View Full Version : Happy Feet vs Chicken Little...Which has better PQ?


BBS G35
04-29-07, 03:34 AM
Which movie do you think has better PQ? Chicken Little or Happy Feet?

Icemage
04-29-07, 11:00 AM
Happy Feet is a better movie overall (at least up until the last 15 minutes), but Chicken Little looks better. Similar amounts of 3D pop, but CL is crisp in every single scene, while HF is soft in many scenes, especially in the backgrounds.

Vote goes to Chicken Little.

Kram Sacul
04-29-07, 11:07 AM
Chicken Little also is full height 1.78:1 compared to Happy Feet's letterboxed scope image. Just saying.

Scorxpion
04-29-07, 01:07 PM
Chicken Little is the best title thorugh computer generated graphics in HD

BTBuck1
04-29-07, 01:20 PM
Neither,

I think Open Season pwns all animated films to date on HD optical formats

But if I had to choose, I'd say they are a draw.

Wet1
04-30-07, 08:03 AM
Happy Feet is a better movie overall (at least up until the last 15 minutes), but Chicken Little looks better. Similar amounts of 3D pop, but CL is crisp in every single scene, while HF is soft in many scenes, especially in the backgrounds.

Vote goes to Chicken Little.
I have to agree.

I wonder how many of the people who voted for HF have even seen CL? :confused:




EDIT: I just realized CL isn't available on HD-DVD... which suggests the voting is quite possibly biased. Damn sour grapes! :D

BBS G35
04-30-07, 01:58 PM
I have to agree.

I wonder how many of the people who voted for HF have even seen CL? :confused:




EDIT: I just realized CL isn't available on HD-DVD... which suggests the voting is quite possibly biased. Damn sour grapes! :D

http://www.sounds-of-schils.com/music/Happy_Feet.jpg

Nah, HF just looks better.

Jiffylush
04-30-07, 02:00 PM
EDIT: I just realized CL isn't available on HD-DVD... which suggests the voting is quite possibly biased. Damn sour grapes! :D

We have a winner!

Now compare the people who voted that Happyfeet looked better than Chicken Little and complained about the PQ and graphical issues of Happyfeet.

SyHD
04-30-07, 02:23 PM
This is off topic but I have a feeling Ratatouille will best them all once its out. :D

plazman
04-30-07, 02:33 PM
This poll can be biased either way. BD only owners are more likely to vote for CL.

SyHD
04-30-07, 02:52 PM
We are talking about animations here. The whole debate comes down to not the video transfer but what tools and how the animation was rendered by studios. It also depends on the craftsmanship of the modelers and animators. This is why I can't wait until some Pixar titles start coming on Blu-ray.

Going from digital to digital is pretty straight forward. :D

BBS G35
04-30-07, 03:06 PM
We have a winner!

Now compare the people who voted that Happyfeet looked better than Chicken Little and complained about the PQ and graphical issues of Happyfeet.

But isn't this poll (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=834665) biased too. Since the choices are, King Kong, Hulk, Crank, and Other.

The above poll means HD-DVD owners would be split between Hulk, and King Kong, while BD owners would be voting for Crank, and Crank only. Yet Hulk has 4 times as many votes as Crank, and Hulk only has 2 less votes then Crank.

Jiffylush
04-30-07, 05:06 PM
This poll can be biased either way. BD only owners are more likely to vote for CL.

BD owners are more likely to have actually seen both of these movies in highdef so woudn't their decision be the only valid one?

How about a show of hands?

Did anyone who voted for Happy Feet actually see both movies in high definition?

Jiffylush
04-30-07, 05:07 PM
But isn't this poll (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=834665) biased too. Since the choices are, King Kong, Hulk, Crank, and Other.

The above poll means HD-DVD owners would be split between Hulk, and King Kong, while BD owners would be voting for Crank, and Crank only. Yet Hulk has 4 times as many votes as Crank, and Hulk only has 2 less votes then Crank.

There were complaints about its bias right?

