View Full Version : Nordost Odin - anyone upgrading?


ValhallaPC
05-15-07, 11:19 PM
"The ODIN cables use two proprietary Nordost technologies: our patented Dual Mono-Filament technology, used in both the ODIN interconnect and loudspeaker cables, and our patent pending Total Signal Control technology used in the ODIN interconnects."

http://www.nordost.com/news/news.cfm

http://www.lydogbilde.no/nordost-med-en-hyllest-til-sjefen-odin.506690-45376.html

http://www.lydogbilde.no/getfile.php/475060.919.rvxvbfsdwa/OdinSpeaker.jpg

http://www.lydogbilde.no/getfile.php/475059.919.secbawsbrs/OdinInterconnect.jpg




Time to throw away the Valhalla and upgrade to Odin?

Dizzman
05-16-07, 01:35 AM
i had a glimmer of hope that you were really as whacked out you play, but then i saw the line about rewiring your house with Valhalla.

Congratulations on being the best scammer here. you are quite excellent at playing it up.

Full props

ValhallaPC
05-16-07, 02:28 AM
i had a glimmer of hope that you were really as whacked out you play, but then i saw the line about rewiring your house with Valhalla.

Congratulations on being the best scammer here. you are quite excellent at playing it up.

Full props
I don't understand your post. I'm going to rewire my apartment with Valhalla, I have planned it a long time, check the head-fi forum.

Chu Gai
05-16-07, 07:08 AM
Odin gave one eye so that he could gain wisdom. What will you be giving?

Stephan
05-16-07, 11:27 AM
I don't know if I will upgrade, but I will give the cable a try. Nice to see they will officially introduce the Odin at High-End this week as that is where I'll be on saturday. I'm sure Lars will do the demo as usual, so I'll see what he has to say about the new cables. :)

scorch123
05-16-07, 12:19 PM
Patrick,

Remember we hinted that Nordost would replace the Valhalla line? WTYS...

It will be interesting to see how audiogon manages the Nordost Valhalla secondary market during 2007/2008.

- Steve O.

Mark_H
05-16-07, 12:28 PM
Prices for the Odins?

Mark

Stephan
05-16-07, 01:50 PM
Prices for the Odins?

2m speaker cable: $28.900,- / €21.380,- / GBP 14.650,-
1m XLR interconnect: $18.165,- / €13.440,- / GBP 9.190,-

Those are retail prices, of course street prices will be alot less as usual.
And yes, I'm sure there will be some good deals on used Valhallas soon and I will probably buy a couple of them. :D

Mark_H
05-16-07, 01:53 PM
I fold. Valhalla's were expensive enough for me... it's nice to know I found my limit :D

Now, I must remind myself never to demo these cables, just in case!

Mark

oneobgyn
05-16-07, 02:08 PM
It will be interesting to see how audiogon manages the Nordost Valhalla secondary market during 2007/2008.

or perhaps even the Transparent Opus secondary market ;)

I fold. Valhalla's were expensive enough for me... it's nice to know I found my limit

Moi aussi


I am most happy with my Valhalla

oneobgyn
05-16-07, 03:17 PM
2m speaker cable: $28.900,- / €21.380,- / GBP 14.650,-
1m XLR interconnect: $18.165,- / €13.440,- / GBP 9.190,-

Those are retail prices, of course street prices will be alot less as usual.
And yes, I'm sure there will be some good deals on used Valhallas soon and I will probably buy a couple of them. :D


I just spoke to Jeff at Nordost and indeed those are the correct MSRP's :eek:

Mark_H
05-16-07, 05:05 PM
I'm looking forward to the magazine reviews!

Mark

ValhallaPC
05-16-07, 05:15 PM
Patrick,

Remember we hinted that Nordost would replace the Valhalla line? WTYS...

It will be interesting to see how audiogon manages the Nordost Valhalla secondary market during 2007/2008.

- Steve O.
When will they release Odin power cord?

I only paid $800 for my Valhalla interconnect 2 and half years ago (bang for buck!).

