"THIS HDDVD SURROUND MUSIC DISC DELIVERS AN AMAZING 3-DIMENSIONAL SURROUND SOUND EXPERIENCE THROUGH ANY HD DVD PLAYER WITH AN HDMI OR OPTICAL (core only) OUTPUT CONNECTED OR ASSEMBLED WITH DTSHD OR DTS (core only) CAPABLE RECIEVER THE FULL RANGE 5.1 SURROUND SPEAKER SET-UP IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED FOR FULL PERCEPTION OF 3-DIMENSIONAL SOUNDFIELD AND LOW FREQUENCY CHANNEL (LFE) THAT IS VERY CRITICAL FOR THIS RECORD. PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS RECORD WAS ORIGINALLY PRODUCED BY ALEXANDER GOLBERG JERO FOR 5.1 SURROUND SOUND REPRODUCTION TO PROVIDE YOU WITH UNIQUE 3-DIMENSIONAL SURROUND MUSIC EXPERIENCE. "

From the above description it's not at all clear if my HD-XA2 will output proper 5.1 from the 6ch output. I don't have an hdmi receiver.

I'm not clear what core only means.

Did I read right? A musical HD-DVD??? All you need is 5.1? WOW.....I'd love to check this out.

I'm not clear what core only means.

Core only means up to 1.5mbit DTS audio. So yes you will get proper 5.1 output.

Did I read right? A musical HD-DVD??? All you need is 5.1? WOW.....I'd love to check this out.


It is finally should be released on June 15 According to Amazon.

It is finally should be released on June 15 According to Amazon.To the OP....
Patmiller already posted a thread about this several days ago. Check it out for more information and discussion.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=856481&highlight=surround

To the OP....
Patmiller already posted a thread about this several days ago. Check it out for more information and discussion.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=856481&highlight=surround


Thank you very match.

I did not realize that I can just made a link to another thread.

The tread that I started featuring posts about the future of Recorded Music on HD Media , very interesting and some times aggresive discassion covering creative approach and content of this record. different oppinions about adoptations and transcriptions of classical music. You can find out more about the creator of this album, and also note some comments about ethical aspects of activity industry insiders on this forum.

Looks like this particular thread was started with technical question. That is not really covered in my thread. So it is may be a good Idea to continue this tread talking about technical aspects of presentation Music in HD Media.

The Xa2 needs a dts-hd upgrade though to play the material.

The Xa2 needs a dts-hd upgrade though to play the material.

I think so, but not the "core" streem, "core" streem can be played on ANY HD DVD Player.

correct me if I am wrong.

All of our HD DVD players need the firmware upgrade so we can play DTS-HD. Most of the HD DVD's published overseas in Europe include the DTS-HD MA track. Now it is a race of who will come out with the first firmware upgrade or player that has this feature. Most of the high end A/V receivers that will be coming out this summer will have the capability of decoding DTHD and DTS-HD. So now we are just waiting on the players.

If Uncommon Bach is authored in standard content mode, the DTS-HD bitstream can be sent by the Toshiba HD-XA2 over HDMI 1.3 to a DTS-HD capable receiver such as the Onkyo 605.

If Uncommon Bach is authored in advanced content mode, the DTS-HD bitstream can be sent by the Toshiba HD-XA2 with the next September firmware upgrade allowing Dolby TrueHD / DTS-HD Master Audio bitstreams over HDMI 1.3.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10592244&&#post10592244

If Uncommon Bach is authored in advanced content mode, the DTS-HD stream can be decoded by a Toshiba HD-DVD player with a next firmware upgrade allowing DTS-HD decoding.

Is it true that this disc is all synthesizer and no real orchestra? I was thinking of getting it, but if this is true I will pass.

