By the time a lot of consumers are able to get ahold for OLED and SED television sets, Blu-ray and/or HD-DVD should be a much more popular format. But, I believe that media formats will change, depending upon the display hardware released. Do you think current Blu-ray and HD-DVD technology will be able to take advantage of the new OLED and SED televisions? Or will the formats die out with LCD, DLP and Plasma displays? Will a new format have to be released to really show the full capabilities of OLED and SED? The the disc will continue to change at a faster rate then previous technologies. Or is this as good as current filmed media will get and the change will have to come with video cameras?

The day will come when we look at our TV and it will be like we are looking out of our window.

Your forward thinking has found me.

The image will be more beautiful than you can imagine. Only in dreams is such imagery realized.

1080p will look nice on a 3840 x 2160 QuadHD OLED panel (heretofore abbreviated QHDO), don't you think?

QHDO will have its day in the sun, there's no need to believe or even have faith. The irresistible gears of market and material efficiency will bring this nightmare to your doorstep soon. It will be a Hell of an enjoyment, guaranteed.

no matter the size
it will cut your eyes
with image so sharp
you'll see the carp

and black like the back
of the darkest shack
no need to cut the panel some slack
'cause this baby's right on track

the contrast is rich and detailed to a stitch
there's nothing left about which to bitch!

with refresh so fresh there's nothing to fear
from the dread monster of motion smear

geometry so stable it came from a fable
that's what you'd think if it wasn't there on the table

in front of the eyes sits glowing the prize
and even a grown man cries

but what of the cost, the money lost?
my teeth, they haven't been flossed...

time to knock the wall out, it's the natural fallout
of a screen too big to be but a weighty pig

do not wait or strive to berate
the panel will come no matter how late
you must know by now
the market says how
its fate is to fill your plate

Blu-Ray is the way with OLED to stay
soon we will see the dawning of a new day
on with the party the image is hearty!

I dont know what planet you guys are from but I dont think the tv stations will be purchasing any new HD equiptment for a long time. My opinion is that shrinking an image can remain clear while stretching an image will become blury. High resolution doesnt mean anything unless you have an image that is recorded and transfered at that higher bandwidth. I really think 1080P on a 3840 x 2160 QuadHD OLED would look terrible. Not to mention 480, 720, and 1080i would only multiply the problem. The main importance of a great picture is defeating the elements of everyday use and the quality of transfer to the screen. Let them figure that out, cost effectively and in 25yrs will see the next jump in resolution broadcasted.

Disadvantages of OLED
While OLED seems to be, on the surface, the perfect display technology, there are some problems. First of all, even though the red and green LEDs have long lifetimes of 10,000 to 40,000 hours, the blue component suffers high failure rates after about 3,000 – 5,000 hours.

I am so tired of all these beta formats and technologies that do nothing but hurt the end user with quality control and what not. The only current reliable technologies are plasma and LCD. Waiting for the hat trick. :D

I dont know what planet you guys are from but I dont think the tv stations will be purchasing any new HD equiptment for a long time. My opinion is that shrinking an image can remain clear while stretching an image will become blury. High resolution doesnt mean anything unless you have an image that is recorded and transfered at that higher bandwidth. I really think 1080P on a 3840 x 2160 QuadHD OLED would look terrible. Not to mention 480, 720, and 1080i would only multiply the problem. The main importance of a great picture is defeating the elements of everyday use and the quality of transfer to the screen. Let them figure that out, cost effectively and in 25yrs will see the next jump in resolution broadcasted.

Disadvantages of OLED
While OLED seems to be, on the surface, the perfect display technology, there are some problems. First of all, even though the red and green LEDs have long lifetimes of 10,000 to 40,000 hours, the blue component suffers high failure rates after about 3,000 – 5,000 hours.