2m speaker cable: $28.900,- / €21.380,- / GBP 14.650,-
1m XLR interconnect: $18.165,- / €13.440,- / GBP 9.190,-

Those are retail prices, of course street prices will be alot less as usual.
And yes, I'm sure there will be some good deals on used Valhallas soon and I will probably buy a couple of them. :D
If they can afford to pay retail price for Odin, why would they sell their Valhalla for "peanut prices"?

If everyone are looking at Audiogon for cheap Valhallas it's just going to drive the prices up because some of the buyers will give up and just buy it for the higher price instead.

The cheapest I have seen for a 4m Valhalla speaker pair is $4500. You think I should wait to buy until it is $3000 after a year?

Michael Grant
05-16-07, 06:29 PM
I think that's the creepiest myspace bio I've ever read.

scorch123
05-16-07, 06:32 PM
Patrick,

It's all supply & demand (with some luck mixed in).

Watch the used market during the winter holidays, US tax due date season, and around major A/V shows when dealers are told about product updates.

On head-fi - look what happened right before and after the San Diego head-fest - lots of buying/selling in antipication of different products, and lots of buying/selling after hearing different gear.

It's been interesting to see what happened with EMM Labs combos last year for example.

As far as Nordost Valhalla vs. Odin - it's your wallet - you're going to have to decide how long and far you will ride with that company. My only favor I ask is to take it easy on the Odin and not chop & solder it to pieces - maybe Nordost will sell you unterminated ICs.

If Nordost plans to stay in business and not get bought by another company (or go bankrupt somehow), they will ALWAYS have to refresh their product lineup.

- Steve O.

dbacksfan51
05-16-07, 06:42 PM
I think that's the creepiest myspace bio I've ever read.

+1

Andrikos
05-16-07, 07:13 PM
I think that's the creepiest myspace bio I've ever read.

:eek:

Curt Palme
05-16-07, 07:15 PM
I think that's the creepiest myspace bio I've ever read.

Note to Valhalla: Having Tom as a friend doesn't count.

It's sooo tempting to make up a 'mate' profile that could match our friend Valhalla's. Do I dare? :eek: :eek: :D

Jonomega
05-16-07, 07:22 PM
2m speaker cable: $28.900,- / €21.380,- / GBP 14.650,-
1m XLR interconnect: $18.165,- / €13.440,- / GBP 9.190,-

Those are retail prices, of course street prices will be alot less as usual.
And yes, I'm sure there will be some good deals on used Valhallas soon and I will probably buy a couple of them. :D

LOL, i didnt realize you guys use decimal points and commas opposite how i learned here in the States. I was like, $US18 is very reasonable, then I was wondering why you had 5/10 of a cent (similar to the gas station pricing scheme). Then I realized, that the commas and decimal points are switched...

ybsane
05-16-07, 07:39 PM
I don't understand these price's? for $47,000.00 could get an very good 2-channel pre-pro,amp,speakers,and still buy $1,000.00 cables to match. I just could not validate the investment in just cables for that price.. :(

longtimelurker
05-16-07, 07:56 PM
true but you would not experience the full brightness of the music, an the ceiling would be lowered, and floor would be raised in the soundstage without the cables allowing the pre/pro-amp-driver combos to perform to their fullest potential.

We already know that a 1000$ power cord can make a 1000$ DAC perform like a 10000$ DAC. this is basic science.

I don't understand these price's? for $47,000.00 could get an very good 2-channel pre-pro,amp,speakers,and still buy $1,000.00 cables to match. I just could not validate the investment in just cables for that price.. :(

ValhallaPC
05-16-07, 09:20 PM
We already know that a 1000$ power cord can make a 1000$ DAC perform like a 10000$ DAC. this is basic science.
In my experiments a $3000 Valhalla power cord made a $1000 DAC (Benchmark DAC1) perform better than a $4000 CD player (Cary 303/300). With all my gear the component with the better power cord always sounds the best. If both have the same tweaks the difference between gear costing many times more is very small. My computer sounds better than my $4000 CD transport just because my computer has extra tweaks that the CD transport doesn't have.

