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superrober 05-02-07, 01:01 PM I´m making a survey for college about next-gen systems and I haven´t found anywhere a poll that shows statistics for ps3 problems and deaths. In my country very few people own a ps3 ( since it costs here about $1200 )so I have to check this data online.I hope every owner can contribute with their opinions.
Thanks !!
Jiffylush 05-02-07, 01:03 PM I have seen a couple of reports of problems with the USB ports, but they seem few and far between.
I think if you compare it to the red ring of death you will find that it is very reliable.
Maybe more issues will pop up after it has been available for a longer period of time.
Kevin12586 05-02-07, 01:15 PM Why no choice for 'My PS3 has given me no problems since I bought it'? That is my selection
I havent had any issues yet, had mine since launch.
No issues here with my PS3. Had it for a little over a month now and during that time it was running Folding @ Home nearly 24/7. I just stopped it from F@H last night and the PS3 still works perfectly fine.
superrober 05-02-07, 01:20 PM Yes !! I´m sorry, I forgot to put the " no problems so far" option. Can anyone please let me know how to edit the poll?
Thanks
kwaidonjin 05-02-07, 01:28 PM no issues with mine, a well built and engineered piece of electronics.
Jeff Flowerday 05-02-07, 01:29 PM Yes !! I´m sorry, I forgot to put the " no problems so far" option. Can anyone please let me know how to edit the poll?
Thanks
Edit your original post, it should give you an option to edit the poll.
Deinonych 05-02-07, 01:30 PM No issues with mine, so I can't vote.
Pratt75 05-02-07, 01:35 PM I've had no issues either.
Stangs55 05-02-07, 01:39 PM I'm on PS3 #2 now after the first one died....no problems with the new unit.
superrober 05-02-07, 01:42 PM Edit your original post, it should give you an option to edit the poll.
I tried, but I can only edit my first post and not the poll.
yakkosmurf 05-02-07, 01:53 PM Why no choice for 'My PS3 has given me no problems since I bought it'? That is my selection
Ditto. No problems for me as well.
gamelover360 05-02-07, 01:55 PM Nice poll. You should apply for a job with the "drive by media". They would hire you in a minute! :p
coneyparleg 05-02-07, 01:57 PM um no problems for me
since I can't chose that on your poll, please use pen and paper to add this statistic to your paper
No issues. Can't vote based on those choices. Your figures will be pretty meaningless since you won't have any numbers to compare against the number with issues.
superrober 05-02-07, 01:59 PM Nice poll. You should apply for a job with the "drive by media". They would hire you in a minute! :p
Sorry, dont understand the joke. Can anyone help me edit the poll ?
superrober 05-02-07, 02:01 PM No issues. Can't vote based on those choices. Your figures will be pretty meaningless since you won't have any numbers to compare against the number with issues.
I know ! I´m getting awfull results unless I edit the poll :(
ppshooky 05-02-07, 02:06 PM How about just flagging this post for deletion (I thought you are able to delete your own posts) and starting a new one?
Or are we only able to delete replies?
gamelover360 05-02-07, 02:09 PM Sorry, dont understand the joke. Can anyone help me edit the poll ?
It was an ill formed and poorly communicated reference to the "liberal bias" in the traditional media (which Rush Limbaugh refers to the drive by media).
Sorry, dont understand the joke. Can anyone help me edit the poll ?
Send a moderator a Private message and ask them to edit the poll for you.
todrigo 05-02-07, 02:16 PM Got no problems with my PS3
Kysersose 05-02-07, 02:20 PM Edited the poll.
mboojigga 05-02-07, 02:30 PM Well MilkPower presented exactly why these polls are not too accurate. Why would you say yes to every problem if your PS3 has died? Wouldn't the only answer simply be my PS3 died.
Kyser is their some sort of guidance that can assist with the polls so answers are not given out like this.
Protopet 05-02-07, 03:13 PM My PS3 is flawless, but it does give a low hum when the volume is loud. Although, I usually only notice it at the XMB.
briankmonkey 05-02-07, 03:23 PM Flawless and dead silent :D
William Mapstone 05-02-07, 03:30 PM Thousands of PS3 have been running 24/7 for over a month with no problems (folding@home when not playing games). I doubt many 360 owners will dare to do the same...
briankmonkey 05-02-07, 03:31 PM Thousands of PS3 have been running 24/7 for over a month with no problems (folding@home when not playing games). I doubt many 360 owners will dare to do the same...
I sure as hell wouldn't with mine.
superrober 05-02-07, 04:30 PM Edited the poll.
Thanks!!
superrober 05-02-07, 04:34 PM It was an ill formed and poorly communicated reference to the "liberal bias" in the traditional media (which Rush Limbaugh refers to the drive by media).
Sorry friend, don´t know Rush Limbaugh. But thank you for stoping by ! ;)
Flawless and dead silent :D
Same here.
Blitzzz 05-02-07, 04:44 PM controllers lost sync a few times this week.... never in game, just after bootup which is weird
otherwise it's been perfect
superrober 05-02-07, 04:47 PM I think the sample is still to small to detect any real changes form January ( last poll ) but you can see that " No problems so far " went from 92,47% on 1-25 to 81,69% today.
Thank you everyone for your answers and to everyone else, please vote !
I´m making a survey for college about next-gen systems and I haven´t found anywhere a poll that shows statistics for ps3 problems and deaths. In my country very few people own a ps3 ( since it costs here about $1200 )so I have to check this data online.I hope every owner can contribute with their opinions.
Thanks !!
Rule #1...learn to design a poll/survey before you conduct one.
In this case, you gave participants the option to check multiple overlapping choices.
"My Ps3 presents HDMI problems" and "My ps3 presents audio problems" overlap because HDMI can route audio.
"My ps3 freezes within 3 hours" and "My ps3 died" overlap because many consoles freeze as they die.
Furthermore, your poll contains an implicit skew in its formulation. Take 2 PS3 owners, 1 of them has no problem at all, 1 of them has audio problems and "other" harware problems.
In your poll, these 2 individuals will yield 1 vote for "no problems" and 2 votes for not-"no problems", whereas only 2 consoles were reported upon.
superrober 05-02-07, 05:17 PM Rule #1...learn to design a poll/survey before you conduct one.
In this case, you gave participants the option to check multiple overlapping choices.
"My Ps3 presents HDMI problems" and "My ps3 presents audio problems" overlap because HDMI can route audio.
"My ps3 freezes within 3 hours" and "My ps3 died" overlap because many consoles freeze as they die.
Furthermore, your poll contains an implicit skew in its formulation. Take 2 PS3 owners, 1 of them has no problem at all, 1 of them has audio problems and "other" harware problems.
In your poll, these 2 individuals will yield 1 vote for "no problems" and 2 votes for not-"no problems", whereas only 2 consoles were reported upon.
You DO know that telling someone to LEARN something before doing it is insulting right ?! Why cant you just talk like a civil person and ADVICE. I think you dont have either the brains or the character to do that RIGHT?!
todrigo 05-02-07, 05:34 PM I aplaud you for using this method to conduct your research. The amount of effort needed to make any poll 100% accurate over a population of great size is extrodinary. Since a PS3 could have more than one problem I see no reason why responders should be limited to one checkmark. If the forums poll mechanism supported it the best way to conduct this poll would be to have 2 questions "Your PS3 has no problems" - "Your PS3 has problems" Then have a second tier of questions to categorize the problems.
wsylvan 05-02-07, 05:34 PM There isn't a need to call "polling police" because some problems with the way the question was constructed. A majority of internet polls are inherently biased for reasons pertaining to their sampling methodology which are completely unrelated to their question construction. If superrober were trying to make a liviing off of survey/polling design I would suggest he looks elsewhere to put food on the table....:)
As an informal forum poll it is good enough for government work. That being said, no problems here.
tingham 05-02-07, 05:37 PM I´m making a survey for college about next-gen systems and I haven´t found anywhere a poll that shows statistics for ps3 problems and deaths. In my country very few people own a ps3 ( since it costs here about $1200 )so I have to check this data online.I hope every owner can contribute with their opinions.
Thanks !!
What country are you from...that the ps3 cost's $1200.00... I bet it is out in the middle of the ocean somewhere.
wsylvan 05-02-07, 05:49 PM I´m making a survey for college about next-gen systems and I haven´t found anywhere a poll that shows statistics for ps3 problems and deaths. In my country very few people own a ps3 ( since it costs here about $1200 )so I have to check this data online.I hope every owner can contribute with their opinions.
Thanks !!
Is this just a class assignment? If so your poll should be fine. Please be aware that since this is not a random sample in any form and that since this forum does not represent the universe of PS3 owners your sample will inherently be biased. If you are interested in doing something a little more thorough you might want to take a look at "Mail and Internet Surveys: The Tailored Design Method" by Don Dillman.
superrober 05-02-07, 06:19 PM Is this just a class assignment? If so your poll should be fine. Please be aware that since this is not a random sample in any form and that since this forum does not represent the universe of PS3 owners your sample will inherently be biased. If you are interested in doing something a little more thorough you might want to take a look at "Mail and Internet Surveys: The Tailored Design Method" by Don Dillman.
Thank you for you advice ! Unfortunately I did make a mistake at conducting the poll. There should be only one choice per user. I´ll will have to "clean" the results at the end; even tough I´m also interested in looking how many problems can a system have at the same time.
If anyone else got offended for my mistake please forgive me, I´m actually pretty good at statistics ( either that or my class is full of idiots )
superrober 05-02-07, 06:26 PM What country are you from...that the ps3 cost's $1200.00... I bet it is out in the middle of the ocean somewhere.
Not THAT far, unfortunately there is no Sony customer service in my country and no international warranty is valid so you have to pay a LOT more to get a store warranty. I shipped my 46v2500 tough, VERY HAPPY !! The same tv costs $6000 here.
SamIam2 05-02-07, 06:40 PM No real problems with mine (bought at introduction) ... although, it has frozen several times on me while playing Front Mission 4 - the machine is on 24-7.
The Bluetooth controller will also sometimes "disconnect" from the system (even with a reasonable charge left) ... but realistically, I think this has more to do with the well known issues surrounding BlueTooth rather than the PS3.
wsylvan 05-02-07, 06:53 PM Thank you for you advice ! Unfortunately I did make a mistake at conducting the poll. There should be only one choice per user. I´ll will have to "clean" the results at the end; even tough I´m also interested in looking how many problems can a system have at the same time.
If anyone else got offended for my mistake please forgive me, I´m actually pretty good at statistics ( either that or my class is full of idiots )
There doesn't necessarily need to be only one choice. If your categories are mutually exclusive and exhaustive then your are correct, but if your categories are not mutually exclusive then you can have mutliple selections. There is nothing about having a video problem that means you can not at the same time be experiencing an audio problem. Likewise, you could be having a video problem AND your PS3 could be shutting off after 3 hrs. Since thse are not exclusive categories is is perfectly acceptable to allow for multiple responses.
When you engage in the cleaning the problem will be that since your instructions did not indicate there could be or should not be multiple responses you have no way of getting at the intent of the respondent. I suppose you could guess based upon how many they filled out, but then that would be adding additional bias.
tingham 05-02-07, 07:09 PM Not THAT far, unfortunately there is no Sony customer service in my country and no international warranty is valid so you have to pay a LOT more to get a store warranty. I shipped my 46v2500 tough, VERY HAPPY !! The same tv costs $6000 here.
You still did not answer my question...what country are you from? Or do you have other motives for this poll?
You DO know that telling someone to LEARN something before doing it is insulting right ?! Why cant you just talk like a civil person and ADVICE. I think you dont have either the brains or the character to do that RIGHT?!
You need to learn to value feedback. Negative feedback is the only kind of feedback you can learn from.
I thought you would want to know your poll is doomed right from the start and you won't be able to use it in any assignment you may have.
You not knowing how to formulate a reasonable poll/survey does not say anything about your level of education or intelligence. We all start knowing nothing, then we learn.
Resorting to insults does not help your case either.
Finally, "advice" is a noun, not a verb. "advise" is the verb you were looking for.
When you engage in the cleaning the problem will be that since your instructions did not indicate there could be or should not be multiple responses you have no way of getting at the intent of the respondent. I suppose you could guess based upon how many they filled out, but then that would be adding additional bias.
Exactly, there will be no way to "clean" that poll without assuming things about the intent of the respondent.
So, as I said, whatever result comes out of this will be flawed.
Polls, surveys and statistics are useful tools, when used correctly.
ThumperII 05-02-07, 10:05 PM You need to learn to value feedback. Negative feedback is the only kind of feedback you can learn from.
I thought you would want to know your poll is doomed right from the start and you won't be able to use it in any assignment you may have.
You not knowing how to formulate a reasonable poll/survey does not say anything about your level of education or intelligence. We all start knowing nothing, then we learn.
Resorting to insults does not help your case either.
Finally, "advice" is a noun, not a verb. "advise" is the verb you were looking for.
Those presenting constructive criticism should learn to do it in a way that is constructive rather than condescending and personal. No one likes to hear that what they did was incorrect or not good enough to accomplish their goals. If one is willing to take the time to correct the issues, it may be best to do it in a way that would be more likely to be accepted.
Wouldn't you think that would be easier for people to hear, process and take action on?
wsylvan 05-02-07, 11:41 PM You need to learn to value feedback. Negative feedback is the only kind of feedback you can learn from
I am sure there are many psychologists who would disagree with this. From a behaviorist standpoint there is both positive and negative reinforcement. It maybe obvious which of the two you prefer...but you need to lighten up.
Walter Sobchak: Am I wrong?
The Dude: No you're not wrong.
Walter Sobchak: Am I wrong?
The Dude: You're not wrong Walter. You're just an a%^&*$#.
Walter Sobchak: All right then.
:)
mboojigga 05-03-07, 12:09 AM Damn that quick. Starting lock sequence in T-Minus..............
I dont think this poll is very good. People should only be able have multiple selections.
IE, I voted one time for "No problems"
Someone else could select all "5 of the Problem selections"
That would make it look like 5 out of six people had problems. When really, only two people responded.
Those presenting constructive criticism should learn to do it in a way that is constructive rather than condescending and personal. No one likes to hear that what they did was incorrect or not good enough to accomplish their goals. If one is willing to take the time to correct the issues, it may be best to do it in a way that would be more likely to be accepted.
Wouldn't you think that would be easier for people to hear, process and take action on?
Yes, I could have been gentler. I could have been careful not to hurt the OP's feelings.
Equally, I could have said the poll was badly constructed without explaining why.
Next time, I'll just shut my big mouth.
Final Evangelion 05-03-07, 04:36 AM Very Solidly built machine. Much better than the 1st gen PS2s.
William Mapstone 05-03-07, 09:48 AM ^my first gen PS2 is still running great.
Protopet 05-03-07, 05:45 PM ^my first gen PS2 is still running great.
Me too. :)
superrober 05-03-07, 05:54 PM Thanks to everyone who contributed with their experiences!!
riffjim4069 05-03-07, 05:55 PM No issues here...
No problems. RUNS FLAWLESS
vaginavomit 05-07-07, 01:13 PM Rule #1...learn to design a poll/survey before you conduct one.
In this case, you gave participants the option to check multiple overlapping choices.
"My Ps3 presents HDMI problems" and "My ps3 presents audio problems" overlap because HDMI can route audio.
"My ps3 freezes within 3 hours" and "My ps3 died" overlap because many consoles freeze as they die.
Furthermore, your poll contains an implicit skew in its formulation. Take 2 PS3 owners, 1 of them has no problem at all, 1 of them has audio problems and "other" harware problems.
In your poll, these 2 individuals will yield 1 vote for "no problems" and 2 votes for not-"no problems", whereas only 2 consoles were reported upon.
no one cares
My PS3 has no known problems at this time. Though, admittedly, I use it much more for Blu-ray than for games right now. Once Lair comes out, then I'll be able to better put it through its paces.
I have had no problems in the month I have owned mine.
Sunkist 05-08-07, 11:54 AM Had mine since New Years with no problems.
chillonhill 06-12-07, 09:12 PM march 07, No problems Yeah
Is the PS3 performance still up to par following 1+ years since launch?
Is the PS3 performance still up to par following 1+ years since launch?
It seems the fail rate is still low at least by very few accounts we hear about at AVS, but my BD drive on a first run unit went out.
In another thread about the PS3 disc drive failing, one poster said Sony is extending the 1 year warranty to Jan 15th 08 on first run units. We will have to see what the next six months brings to get an even better idea of how solid the machine overall and specific hardware holds up.
So far we aren't encountering many HDD failures at all. Compared to other systems it seems to be far more dependable.
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