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n0friends
05-15-07, 09:38 AM
http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2007/05/15/hd-dvd-auto-update-5-07.aspx

Went live last night, dont know if you guys knew about it.
Heres the breakdown.

HD DVD Auto Update

If you have an Xbox 360 HD DVD player, you’ll be prompted for an auto update the next time you watch an HD DVD movie (and your are signed into Xbox Live.)

Here are some improvements you’ll notice after the update:

Added option for user to select from the following audio output formats via TOSLINK or HDMI:
o Digital Stereo (2 channel PCM)
o Dolby Digital 5.1
o DTS 5.1
o WMA Pro
Added "Dynamic Range Control" toggle for digital audio output
Improved HD DVD networking support
Improved HD DVD title compatibility
Improved performance with MPEG-4 AVC / H.264
1080p via HDMI is supported on the Xbox 360 Elite with HDCP compliant displays
Improved parental controls

halfsane
05-15-07, 10:56 AM
i can say that the audio is greatly improved and that DVE works correctly now

those are the only problems i have had with the add on and they are solved! :)

MidnightWatcher
05-15-07, 10:58 AM
This is a fantastic update. Kudos to Microsoft for their hard work!

hurleyjj
05-15-07, 11:13 AM
Yes, this is great news.

I read about it just a few minutes ago on kotaku.com

I'm going to try it out in another couple of minutes.

I'm very excited about the output to DTS. My receiver doesn't do anything but DD 5.1 and DTS 5.1 since it's a few years old and I refuse to upgrade considering the price of my home theater altogether was around $2,000 and it still sounds excellent.

I never understood why there was no DTS in HD-DVD anyway. Why does HD-DVD rely so heavily on DD 5.1 when DTS 5.1 is clearly better? I don't get it...

shepP
05-15-07, 11:22 AM
Is their a way to dl this and burn it to disc? I still can't find a link to download the spring update. I only have dial up at work and would rather not drag in my 360...

SickNic
05-15-07, 11:23 AM
I got the update this morning. DVE works fine now, but Relentless Enemies still can't be read :mad: I am upset now, because it's far to late to return the movie. Any thoughts Chris or Amir? Has MS tested this movie with the new update? I am wondering if I actually recieved a defective disc, or if it's a problem with the HD-DVD add on.

hurleyjj
05-15-07, 11:24 AM
Call me an idiot but I've updated and can't find any way to output any HD-DVD in DTS like we're supposed to be able to do.

If I go to console settings and then audio I've got Stereo / Dolby Digital / and WMA Pro options, sure, but no DTS one.

I'm upset. What am I missing? I've got my 360 playing via Monster Component video to my 1080p tv (yes, playing in 1080p too) and the optical digital audio cable to my receiver.

If someone can figure out what's wrong and why I can't get the DTS output option, thanks in advance!

dantyr
05-15-07, 11:31 AM
when you see a hd-dvd movie press RB and a info comes up...

hurleyjj
05-15-07, 11:37 AM
when you see a hd-dvd movie press RB and a info comes up...

Thanks...

I never used my controller for playback but always my media remotes.

I suppose it was too much trouble for MS to put the DTS option in the dashboard. Maybe they will with the next update.

:)

hurleyjj
05-15-07, 11:38 AM
BTW, why is my Dynamic Range Control set to off? Should I have it set to on?

BlackMR2
05-15-07, 11:47 AM
off is what you want and the auto setting is correct

anyone tested if the nine inch nails hd-dvd audio is now sweet and crackle free?
i wanna buy it but want someone to confirm

MichaelHDDVD
05-15-07, 11:50 AM
http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2007/05/15/hd-dvd-auto-update-5-07.aspx

Went live last night, dont know if you guys knew about it.
Heres the breakdown.

HD DVD Auto Update

If you have an Xbox 360 HD DVD player, you’ll be prompted for an auto update the next time you watch an HD DVD movie (and your are signed into Xbox Live.)

