After finally getting to see game videos of Mlb 07 the show, I hate to say but it looks extremely dissapointing. It looks like the PS2 version, but at a hd resolution, does not look like it would be a PS3 game. I cant belive it, with the delays this title went through, looks like the extra time didnt help any, but who knows PS3 games are known for delays so maybe this title will be delayed again and maybe get in time for the World Series and maybe a slight increase in graphics. :mad:
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/mlb07theshow/media.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=tabs&tag=tabs;videos

So check out MLB2k7. The GFX are much better (but still need some work), and the game plays pretty well in my view.

So check out MLB2k7. The GFX are much better (but still need some work), and the game plays pretty well in my view.

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Ahhhh, no. The GFX are junk and jaggies are everywhere. The fans and field look jaggy and just flat out like a PS2 game. What makes this game pretty is their player models and that's it. The blowing jersey's and real (but lifeless) looking faces.

The game play is just a piece of shyt! If you hit the ball 95% of the time it's a HR. Jose Reyes comes to bat and you think you want a base hit down the line, well yeah he hit's it down the line....... 450 ft. later lol.

GFX are not everything! Wait until the show is out, at least you will be dealing with a game that has next gen fields and gameplay with better (even though not as much as we hoped) player models in HD lol.

I am not trying to crush your opinion tyrant but I would have to strongly disagree. To each their own.

Yeah, I have to agree, while 2K7 looks very nice, the gamplay, lack of camera options, and home run derby batting ruins it for me. As long as the Show looks solid and plays great, I'll be happy.

Looks fun to me. Looking forward to trying it out soon.

I have to agree, I'll stick with the MLB07 for the PS2 for now over MLB2k7 for PS3. Graphics aren't everything and will only take you so far, after that if gameplay sucks then why even bother.

I have MLB 2K7 for the 360 and absolutely love it. You can tweak the difficulty to a level where you can have realistic games. I'm at all-star break right now, and A-Rod leads the Majors in home runs with 32. The stats do not go overboard and resemble real life numbers. I also lost 34 games so far with the Yankees.

After playing the PS3 demo, however, the slow down is horrible for this version. Furthermore, the visuals are much better on the 360 version in my opinion. If you have a 360, get that version without hesitation.

I have MLB 2K7 for the 360 and absolutely love it. You can tweak the difficulty to a level where you can have realistic games. I'm at all-star break right now, and A-Rod leads the Majors in home runs with 32. The stats do not go overboard and resemble real life numbers. I also lost 34 games so far with the Yankees.

After playing the PS3 demo, however, the slow down is horrible for this version. Furthermore, the visuals are much better on the 360 version in my opinion. If you have a 360, get that version without hesitation.

I play 95% of the time online so adjusting sliders is not what I need. I need a realistic game with decent graphics. I would love to have both great graphics and gameplay but EA's MVP is no longer available lol. So I have to eat what they feed me sadly.

Yes the 360 version is better then the PS3's, but just slightly better field textures and frame rate still makes it a half assed garbage HR derby game. I at least love that I have an option of 2 baseball games instead of 1. 2k needs to get their shyt together and then we will see but for now 07 may not be as pretty (only in some area's like blowing jerseys) but their game play is still light years ahead of 2k's.

MVP 2005 will not be touched for a few years at the very least.

I play 95% of the time online so adjusting sliders is not what I need. I need a realistic game with decent graphics. I would love to have both great graphics and gameplay but EA's MVP is no longer available lol. So I have to eat what they feed me sadly.

Yes the 360 version is better then the PS3's, but just slightly better field textures and frame rate still makes it a half assed garbage HR derby game. I at least love that I have an option of 2 baseball games instead of 1. 2k needs to get their shyt together and then we will see but for now 07 may not be as pretty (only in some area's like blowing jerseys) but their game play is still light years ahead of 2k's.

MVP 2005 will not be touched for a few years at the very least.
Thanks for the rant, sparky. :D

Thanks for the rant, sparky. :D

I apologize if I offended you or your game but I just disagree bro sorry. If you enjoy 2k then continue to play their product and enjoy.