I am so tired of all these beta formats and technologies that do nothing but hurt the end user with quality control and what not. The only current reliable technologies are plasma and LCD. Waiting for the hat trick. :D

increasing resolution does not make a screen blurry.
increasing screen size makes the screen blurry.

there is a difference ;)

I dont know what planet you guys are from but I dont think the tv stations will be purchasing any new HD equiptment for a long time. My opinion is that shrinking an image can remain clear while stretching an image will become blury. High resolution doesnt mean anything unless you have an image that is recorded and transfered at that higher bandwidth. I really think 1080P on a 3840 x 2160 QuadHD OLED would look terrible. Not to mention 480, 720, and 1080i would only multiply the problem. The main importance of a great picture is defeating the elements of everyday use and the quality of transfer to the screen. Let them figure that out, cost effectively and in 25yrs will see the next jump in resolution broadcasted.

Disadvantages of OLED
While OLED seems to be, on the surface, the perfect display technology, there are some problems. First of all, even though the red and green LEDs have long lifetimes of 10,000 to 40,000 hours, the blue component suffers high failure rates after about 3,000 – 5,000 hours.

I am so tired of all these beta formats and technologies that do nothing but hurt the end user with quality control and what not. The only current reliable technologies are plasma and LCD. Waiting for the hat trick. :D

Luke is right. Increase the size of the screen at the same resolution and you see more blurr. The ideal would be as screens got larger the resolution would increase by the same factor keeping the same general look to it.

I do think that with the pace that the broadcast industry is adopting just the basic HD resolution now, it will be a long, long time before the next jump in resolution is needed.

BTW as Isochroma's threads on the subject have pointed out there are blue LED materials now that will extend the life time of the LED out to over 50K hours, red and green out to 70K hours (I may have read this elsewhere, I do a lot of indutry research). OLED is coming sooner or later.

As I had pointed out before, the conversion from LCD production to OLED production is an easy thing to do in comparison to plasma to LCD. It is probable that OLED and LCD can be ran on the same fab lines, and many producers in the future will have both in the market.

For those of you who need an OLED fix, see this:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,132262-page,1/article.html

Sony may sell you a 27" OLED TV before the year is out. Put four of them together and you have a nice sized display.

increasing resolution does not make a screen blurry.
increasing screen size makes the screen blurry.

there is a difference ;)Don't confuse signal quality with the number of pixels on the panel.

I think Neoison was referring to combination of the two and therefore is correct. Scaling up image resolution degrades image sharpness. Scaling down image resolution does not. This assumes normal size screen and normal viewing distances.

For instance, if you have two (normal sized) displays of equal size and one has 2 million pixels and the other has 8 million pixels, a 1080p signal will look sharper on the screen with 2 million pixels.

This is simple logic :)

We're going to see the media formats like Blue Ray/HDDVD die out just like we've been seeing audio cd's dying and being replaced with digital storage devices to hold our media on. I don't think this will happen for a while but with the advent of on demand and other similar technologies, we're not going to need to store everything on discs anymore. Obviously it will take increases in bandwidth to allow for this to happen but it is inevitable.

We're going to see the media formats like Blue Ray/HDDVD die out just like we've been seeing audio cd's dying and being replaced with digital storage devices to hold our media on. I don't think this will happen for a while but with the advent of on demand and other similar technologies, we're not going to need to store everything on discs anymore. Obviously it will take increases in bandwidth to allow for this to happen but it is inevitable.


It will also mean paying everytime you watch the movie/media. Storing music on a HDD makes perfect sense because music titles are short and a listener often likes to play random tunes without having to get up and down to change discs. But movies are long and no one surfs movies like they do the web or music titles. Putting a disc in and sitting down for 2 hours is typical. Why waste all that storage capacity just to avoid walking to the DVD/HD/BD player and inserting a disc once an evening? And how can you lend a movie (DVD) to a friend or relative when it is on a hard drive with copy protection that prevents you from archiving it to disc? Hollywood loves the idea - me not so much.