

That's because we saw crappy 640x480 cam footage of stuff like Gears of War months before release, and it looked incredible. The resolution and source didn't somehow magically make it look almost indistinguishable from an Xbox game.

If the actual game looks nothing like this footage, that's cool. But if we're supposed to believe that this footage itself is what makes the game look bad -- no, I don't think so.

There's no reason this game shouldn't look much better than GRAW, a game that came out only months after launch and also supported 16 players in wide-open environments. After all, it will have had almost two more years to develop, more support from MS, bigger budget, etc.

Agreed for the most part. THe only thing is GRAW is slower paced and the framerate isn't 60fps. If this Halo 3 build is looking like this and only 30fps well then that isn't impressive at all.

Some folks are hard headed and blind. Even after seeing this post from Bungie they will still come in here saying but the graphics the graphics. :rolleyes:
Just a little heads up to you guys:

"Bungie.org is an independently owned and operated fansite and is not affiliated with Bungie Studios."

Regardless it makes sense

Regardless it makes sense

The people discussing their opinions on the graphics make sense as well. They only have what they have seen to judge so far. If bungie wants to release other pics they can.

They graphics may get a little better, a lot better or none at all or even worse (remembering the early hi-res Halo 2 pics released by bungie) just like many other games that have had early pics make it out to the web before final build. We'll find out eventually.

The problem is that EVERY picture released (including the ultra high res official screen grabs) has been extremely underwhelming. Yes, they look better than Halo 2. But they look evolutionary, rather than revolutionary.

having played and used beta's in the past, I'll reserve my judgement on the final build when I see it. But I advise Bungie to release a proper teaser video....really soon. That video footage doesn't do anything to make H3 look any better then a slightly improved h2. I'm not seeing 360 next gen anything in that video, and if it didn't have halo 3 posted all over it, I would have though it was just a map pack for h2.
After getting burned by the half assed campaign in h2 and horrible ending, not to mention entire level's ripped out of the game ( speculated by some due to MS's time contraints) I for one will not be lining up to see Halo3, and i promise you that. I was never impressed by h2's online lke most people were probably because I did most of it on a PC many years before anyone heard of h1 yet alone h2.

...bottom line, so far not impressed. But if the 1080p/60 fps rumor requirement for h3 is true, now I see how they can pull it off, crap textures, no detail etc.

Im not concerned about the graphics on this game at all. I really do think they will come together and the game will look terrific (in fact I bet it already does, we're just being fooled by poor resolution photos). Maybe not as good as Gears, but it will be beautiful. The part I am getting annoyed with, was after viewing this video and seeing a remake of Zanzibar, Im convinced the game will have more wasted space with remake maps from Halo2 and/or Halo CE. For as long as it takes to develop these, there had either be 20+ maps or there better be several brand new, amazing maps that make it worth having some of the remakes filling up space.

maps? I predict lots and lots of DLC.....cha ching $$$$$

Just want to point out, when halo1 came out, it was the best looking shooter on any console. Been playing and enjoying bungie shooters since Marathon, which was also the best looking shooter of the day.

Havent we learned by now to not base anything on pre-release videos... motorstorm, mgs4 anyone?

Have faith brothers. H3 will play well AND look fantastic.

maps? I predict lots and lots of DLC.....cha ching $$$$$
dont forget vehicles and weapons. Im sure they will be keeping quite a bit out just to sell later.

Speaking of Vehicles, while on the ATV (which I liked) dude never shot anything or took either hands off. wonder if its a two person vehicles...

I cant imagine a person on AVSforum who will not be picking this up as soon as it is available. Even if they are pressing the reply button right now saying how much they DONT care about Halo3.
I can def say I wont be racing day 1 and prob not til day 1 of next yr... yet I will be playin as most friends will be in the midnight line.

Speaking of Vehicles, while on the ATV (which I liked) dude never shot anything or took either hands off. wonder if its a two person vehicles...

Yes it is two person, and the person on the back can shoot, but don't think the driver can.