Is it true that this disc is all synthesizer and no real orchestra? I was thinking of getting it, but if this is true I will pass.Dunno if anyone's heard it but this is the track listing from another thread:

Just got reply e-mail from label:

1. BWV208, Was mir behagt, ist nur die muntre Jagd!
2. BWV1, Wie schön leuchtet der ******stern, No.3 Aria
3. BWV5, Wo soll ich fliehen hin, No.1 Chorus
4. BWV10, Meine Seel' erhebet den Herren!, No.1 Chorus
5. BWV33, Allein zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ, No.1 Choral
6. BWV225, Singet dem Herrn ein neues Lied, No.1 Singet dem Herrn
7. BWV525, Trio Sonata No.1 in Eb, No.1 Allegro
8. BWV530, Trio Sonata No.6, No. 1 Vivace
9. BWV592, Concerto in G, No.1 Allegro Assai
10. BWV812, French Suite, No.1 in D
11. BWV831, French Overture, No.3 Gavotte

And this is the link:http://www.amazon.com/Uncommon-Bach-Experience-3-Dimensional-Surround/dp/B000Q6GWOQ******pd_bbs_sr_1/002-3770960-4637666?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1180990613&sr=8-1 (http://)

So, you might miss the voices, as well.

Is it true that this disc is all synthesizer and no real orchestra? I was thinking of getting it, but if this is true I will pass.

From everything posted in description I would say it is a combination of both.

So, you might miss the voices, as well.

In The Description clearly pointing and written: TRANSCRIPTION.

TRANSCRIPTION: Means application of ORIGINAL BACH partiture to new instruments.

According to this description it can not miss any vocies.

From everything posted in description I would say it is a combination of both.It would be nice if anyone who has heard this man's work on this or on his other discs could comment on the musical peformances.

It would be nice if anyone who has heard this man's work on this or on his other discs could comment on the musical peformances.

Kal, we have been through that with you in previouse thread.

Proffecional Media is already awarded and recornized that this is a new visionary of music in surround sound.

That part of it you personally don't understand?

Most people don't go to the forums and post opinions on-line

But this is that I found Searcing about JERO in this Forum and my oppinion about it:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10729490#post10729490


For EveryBody Else:

JERO in not featuring his own music in this Album.

THIS IS BACH, REAL BACH.

JERO is just a right producer and artist for the task.

Core only means up to 1.5mbit DTS audio. So yes you will get proper 5.1 output.


As I Understand Core streem can be decoded now on any HD DVD player.

Is that righ?

Kal, we have been through that with you in previouse thread.

Proffecional Media is already awarded and recornized that this is a new visionary of music in surround sound.

That part of it you personally don't understand?

Most people don't go to the forums and post opinions on-line

But this is that I found Searcing about JERO in this Forum and my oppinion about it:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10729490#post10729490


For EveryBody Else:

JERO in not featuring his own music in this Album.

THIS IS BACH, REAL BACH.

JERO is just a right producer and artist for the task.

The reference you offer does not seem to support your contention that "THIS IS BACH, REAL BACH."

Of course, you are entitled to say what you like but all you do is quote others. I see no indication that you have heard this. Have you? If yes, what did you hear? If not, why do you blather so much about it?

The reference you offer does not seem to support your contention that "THIS IS BACH, REAL BACH."

Of course, you are entitled to say what you like but all you do is quote others. I see no indication that you have heard this. Have you? If yes, what did you hear? If not, why do you blather so much about it?


Do you understand the difference between original composition, arrengement and TRANSCRIPTION? ( it's stated in description)

Everybody who go to music school will understand.
Everibody but you. Sorry. :D

The current players decode DTS-HD as core DTS (aka legacy DTS).

Also, there is really no such thing as DTS-HD. It is a blanket term that includes legacy DTS on hi-def discs, DTS-HD HRA, and DTS-HD MA.

You can look this up on the DTS website. On a hidef disc you can get:

DTS (which is legacy DTS)
DTS-HD High Resolution Audio
DTS-HD Master Audio

There are only 2 new codecs...not 3.

Just wanted to clear that up. It seems people think that DTS-HD is also a codec, but it is not. Therefore, the Tosh will decode whichever DTS codec it is as core legacy DTS currently. That is until the fw upgrade which enables HRA and MA decoding :)

Does DTS core embeded or it is a separate streem?

Actually that I asking does this disc needs additional set-up options selected in system menu of a player to Decode DTS-HD or it should just play buy itself?

