View Full Version : 'No Signal' on HD1000u from PS3 over HDMI...


glxyjones
05-09-07, 08:31 PM
I searched around the forums for this but couldn't find any answers.

I just got my HD1000u projector in to replace my old IN72. I mounted it in the same spot, started it up, and everything looked great. I then tried booting up my PS3 over the HDMI cable and got the dreaded "No Signal" response. I found out how to reset the PS3 back to its original output settings which go through RCA video. The video shows up fine over RCA and I can play with the video out settings. However, when I try to change the output on the PS3 to HDMI, I get nothing. I don't think it's the cable because the IN72 displayed the PS3 fine over the same cable.

Is there something stupid I'm missing? I'm starting to fear it's my HD1000u. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

glxyjones
05-12-07, 02:38 PM
so no one else has had this problem?

glxyjones
05-12-07, 03:22 PM
Ok so update in case any of you are following...

I setup a Directv HD receiver to my projector via the same HDMI cable that the PS3 was connected on. When I switch over to HDMI on the projector, the directv signal comes up with a purple-ish hue for about 2 seconds and then goes immediately to snow. Could it be the HDMI cable being bad and the signal cannot sync up? I don't if the cable was bad if the 2 second screen following by the snow would even show up.

This pretty much negates the PS3 or receiver being faulty, and even though this HDMI cable worked fine on my old projector, maybe the HD1000U requires a higher quality cable? I think the easiest thing will be to go buy a short HDMI cable to see if it works with that.

Any other ideas?

hoogs
05-13-07, 07:02 AM
Can you get anything to display over the HD1000 HDMI? Could be a bad HDMI port on the projector itself. Ive run the PS3, Xbox 360 and Comcast HD box through my HDMI port and have had no issues at all.

glxyjones
05-13-07, 02:44 PM
Both the PS3 and the Directv box won't display correctly through HDMI, those are the only 2 HDMI components I have to try. However, the Directv through HDMI does actually receive a signal although it's all snow. With the PS3 I simply get 'no signal.' I read somewhere the HDCP handshaking over HDMI is a bit tricky with longer HDMI cables. So I bought a new one from monoprice (the one I have now was off of ebay) to see if that fixes the problem. Hopefully, it's not the projector and I simply needed to upgrade my cable.

PS: What's with this supposed "Tech Support" companies are offering these days. I called Directv and their idea of tech support was some lady reading from a screen what the possible issues could be. As soon as I mentioned snow she kep on insisting my tv was not tuned to the right channel since that's what her little computer program told her. Even after I explained to her that projectors do not have tuners and there is no way that is the problem.

hoogs
05-13-07, 04:10 PM
Just for reference I am using a 50' HDMI cable from Monoprice and have had no issues whatsoever

Star56
05-14-07, 03:47 AM
I assume you have setup the PS3 to output through HDMI. You have to do this manually in the video setup menu.

glxyjones
05-14-07, 08:44 AM
Yes, I had to reset the settings back to RCA Component, which works fine on the projector. However, when I try to switch the output settings on the PS3 to HDMI (via the video setup menu) and concurrently switch the projector to HDMI, I get a blue screen with "No Signal."

I will keep you updated on whether the monoprice cables fix the problem.

arbywon
05-14-07, 03:13 PM
I feel for you glxyjones!

New pj and neither of my two hdmi sources (hd Tivo and Samsung TS-160) would display. The Samsung worked fine with my previous pj, now gone. I even moved both sources closer to try some other cables. I couldn't believe it but everything pointed to the pj or BOTH sources having dead hdmi interfaces. I needed to know if the pj was ok because if not, I needed to return it. I used the problem as an excuse to buy an HDDVD. It worked great!

Keep trying combinations until you find something that works and then work back to issolate the pieces that do not. If you can, you might try to borrow a source device and cable from a friend.

Good luck

jdang
05-14-07, 03:25 PM
glxyjones, not sure if you've done this yet, but go ahead and disconnect the rca wires and everything except the HDMI wire between the PS3 and the HD1000u. So to repeat, just have the PS3 hooked up via HDMI to the projector.

With the PS3 off, press the power button but don't let go. Hold the power button for five seconds or so, until you hear a beep. That does a reset/auto setting where it will detect a HDMI device etc.

Have you done this yet?

glxyjones
05-16-07, 07:50 AM
glxyjones, not sure if you've done this yet, but go ahead and disconnect the rca wires and everything except the HDMI wire between the PS3 and the HD1000u. So to repeat, just have the PS3 hooked up via HDMI to the projector.

With the PS3 off, press the power button but don't let go. Hold the power button for five seconds or so, until you hear a beep. That does a reset/auto setting where it will detect a HDMI device etc.

Have you done this yet?

Tried this, no luck. Cables are do in Friday from Monoprice. I'm praying that'll do the trick and the projector isn't broken.

Thanks for the suggestions.

jarppis
02-21-08, 03:26 AM
Where you able to get this to work?

