I mean SED is sort of related to CRTS. Will you guys get SED or go over to the dark side?(LCD, PDP, LCOS, DLP, etc)?

I mean SED is sort of related to CRTS. Will you guys get SED or go over to the dark side?(LCD, PDP, LCOS, DLP, etc)?
Jack.....
Some time ago someone posted on one of these fora that SED was put on hold....something, I think, to do with patent(s) conflicts betweek Canon and Toshiba (the 2 major firms working on SED technology).....IIRC, there's no telling when -or even IF - SED will hit the (consumer) marketplace...
I WAS looking forward to seeing SED come into vogue; the specs looked mighty impressive...but, as with any new technology, the initial price of SED monitors would likely be cost-prohibitive for all but the select few who could afford "first adopter" high-end equipment (read: "Not me....! :rolleyes: ").
If - and when - SED becomes available at a reasonable cost to the mainstream consumer, I'm really looking to do an upgrade from my 26" 16X9 and 27" 4X3 Sammys....But, for now....I'm not holding my breath....or planning to put a second mortgage on my house.... ;). If LED or DLP technology continues to improve at its current rate (ie., efficiency vs cost), I might be inclined to go that route....but, for now, I'm happy with my (somewhat) small but reliable CRTs....

Yeah,

Unfortunately it looks like SED's are a LONG WAYS AWAY for the average consumer.

If you are looking to upgrade right now, you are better off with an LCD or Plasma.

Or just keep your current CRT. Nothing wrong there either.

SED is essentially, a flat screen CRT.

It marries the best of both worlds, a CRT's black level, color spectrum and viewing angle with a flat panels perfect geometry and thinness.

It represents a revolutionary step in display technology. But sadly, it's not being mass produced now, nor in the foreseeable future. Therefore, its not an option to consider for purchase.


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i'm planning on keeping my xbr970 for 7-8 years. hopefully i will get good service out of it for that length of time. maybe SED will be viable by then. if so, i could see going that way.

Where are FED and CNT tvs? Are they like SED related to CRT technology? Maybe FED tvs could be released sooner than SED?

Where are FED and CNT tvs? Are they like SED related to CRT technology? Maybe FED tvs could be released sooner than SED?

SED/FED are like CRT, but instead of having one large gun to work with like a CRT, SED/FED usues millions of small guns, one for each pixel.

SED is a type of FED display. SED is pretty much on hold, probably for ever. It's been delayed time and time and time again. FED is in the works, but it's probably a long way off since no one can make them affordable. OLED seems to be the thing might might be on store shelves next, but the size will be small at first.

I'm hanging on the my KD-40XBR800 until either 1. SED/FED comes out 2. It actually gives up the ghost or 3. Jesus Comes back. :D

Maybe if SEDs actually become a reallity anytime soon. Basically I'm just waiting for some type of 1080p flat-panel with at least 100,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio.

Who knows if Sed will ever come to the marketplace. Looks like production cost may be too high to make a profit and will flat panel prices dropping, it seems doomed.

There's a lot of excitment about the new generation of Pioneer plasmas coming out this summer. People have said that they really do equal or outperform CRTs in every respect.

SED looks cool, but if they don't fix the issues that currently plague other all fixed pixel displays, it will just be a better looking high def screen. The whole native resolution thing is really a massive thorn in my side. Current flat tvs look pretty good in their native resolutions, but look crappy out of them and have resolution conversion lag. What they should do is make pixels small enough to resolve lower resolutions as well as high and design converting circuitry that can convert resolutions with no stupid lag. I know this is asking too much but I thought we were living in the 21st century.

SED looks cool, but if they don't fix the issues that currently plague other all fixed pixel displays, it will just be a better looking high def screen. The whole native resolution thing is really a massive thorn in my side. Current flat tvs look pretty good in their native resolutions, but look crappy out of them and have resolution conversion lag. What they should do is make pixels small enough to resolve lower resolutions as well as high and design converting circuitry that can convert resolutions with no stupid lag. I know this is asking too much but I thought we were living in the 21st century.

?? Don't know what panels you are looking at but I have zero lag on my Panny plasma and it looks terrific at all HD resolutions.

Why not consider the upcoming "next gen" LCDs with local dimming LED backlights? You'd have the wide color spectrum and perfect blacks in a thin display that will be out this year. I saw the technology at CES last year and was absolutely floored. In a pitch black room and an image of a night sky with fireworks, I literally could not tell where the edges of the display were.

That sounds too good to be true.

That sounds too good to be true.

I would think so too if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes. There is a large thread of people anticipating the screens (due out this Fall, I think) over on the LCD forum. 100,000:1 contrast ratios are almost here.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=788306

Here's a good picture of a Planar with local dimming sitting next to a standard Westinghouse, taken from the above thread.
http://forum.hometheatermag.com/photopost/data/504/Planar_LED_LCD_Prototype_LEFT_2.jpg

Odds are once I loose by beefy Sony, it will be to something with a small enough profile that my entertainment cabient can actually be against the wall.

Wow - that does look impressive.

if my new sony lasts as long as all my previous CRT's, they might perfect flat panels by the time i need to replace it

i bought my panasonic 31" in the early to mid 90s and it's still going and has a stunning picture

i was in circuit city yesterday and they had a 50" panasonic plasma on display

i can't remember the model # but it said "720P" on the tag

i have to say, the picture was nice

but cost and reliablility issues still hold me back

when my new sony dies in about 15-20 years, i'll take a better look at them :)

wow, what are we going to have in 20 years?

?? Don't know what panels you are looking at but I have zero lag on my Panny plasma and it looks terrific at all HD resolutions.

All flat pannels should have zero lag at their native resolutions. HD is not a problem for fixed pixel displays however SD is. The time it takes to convert is not fast enough for video games that run in 480i. I love both guitar heros, and the first one has no lag compensation adjustment like the second one does. Also since it is impossible for fixed pixel displays to display more than just one resolution, they try to compensate for not having the proper pixel size which doesn't look good IMO. Ever switch resolution on an LCD computer monitor to a lower resolution that is not native to the display? It looks terrible. Yeah, I still live in the stone age and don't have a XBOX 360, PS3, or HD DVD/ Blueray. I have an upconverting DVD player that makes my movies look better than just 480P and all my other game systems are 480i, 480p, and Gran Turismo 4 runs in 1080i. If all I had was HD systems I would have waited until LCDs got much better looking or bought a plazma since they seem to have the best picture overall out of all the other technologies. DLP and LCD rear projection tvs aren't bad, but an expensive lamp replacement was not in my budget. I doubt that fixed pixel displays will ever be fully compatable with SD because apparently nobody cares about it anymore but me. It will probably go down like this. If you want to play SD video games, buy a 32 inch CRT SDTV to hook them up to and hook all your HD systems up to your fixed pixel display. Fair enough. However, I only have one sound system right now and I love playing all my games on it. So I probably won't buy one until my current sound setup becomes my secondary one. The XBR970 is not nearly as big as a plazma or LCD and weighs a ton. However it still allows me to have HD and SD with no annoying strings attached.

what is SED ?

what is SED ?
It stands for surface-conduction electron-emitter display.....
It's been a joint venture of Toshiba and Canon for some time now...but, IIRC, there are problems with patent rights and development cost(s)....In a nutshell, it appears - at least on paper and a few prototype displays - that this technology is going to be stalled, and it will likely be quite awhile before we consumers see SEDs on store shelves..... :(