Do you understand the difference between original composition, arrengement and TRANSCRIPTION? ( it's stated in description)

Everybody who go to music school will understand.
Everibody but you. Sorry. :DHere's what I understand. You continue to twitter on about this but when asked if you have ever heard it or, indeed, anything by Mr. Jero, you change the subject. Instead you criticise me for asking about the content and make stupid, irrelevant and ignorant statements about me and my knowledge. I have nothing against this (which I have yet to hear) but I am pissed off by your behavior.

Clearly, you have some kind of agenda about promoting this release which you do not reveal. So, I ask you, have you heard this? Why are you acting like a silly fanboy about it?

Here's what I understand. You continue to twitter on about this but when asked if you have ever heard it or, indeed, anything by Mr. Jero, you change the subject. Instead you criticise me for asking about the content and make stupid, irrelevant and ignorant statements about me and my knowledge. I have nothing against this (which I have yet to hear) but I am pissed off by your behavior.

Clearly, you have some kind of agenda about promoting this release which you do not reveal. So, I ask you, have you heard this? Why are you acting like a silly fanboy about it?


aw come on,
It was a jock, I have nothing againt you personally. :)
But if you did know that this means (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcription_(music)) and reed the description of title you would not ask all this questions. Nobody asking about that anymore, only you. I am a music major and just answering questions I can answer ( as I started this subject)and asking that I don't know. This is just fun for me.
I order couple titles by JERO, cant wait to get it.

You claim yourself as a professional journalist, what are you doing here on saturday, talking to me? :confused:

aw come on,
It was a jock, I have nothing againt you personally. :)
But if you did know that this means (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcription_(music)) and reed the description of title you would not ask all this questions. Nobody asking about that anymore, only you. I am a music major and just answering questions I can answer ( as I started this subject)and asking that I don't know. This is just fun for me.
I order couple titles by JERO, cant wait to get it.

You claim yourself as a professional journalist, what are you doing here on saturday, talking to me? :confused:Same old, same old. Bye.

Good bye, Kal.

But I had a question here:



Does DTS core embeded or it is a separate streem?

Actually that I asking does this disc needs additional set-up options selected in system menu of a player to Decode DTS-HD or it should just play buy itself?

For $29.00 I get synthesized music in 5.1 1.5M DTS (or DTS HD MA at some TBD future date) and NO video ??? I'd get better value with the boatload of Multichannel DVD-As and SACDs which are still out there.

I'm all for music audio on HD formats, but I want the Hi-def video as well. E.g. "Chris Botti Live" which includes an AVC HD video AND an uncompressed 5.1 24/96 soundtrack and a $19.95 price tag. This is the type of music video release I'm hoping to start seeing on HD formats.

For $29.00 I get synthesized music in 5.1 1.5M DTS (or DTS HD MA at some TBD future date) and NO video ??? I'd get better value with the boatload of Multichannel DVD-As and SACDs which are still out there.

I'm all for music audio on HD formats, but I want the Hi-def video as well. E.g. "Chris Botti Live" which includes an AVC HD video AND an uncompressed 5.1 24/96 soundtrack and a $19.95 price tag. This is the type of music video release I'm hoping to start seeing on HD formats.


Thank you for pointing out on "Chris Botti Live" should check this out.

Price of "Uncommon Bach" on Amazon is 19.95 as well, but DTS 24/96 and DTS-HD are not the same DTS 24/96 is 1500bps DTS-HD is Lossless. And this particular titles is as I see transcripted and produced for High Definition Descrete Surround Sound so named " 3-Dimensional Sound Reality" that I think make it more interesting.

By the way (Industry People check this out) Amazon Sales Rating pre-order numbers speeking for yourself, I just looked, "Uncommon Bach" outbeating almost every Music concert title. So I think people are spoken. :)

Thank you for pointing out on "Chris Botti Live" should check this out.

Price of "Uncommon Bach" on Amazon is 19.95 as well, but DTS 24/96 and DTS-HD are not the same DTS 24/96 is 1500bps DTS-HD is Lossless. And this particular titles is as I see transcripted and produced for High Definition Descrete Surround Sound so named " 3-Dimensional Sound Reality" that I think make it more interesting.