Like I said, to each their own.

I agree I totally miss the MVP series, how could EA let their license go?

I apologize if I offended you or your game but I just disagree bro sorry. If you enjoy 2k then continue to play their product and enjoy.

Like I said, to each their own.
No, you didn't offend me in anyway. It's just that your opinions seemed rather strong and overbearing. My comment was probably offensive, but what I meant is that your views are pretty extreme and very animated.

I agree that there are problems with MLB 2K7, especially with the PS3 version, but the visuals of the stadiums, player animations and player models are very impressive and seem to look a lot better than what MLB 07 offers. I also think that people blow the pitfalls of MLB 2K7's gameplay way out of proportion. I've played my share of baseball games in the past (I loved the High Heat series when it was good and on the PC) and am an avid baseball fan, and MLB 2K7 does deliver from a gameplay standpoint in my opinion.

Got your back man. I have both the 360 and PS3 and the reviews on graphic clarity and smoothness were noticeably better on the 360. Went that route, love the game, have no idea what the gameplay issues are with some.
Can't imagine giving up the swing stick for just pushing a button on the show either.

I have MLB 2K7 for the 360 and absolutely love it. You can tweak the difficulty to a level where you can have realistic games. I'm at all-star break right now, and A-Rod leads the Majors in home runs with 32. The stats do not go overboard and resemble real life numbers. I also lost 34 games so far with the Yankees.

After playing the PS3 demo, however, the slow down is horrible for this version. Furthermore, the visuals are much better on the 360 version in my opinion. If you have a 360, get that version without hesitation.

Ditto, single player you can tweak and get a good game by setting the difficulty higher and online you just need to play (and pitch) well, much like a real game. If you just keep lobbing fastballs down the center, like the AI does in easy mode, of course you'll hit 20 HR/game!

GFX could be much better, but the only slowdown i've seen is in replays, and ingame cut scenes. There is no slowdown when you're actually playing the game. I think people tend to notice it more because of the huge amount of cutscenes and replays in this title.

Players are awesome, and the fields are very detailed. The crowd sucks, but do you play the game to watch them, or have a good ball game?

The worse GFX offenders are a depth of field blur that is used to hide the bad crowd, but it's glitchy and you frequently see popup LOD. Also the 3d skybox outside the park needs some work.

All in all pretty good for a simple, fast 360 port! Most of the hickups are inherent to all 360 ports so far.

Extreme is the only way I give my unbiased and fair reviews lol. I like online and online in 2k7 means 7 HR's a game, so thats pretty much the end of it for me. The gameplay was something I adjusted to and was very solid at but there were still a few issues beyond my control in the field.

Overall I wish MVP were still around, but being that they are not then I will have to give MLB a look.

I agree I totally miss the MVP series, how could EA let their license go?

I think they weren't willing to get into bed with Selig, I don't blame them either. YUCK. Who knows what kind of KY Jelly Selig was using on Sony and ESPN. :D

Got your back man. I have both the 360 and PS3 and the reviews on graphic clarity and smoothness were noticeably better on the 360. Went that route, love the game, have no idea what the gameplay issues are with some.
Can't imagine giving up the swing stick for just pushing a button on the show either.

Lol, the 2k swing stick is a corny gimmick. It is no where near the perfection of MVP's. I would much rather hit X and push a ball down and away to opposite field then just pull back and pull a ball on the outer part of the dish for a 450 ft. HR lol. These are the things 2k neglects paying much attention to. You would think they would put most of their effort toward the things that matter the most (Pitching, Batting and fielding), but no........ we want, no we need blowing jerseys and pre game cuts of the jaggy PS2 looking fans going to their seats and inside the jaggy ballpark lol :rolleyes:.

Yeah the 360's version is better, but not by much (better grass texture and slightly less frame rate problems).

Sorry it is just facts bro. They wanted the great GFX and forgot about the gameplay bugs that have plagued them in previous versions. Funny thing is that their GFX are above average, not great. Player models good, not great. Field and fans look like PS2.

