I see on the Moome site there are three versions of his HDMI card for the Marquees. A plain one, one that adds gamma, and one that adds gamma and a remote control. The prices have increased. Assuming one is using something like a Lumagen before the card, what does gamma add and is the remote needed for anything (such as adjusting gamma)?

Anybody have a clue as to when these will ship? The site says by the end of May.

I think the remote will let you choose inputs either hdmi or component and also shut the gamma on and off.

Athanasios

Correct, that is what the remote does. If you can adjust the gamma in the lumagen, then you don't need it on the card. There is no gamma adjustment (yet), just on and off and source selection.

Just got an e-mail from Moome. He ia awaiting plates and says the card will ship in June. I sent him another e-mail asking when in June he is anticipating shipment.

Moome must like you Mark...lol. Maybe you could tell him to update his website more often and less of us would be wondering whats going on.

Just got an e-mail from Moome. He ia awaiting plates and says the card will ship in June. I sent him another e-mail asking when in June he is anticipating shipment. I know a guy who knows a guy who's second cousin says' the cards are defefinitely shipping in June. Only thing we're not sure of is June of what year, but 2008 is looking very promising? :D

Moome ain't no Casper. :) I have no idea whether he likes me or not. I did buy the earlier Marquee card from him. All things went smoothly. As soon as he says he is ready to ship, I will buy the new card from him.

Hi Mark:

You might want to check out the HDFury adapter I think it is shipping now here is a link http://www.divineo.cn/cgi-bin/div-cn/vid-hdf.html

I ordered one and not sure if it shipped yet!But now i,ll have the hdfury two moome marqee cards and the dvi/dvi repeater! what do i need it all for? geeze!
EDIT: HDfury is still only preorder.


Athansios

Hi Mark:

You might want to check out the HDFury adapter I think it is shipping now here is a link http://www.divineo.cn/cgi-bin/div-cn/vid-hdf.html

They will shortly be selling them on Curt's site. If purchased there, they will be drop shipped directly from the manufacturer.

Dave

Athansios:

Love to hear the comparisons when you have them all

Love to hear the comparisons when you have them allI've tried them all... moonjongs, Ophit, dtrovision, moome component+DVI VIM, moome DVI v1 IFB, JohnHWman's DVI IFB, and moome HDMI+gamma.

Moome's HDMI+gamma is my favorite (the others are listed in a relative order of preference). I also pre-ordered moome's latest offering.

I'll order a HDFury too from Kal and Curt, just for giggles... especially since it's so cheap.

All of them have been funtional and operative on my setup. I'm very appreciative of the options that Moome and Jean and the other companies have given us... they extended the lives of our projectors for several more years.

If we were still unable to hook-up DVI and HDMI sources to our CRTs, I suspect half of us would've sadly resorted to d!%!#@| by now.

The HD Fury doesn't strip. Correct? The Moome card will. Correct? I, like most others, have no desire to copy, all I wantto do is display encrypted and non encrypted HDMI by means of my analog only input FP CRT.

The HD Fury doesn't strip. Correct? The Moome card will. Correct? I, like most others, have no desire to copy, all I wantto do is display encrypted and non encrypted HDMI by means of my analog only input FP CRT.How could the HDFury convert to VGA without strip?

Will your "analog only input FP CRT" return a valid HDCP handshake? :confused:

No one is using these devices to copy. I'm not even aware of any copying scheme that would have a HDMI->VGA hardware box in the loop. How/why would you want to end up with an analog signal if you wanted a digital copy?

It's frustrating to see that these devices for providing connections from legitimately-purchased HD players with legitimately-purchased HD media to legacy display devices are somehow getting associated with illegal copying.

Reading the linked site above, it would appear that it is HDCP compliant. To be HDCP compliant, if encryption is present I think it shuts down. the RGBHV out. The chip does it.

Mark, the Fury is a stripper.

HDFury is a stripper

What is confusing is the statement in the limkthat UNLIKE stripper/converters it is complant with HDCP rules because it does not allow easy analog access and thus can be legally sold.