FrantzM
05-17-07, 12:50 AM
I fold. Valhalla's were expensive enough for me... it's nice to know I found my limit :D

Mark


Ditto ...these insane prices are enough to transform me in an "objectivist"

Wiggles
05-17-07, 02:02 AM
2m speaker cable: $28.900,- / €21.380,- / GBP 14.650,-
1m XLR interconnect: $18.165,- / €13.440,- / GBP 9.190,-

Those are retail prices, of course street prices will be alot less as usual.
And yes, I'm sure there will be some good deals on used Valhallas soon and I will probably buy a couple of them. :D

Wow!

Mark_H
05-18-07, 12:22 PM
The Odin's are apparently to be reviewed in the next issue of Hi-Fi+ magazine. Should be an interesting read.

Mark

Dizzman
05-18-07, 12:36 PM
undoubtedly!

THere will likely be an absolutely amazing collection of hyperbole. :D

Chu Gai
05-18-07, 12:53 PM
Is hyperbole one of the Norse gods?

oneobgyn
05-18-07, 01:04 PM
Is hyperbole one of the Norse gods?

actually not--in reality an Asian war lord called Hypel Bore ;)

I'm betting 2 days max on this thread

Dizzman
05-18-07, 02:05 PM
It is a good test though.

ANy objectivist who throws more than one witty (or not so witty) response is obviously really bored.

Stephan
05-20-07, 11:20 AM
Now, I must remind myself never to demo these cables, just in case!
Mark

Better keep reminding yourself then Mark. :D

Once you get a demo of the Odins, there's simply no way back to the Valhalla. If you want to hear a similar difference, get yourself a Blue Heaven and switch back and forth between that and your Valhalla. That is about the difference you will get between the Valhalla and the Odin. I haven't heard it in my own system (I doubt anyone has yet), but what I heard blew me away. It is THAT good. Thank god I have my amps sitting next to my speakers, so 1m or 1.5m will do it for me, but that's still €10k/€15k retail. :(

Oh and btw, Lars confirmed they're working on Odin power- and digital cables as well. With some luck we'll still see them this year, otherwise next year.


http://www.dicom-experts.com/highend2007/IMG_0078.jpg
http://www.dicom-experts.com/highend2007/IMG_0080.jpg
http://www.dicom-experts.com/highend2007/IMG_0083.jpg
http://www.dicom-experts.com/highend2007/IMG_0084.jpg
http://www.dicom-experts.com/highend2007/IMG_0086.jpg

Mark_H
05-20-07, 11:26 AM
What this shows, more than ever, is that it's time to move on from analog systems and start searching for a digital solution with perfect data transmission and no scope for cables to make any difference...

I can't wait to see Nordost's ODIN replacements and can only imagine their cost :D Reviewers must already be scouring their thesuari for unused superlatives!

Mark

Stephan
05-20-07, 11:26 AM
If they can afford to pay retail price for Odin, why would they sell their Valhalla for "peanut prices"?

Nobody is paying retail prices on Nordost cables, discounts are usually very good, depending on your dealer. The more you buy, the better the discounts will be.





The cheapest I have seen for a 4m Valhalla speaker pair is $4500. You think I should wait to buy until it is $3000 after a year?

You can find used Valhalla speaker cables in 2m or 3m for about $2k to $3k. I'm not saying we'll see a huge pricedrop here. But since some people will upgrade from their Balhalla to Odin, I doubt they'll keep the Valhalla as a spare pair. Some will probably move the Valhalla to the surround speakers, but others will sell them. So I think it's realistic to say that once the Odin kicks off, you may be able to find a 2m Valhalla in the $1.5k to $2k range.

I guess time will tell.

mark haflich
05-20-07, 11:43 AM
Full price trade in value for Valhalla for Odin should be no problem.

ValhallaPC
05-20-07, 01:35 PM
Better keep reminding yourself then Mark. :D

Once you get a demo of the Odins, there's simply no way back to the Valhalla. If you want to hear a similar difference, get yourself a Blue Heaven and switch back and forth between that and your Valhalla. That is about the difference you will get between the Valhalla and the Odin. I haven't heard it in my own system (I doubt anyone has yet), but what I heard blew me away. It is THAT good. Thank god I have my amps sitting next to my speakers, so 1m or 1.5m will do it for me, but that's still €10k/€15k retail. :(

Oh and btw, Lars confirmed they're working on Odin power- and digital cables as well. With some luck we'll still see them this year, otherwise next year.
I wish I had a car or house to sell. I have a mountainbike but nobody wants to buy it anyway since I have been riding too extreme. It's going to take 30+ years to save up for the Odins. Oh well, at least I have something to look forward to.