Capek
04-30-07, 05:25 PM
This poll can be biased either way. BD only owners are more likely to vote for CL.
Hey plazman, clean out your pm box I'm trying to send you a message. :D

HD-DVDwonder
04-30-07, 06:23 PM
haven't seen CL but HF comes off as a tad soft in a few short and negligible scenes. I thought Ant Bully trumped HF; Oh, and there's that countouring that's quite distracting in the underwater scenes.

On a side note, the human faces looked surprisingly soft in HF

AnthonyP
04-30-07, 09:53 PM
This poll can be biased either way. BD only owners are more likely to vote for CL.

Why? because it looks better? that is what he wants to find out :)

plazman
04-30-07, 09:54 PM
Hey plazman, clean out your pm box I'm trying to send you a message. :D

OK. It gets filled up fast (from both sides :))

paintit77
04-30-07, 11:56 PM
Chicken Little! It was a two hit fight. CL hit Happy Feat, then Happy Feet hit the ground!

Neo1965
05-01-07, 04:45 PM
I've seen both, and Chicken Little clearly has much cleaner details. But in fairness, Chicken Little is also much easier to encode since it did not have the blizzard or underwater scenes that Happy Feet has.

In terms of looking for pristine encoding as an end product, on technicality of the encoding, I would be surprised if the quantization in Chicken Little is anywhere close to Happy Feet.

I'm surprised so many people have watched both movies and voted with your conscience. ;)

ottscay
05-01-07, 05:11 PM
I didn't vote since I haven't seen CL. Happy Feet certainly looks fantastic, but I would expect CL to be easier to encode to look really spectacular. I'm sure it sounded better, sinc there was no PCM or lossless track on Happy Feet :(

BBS G35
05-01-07, 07:55 PM
I didn't vote since I haven't seen CL. Happy Feet certainly looks fantastic, but I would expect CL to be easier to encode to look really spectacular. I'm sure it sounded better, sinc there was no PCM or lossless track on Happy Feet :(

Happy Feet has TrueHD. It received a 5 out of 5 in Audio and Video from Highdefdigest. (both better score's then CL)

Icemage
05-01-07, 08:43 PM
Happy Feet has TrueHD. It received a 5 out of 5 in Audio and Video from Highdefdigest. (both better score's then CL)
Happy Feet on Blu-ray is DD 5.1 only (no PCM *shakes fist at Warner*).

I own both titles on Blu-ray, and Chicken Little is clearly the crisper of the two.

ottscay
05-02-07, 12:52 PM
Happy Feet has TrueHD. It received a 5 out of 5 in Audio and Video from Highdefdigest. (both better score's then CL)

Happy Feet does NOT have TrueHD on BD, a clear failure of the studio. Hence, there can be little doubt that for most viewers the audio was inferior (since sales have presumably been higher on the BD version).

Shame on Warner.

Rob Tomlin
05-02-07, 06:44 PM
I have to agree.

I wonder how many of the people who voted for HF have even seen CL? :confused:




EDIT: I just realized CL isn't available on HD-DVD... which suggests the voting is quite possibly biased. Damn sour grapes! :D

I agree 100%.

I own both titles. Chicken Little has better PQ.

In my opinion, of course!

BBS G35
05-02-07, 11:02 PM
I own, Happy Feet, on HD-DVD, and Chicken Little on BD. I think Happy Feet looks better.

plazman
05-02-07, 11:40 PM
BD owners are more likely to have actually seen both of these movies in highdef so woudn't their decision be the only valid one?

How about a show of hands?

Did anyone who voted for Happy Feet actually see both movies in high definition?

Since this is a public poll it is easy to which way folks like beatboy, AnthonyP, Brianmonkey etc. voted. Voting for CL allows a BD supporter to say that they better looking movie is exclusive to their chosen format.....so none of the most vocal BD supporters (at least the names that jump out at me) voted for HF - so this poll way well be partisan.

Jiffylush
05-03-07, 09:34 AM
Since this is a public poll it is easy to which way folks like beatboy, AnthonyP, Brianmonkey etc. voted. Voting for CL allows a BD supporter to say that they better looking movie is exclusive to their chosen format.....so none of the most vocal BD supporters (at least the names that jump out at me) voted for HF - so this poll way well be partisan.