You guys are using the term stripper incorrectly. These devices do the following:
unencrypts the digtial input, then converts the digital RGB 4:4:4 to analog.

These don't "strip" HDCP because an analog signal cannot have HDCP. Calling them a stripper is a misnomer.

BTW, this is exactly what happens inside CRT HDTVs.

A stripper is something like moome's dvi/dvi or some of the "special" switchers that were out there. These take an encrypted digital signal in one side and send the "same" bytes out the other side just unencrypted.

And Clarence is right, there is nothing able to record HD from RGBHV. There are no desktop processors fast enough to encode HD on the fly from analog. And like Clarence, I do not know of any of these devices EVER used to make copies of content--and I follow this market pretty close. :)

These devices are material equivalent to the Panny Plasma plug in modules which allow the addition of HDCP compliant DVI and HDMI inputs to those displays.

Dave

Actually, there are analog recording devices. They are just expensive :) Takes about 4k to build a system with the right components to handle it. And given the disk space requirements, etc; it makes it a silly proposition. But you are right Dave, these are not strippers per se.

OK, It allows HDCP encrypted material to pass to RGBHV from HDMI

Yes

HDFury is a stripper


I don't care what you guys say, HD Fury is still a GREAT stripper name:

"NOW APPEARING ON THE MAIN STAGE, GENTLEMEN CAST YOUR EYES ON HDFURY!"

And to correct Clarence's post:

The HDFury is a THIRD PARTY ITEM. These are NOT bought from Kal or myself, they are bought directly from the manufacturer.

And when it comes to great strippers, Curt is the acknowledged expert. His field research is second to none. :)

And when it comes to great strippers, Curt is the acknowledged expert. His field research is second to none. :) :D acording to Tinman it's a noble endeavour and supports single mom's.

Correct, that is what the remote does. If you can adjust the gamma in the lumagen, then you don't need it on the card. There is no gamma adjustment (yet), just on and off and source selection.

tell one thing, the adjust gamma is on the VIM card. now! you can send me back for update if you like!

If we were still unable to hook-up DVI and HDMI sources to our CRTs, I suspect half of us would've sadly resorted to d!%!#@| by now.You'd be shocked at the number of emails Curt gets every day that start off with:

"Since I can't hook up my <insert DVI/HDMI device here> to my CRT projector I sold it and bought a digital. Would you be interested in buying my old <insert CRT projector model here> from me?"

John asked me to help him sell off his remaining Sony IDF DVI/HDMI boards on Curt's site and you'd be surprised how many CRT owners write in saying "thank you! finally!" - most had no idea that these solutions have existed for years already! They're not new people! :)

I've always thought that the forum only represents a tiny % of us... I never realized how small that % actually was!

Kal

P.S. See here (http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5282) for of the details behind the HDfury, the fact that it doesn't strip, what cables are included, etc. I've taken all of the content on the thing that I could find and fixed up the english and made it CRT projector-centric as best I could.

Curt is NOT going to sell it. I tried to order one off the manufacturer's site but got nowhere. Kept getting looped around arfter I registered. Anybody order one yet?

The HDFury is a THIRD PARTY ITEM. These are NOT bought from Kal or myself, they are bought directly from the manufacturer.... so yes, they won't be sold directly by Curt himself of course but they *will* be sold directly by the manufacturer at Curt's site at a good "power-buy" type price that I was able to negotiate with the rep. Along with 2-4 day worldwide priority shipping with an option of 3 types of cables (which none of the other places seem to offer yet - every other place just wants to sell the dongle by itself or possibly the VGA cable [they're not clear]). They start shipping on Tuesday, and you can place your order directly with the manufacturer now. See here (http://www.curtpalme.com/CRTforSale_3rdparty_products.shtm).

IMHO, these sorts of products will really help keep CRT alive!

Kal

OK. I did it following the link which routed me through Curt's site. I'm so happy I could sh__! :)

This will have to hold me until Moome's card ships.

Moome says it will ship in three weeks (mid June).