I finally saw the video and I am excited. I don’t really care if it looks like Gears of War because I stopped playing GOW like a week after I got it. Yea it looked awesome but it wasn’t a bad ass game. I STILL play Halo 2 and when I get home I am going to play it for a few hours and tomorrow I will play it again. If you are a graphics whore why don’t you go play Killzone, that trailer looked awesome and it wasn’t even in development yet so it probably looks more real than real life.

Also, if you don’t like it DON’T BUY IT simple as that. Why does someone who isn’t going to buy the game feel the need to bitch about it? I mean if you are not going to buy it why take the time to come one here and tell the world that you are not going to buy it?

I will be playing HALO 3 in the beta and I will be playing HALO 3 the first day it comes out. Anyone who wants to play look me up my GT is:

Brianbat420

Happy (VERY HAPPY) Killing in the beta and beyond

it doesnt look like its pushing the 360 hardware to the limit!

Can't other things besides grapics push a computer to its limits?

I swear, the graphics whining has gotten almost comical now. I am truly amazed at how ignorant/emotional people are being.

I do remember it being the same way as Halo 2 neared as well.

Seriously, that comparison contained some of the worst/lowest resolution screenshots ever, let alone the fact that everyone is assuming that the game picture being played is somehow representative of the final product.

I personally could care less if the game doesnt look as good as Gears of War. Its a different game. It will look good in its own way.

Those complaining about the graphics should see this thread. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=840474)

Honestly, none of you have seen a full size screenshot of the actual beta, let alone the finished product. Bungie still has 5+ months to improve the graphics. Early on, GoW looked great but ran extremely slow. Bungie just decided to optimize for performance first and graphics later.

Can't other things besides grapics push a computer to its limits?


Physics..

Don't know if this has already been squashed. From Bungie.net


http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12392


Then there was the “secret email from the Argo” which folks had mistaken for some sort of Bungie or Halo 3 viral campaign, or ARG. I don’t know what it really is, beyond fan-fic, but it’s not from us. These ARG rumors are going to get really common between now and the fall, so by all means enjoy them, but don’t assume they have anything to do with Bungie or Halo 3.

The strangest rumor of all was that MS was “forcing” Bungie to make Halo 3 60 fps at 1080p. Um, it was one thing to see that on a forum, but it was strange to see it on regular news site.

1080p at 60 fps is awesome for fighting games and barely a stretch for Live Arcade games. But if you want epic battles, dozens of bad guys, huge vistas and colossal structures, with advanced AI, HDR lighting and explosive physics, then you’re not getting those at 1080p at 60fps. Actually, that’s not entirely accurate – Halo 3 will display at 1080p through the Xbox Elite with its scaler and HDMI port, but not natively. We’ve seen it do just that and it looks utterly lovely. So if you have a 1080p TV, enjoy it yourself in a few weeks. Most people, and I mean the VAST majority of people don’t have a 1080p TV, so it would be foolish to sacrifice even a single feature for a bullet point number on the back of a box.

Don't know if this has already been squashed. From Bungie.net


http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12392


Then there was the “secret email from the Argo” which folks had mistaken for some sort of Bungie or Halo 3 viral campaign, or ARG. I don’t know what it really is, beyond fan-fic, but it’s not from us. These ARG rumors are going to get really common between now and the fall, so by all means enjoy them, but don’t assume they have anything to do with Bungie or Halo 3.

The strangest rumor of all was that MS was “forcing” Bungie to make Halo 3 60 fps at 1080p. Um, it was one thing to see that on a forum, but it was strange to see it on regular news site.

1080p at 60 fps is awesome for fighting games and barely a stretch for Live Arcade games. But if you want epic battles, dozens of bad guys, huge vistas and colossal structures, with advanced AI, HDR lighting and explosive physics, then you’re not getting those at 1080p at 60fps. Actually, that’s not entirely accurate – Halo 3 will display at 1080p through the Xbox Elite with its scaler and HDMI port, but not natively. We’ve seen it do just that and it looks utterly lovely. So if you have a 1080p TV, enjoy it yourself in a few weeks. Most people, and I mean the VAST majority of people don’t have a 1080p TV, so it would be foolish to sacrifice even a single feature for a bullet point number on the back of a box.
Thanks for posting this. I'm glad Bungie knows what they're doing.