ValhallaPC
05-20-07, 01:59 PM
As far as Nordost Valhalla vs. Odin - it's your wallet - you're going to have to decide how long and far you will ride with that company. My only favor I ask is to take it easy on the Odin and not chop & solder it to pieces - maybe Nordost will sell you unterminated ICs.
I need to cut the cables to pieces and modify them to optimize the sound for the music I listen to. I like more transient speed so I'm only using 1 conductor per signal, I have disconnected all the rest of the conductors (I don't care about skin effect). The improvement between original vs modded Valhalla was almost like stock cable vs original Valhalla. The 1 conductor Valhalla sounds more revealing and very bright, but ERS Paper and Magix levitation feet fixed the problems. It sounds too warm now, but the transient speed is faster so it doesn't bother me much.

AndyGood
05-20-07, 03:25 PM
Odin gave one eye so that he could gain wisdom. What will you be giving?

How noble is it picking on this guy, really? I can understand your passion on the general audio theory subjects but to troll around the ultra high end just to make sure that you keep this guy down shows no glory in your crusade. I thought you were into old retro gear and headphones anyway, what interests you on the Ultra High End scene? I think if you want to exercise your intellect there is plenty of people that are much less of a lost cause that you can dissuade.

Michael Grant
05-20-07, 08:15 PM
I'm only using 1 conductor per signal, I have disconnected all the rest of the conductorsAnd I thought I'd heard it all.

oneobgyn
05-20-07, 08:28 PM
Be gentle Michael

Michael Grant
05-20-07, 08:41 PM
Oh, believe me, that was gentle. I mean, maybe ValhallaPC ought to call up Nordost and see if he can get a special deal on just one conductor!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZEMEzykOnQ0

Curt Palme
05-20-07, 08:44 PM
And I thought I'd heard it all.

Obviously you haven't. By cutting all but one cable, the unwanted frequencies are not passed to the speakers/headphones, and the dead end cables cause a standing wave that filters out all but the frequencies you want to hear.

mark haflich
05-20-07, 09:08 PM
Tara Labs used to do something like that years ago. Two positive ends were connected at the speaker end but only one was connected at the amp end. It was marketed as a way of reducing ringing in the cable. Sort of a place for energy sent down the cable that was reflected back to go. A sink.

Michael Grant
05-20-07, 09:20 PM
Amazing, then, that Nordost's engineers didn't figure this out! :rolleyes:

Dizzman
05-20-07, 09:31 PM
wow, and i always thought that signal did not travel to a place with no load.

Ohm proven wrong again!

ValhallaPC
05-20-07, 09:40 PM
Oh, believe me, that was gentle. I mean, maybe ValhallaPC ought to call up Nordost and see if he can get a special deal on just one conductor!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZEMEzykOnQ0
Don't they manufacture all the conductors together in the speaker cable? It would be great if I could buy only 1 conductor! What is price for 100 feet?

Michael Grant
05-20-07, 10:58 PM
Wait. You say you do this with speaker cable? I figured you were talking interconnects, where resistance isn't the primary issue---after all I thought you were a headphone guy. But if you are talking speaker cable, well, that's a different story.

According to Nordost's own specifications, a single conductor from a Valhalla speaker cable, electrically isolated, measures about 0.1 ohm per foot. My gosh, even we objectivists wouldn't put that much impedance between our amp and our speakers. I don't think even 28AWG has as much resistance.

ValhallaPC
05-20-07, 11:37 PM
Wait. You say you do this with speaker cable? I figured you were talking interconnects, where resistance isn't the primary issue---after all I thought you were a headphone guy. But if you are talking speaker cable, well, that's a different story.

According to Nordost's own specifications, a single conductor from a Valhalla speaker cable, electrically isolated, measures about 0.1 ohm per foot. My gosh, even we objectivists wouldn't put that much impedance between our amp and our speakers. I don't think even 28AWG has as much resistance.
I don't care about specifications, I care about better sound. Once you start relying more on measurement devices than your ears, then it's over.

