I've been buying alot of movies lately like many of you I suppose, on both sides of the fence. I've bought some that I wouldn't have bought on DVD, but I did so on BD because they look *awesome*. At some point, I think I at least won't be blown away by good HD video. After that, what's left?

Audio. No matter how many times you watch a movie on dvd/bd/hd-dvd, a good audio track can shake your living room and wow you. Now I'm personally blown away by DTS tracks on SD-DVD's. I prefer the audio tracks on alot of the DVD's I own to some of the BD's I have. That's wrong. I think many of us are really hoping for A. more choice in the audio tracks on our disks, and B some affordable *good* receivers to make use of them.

funny, i am starting to think the same thing. i've been into hd for about 2 months now and the wow factor has worn off quite a lot... that is until i see an sd picture and then i remember the wow again.

funny, i am starting to think the same thing. i've been into hd for about 2 months now and the wow factor has worn off quite a lot... that is until i see an sd picture and then i remember the wow again.


Was juust gonna mention that.

Easiest way to appreciate HD is to see SD.... personally I only have an SD sattelite service... so it's easy to appreciate BD on a daily basis.

funny, i am starting to think the same thing. i've been into hd for about 2 months now and the wow factor has worn off quite a lot... that is until i see an sd picture and then i remember the wow again.

Exactly.

^ The thing about the highdef disks is that you just can't enjoy SD DVD again. Ever. I already noticed this from years of HD-cable (in the beginning, they were always 19Mbps, now...), it made collecting SD DVD a lot less interesting the last two years.

The wow factor wore off a long time ago for me, but now I can learn to enjoy watching movies rather than just "watching" them. Still, I like to throw in some of my original HD purchases like Sahara and Riddick every now and then to recreate that feeling of amazement.

Yeah when we start seeing movies in 3D Hologram!

When you switch back & forth you appreciate HD much more. I'm a baseball fanatic, and only a few of the stadiums around the league seem to have cameras to broadcast in HD. One series will be in HD, the next will be in SD, FOX Saturday games are in SD widescreen for some reason.

I don't watch many movies, but they too are losing the wow factor, it's partially due to every other movie looking like crap from heavy grain. I know everyone says "film is grain, and grain is film, that's how it's supposed to look." Whatever, it still looks like crap to me. Not looking to spur discussion here, I know the arguments on both sides, just saying heavy grain has caused the wow factor to go away for me.

I am done with watching movies for PQ only.

I watch movies I want to watch and I generally expect them to look great.

I do my best to watch no SD tv. I think scrubs, daily show, and mythbusters are the only shows I 'slum' for.

Same with DVD, we have plenty of BDs queued up to watch, so anything that isn't currently available can just wait. Exception was made for BSG season 2, season 3 I grabbed off of Universal HD.

It is all about the image for me and the "wow" factor hasn't worn off a bit. For me, a solid 5.1 soundtrack is all I need. The rest of the mumbo jumbo falls on deaf ears.

I have a 720p display. It will when I upgrade.:p

Has anyone ever thought about movies filmed in 1080p and how obsolete they will be in ten or more years?

Think about it...

They will be limited to that resolution for all time. When the 2160p+ displays come out in the future, movies made in the digital realm (1080p24) will look terrible with no real way of improving the transfer, ever! Movies from the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's could in fact look better than movies filmed now because the studios can go back and make some crazy 4k scan off the film itself.

Heh. 'Revenge of the Sith' will look worse than 'A New Hope' in ten years(exaggerating, of course). Unbelievable.

I can't wait for 10,080p movies. It will be like a holographic, IMAX, 360 degree screen with a rotating virtual reality chair. So 1080p will be okay for now.

I love chocolate cake. If i eat chocolate cake for breakfast lunch and supper for a year i would think that the chocolate cake wont taste as good anymore. I am always wowed by HD when i turn on discovery. But then i dont watch HD to watch HD. when i watch HD its because its a program i want to see and i get to see it in HD and at that point i enjoy. :)

Nah...

The future of "home theater rooms" holds for us padded rooms...where we'll lay down, plug a neural shunt into the base of our cerebellums, close our eyes, and put our thumbs in our mouths...cuz we'll think we're really "there" :p...

Has anyone ever thought about movies filmed in 1080p and how obsolete they will be in ten or more years?

Think about it...

They will be limited to that resolution for all time. When the 2160p+ displays come out in the future, movies made in the digital realm (1080p24) will look terrible with no real way of improving the transfer, ever! Movies from the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's could in fact look better than movies filmed now because the studios can go back and make some crazy 4k scan off the film itself.

Heh. 'Revenge of the Sith' will look worse than 'A New Hope' in ten years(exaggerating, of course). Unbelievable.
Agreed. I'm reminded of this curse everytime I dream of watching some of my old favorite TV shows in HD only to realize they will never see the light of day.