This may look like a rant but I am telling everyone the truth about what I see. There's a demo they can see it for themselves. Lol, the demo is strangely enough (I.M.O.) slightly BETTER looking with less lag and jaggies then the retail game, but then maybe I am losing my mind lol.

Lol, the 2k swing stick is a corny gimmick. It is no where near the perfection of MVP's. I would much rather hit X and push a ball down and away to opposite field then just pull back and pull a ball on the outer part of the dish for a 450 ft. HR lol. These are the things 2k neglects paying much attention to. You would think they would put most of their effort toward the things that matter the most (Pitching, Batting and fielding), but no........ we want, no we need blowing jerseys and pre game cuts of the jaggy PS2 looking fans going to their seats and inside the jaggy ballpark lol :rolleyes:.

As was noted multiple times above, adjusting the sliders fixes these issues. If you don't want to do that, it's your choice to have to problems. The gameplay is far and away better than MVP 05. Fielding actually seems realistic. All the pitching interfaces represent different ways to present pitching much more realistically than MVP 05's interface, which was in itself much better than previous games.

Also, the only time you'll really have problems with giving up homers is if you can't pitch very well. The pitching interface makes it much easier to give up fat pitches, especially if you leave your pitcher in too long, but I suppose realism is not what some want.

As was noted multiple times above, adjusting the sliders fixes these issues. If you don't want to do that, it's your choice to have to problems. The gameplay is far and away better than MVP 05. Fielding actually seems realistic. All the pitching interfaces represent different ways to present pitching much more realistically than MVP 05's interface, which was in itself much better than previous games.

Also, the only time you'll really have problems with giving up homers is if you can't pitch very well. The pitching interface makes it much easier to give up fat pitches, especially if you leave your pitcher in too long, but I suppose realism is not what some want.

Fielding actually seems realistic? There's no interactivity there, you just throw the ball to the base. I liked being able to control how hard I'm throwing it to the base. Also the DPs in 2k7 are way too easy to do.

As far as pitching. My frustrations have made me just put down the game. I adjust the sliders to no avail. I throw a perfect pitch right where the catcher wants it. It goes out. I miss badly on a curveball up in the zone, they swing and miss badly. It's absolutely stupid and completely unrealistic, IMO.

Glad I didn't pay any money for it.

Fielding actually seems realistic? There's no interactivity there, you just throw the ball to the base. I liked being able to control how hard I'm throwing it to the base. Also the DPs in 2k7 are way too easy to do.

As far as pitching. My frustrations have made me just put down the game. I adjust the sliders to no avail. I throw a perfect pitch right where the catcher wants it. It goes out. I miss badly on a curveball up in the zone, they swing and miss badly. It's absolutely stupid and completely unrealistic, IMO.

Glad I didn't pay any money for it.

Throw power for fielding is controlled with the triggers. I was more talking about actually fielding the ball, where players reach or do not reach balls realistically. With sliders adjusted appropriately, of course. The default sliders (and the ridiculous boost) allow outfielders to get to pretty much anything.

As to your pitching woes, you can't always rely on the catcher's calls. Have you never seen a pitcher shake off a catcher's call in a real baseball game? You need to account for the batter and situation when deciding what you're going to throw and where in the zone it should go. The catchers calling for pitches in this game is a neat feature, but the AI for it isn't that good at it, so you end up with lots of poor calls. As for throwing a bad curveball up, all the decent sliders I've seen have drastically increased the AI take settings, which has pretty much fixed the AI swinging at bad pitches for me and many others.

I'm sorry I just don't agree that it's realistic that three different players in the same game can take a 98 mph fastball spotted perfectly on the outside corner and PULL it for a home run.

I'm sorry I just don't agree that it's realistic that three different players in the same game can take a 98 mph fastball spotted perfectly on the outside corner and PULL it for a home run.

On the default settings, I don't find that hard to believe at all. With a decent set of sliders, I would also find it hard to believe that happened.