I have the exact same issue with my HD1000 and PS3. I sent the projector to repair, but they said it's working fine. I tried the PS3 at my friend at it was also working fine. As soon as I get the projector back, I need to try it couple of times more to see what could be the problem.

ronep
02-21-08, 11:16 AM
I had the same problem. My fix was to set the PS3 over HDMI to 480P - 1080P. 480I showed a blue screen with no signal. Hope this helps.

jarppis
02-21-08, 02:43 PM
I had the same problem. My fix was to set the PS3 over HDMI to 480P - 1080P. 480I showed a blue screen with no signal. Hope this helps.

Thanks. I Will try this as soon as I get the PJ back.

jarppis
02-26-08, 03:32 AM
I had the same problem. My fix was to set the PS3 over HDMI to 480P - 1080P. 480I showed a blue screen with no signal. Hope this helps.

How did you change that setting? Did you use some other display? Because you have to first enable the HDMI before you can change those settings.

ronep
02-26-08, 12:35 PM
Lets troubleshoot step by step.
The PS3 firmware I'm using now is 2.10.
Can you see the set up screen when connecting with HDMI or is it still blue with no signal?

jarppis
02-26-08, 01:20 PM
Lets troubleshoot step by step.
The PS3 firmware I'm using now is 2.10.
Can you see the set up screen when connecting with HDMI or is it still blue with no signal?

I have the same firmware.

No, I cannot see the HDMI setup screen. When I select "HDMI" (using either component or composite connection) and it gives those 30 secs to see if it works (PJ switched to HDMI) my PJ just show "No signal".

I have tried with different several cables and also tried to reset the settings by keeping the power button pressed down for few seconds. I just confirmed using my PC, that the PJ works ok at least with 720p resolution using HDMI.

The weird thing is, that this used to work without any hassle. Cannot though remember, if it was before 2.10 firmware when it worked.

ronep
02-26-08, 01:51 PM
I had rev 1.8 when this happened. With rev 2.10 options are 480p thru 1080p with HDMI.
I reset everything on the ps3 and went to the default setting. Said it had a hdmi connected. Went into display settings on ps3 and changed accordingly for hdmi. I checked 480p thru 1080p. Worked fine.

jarppis
02-26-08, 01:57 PM
I had rev 1.8 when this happened. With rev 2.10 options are 480p thru 1080p with HDMI.
I reset everything on the ps3 and went to the default setting. Said it had a hdmi connected. Went into display settings on ps3 and changed accordingly for hdmi. I checked 480p thru 1080p. Worked fine.

How did you reset it?

ronep
02-26-08, 02:08 PM
Go to settings on ps3/press restore default settings/press enter/press yes/press playstation button on remote. Follow inastructions on the screen.

ronep
02-26-08, 02:24 PM
Now goto display settings press enter. video output settings follow instructions. Do press custom settings for 1080P resolutions. It should work I hope.

jarppis
02-27-08, 12:19 PM
Now goto display settings press enter. video output settings follow instructions. Do press custom settings for 1080P resolutions. It should work I hope.

Thanks for the information, but still no luck.

I went to a friend today and tried the PJ with a standalone blu-ray player (sony) and it didn't either work. I tried the PS3 with a Sony LCD and it seems to work ok. Then I tried the PJ with a OPPO dvd-player (HDMI) and that worked okay. I do not have possibility to try with other blu-ray devices. So far it looks, that the problem is in the HDCP handshaking.

I just cannot understand, how it could work before and just suddenly stopped to work. Also, different forums are full of people having the same problems with the PS3 with different displays, but still there's not any solution how to fix it.

marjen
02-27-08, 01:57 PM
Has to be something with your cable or the projector itself. I have a Mits 1000U and just got a PS3 and it works fine via HDMI.

jarppis
02-27-08, 02:37 PM
Has to be something with your cable or the projector itself. I have a Mits 1000U and just got a PS3 and it works fine via HDMI.

It's not the cable(s). I have tried with several different cables that for sure works ok.

Well, might need to re-send it back to the repair center... :mad:

jarppis
03-04-08, 11:00 AM
Has to be something with your cable or the projector itself. I have a Mits 1000U and just got a PS3 and it works fine via HDMI.

Could you please check what is the firmware version in your projector? You can check it by pressing arrow up, arrow down and enter at the same time. It will give you a display with some information about the projector. Mine is v. 2.00 and that's the latest according to Mitsubishi repair center. My PS3 is version 2.1.

q3131a
03-04-08, 12:37 PM
Can you try a different cable with a shorter run? Can you make sure the HDMI cable is plugged in exactly straight into both the PS3 and HC4900?

jarppis
03-04-08, 01:38 PM
Can you try a different cable with a shorter run? Can you make sure the HDMI cable is plugged in exactly straight into both the PS3 and HC4900?

I have tried 4 different cables. All different lengths and that works in other systems. I have tried with two PS3's that works with other displays and projectors, but not anymore with mine. And the projector I have is HD1000u, which worked still last year. Cannot really remember if it stopped to work around update to 2.1 (PS3).

EDIT. Will try to see if it's that sensitive to the cable position.