By the way (Industry People check this out) Amazon Sales Rating pre-order numbers speeking for yourself, I just looked, "Uncommon Bach" outbeating almost every Music concert title. So I think people are spoken. :)

UNcommon Bach's 1.5Mbs DTS core (playable with almost all non-HDMI capable receivers) is definitely lossy. "Uncommon Bach" DTS HD MA is lossless (in theory) could be anything from 1.5 to 18 MBps and requires a DTS HD MA decoder (doesn't exist yet on current players). The DTS spec allows a lot of "latitude for hype" where everyone can claim their software/hardware is "DTS HD" even though it can only support the DTS core 1.5 Mbps soundtrack.

Chris Botti is uncompressed PCM 24/96 at 13.8 mbps with AVC hi-def (but "only" 1080i) video (this would be the equivalent of DVD-A with 5.1 MLP soundtrack except for the lack of video with DVD-A). I haven't heard it yet but I'm considering ordering it to check it out. Oh yeah, you'll need a Blu-Ray player...

It'll be interesting to see if an HD-DVD with 5.1 24/96 soundtrack (uncompressed/TrueHD or DTS HD MA), with hi-def video will ever appear.... :)

Good bye, Kal.

But I had a question here:AFAIK, there is no consumer player on the market now that will decode the DTS-HD MA (lossless) signal. Most will extract only the core DTS (lossy) signal. See discussion here: http://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/showthread.php?p=62627&highlight=Uncommon+bach#post62627

(Happy to respond on a substantive matter.)

UNcommon Bach's 1.5Mbs DTS core (playable with almost all non-HDMI capable receivers) is definitely lossy. "Uncommon Bach" DTS HD MA is lossless (in theory) could be anything from 1.5 to 18 MBps and requires a DTS HD MA decoder (doesn't exist yet on current players). The DTS spec allows a lot of "latitude for hype" where everyone can claim their software/hardware is "DTS HD" even though it can only support the DTS core 1.5 Mbps soundtrack.

Chris Botti is uncompressed PCM 24/96 at 13.8 mbps with AVC hi-def (but "only" 1080i) video (this would be the equivalent of DVD-A with 5.1 MLP soundtrack except for the lack of video with DVD-A). I haven't heard it yet but I'm considering ordering it to check it out. Oh yeah, you'll need a Blu-Ray player...

It'll be interesting to see if an HD-DVD with 5.1 24/96 soundtrack (uncompressed/TrueHD or DTS HD MA), with hi-def video will ever appear.... :)


COOL, :) ( watch out people THERE IS A WAR going on :D )

Everybody who have a Blu-ray should check Chris Botti out. It is look like this titles
are the winners in each format.

Uncommon Bach is more about how music can be presented in Surround Sound in
the future. And people are interested more to have a new experience then just to
watch some video. People who interested in HD Video Buy movies in HD. This title
is about new music experience.

COOL, :) ( watch out people THERE IS A WAR going on :D )

Everybody who have a Blu-ray should check Chris Botti out. It is look like this titles
are the winners in each format.

Uncommon Bach is more about how music can be presented in Surround Sound in
the future. And people are interested more to have a new experience then just to
watch some video. People who interested in HD Video Buy movies in HD. This title
is about new music experience.

What's new about this "music experience" that hasn't already been tried with DVD-A, SACD, or even DVD-V music videos ?

Just want to poit out one more time that Amazon Rating pre-order numbers for Uncommon Bach among HD DVD Concert Music Titles are the best. So people are interested in 3-Dimension Sound Reality Music as well as concert videos in HD.

What's new about this "music experience" that hasn't already been tried with DVD-A, SACD, or even DVD-V music videos ?


Not Really:

This is from title description:
"To achieve this new sonic perception each instrument was placed in particular position around the listener creating unique 3-Dimensional Music Experience."

I hope that we will get classical music on high definition media but not like this! :eek: Classical music produced on a synthesizer without real artists playing is without artistic value. :mad: This production looks to me to be a gimmick for manipulating sound effects or testing equipment and I don't expect serious classical music lovers to get excited about this at all. And are we going to hear synthesized voices (meaning parts of the chorus)? This is a non-starter.

I don't care for the middle-of-the-ensemble-surrounded-by-instruments approach either but if it were made by real musicians I might be prepared to consider it.

A 5.1 set-up is really mainly two-dimensional because all the speakers can roughly be fitted in an imaginery plane.