On the default settings, I don't find that hard to believe at all. With a decent set of sliders, I would also find it hard to believe that happened.
Exactly. On the difficulty settings I have, the best my team can usually do with a 98 mph pitch low and away is hit it opposite field for a base hit. People seem to be too lazy to take the time to adjust the difficulty. They would rather complain instead, but hey, I guess that's what we Americans like to do most.

One problem is if you adjust the sliders, it makes the game "Custom" difficulty and most achievements are disabled. I know achievements aren't everything, but that's just lame. And if you use the defaults you get 7+ homers per team. How this got past testing, along with NO fielding camera options, is unreal. Sure does look nice though.

Exactly. On the difficulty settings I have, the best my team can usually do with a 98 mph pitch low and away is hit it opposite field for a base hit. People seem to be too lazy to take the time to adjust the difficulty. They would rather complain instead, but hey, I guess that's what we Americans like to do most.

Again I hardly play offline so these v3.0 sliders or whatever are of little use to me. In my opinion no slider changes the way this game actually plays. How can a slider change the very, very poor batting engine they have? How about the extremely Loose fielding? No, there is not a slider for that. Thats just how the game was made.

It's just unbelievable that they would make a game soooooo bad out of the box.

MVP 2005 killed this game and that is sad because that was 2 years and a console ago.

Again I hardly play offline so these v3.0 sliders or whatever are of little use to me. In my opinion no slider changes the way this game actually plays. How can a slider change the very, very poor batting engine they have? How about the extremely Loose fielding? No, there is not a slider for that. Thats just how the game was made.

It's just unbelievable that they would make a game soooooo bad out of the box.

MVP 2005 killed this game and that is sad because that was 2 years and a console ago.
Um, actually there are sliders for both of those things. No, im not a fanboy, i own an Elite and a ps3, i like my ps3 more, but with some decent sliders mlb2k7 is actually a damn good and looks fantastic.

Well, then thats pretty cool, but I am still left out in the cold online.

I did not know there were sliders on how the fielders move, I just thought was the motion capture and engine. Also I did not know there were sliders that make you go with a pitch low and away. I just thought that was the engine (something sliders can't control). So I guess if I try to pull a low and away pitch for a HR then I will hit a weak infield ground out.

I am still skeptical because these are the engines developers design, not something easily fixed by a slider. Something easily fixed by a slider is game speed, AI, HR's and contact.

Well, then thats pretty cool, but I am still left out in the cold online.

I did not know there were sliders on how the fielders move, I just thought was the motion capture and engine. Also I did not know there were sliders that make you go with a pitch low and away. I just thought that was the engine (something sliders can't control). So I guess if I try to pull a low and away pitch for a HR then I will hit a weak infield ground out.

I am still skeptical because these are the engines developers design, not something easily fixed by a slider. Something easily fixed by a slider is game speed, AI, HR's and contact.

I believe you can play online games with custom difficulty settings.

Also, there are 65 sliders in the game. For fielding, you can change the aggression of fielders, their reaction time, their speed, how hard they throw, and how prone they are to errors to completely change the way fielding plays. And you can set it differently for the AI so that the computer doesn't get as much assistance as you if you if you need it.

For batting, changing the power, contact, batter influence, step influence, pitch speed, and general pitch effectiveness modifier would address the second problem you had.

So yes, just about everything can be adjusted via the sliders in the game.

Lol I'm good, I don't have all these hours on my hands to pretty much make my own baseball game. You just cant slider your way into an excellent product in my opinion. That is up to the developers to make that product enjoyable or not. I will play with all 65 sliders 8 hours a day and then maybe in a month I will find something worse then MVP but better then (default 2k7).

Like I said, I'm good.

Lol I'm good, I don't have all these hours on my hands to pretty much make my own baseball game. You just cant slider your way into an excellent product in my opinion. That is up to the developers to make that product enjoyable or not. I will play with all 65 sliders 8 hours a day and then maybe in a month I will find something worse then MVP but better then (default 2k7).

Like I said, I'm good.