I'm using K1000 headphones. They have 120 ohm. 1x22 awg has crazy bass. I tried the thinner Solar Wind but the bass was gone.
http://poollogics.is-a-geek.net/pictures/forum4/System/ERS.Paper2/K1000.Valkyrja/toilet.paper.rolls/03.JPG







I'm using multiple conductors for the input transformer of P300 Power Plant. I didn't have enough Vishnu (16awg) power cord so I used 3 conductor Valkyrja (22awg) instead.
http://poollogics.is-a-geek.net/pictures/forum4/System/P300.Vishnu-Valkyrja/04.JPG





I'm also using 2 Valkyrja conductors for the DC wiring of the Gain Cells inside my GCC-100 amp. I tried 3 conductors but there was too much bass, when I tried 1 conductor the bass was gone, 2 conductors was best there.

Here you see picture (DC connection on the left), I took it when 3 conductors were connected, but 2 is best.
http://poollogics.is-a-geek.net/pictures/forum4/System/Valkyrja.GCC100.closeup.JPG




I'm using 1 conductor for everything else. Interconnects, power cords, headphone cable, DC wiring, internal wiring, fuses.

I even tried (http://poollogics.is-a-geek.net/pictures/forum4/System/ERS.Paper2/Power.cord.interconnects/full.PC.as.IC.floor.Eichmann.Bullet.JPG) 1 conductor Valhalla power cord (16awg) as interconnects, but it didn't work, it sounded about the same as the original Valhalla interconnect (4x22awg). Using the correct overall gauge is more important. But if the conductor is too thin the bass is gone. I haven't noticed any lack of bass from a single 22awg conductor for the interconnects, it just makes it less muddy.

Curt Palme
05-21-07, 12:45 AM
I don't have a problem with Valhalla's posts in general. They are usually good for a laugh, or at least a :eek: .

I enjoy his whispered Youtube videos, his ramblings are entertaining enough. The paper wrapping his equipment is a fire hazard, but that's not my problem.



HOWEVER... I have a real problem with high end equipment being butchered by horrific soldering attempts, cold solder joints and flux everywhere. My stomach turns as a tech when I see that. Please stop posting those Patrick.

There's a Pink Floyd song that comes to mind that they wrote on an obscure B side that you should track down. It's called:

"Vishnu weren't here."

ValhallaPC
05-21-07, 01:31 AM
I don't have a problem with Valhalla's posts in general. They are usually good for a laugh, or at least a :eek: .

I enjoy his whispered Youtube videos, his ramblings are entertaining enough. The paper wrapping his equipment is a fire hazard, but that's not my problem.



HOWEVER... I have a real problem with high end equipment being butchered by horrific soldering attempts, cold solder joints and flux everywhere. My stomach turns as a tech when I see that. Please stop posting those Patrick.

There's a Pink Floyd song that comes to mind that they wrote on an obscure B side that you should track down. It's called:

"Vishnu weren't here."
I don't care about the connection joints, I only care about the coloration the cable brings. I haven't heard a difference with cold solder joints or when using many solder joints. I just poke with the iron until something sticks, and it still sounds great.
I haven't heard a difference between connectors either. I only care about night and day improvements. The reason I soldered all the wires was because I was too poor to buy connectors.

If I hadn't heard the difference from Valhalla I would be using cables made from coat hangers and packing tape. I would have been the biggest skeptic ever. But instead I listened to Valhalla and I became a believer.

I like what the Valhalla's silver plating does to the system. I have done loads of power cord experiments over 2 years and I keep coming to the same conclusions; Valhalla is the most colored cable I have tried. I can add it after stock extension strips and I hear the coloration in my transport, the longer the Valhalla the bigger the coloration. It does something to the power supply which makes it sound like cold capacitors that never get warmed up. It sounds open and thin which emphasizes transient speed, but everything is very smooth which increases transparency. With the original Valhalla there is too much openness that covers up the low-level detail, with the 1 conductor Valhalla there is less fake openness and more low-level detail, it also sounds a little darker. It's probably because with 1 conductor the signal travels more in the copper, while with the original 3 conductors the signal travels more in the silver plating. Also, the dielectric material seems to matter more when multiple conductors are used. The silver plating might also do something to the AC noise traveling on the cable.