My biggest WOW came the first few times I saw HD. I remember searching all those antenna channels hoping to find another HD signal. Those were the days! :)

Has anyone ever thought about movies filmed in 1080p and how obsolete they will be in ten or more years?

Think about it...

They will be limited to that resolution for all time. When the 2160p+ displays come out in the future, movies made in the digital realm (1080p24) will look terrible with no real way of improving the transfer, ever! Movies from the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's could in fact look better than movies filmed now because the studios can go back and make some crazy 4k scan off the film itself.

Heh. 'Revenge of the Sith' will look worse than 'A New Hope' in ten years(exaggerating, of course). Unbelievable.

While that may be true, there is the factor of required seating distance to consider. According to a resolution chart (http://www.carltonbale.com/2006/11/1080p-does-matter/), you have to sit less than 8 feet from an 80" display for the full benefit of 1440p to be visible.

I think higher contrast ratios will be what wow's us from now on more than raw resolution. The eye can detect 1 million to 1, and most displays are 10,000 to 1 and less. Tons of room for improvement.

We've already hid the limits of diminishing returns on resolution. I don't think the human eye can see any difference between 1080p and 2160p, even at a very close range of say 2 or 3 feet. Now contrast and grading are another thing, but those are limited by displays not by the content, for the most part.

While that may be true, there is the factor of required seating distance to consider. According to a resolution chart (http://www.carltonbale.com/2006/11/1080p-does-matter/), you have to sit less than 8 feet from an 80" display for the full benefit of 1440p to be visible.

I was going to post the same thing...thank you!!

Like the poster below you...contrast ratios and other factors are to me...already a bigger deal.

I would rather have a 720p display calibrated, with high CR (on/off and ANSI), and a properly set up room, than a 1080p display missing one of the key ingredients.

PQ is not just resolution, not by a long shot. And to fully benefit from over 1080p you have to be looking at a pretty damn big screen sitting pretty damn close...

One thing to consider now that we are approaching resolution saturation is dynamic range. All video media have way less dynamic range than reality, and much less than we can perceive. Will displays that can tackle this emerge?

I've been buying alot of movies lately like many of you I suppose, on both sides of the fence. I've bought some that I wouldn't have bought on DVD, but I did so on BD because they look *awesome*. At some point, I think I at least won't be blown away by good HD video. After that, what's left?http://www.cinematography.net/Pages%20DW/UltraHighDefinition-UHDTV.htm

I remember reading an article a few years back when they street-tested this in Japan. Some pedestrians allegedly got motion-sickness while watching action on a large-screen monitor.

I've rented Lord of War and Casino Royal and neither movie looked better than the compressed HD you can get on Directv. I'm hoping that the PQ improves on these discs. I have a Sony SXRD set. Lord of War had good resolution but there was a grain to the picture that is unacceptable. Casone was cleaner but nothing like Planet Earth that I saw on Directv. Perhaps it's because Planet Earth was filmed in HD and these other movies are not. Well that's my theory.

you could say that about anything "wow" really.


at some point - life won't wow us.

True, everything pales eventually or even worse, it does not wow us as much as we thought it would..

While that may be true, there is the factor of required seating distance to consider. According to a resolution chart (http://www.carltonbale.com/2006/11/1080p-does-matter/), you have to sit less than 8 feet from an 80" display for the full benefit of 1440p to be visible.

Was going to post the same thing. It will only matter if you have a HUGE screen.

I've rented Lord of War and Casino Royal and neither movie looked better than the compressed HD you can get on Directv.
I call BS on the above statement. I've got Casino Royale running on a 1080p 134" projected image and it is spectacular. There is nothing that any satellite/cable provider has that can match its PQ. Too much macroblocking and downrezing.

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Also, as far as the wow factor wearing off - I look at it like this:

You don't think about what your eyes perceive as you go through your work days, etc. Your eyes see far more than 1080p can offer on a daily basis and the "wow" factor of your eyes has yet to wear off. 1080p just allows us to focus back on the movies and not be concerned about remembering we're watching a movie. It allows us an invisible window that susbends disbelief and puts us into these worlds we wanted to see.

Please put down your remotes you BR/BD HDDVD couch potatos and go outside to see the 10,000,000,000,000,000,000x10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 real world and come back to enjoy HD.

I work 70 hours a week during the slow season.

This isn't really the hobby for people that sit on their couch all day. Unless they have an HD trust fund.

Put your own remote down.

The only HD that ever wows me is anything that was created digitally (animation, CGI, etc. etc).

I've seen almost no actual filmed footage movies that have wowed me. Mostly due to crappy transfers and excessive grain. I don't care what anyone says, grain on a digital display looks like nothing more than noise.

Yeah when we start seeing movies in 3D Hologram!

lol