View Full Version : Panny ES20 suddenly does not like RAM's


tomanystraydogs
05-01-07, 11:09 PM
It has been fairly solid for the past year.

I basically use it like a vcr and leave a dvd-ram disc in all the time.

Last night I started getting: cannot read. please check the disc.

I have 5 dvd-ram discs, same story on all of them.

I popped in a dvd-r, no problem.

Today I bought a new pack of 5 dvd-rams, same story, cannot read.

Seems odd it can read dvd-r but not dvd-ram.

Ideas?

tia

FullOnShred
05-01-07, 11:17 PM
I did not originate this. Wash the DVD-RAM discs in warm soapy water and carefully dry them with a soft lint free towel or rag. Try it with 2 -3 and see what happens. I have had a Panny ES10K "suddenly" refuse to read a disc I had been using for years, and then refuse to read a brand new one fresh out of the pack. When I washed them per suggestion of someone here on this board, it would again read all my DVD-RAM discs. Not kidding.

tomanystraydogs
05-01-07, 11:19 PM
Wow, seems odd but will give it a try.

wajo
05-01-07, 11:20 PM
Sounds right for a disc with "Random" in its name! :D

Seriously, just a VWAG, but maybe there was a surge or sag in the power while it was recording, which might have corrupted the RAM instructions in the read/write strategy, but the -R portion of the FW is still OK???

Try washing first, as suggested, then maybe a reboot...or might require a FW reload?

tomanystraydogs
05-01-07, 11:30 PM
Thx but the warm soap wash did not work.

Yep, dvd-r is just fine, will read, record, erase dvd-r, but it chokes on dvd-ram, that's what's got me scratching my head.

tomanystraydogs
05-02-07, 12:42 AM
Put in a commercial disc (the Matrix), fired right up.

Put in another dvd-r disc, no problem.

Put in a new dvd-ram disc, will not read it.

tomanystraydogs
05-02-07, 11:11 AM
Opened the case and cleaned the laser. Nothing came off it, seemed very clean.

Turned it back on, same results. Everything EXCEPT dvd-ram discs work fine.

tvserf
05-02-07, 01:58 PM
Read my thread on a similar problem:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=838859

Mine would playback everything except DVD-V's. The RAM reboot did the trick. I've also heard to try powercycling it first (not just turning it off but unplugging it for a while).
I don't know if the RAM reset key combo is the same for your ES20, but I bet someone on this forum knows!

tomanystraydogs
05-02-07, 02:15 PM
Thx for getting back to me.

(unit off, hold down "skip rev" + "time slip" + "open/close" for 5 seconds)

skip rev and time slip are not buttons that are on the unit

I did try with the remote but it did nothing which is what I thought

tomanystraydogs
05-02-07, 06:04 PM
update

dvd-ram - cannot read

commercial dvd - works fine

philips dvd-r - works fine

just bought a pack of sony dvd-rw - cannot read

I'm stumped

New Pioneer
05-02-07, 11:11 PM
Isn't there a option to format a DVD-Ram? Have you tried reformating one of your discs.?

tomanystraydogs
05-02-07, 11:21 PM
Yeah there is but....can't get there because it won't read the disc :(

tomanystraydogs
05-03-07, 03:15 PM
Well I found a reset sequence

On the unit, press channel up and channel down and the same time, hold for about 10 seconds.

Doing this caused it to ask for the language, do a channel search and set the time.

However dvd-ram and dvd-rw still cannot read while commercial dvd and dvd-r work fine.