On the technical side, based on the info given here:
With lossless PCM, why the need for TruHD/DTS-HD MA? (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=832787)
#7


LPCM
2 hours @ 5.1 16/48 LPCM = 4.14 Gbytes @ 4.6 Mbps (used on most Blu-ray titles with LPCM)
2 hours @ 7.1 16/48 LPCM = 5.52 Gbytes @ 6.13 Mbps
2 hours @ 5.1 24/48 LPCM = 6.21 Gbytes @ 6.9 Mbps (used on Disney Blu-ray titles with BD50 + AVC)
3 hours @ 5.1 24/48 LPCM = 9.32 Gbytes @ 6.9 Mbps
2 hours @ 7.1 24/48 LPCM = 8.28 Gbytes @ 9.2 Mbps
3 hours @ 7.1 24/48 LPCM = 12.42 Gbytes @ 9.2 Mbps
2 hours @ 7.1 24/96 LPCM = 16.56 Gbytes @ 18.4 Mbps
3 hours @ 7.1 24/96 LPCM = 24.84 Gbytes @ 18.4 Mbps

Dolby TrueHD (comparable to DTS-HD MA)
2 hours @ 5.1 16/48 TrueHD = 1.26 Gbytes @ 1.4 Mbps ABR (used on Warner HD-DVD releases)
2 hours @ 5.1 24/48 TrueHD = 3.06 Gbytes @ 3.4 Mbps ABR (used on recent HD-DVD releases from Universal)
3 hours @ 5.1 24/48 TrueHD = 4.59 Gbytes @ 3.4 Mbps ABR
2 hours @ 7.1 24/48 TrueHD = 4.23 Gbytes @ 4.7 Mbps ABR
3 hours @ 7.1 24/48 TrueHD = 6.35 Gbytes @ 4.7 Mbps ABR



less than one hour of 5.1 24/48 LPCM only takes up about 3 GB of space or less without video and even less with compression and I see no particular reason to use compression. So on a 30GB HD DVD disc about 90% is unused.

By the way, the ****** in the quoted playlist stands for M-o-r-g-e-n without the dash marks. :rolleyes:

I hope that we will get classical music on high definition media but not like this! :eek: Classical music produced on a synthesizer without real artists playing is without artistic value. :mad: This production looks to me to be a gimmick for manipulating sound effects or testing equipment and I don't expect serious classical music lovers to get excited about this at all. And are we going to hear synthesized voices (meaning parts of the chorus)? This is a non-starter.

I don't care for the middle-of-the-ensemble-surrounded-by-instruments approach either but if it were made by real musicians I might be prepared to consider it.

A 5.1 set-up is really mainly two-dimensional because all the speakers can roughly be fitted in an imaginery plane.

On the technical side, based on the info given here:
With lossless PCM, why the need for TruHD/DTS-HD MA? (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=832787)
#7



less than one hour of 5.1 24/48 LPCM only takes up about 3 GB of space or less without video and even less with compression and I see no particular reason to use compression. So on a 30GB HD DVD disc about 90% is unused.

By the way, the ****** in the quoted playlist stands for M-o-r-g-e-n without the dash marks. :rolleyes:



OK, OPINION NOTED. :)

BUT YOU ARE IN MINORITY MY FRIEND.
PRE SALES NUMBERS ARE OUT AND PEOPLE ARE SPOKEN. :p

( you know honestly who is really going to say "A 5.1 set-up is really mainly two-dimensional because all the speakers can roughly be fitted in an imaginery plane." :D

And in terms of performing BACH by synthesizers ( however this titles stating both
classical instruments and syntheszers") this is not the first approach, musicsians all around the world treading this with respect:

This is reference to Famouse Wendy Carlos Project:
http://www.wendycarlos.com/+sob.html

Classical music produced on a synthesizer without real artists playing is without artistic value. :eek:

Uhmm, even if it is using synthesizer, you do realize that the synth is still played by HUMAN right? Other artists such as Wendy Carlos (me included) performed LIVE for their recordings. The only difference is instead of playing on a (say) harpsichord) we play on a synth.