The only thing that surprises me from this video is that people actually believed H3 was going to look markedly better than H2. C'mon guys. It doesn't take a genius to know that this is probably a re-worked version of the H2 engine. I mean how much better did you guys think it was going to look? Take Graw 2 for example, which uses a re-worked GR2 engine for its multiplayer. Sure they added some nice textures and lighting with the 360 but fundamentaly GRAW2 multiplayer looks like GR2 on steroids. Same with H3. I mean there is only so much you can do with a re-worked engine as opposed to one built from the ground up for 360.
In addition, I don't think you could ever approach Gears of War level graphics with the halo series without compromising the games visual style. I mean, the halo series uses alot of clean lines in the building architecture. There is only so much you can do to make a smooth wall look better. That being said, the gameplay looks like it's gotten a shot in the arm since H2. Lots of new elements (ie. bubble shield), no spawining with duel-weilding weapons. Should make the game feel more like Halo CE (which for me is a good thing). Guess we'll just have to wait until May to judge.

Peace out!

CC

Looks like Halo 2....where the heck are the textures?

Keep in mind this is just a beta guys, I am sure the finished product will looked markedly better. Why add all the textures and HDR, etc just for a beta?

will it play better than the older halo's or......... :rolleyes:

Yup most def it will be worth a look.

only a few more days!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the character models definately are alpha that is a fact. The fact is the code and everything else except for the graphics is about finalized. You guys obviously don't think their gonna how you what it REALLY can look like in a BETA their freely letting everyone play right? Their saving the eye candy for the final.

I like the whistling....

the character models definately are alpha that is a fact. The fact is the code and everything else except for the graphics is about finalized. You guys obviously don't think their gonna how you what it REALLY can look like in a BETA their freely letting everyone play right? Their saving the eye candy for the final.

You know you would think this statement would be common sense but people still dont get it. I guess they think the game is DONE 6 months prior to release and bungie just sits around playing ping pong until it is officaly released

You know you would think this statement would be common sense but people still dont get it. I guess they think the game is DONE 6 months prior to release and bungie just sits around playing ping pong until it is officaly released
The game won't be complete 6 months AFTER release :). I agree the developers has got to be in polishing mode now. Balancing game play, performance tweaking, and graphical enhancements.

Man, as we get closer to beta I'm really starting to get excited.

I am pumped for H3 man... For Halo 1 and Halo 2 i was still in school we just played for hours a day for months. I mean honestly, we had 4 xboxes two cable modems and 4 TV's... its was insane.... the amount of people that would come over and the amound of time that was spent playing.

I just wish I could waste that amount of time again on Halo 3. I am thinking about taking a few days when it comes out so I can get through the campaign mode and then really get down with the multiplayer. Gotta get my game back....

On the flip side of that coin at 6 months prior to release it isn't as if Bungie is going to completely redo every single texture in the game. I see the last 6 months as refinement and testing.

I think what got everyone spun up is the difference in visual quality between the Halo 3 trailers and what has been "leaked". Since Bungie themselves haven't given anything other than trailers people are going to critique every single screenshot that comes out no matter where it comes from. I've already paid for my copy of Halo 3, so I've got my fingers crossed that it will live up to the hype that Bungie has created.

I am pumped for H3 man... For Halo 1 and Halo 2 i was still in school we just played for hours a day for months. I mean honestly, we had 4 xboxes two cable modems and 4 TV's... its was insane.... the amount of people that would come over and the amound of time that was spent playing.

I just wish I could waste that amount of time again on Halo 3. I am thinking about taking a few days when it comes out so I can get through the campaign mode and then really get down with the multiplayer. Gotta get my game back....

Those were the good old days for me too, even though I've never owned an xbox or 360. I may eventually get a 360 though sometime this year.