That's why you start from sliders others have experimented with. Took me about 3 games of playing to get some sliders on the net perfected (so that the game seems very realistic when I play). If you don't like the game, you don't like it. There's no question it's far better than MVP 05, though. Heck, the lead producer of that game is the lead producer of 2k7.

I much prefer the ability to modify every aspect of the game though. One thing I wished for while playing through NHL 07 (which I generally like, but it has huge issues on the defensive end of the ice) was more sliders than it had so I could actually make the game play realistically.

Lol I'm good, I don't have all these hours on my hands to pretty much make my own baseball game. You just cant slider your way into an excellent product in my opinion. That is up to the developers to make that product enjoyable or not. I will play with all 65 sliders 8 hours a day and then maybe in a month I will find something worse then MVP but better then (default 2k7).

Like I said, I'm good.

The PS3 seems a little advanced for you. If you want to pick up and games and play without having to worry about scary sliders that can fix your complaints you might want to think about the Wii.

The PS3 seems a little advanced for you. If you want to pick up and games and play without having to worry about scary sliders that can fix your complaints you might want to think about the Wii.

Huh? How is a Wii going to bring back MVP or make 2k7 better? Does the Wii even have an MLB game? How did the Wii get into this? I do not like or even own one :confused:.

Wow if it's not fanboy's for consoles then it's game company fanboy's :rolleyes: just can't win! This game is crap sliders or not andy! It is a bug filled, half assed piece of shyt! The gameplay is horrible... don't believe me then look at all of the game reviews (and user ones) they all don't lie!!!! Yes sliders help but you just can't recreate what they made! All you can do is try your hardest to get this game to play somewhat respectable. This game is a mess and I am stunned that there are so many of you sticking up for this mediocre game.


It is like this, I am not a guy who has all these hours to try and fix severe problems (with sliders) in a baseball game that I paid $60 for (and still cant play ranked games online with these settings). Even if I did adjust the settings the heart of the game is still there and it is disgusting, sorry.

PS. You are an adult because the PS3 MLB 2k7 sliders don't scare you :rolleyes:. That comment was desperate & made you look like you just stumbled off of the Wii and on to your parents computer kid. ;)

One more thing. The PS2 version has sliders as well, as would the Wii's version (if there were one), so what are you talking about? Is our PS3 an extremely strong console because.... we have sliders :eek: !!!!! Maybe I should get a Wii, I don't think I can handle that much power lol.

I hope after all these games the major sports leagues stop granting exclusive licenses and allow for more competition. At least when there was multiple brands making sports games everyone could find something they liked somewhere.

I hope after all these games the major sports leagues stop granting exclusive licenses and allow for more competition. At least when there was multiple brands making sports games everyone could find something they liked somewhere.

Best post thus far! So very true.

Wow if it's not fanboy's for consoles then it's game company fanboy's :rolleyes: just can't win! This game is crap sliders or not andy! It is a bug filled, half assed piece of shyt! The gameplay is horrible... don't believe me then look at all of the game reviews (and user ones) they all don't lie!!!! Yes sliders help but you just can't recreate what they made! All you can do is try your hardest to get this game to play somewhat respectable. This game is a mess and I am stunned that there are so many of you sticking up for this mediocre game.

Oh boy. While what he said was a bit offensive, you come off like a complete ass. The reviews for the game aren't nearly as bad as you make them out to be. Gamespot gave it a 7.8 for the 360, and IGN gave it a 7.9. These are not great reviews, but they are good. I respect a reasonably said opinion that knocks the game, but you word things like a child who's mother didn't get him Burger King for dinner.

Oh boy. While what he said was a bit offensive, you come off like a complete ass. The reviews for the game aren't nearly as bad as you make them out to be. Gamespot gave it a 7.8 for the 360, and IGN gave it a 7.9. These are not great reviews, but they are good. I respect a reasonably said opinion that knocks the game, but you word things like a child who's mother didn't get him Burger King for dinner.