I see one person (maybe two) who claims to own both that voted for Happy Feet, out of 40+

Do you honestly think the major bias in this poll is BD supporters proping up an exclusive?

plazman
05-03-07, 09:36 AM
Aboslutely! Just as BD supporters are much more likely to be critical of WB PQ than Fox or Sony or Disney or LG.

However, I can see HD supporters voting for HF here as well.

In either case, I made my first assumption of which way the folks would vote without even looking at the results and when I looked at it, it was obvious that the most voval BD supporters would vote for an exclusive title.

Jiffylush
05-03-07, 09:38 AM
Aboslutely!

Wow, I like a lot of your posts because I thought you were an open minded HD DVD supporter who just liked to stir the pot, but if you believe that then you need to put down the kool-aid.

plazman
05-03-07, 09:40 AM
I simply point out the truth. If that hurst for you, it's your problem - as I see it :)

Jiffylush
05-03-07, 09:55 AM
I simply point out the truth. If that hurst for you, it's your problem - as I see it :)

How many of the Happy Feet voters would you guess have seen both movies in any high def format?

Now make a guess about the CL voters.

BBS G35
05-03-07, 10:16 AM
why is it so hard to believe someone would vote HF over CL? At highdefdigest.com HF got a 5 out of 5, CL got a 4 out of 5. The voters here simply seem to agree with highdefdigest

Jiffylush
05-03-07, 10:53 AM
why is it so hard to believe someone would vote HF over CL? At highdefdigest.com HF got a 5 out of 5, CL got a 4 out of 5. The voters here simply seem to agree with highdefdigest

So far it seems that you are one of the few that have seen both and voted for HF.

On simple PQ I think CL looks better, seems that many others do as well when you look at the tier thread.

Any comment on the graphical problems that some have reported with Happy Feet?

Edit: It isn't hard to believe that someone would vote for one over the other, but it is hard to believe that a BD owner who saw both films is more biased than an HD DVD supporter who only saw one.

briankmonkey
05-03-07, 12:00 PM
Since this is a public poll it is easy to which way folks like beatboy, AnthonyP, Brianmonkey etc. voted. Voting for CL allows a BD supporter to say that they better looking movie is exclusive to their chosen format.....so none of the most vocal BD supporters (at least the names that jump out at me) voted for HF - so this poll way well be partisan.

My vote has nothing to do with HD-DVD, of course your always trying to star flame wars (that is the simple truth.) and make everything about HD-DVD versus blu-ray :rolleyes:

I've viewed them both on blu-ray on the same display as well having viewed segments of the HD-DVD version at Fry's. CL simply looked better, had more pop, etc. Both looked great and most people would be happy with the PQ on both.

WayneL
05-03-07, 12:42 PM
A simple examination of the votes show the vocal BD format supporters are much more frequent voters in the format of their choice. Therefore, it could be biased.

I like bkm's "Both looked great and most people would be happy with the PQ on both. "

plazman
05-03-07, 12:54 PM
The most vocal BD supporters favor CL. Others, favor HF. That's what this poll shows. The same people who only see artifacts in WB titles are the folks I am referring to here ;)

This is an open poll. The evidence is staring you in the face....if you care to look :)

briankmonkey
05-03-07, 12:59 PM
Thanks WayneL. Both are close enough that I wouldn't rate one at a whole tier higher than the other anyways. Some movies look better on HD-DVD, some on Blu-ray, this isn't anything new.

The most vocal BD supporters favor CL. Others, favor HF. That's what this poll shows. The same people who only see artifacts in WB titles are the folks I am referring to here ;)

This is an open poll. The evidence is staring you in the face....if you care to look :)


Well then you are simply wrong yet again as you referred to me as that isn't accurate of my experiences. :rolleyes: I see artifacts and banding on both movies but I see that in almost every CG movie.

Perhaps BD supporters have actually viewed both Blu-ray movies where as HD-DVD fans have only view the movie that is on their format. Gee wouldn't that be shocking :eek: