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psychdoctor
05-04-07, 12:56 PM
I noticed that last week or so that there are cheaters playing online in resistance fall of man. They are in Breach, and they are able to span on enemy sites. I was killed by an invisible soldier inside the base. Is there anything that can be done to stop cheaters on PS3?

ndskyz
05-04-07, 01:10 PM
Try to get the user names. Did it tell you who you were killed by? Take that user name and send it to Insominiac (via the my resisitance site) they ban people for language, I dont see why they cant ban cheaters. Also include the game type and when you were playing. They patch these holes and available cheats with updates.

HeadRusch
05-04-07, 01:50 PM
You know, cheating on a console isn't an easy thing, its not like a PC where you slap a patch on there and boom you can see through walls and such....

Are you sure you weren't playing a particularly laggy game? Lag accounts for more "He killed me before I turned the corner, he's cheating!" cries than anything else, ever, in the history of time.

stevesns69
05-04-07, 02:51 PM
I've seen cheaters on RFOM all the time on their server. I went into an unranked game in spectator mode and watched people going off the map. I think they set the room up on purpose, just to show holes in the maps. There are many glitches in the game. As for being killed by someone that appears to be invisible, I've seen that as well. They are setting their modem up to lag, so they are harder to kill. I haven't ever reported anyone, but I have told people before that they were lagging during the game and some say they didn't even know. So either they are lying or just have crappy internet connections. I not sure who or what to blame. It is annoying to be in a game where you know there are cheaters. If people are winning by using an unfair advantage, they should be banned. The sad thing is even if they are banned all they have to do is create and new account under a different name. So I think we will continue to see cheaters online during games.

Conspiracy*
05-04-07, 02:57 PM
I've seen cheaters on RFOM all the time on their server. I went into an unranked game in spectator mode and watched people going off the map. I think they set the room up on purpose, just to show holes in the maps. There are many glitches in the game. As for being killed by someone that appears to be invisible, I've seen that as well. They are setting their modem up to lag, so they are harder to kill. I haven't ever reported anyone, but I have told people before that they were lagging during the game and some say they didn't even know. So either they are lying or just have crappy internet connections. I not sure who or what to blame. It is annoying to be in a game where you know there are cheaters. If people are winning by using an unfair advantage, they should be banned. The sad thing is even if they are banned all they have to do is create and new account under a different name. So I think we will continue to see cheaters online during games.

Which maps did people get outside of the playing area? The only maps I know you could do that on were rooftop, lexington, sommerset, grimsby. They've fixed all the contact points letting people glitch in those games.

HeadRusch
05-04-07, 03:08 PM
Map Glitches happen, thats not cheating...thats exploiting a weakness that anyone in the game could do.

Cheating is running something locally that only you can do...see through walls, etc, etc.

The solution is to drop the game and find one where people dont resort
to that kind of play.

stevesns69
05-04-07, 03:25 PM
Which maps did people get outside of the playing area? The only maps I know you could do that on were rooftop, lexington, sommerset, grimsby. They've fixed all the contact points letting people glitch in those games.

I think it was about a week ago, so I saw people going off the map at sommerset. So if they fixed the holes, they missed a few. They get on the roof and then jump over the wall and then they're off the map. I've been in capture the flag games where they take the flag off the map and drag the game on until you just get pissed and leave the game. If you go into spectator mode you can see it, you just have to time it right I guess. I've seen unranked games called "glitch" or something to that effect to indicate to other players that they are "exploiting" holes in the game. I've even seen the teddy bear sitting on a rock that people were talking about on resistance.net. It's actually there a stuffed animal just sitting there off the sommerset map. Some areas you see are where the graphics stop and there are blank white areas where it wasn't completed because it wasn't supposed to be seen or was it? But why would Insomniac put a teddy bear sitting on a rock off the map unless they expected people to go off map and find it. Going off the map is cheating in my book because if you have a sniper rifle, you can shoot players still in the map and not even know where they are at. It's happened to me before and we had everybody with headsets looking for a sniper on our base and nobody was there, but everybody kept getting sniped. Just try spectator mode once in a while and you will see strange things still happening online. I think they created it for moderators to look for cheaters.

so's your face
05-04-07, 04:11 PM
I noticed that last week or so that there are cheaters playing online in resistance fall of man. They are in Breach, and they are able to span on enemy sites. I was killed by an invisible soldier inside the base. Is there anything that can be done to stop cheaters on PS3?


if they were in a squad and their squad members were in your base then it's not cheating at all since you can spawn near your squad.
now if they were killing you invisibly, then they were either lagging or lag switching which is cheating if your doing it intentionally. so yeah, report them on myresistance.net and they be dealt with.

kylebisme
05-04-07, 04:16 PM
Map Glitches happen, thats not cheating...thats exploiting a weakness that anyone in the game could do.

Cheating is running something locally that only you can do...see through walls, etc, etc.

So, do you classify spawning on enemy sites the same? I haven't seen it in Resistance, but I've seen some games with a weakness that lets people spawn where only the other team is supposed to by swtiching teams back and forth between respawning or other little exploits of the sort. According to your definition that wouldn't be cheating, but as far as I'm conserned it most certianly is, and the same goes for exploiting holes in maps as well.

joe_six_pack
05-04-07, 04:16 PM
I noticed that last week or so that there are cheaters playing online in resistance fall of man. They are in Breach, and they are able to span on enemy sites. I was killed by an invisible soldier inside the base. Is there anything that can be done to stop cheaters on PS3?


I know how to do that particular cheat, and there's no real way to stop them unless you know the cheat yourself or protect the cheat's access point.

That particular cheat is fatal to the gameplay of breach & for the most part, there's no sense playing the game.

I'm sure insomniac will fix it with the next patch though.

Which maps did people get outside of the playing area? The only maps I know you could do that on were rooftop, lexington, sommerset, grimsby. They've fixed all the contact points letting people glitch in those games.


They fixed most of them.

psychdoctor
05-04-07, 04:20 PM
The game was breach. The map was nottingham. They were spawning with four of my team guys there, our node was showing "blue", the enemy was orange. They would spawn and we would kill them, they did not even lesson the strength of our node because we killed them so quickly. No way they should have been able to spawn at "alpha" node in nottingham map. I also saw at least one enemy go off the map. The radar shows them going off the map. The radar also showed a guy at out base. But could not see him. He was shooting at the base node with carbine rockets. I shot where the rockets were coming from but no kill. I was also killed by a sniper inside my base! Once I was killed before I left the loft in the base (if you play in nottingham, it is the place you jumped down from by base node). It is a bummer. I was frustrated so I quit the game. I will write down the names of cheaters and the game host next time and report to resistance.net.

psychdoctor
05-04-07, 04:22 PM
I know how to do that particular cheat, and there's no real way to stop them unless you know the cheat yourself or protect the cheat's access point.

That particular cheat is fatal to the gameplay of breach & for the most part, there's no sense playing the game.

I'm sure insomniac will fix it with the next patch though.




They fixed most of them.
Okay, how do you protect the cheat's access point or how are they doing it?????

joe_six_pack
05-04-07, 04:26 PM
Okay, how do you protect the cheat's access point or how are they doing it?????

There's no point in playing that game. It's simply rediculous in custom. Just spec a game or two, and you'll find out the cheat. It's pretty much impossible to kill the cheaters if you're inside the map. Everyone just rushes for the access point and fights over it. The team that gets out of the map pretty much wins. It's stupid.

I'd rather not say exactly how it's done, as it will tend to perpetuate more cheating. Just avoid the nottingham breach games until insomniac fixes it.

Mattardo
05-04-07, 05:07 PM
It's simple: online games are GREAT until the cheating starts, then it's simply time to stop playing the game. That's how it's always been with console games that weren't easily patched, anyways. I tried to get the game from day one and then played online until the cheaters started entering, at which point it was time to find a new game to play. If the developers want me to continue playing their game, they will fix the problems. The biggest problem apart from cheaters, so far, with this game has been quitters. When you start losing a team game, don't be an ass and quit. Try your best until the bitter end, and try NOT to be the anonymous jackass you are. Of course, quitting games when cheating is involved brings this whole honor issue into question. But to be fair, I never saw cheating in this game when quitting was involved so... I'm a firm believer in having network acess to the game locked out for one hour when you quit a game (if the game prohibits new players from joining midgame) - I'm talking to YOU Halo2 and Resistance. Sigh. Hopefully, the 'exploits and glitches' (still cheating if you take advantage of them against others) will be fixed.

podwich
05-04-07, 09:43 PM
Map Glitches happen, thats not cheating...thats exploiting a weakness that anyone in the game could do.

Cheating is running something locally that only you can do...see through walls, etc, etc.

The solution is to drop the game and find one where people dont resort
to that kind of play.

No, that's pretty much cheating, too. That isn't how the game was designed to be played.

HeadRusch
05-04-07, 10:03 PM
I consider map exploits to be really lousy sportsmanship, but I dont consider it cheating.
An Aim-Bot...thats cheating. Walking in between a wall because the map has a design flaw, thats exploitation of a bug....cheating? No. Bad Sportsmanship? yes.

Moral of the Story: Play with friends who dont do that stuff.

kylebisme
05-04-07, 10:13 PM
So tricking the game into spawning you where the enemy is supposed to spawn by some exploit is something you don't consider cheating either?

Mattardo
05-04-07, 11:05 PM
Cheaters always have an excuse like "I'm just exploiting a game glitch" which soon leads to "I'm just exploiting bad game design" which leads to "I'm actually a Messiah teaching the game developer to improve on the product". Isn't that how it usually goes? The 3 stages of Cheater-Denial?

psychdoctor
05-05-07, 12:20 AM
I just played all day, took the names of 3 cheaters and will report them. We used the auger and killed the guy! I hope insominac fixes this because its hard enough to win with skilled players let alone cheaters that go out side the map and end up at your home base.