My ears are probably the worst of all audiophiles but that doesn't stop me from hearing the improvement from Valhalla!

Dizzman
05-21-07, 02:56 AM
'm using K1000 headphones. They have 120 ohm.

That wins for me.

Confusing input impedance and resistance in the wire. Priceless.

Chu Gai
05-21-07, 06:40 AM
I wish I had a car or house to sell.
What about a kidney?

mark haflich
05-21-07, 06:14 PM
Thinking about it a little more, the Tara used one positive wire and two ground or return wires with only one of the two ground returns connected at the amp end.

oneobgyn
05-21-07, 08:54 PM
Thinking about it a little more, the Tara used one positive wire and two ground or return wires with only one of the two ground returns connected at the amp end.

You are correct as I owned Tara "The One" as well as "The Zero" each having their own grounding stations

ValhallaPC
05-22-07, 04:50 AM
You are correct as I owned Tara "The One" as well as "The Zero" each having their own grounding stations
The Zero wasn't better than Valhalla??

Curt Palme
05-22-07, 08:35 AM
Obviously you haven't. By cutting all but one cable, the unwanted frequencies are not passed to the speakers/headphones, and the dead end cables cause a standing wave that filters out all but the frequencies you want to hear.

BTW, I should have added a :eek: :rolleyes: to this post, I was being sarcastic..:)

Dizzman
05-22-07, 01:19 PM
Crap!

Now i need to go back and reconnect all those conductors

grellberg
05-23-07, 12:11 AM
I'm going to get some for a BAAS meeting.

Stay tuned.

oneobgyn
05-23-07, 12:13 AM
I'm going to get some for a BAAS meeting.

Stay tuned.

only if it is at my house

grellberg
05-23-07, 12:29 AM
deal!

Buy some extra Silver Oak!

FrantzM
05-23-07, 12:56 AM
Hi

I may come to this BAAS meeting but I am not buying these cables... The Valhalla are not cheap by any stretch but these have reached my tolerance limit... At any rate they can not make a bigger difference than moving from the MG 20.1 to say, the Dynaudio Evidence or the Von Scweikert VR 10 or the Magico 6 for which the buzz is extremely positive... Just do not schedule too tight in June... What about July? , I will contact you off line ... If I am coming then I will bring the finest Rum known to Connoisseurs Rhum Barbancourt...

Ron Party
05-23-07, 01:36 AM
Silver Oak ... yummmmmmmmmmmm.

Dizzman
05-23-07, 01:49 AM
the only thing missing is cigars!

To hel with the cables! :D

oneobgyn
05-23-07, 02:03 AM
Hi

I may come to this BAAS meeting but I am not buying these cables... The Valhalla are not cheap by any stretch but these have reached my tolerance limit... At any rate they can not make a bigger difference than moving from the MG 20.1 to say, the Dynaudio Evidence or the Von Scweikert VR 10 or the Magico 6 for which the buzz is extremely positive... Just do not schedule too tight in June... What about July? , I will contact you off line ... If I am coming then I will bring the finest Rum known to Connoisseurs Rhum Barbancourt...


Frantz..I still have those two bottles of Haitian rum that you brought the last time

I'm in for Silver Oak. In fact I am taking 12 friends and family this weekend to Napa for my son's 21st Birthday. We are making our first stop at Silver Oak and then off to Opus. Dining at Chandon

Knowing grellberg I am sure tha the cable order has already been placed.

mark haflich
05-23-07, 01:56 PM
Curt. Sarcasm doesn't fit you. Obliquely obtuse does!

Mark_H
05-23-07, 03:27 PM
Hi-Fi+ review is out... they LOVE Odin :D

ValhallaPC
05-30-07, 04:10 AM
You are correct as I owned Tara "The One" as well as "The Zero" each having their own grounding stations

The Zero wasn't better than Valhalla??
What was the differences between Zero and Valhalla? I always thought Zero would be more neutral because of rectangular conductors and vacuum dielectric. I guess I don't need to save up for the Zero anymore then?

