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teeth444
05-19-07, 11:43 PM
On May 6th of 2006 I made this post:
I have A Sony HDTV Prjection TV (KWP-65HD1). I see most of the new HD DVD players have either a componet video out (Y, Pb, Pr), or DVI out. But the inputs of this beast I own has I think only one HDTV input requiring 5 HD video connections, Y,Pb,Pr (as usual) but with Vertical and Horozontal syncs as well. (Thus 5 video connections)

Anyone know if I will still get the full HD DVD effect? My DVD I currently have outputs y,Pb,Pr (component out) as it is, but it's not HD quality. I am afraid if I pick up a HD DVD player all I will get is the same quality as I already view.

Is there a fix or an adapter?

I don't know a lot about this sort of thing and appreciate any comments.

I got the following reply:
From Robert D:
You would need to use the component video inputs on that hdtv and it will display at it's native resolution of 1080i with the Toshiba HD DVD player. Here is the specs for your hdtv fyi

I never bothered to pick up a HD DVD cuz Blue Ray came out and wasn't sure which way the world was going to turn and there were not many DVD's being sold in HD format. Now there are and I have another question for all you experts.

If you look at the back of my TV the "Video 4 (DVD)" input has a Y,Pb,Pr (Component) input and "Video 5" input the 5 connection I speak of above (Y,Pb,Pr with Vertical and Horozontal syncs ). Robert D stated the I'd get 1080i rezz but I wonder if only the "Video 5" input displays 1080i?

Obviuosly it would be a pain in the butt to have to unplug my HD Satelite signal's output everytime I wanted to watch a HD DVD and plug it into Video input 5. Manual is here is on the neyt but this forumn rules won't let me post the URL.

Any one can help? Or know?

ekb
05-20-07, 12:41 AM
But the inputs of this beast I own has I think only one HDTV input requiring 5 HD video connections, Y,Pb,Pr (as usual) but with Vertical and Horozontal syncs as well. (Thus 5 video connections)You have some sort of misunderstanding. YPbPr never needs the horizonatal and vertical sync. It's simply 3 connections. On the other hand, RGB sometimes needs one or two (horizonatal and vertical) syncs.

I think that you probably have the choice of setting that input to YPbPr or RGB. If so, then the YPrPB will be just fine with the 3 component input cables from the HD DVD player.

Ed

teeth444
05-20-07, 04:41 PM
I understand that. The wonder is weather both the Video 4 and Video 5 input will display 1080i. The Saleman at the sony store said use the video 5 input for HD. That store is no longer open and the manual is not very desriptive in that regard. I guess I could always shoot a not off to Sony.

Thanks

ekb
05-20-07, 11:37 PM
The wonder is weather both the Video 4 and Video 5 input will display 1080i. I took a quick look at the manual. I think it's pretty clear that only Video 5 will accept 1080i input.

Ed

nybbler
05-21-07, 12:16 PM
I thought HD-DVD players couldn't output full res on the component outputs anyway, thanks to the MPAA.

ekb
05-22-07, 12:33 AM
I thought HD-DVD players couldn't output full res on the component outputs anyway, thanks to the MPAA. :confused: Not sure what this has to do the current topic. But besides the point, I think that currently HD-DVD players are displaying full HD quality over component. I believe that it's the disk that either allows it or not.

Ed

John Mason
05-22-07, 06:46 AM
I thought HD-DVD players couldn't output full res on the component outputs anyway, thanks to the MPAA.
While it's possible for individual HD disc companies to insert digital codes that halve HD resolution for YPbPr outputs, AFAIK they haven't done this yet. Lots of comments suggest it won't happen for a long time. There are threads on this in the various HD disc forums. -- John

teeth444
05-22-07, 11:52 PM
Well thanks all for the information. If only the "Video 5" input will display HD then I'm hooped. Kind of a bummer. They should have some kind of DVI output converter to component that will display 1080i or something.

Star56
05-23-07, 02:16 AM
I thought HD-DVD players couldn't output full res on the component outputs anyway, thanks to the MPAA.

Wrong. 1080i out of component on all HDDVD players.

mjones73
05-23-07, 08:38 AM
"They should have some kind of DVI output converter to component that will display 1080i or something."

What good is that going to do you if you only have one input? Your best bet is a component switcher as long as you have the option of setting input 5 to YPbPr.

homerx
05-23-07, 08:44 AM
Its called a RGB HV connection. Very odd to see it. As it was only around on a few sets.

Their must be some type of converter that will go from commponet to RGB HV.
Otherwise you may be stuck with a obsolete connection

ekb
05-23-07, 09:24 AM
Its called a RGB HV connection. Very odd to see it. As it was only around on a few sets.

Their must be some type of converter that will go from commponet to RGB HV.
Otherwise you may be stuck with a obsolete connection
That Sony TV is switchable between RGBHV and YPrPb on input 5. I think the first year Mitsubishi's (ie xx803) were the only ones that only had RGBHV.

Ed

wwu123
05-24-07, 07:40 PM
I thought HD-DVD players couldn't output full res on the component outputs anyway, thanks to the MPAA.

I think it was that (some) HD-DVD players won't do >480P upconversion of regular DVD over component, just HDMI/DVI with HDCP. But they all currently display HD-DVD's at full-res over component. I was tracking this early on when first-gen HD-DVD players were having DVI HDCP handshaking issues with my three-generations-old LCD front projector.

louthewiz
05-25-07, 03:00 PM
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