A view like the above is very myopic and arrogant. It clearly shows the lack of konwledge in the actual music production and performance of synthesizer music. You think just because it's played on a synth, suddenly it requires less musicianship? :rolleyes:

Not Really:

This is from title description:
"To achieve this new sonic perception each instrument was placed in particular position around the listener creating unique 3-Dimensional Music Experience."

Another euphemism for aggressive surround mixes ? The only thing possibly unique about this is trying to take music composed for use with specific instruments (e.g. string instrument) and "make do" with synthesizers. That bit about having music "pingponging" out of all channels has been tried (e.g. Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon"on 5.1 SACD, ELPs "Brain Salad Surgery on 5.1 DVD-A). But even there, the original authors probably had surround sound in mind for some of their artwork. I doubt this is the case with Bach.

I don't specifically recall anyone using the rear channels for anything other "ambiance creation" for classical music, but I could be wrong. This could be a dubious first - pingponging chamber music.

Do they use height channels ? If not, this really isn't a 3-D recording. Most 5.1 recordings assume speaker placement at the same height.

I don't specifically recall anyone using the rear channels for anything other "ambiance creation" for classical music, but I could be wrong. This could be a dubious first - pingponging chamber music.



You actually make me think more about that :rolleyes:

To hear poliphony of Bach to be spread by voices in 3-dimensional perspective:
That is probably mean in discription "Transcripted in 3-Dimensional Sound Reality"(as well as new instruments)!!! HOW MAGNIFICIENT THAT SOUND SHOULD BE!!!


YOU REALLY MAKE ME WANT IT MORE, CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR. :)

Not Really:

This is from title description:
"To achieve this new sonic perception each instrument was placed in particular position around the listener creating unique 3-Dimensional Music Experience."You should check out the TaceT SACDs/DVD-As which have had this feature for years.

I don't specifically recall anyone using the rear channels for anything other "ambiance creation" for classical music, but I could be wrong. This could be a dubious first - pingponging chamber music. Well, back in the quadraphonic days this was common. More recently, Naxos did this with a Vivaldi concerto for two orchestras. Also, as I mentioned, elsewhere, Tacet has been doing this for years. Their recordings use imaginative microphone/channel placements and, while some are just strange, others are outstanding. Try their Bach Motets or their Mendelssohn Octet!

Finally, there are a few works, as most will know, that were written with spatial effects that could not be recreated with 2channel stereo. Some Mahler symphonies require off-stage instruments and the Berlioz Requiem calls for surrounding brass bands. Try the Norrington/Hanssler SACD: Hair-raising.

You should check out the TaceT SACDs/DVD-As which have had this feature for years.

I dont think so, but may be it's worth to check this out.

I dont think so, but may be it's worth to check this out.You should. Of course, using real instruments, TaceT may not have as much freedom as you expect.

Well, back in the quadraphonic days this was common. More recently, Naxos did this with a Vivaldi concerto for two orchestras. Also, as I mentioned, elsewhere, Tacet has been doing this for years. Their recordings use imaginative microphone/channel placements and, while some are just strange, others are outstanding. Try their Bach Motets or their Mendelssohn Octet!

Finally, there are a few works, as most will know, that were written with spatial effects that could not be recreated with 2channel stereo. Some Mahler symphonies require off-stage instruments and the Berlioz Requiem calls for surrounding brass bands. Try the Norrington/Hanssler SACD: Hair-raising.



I think here you are absolutly right, only with this record they made this effect match more significant. Now I think that can explain use of synthesizers and virtual instrument becouse significant experience like that can only be created in virtual domain to achive real separation of voices to showcase 3-dimensional Poliphony in case of Bach.

Back to the Subject:

I think here you are absolutly right, only with this record they made this effect match more significant. Now I think that can explaine use of synthesizers and virtual instruments becouse significant experience like that can only be created in virtual domain to achive real separation of voices to showcase 3-dimensional Poliphony in case of Bach.


OK, I would say lets end this tread so it is not look like promotion.

I authored this title (It is Advanced Content) and let me tell you when I did my first test disc I was blown away by the clarity of DTS-HD. We will be doing many more titles with DTS-HD in the upcomming months. We fully support HD-DVD and hope that the AVS forum will be a good friend to HD Post Consulting.