Here are some improvements you’ll notice after the update:

Added option for user to select from the following audio output formats via TOSLINK or HDMI:
o Digital Stereo (2 channel PCM)
o Dolby Digital 5.1
o DTS 5.1
o WMA Pro
Added "Dynamic Range Control" toggle for digital audio output
Improved HD DVD networking support
Improved HD DVD title compatibility
Improved performance with MPEG-4 AVC / H.264
1080p via HDMI is supported on the Xbox 360 Elite with HDCP compliant displays
Improved parental controls

I'm confused, I didn't think toslink had the bandwidth for PCM

haulin oats
05-15-07, 11:53 AM
perfect post for the hardware forum!

McDermotX
05-15-07, 11:53 AM
I'm confused, I didn't think toslink had the bandwidth for PCM

Similar to PS3 BD when used with optical........2 channel PCM only

MichaelHDDVD
05-15-07, 11:55 AM
Similar to PS3 BD when used with optical........2 channel PCM only

ohh ok so theres enough bandwidth for 2 channel PCM. Gotcha :)

Tes7769
05-15-07, 12:09 PM
This update made a great piece of hardware outstanding.I wasn't expecting them to add all the new features and options they did, especially with all the new sound options.

1080P looks OUT OF THIS WORLD via one of the new 360 Elite's let me tell you.It easily rivals the image on my A20.

MichaelHDDVD
05-15-07, 12:13 PM
Now all we have to do is continue the battle with the BDA over the information war :(

BDA: HD DVD cant do 1080p
People who know how to read: Yes it does, stfu!

tsyoo
05-15-07, 01:22 PM
[QUOTE=hurleyjj]Call me an idiot but I've updated and can't find any way to output any HD-DVD in DTS like we're supposed to be able to do.
QUOTE]

Press "Display" button on remote while watching movie. It will bring OSD.

BFJ 96
05-15-07, 01:48 PM
[QUOTE=hurleyjj]Call me an idiot but I've updated and can't find any way to output any HD-DVD in DTS like we're supposed to be able to do.


Press "Display" button on remote while watching movie. It will bring OSD.

I would say use your 360 remote to bring up HD DVD Menu. With a MOVIE in your HD DVD Drive hit the "B" button on your controller. The HD DVD Menu will pop-up. Select ADVANCE. Then scroll the options until you get "Audio Options" hit select 7 make your changes...

Hope this helps

Degenerazn
05-15-07, 03:04 PM
Does the audio sound better through Optical or Analog?

Sorax
05-15-07, 03:17 PM
off is what you want and the auto setting is correct

anyone tested if the nine inch nails hd-dvd audio is now sweet and crackle free?
i wanna buy it but want someone to confirm
Tested Beside You In Time this morning and it sounded great in TrueHD. Go ahead and buy, its an incredible disc.

MichaelHDDVD
05-15-07, 03:27 PM
Does the audio sound better through Optical or Analog?

imo, both

dinb
05-15-07, 03:28 PM
Tested Beside You In Time this morning and it sounded great in TrueHD. Go ahead and buy, its an incredible disc.

Guys, can the 360 HD-DVD stretch the picture to fill a 16:9 screen even if the movie itself is not 16:9? For example, King Kong is not 16:9 so there are black bars on top and bottom. I looked in the menu but couldn't get it to stretch the way you can with regular DVDs :( Is there a way to zoom?

Thx

Claw97000
05-15-07, 04:01 PM
Hey, just a side note...it says in the on screen display that "these audio option only pertain to HD DVD's, for other audio options goto audio in XBOX dashboard" or something like that....so I took it to mean that I could only get DTS with the update thru HD DVD's, but I put in a SD disk I knew had 6.1 discreet DTS (LOTR: Fellowship of the Rings) and low an behold, my AVR 240 receiver clear as day said DTS was being received, WOOHOO!!!

pkde
05-15-07, 04:04 PM
Guys, can the 360 HD-DVD stretch the picture to fill a 16:9 screen even if the movie itself is not 16:9? For example, King Kong is not 16:9 so there are black bars on top and bottom. I looked in the menu but couldn't get it to stretch the way you can with regular DVDs :( Is there a way to zoom?