Yeah, I am the bad guy here :rolleyes:. I swear no one can say their opinion without getting flamed by others anymore. Now I am the one getting called a child because I defended myself against the Wii comment lol. WOW! If I would have known people were on this games *censored* so bad I would not have even offered my opinion. I gave you and everyone a more than "reasonably said opinion" I just think some of you have a hard time dealing with it. A 7.8 or 7.9 is a severely flawed sports game. I have owned many sports titles over the years and I really don't recall many good ones that got an 8.0 or lower. Just take a look at gamerankings their user reviews are 5.5 or whatever! I am not in the minority you guys (the ones who defend this game) are!

Again I do apologize for (some) of my comments if they offended you but I will not sit here and ignore offensive remarks toward me. I have an opinion and I am sure a lot of guys/girls around here agree with my opinion. Really, I am starting to believe you guys don't know what a good baseball game is. I am looking at you and everyone else who loves this game as just a novice sports gamer or an avid baseball fan that does not quite know or even care all that much about how the game plays or simulation, it's all about the pretty blowing jersey's.

Also, are there certain levels of being offensive or an ass? It is pretty cut and dry, you are either an ass or you are a nice guy provoked into being one. I'll let you decide that one, but read it all before handing me your final judgement ;) . Please take in mind that yeah, my opinions are a bit abrasive but they are never geared toward others unless I feel their actions deserve a response.

Yeah, I am the bad guy here :rolleyes:. I swear no one can say their opinion without getting flamed by others anymore. Now I am the one getting called a child because I defended myself against the Wii comment lol. WOW! If I would have known people were on this games *censored* so bad I would not have even offered my opinion. I gave you and everyone a more than "reasonably said opinion" I just think some of you have a hard time dealing with it. A 7.8 or 7.9 is a severely flawed sports game. I have owned many sports titles over the years and I really don't recall many good ones that got an 8.0 or lower. Just take a look at gamerankings their user reviews are 5.5 or whatever! I am not in the minority you guys (the ones who defend this game) are!

Again I do apologize for (some) of my comments if they offended you but I will not sit here and ignore offensive remarks toward me. I have an opinion and I am sure a lot of guys/girls around here agree with my opinion. Really, I am starting to believe you guys don't know what a good baseball game is. I am looking at you and everyone else who loves this game as just a novice sports gamer or an avid baseball fan that does not quite know or even care all that much about how the game plays or simulation, it's all about the pretty blowing jersey's.
The reviews indicate that the game is "good." It may not be the best baseball game, but it's good according to the "professional" reviews and the reviews of many other gamers. I can understand why someone dislikes MLB 2K7, just as I can understand why someone dislikes any other game. However, you barged into this thread using an excessive use of the word "lol," numerous uses of the phrase "piece of shyt," and explain to us that this is one of the worst baseball games ever made like it's a fact. I suggest you go to the gamefaqs forum if this is your writing style.

People on both sides stated their opinions, yet you continue beating a dead horse with the same rhetoric that only a crazed maniac uses. MLB 2K7 does have its problems and I do disagree with many of your points, but my only problem is when people word things like a lunatic.

The reviews indicate that the game is "good." It may not be the best baseball game, but it's good according to the "professional" reviews and the reviews of many other gamers. I can understand why someone dislikes MLB 2K7, just as I can understand why someone dislikes any other game. However, you barged into this thread using an excessive number of exclamation points, numerous uses of the phrase "piece of shyt," and explain to us that this is one of the worst baseball games ever made like it's a fact. I suggest you go to the gamefaqs forum if this is your writing style.

People on both sides stated their opinions, yet you continue beating a dead horse with the same rhetoric that only a crazed maniac uses. MLB 2K7 does have its problems and I do disagree with many of your points, but my only problem is when people word things like a lunatic.

Yes I do over use exclamation points and yeah I probably should not call the game a piece of shyt, but when I give my opinion I tend to be passionate about things and it usually is taken the wrong way. This game is more disappointing then good and that's what burns me up a bit. This game received hype and (in my opinion) fell flat on it's face. While it is not the worst baseball game ever made, it is one of the worse (in my opinion) due to hype, price, console power and exclusive licensing. In my opinion they deserve all the bad press they can get.