Do you think that air dielectric is as good as vacuum as long as the dielectric has been burned in and kept burned in? I have heard huge differences with burn in, and the conductor needs to keep running current through it to keep it burned in.
Since I'm using only using 1 conductor per signal inside the interconnect it was easy to test, I switched into fresh conductors and it sounded very muddy. I thought the fresh conductors would sound better because the old ones had scratches and stuff on them from soldering, but instead I realized the truth about burn-in, the step back in audio quality was the biggest downgrade I have ever heard. But after 3-4 days the transparency was coming back, but it didn't sound better than the old crappy solder joints I had before. After a week it sounded the same.

Chu Gai
05-30-07, 08:27 AM
Mathew Bond needs somebody like you.

oneobgyn
05-31-07, 09:34 AM
And you are such an idiot

Art Sonneborn
05-31-07, 09:39 AM
And you are such an idiot

Yea,I agree. Oneobgyn has lots of friends here. Hearing about his trip makes me feel good. I see images of a great guy having a nice time and am happy for him....

Art

oneobgyn
05-31-07, 09:48 AM
Thanks Art

It was truly a great day with my youngest son turning 21
All of my othee kids were here with wives or girlfriends, my mother-in-law and 3 of my son's best friends.
The weather in Napa was superb.
We all had a terrific time and it was worth every penny to see the smile on my son's face


BTW, looking at the signature below Summer Baez name using a GW idiom, makes me wonder if he is just Refugio Balais aka Richie Duroseau resurfacing as another ID...especially with only 10 posts.

FrantzM
05-31-07, 12:01 PM
What Summer Baez seems to be missing is the sense of community that has developed here in this part of the forum (and maybe others).. We share more than garbs on gears.. I , do not truly drink but have come to take the The Bland Wine recommendations quite seriously and have made some true friends through this forum.. Or the numerous OT threads on Coffe makers, Watches and other High End pursuits..

By the way I am in Miami for a few days and will go to NY to see my daughter who is studying there.. I will go back to NY in July ... I will take the opportunity to visit Gladiator and listen at length to his Evolution MM3 and a friend's system who just has gotten the VS7 and see my goddaughter... and share some laughs with a few friends. I intend to swing by OB's listen to his system at length and listen without ANY intention of buying to the Nordost Odin... I will get one of the best Sushi I have tested while in Danville.. I tire so I will stop there :D

oneobgyn
05-31-07, 12:17 PM
Frantz---I still have not opened those two bottles of Haitian rum that you brought me several years ago.

I agree about community

It is something that Summer Baez knows nothing about. I will bet the next bottle of Opus one that Summer is Refugio Balais (aka Richie Duroseau)

Chu Gai
05-31-07, 01:29 PM
oneobgyn has never struck me as a braggart and one who looks down on people. Whomever you are, you owe him an apology.

QueueCumber
05-31-07, 01:29 PM
Time to throw away the Valhalla and upgrade to Odin?

I have Nordost Frey cables. So far I haven't heard a difference between those and the BetterCables I decided to run through my walls (I tried them out before switching). Considering the cost, I expected to hear some kind of difference when I switched one out for the other.

A similar thing happened to me when I initially bought the Freys and switched out the Monster cables I had been using previously. I didn't hear any difference. The Freys are way too expensive for there not to be an immediate and noticable difference IMO between the three. That being said, I won't even consider spending $28K USD (if that is what it costs?), especially after my initial experience with the Freys when compared to low end Monster cables and more recently with the BetterCables.

I know my hearing is very good for my age; I'm 33 (I had it tested recently at a nose, ear and throat specialist while having an allergy symptom looked at). So, I'm not going to take it on faith that other people are hearing things I don't. I would rather put my money into things that make a perceptible difference in my system to my ears and brain, such as speakers and more powerful amps.

Of course, if someone hears something I don't, all the power to him/her. I guess I should be grateful, since I don't have to spend extra on cables to have my system sound as good as it does already. I have nothing against anyone buying $28K cables, it just doesn't do anything for me personally. If the only way I could even tell a difference between any two cables is an A/B switch during actual music playback, and I would never notice it by just switching the cables out and playing the same music, I will never know there is a difference anyway.