Thx

The reason is that DVDs were normally encoded anamorphic, that means the picture was stretched on the DVD and subsequently was unstretched by the DVD-Player in order to output the correct aspect ratio.
Since High Definition doesnt need be encoded anamorphic, for HD is always 16:9. Thus the picture is stored on the disc in the correct aspect ratio.

For you that means that there is no way the Xbox can stretch the picture.
You habe to look in you TV settings, maybe there is a approach to do that.

I don't understand how one can watch a movie with actors having egg-heads, for instance. :confused:

r_hill
05-15-07, 04:08 PM
BTW, why is my Dynamic Range Control set to off? Should I have it set to on?

That would then limit the dynamic range, which is the "night mode" bug that this update fixes. Leave it "off" if you want full dynamic range, turn it "on" if you're watching a movie while somebody's asleep in the house... :D

pkde
05-15-07, 04:21 PM
buy some 5.1 headphones instead, but leave the night mode off

r_hill
05-15-07, 04:25 PM
buy some 5.1 headphones instead, but leave the night mode off

That works also..... :D

ileff
05-15-07, 05:09 PM
>>can the 360 HD-DVD stretch the picture to fill a 16:9 screen

even if it could, you don't want to do it. you want to see the movie as the director intended and aspect ratio is part of that.

edit:

you may be concerned that you are losing some resolution or viewable area, get a larger 1080p display.

Yumbo
05-15-07, 09:52 PM
RELENTLESS ENEMIES - not updated.

vanilla rice
05-16-07, 12:20 AM
unfortunately no quicktime 5.1 either :P not that that has anything to do with HDDVD... i'm just saying.

CrisisDog
05-16-07, 12:31 AM
Okay, I ran the update this evening...

THE GOOD NEWS: It seems the audio sync issues are gone. Of all my discs, the worst place I noticed this issue was during the rooftop scene in "The Departed" toward the end of the movie, where they were yelling obscenities at each other. Tested it with both DD 5.1 and DTS, looked like the audio was sync'd up to me. Yay!

THE BAD NEWS: I recently picked up "The Nutty Professor" and decided to pop this in. About six minutes into the movie, where Clump is in the deans office, the audio dialog, although understandable, had some background "garble" going on. It continues throughout the movie with the DTS option enabled. I switched to DD 5.1 and the garble goes away. Curious to see if anyone else has experienced a similar issue.

Oh well...

edvedder
05-16-07, 02:43 AM
the update fixed playback issues with children of men (it no longer freezes up and chapter 17-20) but i still cant get smokin aces to play. Just get the error message that says this disk cannot be read.

drhill
05-16-07, 11:37 AM
Hrm... I just sent back my COM to universal for a replacement. My problem with the disc was it stuttered and froze near the end at one specific scene. I wonder if that problem was fixed with the update... :\

FatiusJeebs
05-16-07, 12:13 PM
Is there some way to check if the update has taken effect? I just hooked up to live but it doesn't prompt me for an update the way it usually does.
Pop in a movie first....then it will prompt the update.

dinb
05-16-07, 12:50 PM
Pop in a movie first....then it will prompt the update.

You can also check if you have the update by going into the audio options once the movie starts (press B) and then see if you have a DTS option. If you do, then you got the update.

craiglc15
05-16-07, 02:35 PM
Okay, I ran the update this evening...

THE GOOD NEWS: It seems the audio sync issues are gone. Of all my discs, the worst place I noticed this issue was during the rooftop scene in "The Departed" toward the end of the movie, where they were yelling obscenities at each other. Tested it with both DD 5.1 and DTS, looked like the audio was sync'd up to me. Yay!

THE BAD NEWS: I recently picked up "The Nutty Professor" and decided to pop this in. About six minutes into the movie, where Clump is in the deans office, the audio dialog, although understandable, had some background "garble" going on. It continues throughout the movie with the DTS option enabled. I switched to DD 5.1 and the garble goes away. Curious to see if anyone else has experienced a similar issue.

Oh well...

I had the same problem with the movie "Swordfish". I had to switch to DD 5.1.