Thank you all! :)

Http://www.HDPostConsulting.com

"Uncommon Bach" Ships Now From Amazon.

I authored this title (It is Advanced Content) and let me tell you when I did my first test disc I was blown away by the clarity of DTS-HD. We will be doing many more titles with DTS-HD in the upcomming months. We fully support HD-DVD and hope that the AVS forum will be a good friend to HD Post Consulting.

Thank you all! :)

Http://www.HDPostConsulting.com

Seriously? :) I only sampled a few tracks last night but the purchase (and the agonizing two-month wait for Amazon to ship) was really worth it! :)

I authored this title (It is Advanced Content) and let me tell you when I did my first test disc I was blown away by the clarity of DTS-HD. We will be doing many more titles with DTS-HD in the upcomming months. We fully support HD-DVD and hope that the AVS forum will be a good friend to HD Post Consulting.

Thank you all! :)

Http://www.HDPostConsulting.com

Can you tell us about the audio bit rate? Is this DTS-HD HR? Thanks! :)

Info for DTS-HD MA and DTS-HD HR from DTS website:

DTS-HD Master Audio is capable of delivering audio that is a bit-for-bit identical to the studio master. DTS-HD Master Audio delivers audio at super high variable bit rates -24.5 mega-bits per second (Mbps) on Blu-ray discs and 18.0 Mbps on HD-DVD - that are significantly higher than standard DVDs . This bit stream is so "fast" and the transfer rate is so "high" that it can deliver the Holy Grail of audio: 7.1 audio channels at 96k sampling frequency/24 bit depths that are identical to the original. With DTS-HD Master Audio, you will be able to experience movies and music, exactly as the artist intended: clear, pure, and uncompromised.

DTS-HD High Resolution Audio can deliver up to 7.1 channels of sound that is virtually indistinguishable from the original. DTS-HD High Resolution Audio delivers audio at high constant bit rates superior to standard DVDs---6.0 Mbps on Blu-ray discs and 3.0 Mbps on HD-DVD to produce outstanding sound quality. It is capable of delivering up to 7.1 channels at 96k sampling frequency/24 bit depth resolution. It allows content creators to deliver rich, high definition audio on movies where disc space may not allow for DTS-HD Master Audio.

It would be nice if anyone who has heard this man's work on this or on his other discs could comment on the musical peformances.
Kal, I have bought this HD-DVD. I was a bit disappointed because I thought the disc features synthesized sounds combined with real organ music. As far as I can tell, all of it is electronic music / synthesized. From the surround effect the disc sounds good, but I missed the natural sound of real instruments. But taste is a personal thing, and some might find it attractive.

Kal, I have bought this HD-DVD. I was a bit disappointed because I thought the disc features synthesized sounds combined with real organ music. As far as I can tell, all of it is electronic music / synthesized. From the surround effect the disc sounds good, but I missed the natural sound of real instruments. But taste is a personal thing, and some might find it attractive.

I think you right that probably the matter of taste. I am personally found it's sound
more conservative that I expected compere to Wendy Carlos concertos, allot of voices played by flutes, harp, horns.

However this is another tread specifically about that:
Uncommon Bach Review (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=868153)

This is just my opinion and a bit off topic but I can totally see HD DVD Audios taking over the place for DVD-A if implemented properly. I'm not a big classical fan (all though I do appreciate it) but, I may be willing to give this a spin to see the technical ideas involved. The biggest Difference and Benefit to having HD DVD-A Taking over DVD-A is that you could throw it on a SL-15 and Not have to worry about having to get a Player Spcifically designed to play them. It's probably a Dream though.

This is just my opinion and a bit off topic but I can totally see HD DVD Audios taking over the place for DVD-A if implemented properly. I'm not a big classical fan (all though I do appreciate it) but, I may be willing to give this a spin to see the technical ideas involved. The biggest Difference and Benefit to having HD DVD-A Taking over DVD-A is that you could throw it on a SL-15 and Not have to worry about having to get a Player Spcifically designed to play them. It's probably a Dream though.

No, this is not off topic, this is a hole point to talk about that, the major importance of this release that it will bring the new generation of Surround Music Titles on HD Media as the next generation of music experience. That why I think it deserve that match of attention and support.