That's why I won't be upgrading from Frey to anything higher up in the line. I'm actually planning on selling the Freys soon and using the money for other parts of my system, like a Wilson Watch center and Wilson surround speakers. Of course, if anyone wants to send me cables to test, and give me a method for testing them that will reveal sound differences between them, I'm all for it and would love to hear the difference (though I hope I don't hear anything, as then I will need to spend more money on my system).

Refugio Balais
05-31-07, 01:44 PM
Frantz---I still have not opened those two bottles of Haitian rum that you brought me several years ago.

I agree about community

It is something that Summer Baez knows nothing about. I will bet the next bottle of Opus one that Summer is Refugio Balais (aka Richie Duroseau)

When are you joining the Pacific Union Club, second oldest social club in the land :D

oneobgyn
05-31-07, 01:50 PM
When are you joining the Pacific Union Club, second oldest social club in the land :D

Ahhh Summer baez is having his incarnation as Refugio Balais

My mother always told me that people are easy to spot based on their words and everyone has seen through you now as three different personna.

Perhaps the last moniker of "Summer" suits you as our famous Gov Arnold would call you a "girly-man" ;)

Refugio Balais
05-31-07, 02:16 PM
Having a nervous brake down OB, firing your last shots? Should I give you all my avatars (23) on this forum for the past 10 years so you can introduce me properly?

oneobgyn
05-31-07, 02:20 PM
Having a nervous brake down OB, firing your last shots? Should I give you all my avatars (23) on this forum for the past 10 years so you can introduce me properly?

The correct English spelling for you is "break" not brake down.

You are so comical. You do get me to put my "brake" on because I love to read your whimsical posts.
In this country the term for such is called borborygmi

oneobgyn
05-31-07, 02:22 PM
All things that breath drink joy

BTW Richie I have looked at this part of your signature so long that again I need to correct your spelling..the word is "breathe"

Refugio Balais
05-31-07, 02:55 PM
BTW Richie I have looked at this part of your signature so long that again I need to correct your spelling..the word is "breathe"

Poetry eludes you OB. It is rhyming with wreath :D

oneobgyn
05-31-07, 03:01 PM
Poetry eludes you OB. It is rhyming with wreath :D

Poetry doesn't elude me at all...proper spelling eludes you

Refugio Balais
05-31-07, 03:01 PM
The correct English spelling for you is "break" not brake down.

You are so comical. You do get me to put my "brake" on because I love to read your whimsical posts.
In this country the term for such is called borborygmi

I insert those for you. It gives you a chance to say something interesting:D

oneobgyn
05-31-07, 03:03 PM
I insert those for you. It gives you something interesting to say:D
vous faites le canard encore Richie

Curt Palme
05-31-07, 08:34 PM
May I allude to the wreath of wrath that breaks down Ob and Ritchie as they take their last breath when they stuggle to breathe as they fail to put the brakes to these posts.

<gasp!>

oneobgyn
05-31-07, 10:10 PM
Curt

you're a poet and don't know it

oneobgyn
06-01-07, 12:09 AM
For your next meeting

Summer (Refugio) (Richie)...when you and all of your 23 other identities get together at your next meeting, which one of you calls roll call and how many of you are required for a quorum? :p

Should I give you all my avatars (23) on this forum for the past 10 years so you can introduce me properly?


Have you ever read the Many faces Of Eve? You need to understand Dissociative Identity Disorder :)

QueueCumber
06-01-07, 06:54 AM
Hey! Whatever happened to baby Jane?

Goalline
06-02-07, 08:29 AM
Is hyperbole one of the Norse gods?

Yes, but not as spectacular as Thor, as this one throws BS.

EnzoPolotso
06-25-07, 05:05 AM
We already know that a 1000$ power cord can make a 1000$ DAC perform like a 10000$ DAC. this is basic science.
then please, explain, professor.

Dizzman
06-25-07, 04:54 PM
i am pretty sure this was a tongue in cheek poke at Vahalla PC and his various ravings.