View Full Version : Panny ES20 suddenly does not like RAM's
tomanystraydogs 05-01-07, 11:09 PM It has been fairly solid for the past year.
I basically use it like a vcr and leave a dvd-ram disc in all the time.
Last night I started getting: cannot read. please check the disc.
I have 5 dvd-ram discs, same story on all of them.
I popped in a dvd-r, no problem.
Today I bought a new pack of 5 dvd-rams, same story, cannot read.
Seems odd it can read dvd-r but not dvd-ram.
Ideas?
tia
FullOnShred 05-01-07, 11:17 PM I did not originate this. Wash the DVD-RAM discs in warm soapy water and carefully dry them with a soft lint free towel or rag. Try it with 2 -3 and see what happens. I have had a Panny ES10K "suddenly" refuse to read a disc I had been using for years, and then refuse to read a brand new one fresh out of the pack. When I washed them per suggestion of someone here on this board, it would again read all my DVD-RAM discs. Not kidding.
tomanystraydogs 05-01-07, 11:19 PM Wow, seems odd but will give it a try.
Sounds right for a disc with "Random" in its name! :D
Seriously, just a VWAG, but maybe there was a surge or sag in the power while it was recording, which might have corrupted the RAM instructions in the read/write strategy, but the -R portion of the FW is still OK???
Try washing first, as suggested, then maybe a reboot...or might require a FW reload?
tomanystraydogs 05-01-07, 11:30 PM Thx but the warm soap wash did not work.
Yep, dvd-r is just fine, will read, record, erase dvd-r, but it chokes on dvd-ram, that's what's got me scratching my head.
tomanystraydogs 05-02-07, 12:42 AM Put in a commercial disc (the Matrix), fired right up.
Put in another dvd-r disc, no problem.
Put in a new dvd-ram disc, will not read it.
tomanystraydogs 05-02-07, 11:11 AM Opened the case and cleaned the laser. Nothing came off it, seemed very clean.
Turned it back on, same results. Everything EXCEPT dvd-ram discs work fine.
Read my thread on a similar problem:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=838859
Mine would playback everything except DVD-V's. The RAM reboot did the trick. I've also heard to try powercycling it first (not just turning it off but unplugging it for a while).
I don't know if the RAM reset key combo is the same for your ES20, but I bet someone on this forum knows!
tomanystraydogs 05-02-07, 02:15 PM Thx for getting back to me.
(unit off, hold down "skip rev" + "time slip" + "open/close" for 5 seconds)
skip rev and time slip are not buttons that are on the unit
I did try with the remote but it did nothing which is what I thought
tomanystraydogs 05-02-07, 06:04 PM update
dvd-ram - cannot read
commercial dvd - works fine
philips dvd-r - works fine
just bought a pack of sony dvd-rw - cannot read
I'm stumped
New Pioneer 05-02-07, 11:11 PM Isn't there a option to format a DVD-Ram? Have you tried reformating one of your discs.?
tomanystraydogs 05-02-07, 11:21 PM Yeah there is but....can't get there because it won't read the disc :(
tomanystraydogs 05-03-07, 03:15 PM Well I found a reset sequence
On the unit, press channel up and channel down and the same time, hold for about 10 seconds.
Doing this caused it to ask for the language, do a channel search and set the time.
However dvd-ram and dvd-rw still cannot read while commercial dvd and dvd-r work fine.
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