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HelpMePlz
05-23-07, 01:33 AM
Hey Guys

I just bought the tripple pack of all 3 Mission Impossibles and just realized that they re-released the first 2 today...

What is the reason for re-releasing the first 2 again today? will they do the same to the third, I noticed the third has 2 disks...? should I sell the first 2 I have now and go buy the newer version that were released today?


Thanks

Erik

lllllllxlllllllx
05-23-07, 01:50 AM
Its the same thing. They release it solo so people can pick what part they want to buy.

HelpMePlz
05-23-07, 01:53 AM
are you sure? I did abit of research and I read that the version of Mission Impossible 1 that came out today is a 50 gig and the current one I have now is only a 25 gig... also Mission IMpossible 2 that came out today is suppose to come with 2 disks... mine came with just one???

:(

MaynardJames
05-23-07, 02:09 AM
I don't own any of these movies, but I am pretty sure they are exactly the same, just packaged solo, as opposed to only being available in the box set.

The box set was a four disc set, so I am assuming the fourth disc was the extras. I would then assume that they used a 50gb disc for MI because they needed to fit the extras on the same disc as the movie, therefore they needed the extra space. Same goes for MI:2, it is two discs, but they are both 25gb discs.

HelpMePlz
05-23-07, 02:14 AM
Same goes for MI:2, it is two discs, but they are both 25gb discs.


well my version of MI:2 only came with 1 disk? apparently the new one comes with 2? :confused:

MaynardJames
05-23-07, 02:18 AM
well my version of MI:2 only came with 1 disk? apparently the new one comes with 2? :confused:

What I meant was, that the new one is two discs, but they are both 25gb discs, meaning 50gb in total. The first disc is most likely the movie, identical to the disc from the box set, and the second disc is most likely the extras from that movie that were featured on the fourth disc of the box set.

HelpMePlz
05-23-07, 02:46 AM
What I meant was, that the new one is two discs, but they are both 25gb discs, meaning 50gb in total. The first disc is most likely the movie, identical to the disc from the box set, and the second disc is most likely the extras from that movie that were featured on the fourth disc of the box set.


ok well the bonus disk you get inside the box set is inside the MI:3 case, like it would be if you bought it seperately... and it's exclusively on MI:3... not the first too...

I don't think they would put the MI:3 Special features in the new release of MI:2... :confused:

and also my MI:1 is BVSS... and i've read on multiple websites that the MI:1 that released today was a 50 gig or BVDL

MaynardJames
05-23-07, 04:20 AM
I don't think you understood what I said about MI (the first one), but if what you say is true (the fourth disc is mearly apart of MI:III) then that throws my theory out the window.
Everything I have read says that they are identical, the video encodes, the audio tracks are all the same. I am sure the difference's simply lie with how the special features were distributed via the box-set, vs. the individual releases (I know for a fact that there are special features that are about the series, and not one movie specific). Without having either the box-set or the idividuals with me, I really cannot say for sure.

HelpMePlz
05-23-07, 11:28 AM
bump... hopefully someone can confirm because I will go buy the newer versions today and sell my old ones :)

Josh Z
05-23-07, 01:41 PM
The only differences between these new releases and the "Ultimate Missions Collection" box set are:

1) They're sold separately, not in a box set.
2) Paramount removed the silver borders from each case's cover art.

That's it. They're otherwise the exact same discs previously found in the box.

M:I and M:I-2 are both single discs. M:I-3 is the only 2-disc set. All of the discs are single-layer 25 gb using MPEG2.

HelpMePlz
05-23-07, 02:39 PM
The only differences between these new releases and the "Ultimate Missions Collection" box set are:

1) They're sold separately, not in a box set.
2) Paramount removed the silver borders from each case's cover art.

That's it. They're otherwise the exact same discs previously found in the box.

M:I and M:I-2 are both single discs. M:I-3 is the only 2-disc set. All of the discs are single-layer 25 gb using MPEG2.


Iv'e read reviews on 3 different websites about MI:1 and MI:2 releases from yesterday all stating that there 50 gb disks?? :confused:

mine have BVSS on the bottom

MaynardJames
05-23-07, 02:40 PM
M:I and M:I-2 are both single discs. M:I-3 is the only 2-disc set. All of the discs are single-layer 25 gb using MPEG2.

That is true... of the box-set. For the single releases different websites report either M:I being a 50gb disc or MI:2 being a two-disc collectors set. I have also seen some (highdefdigest) that report MI:2 being a 50gb disc. Wether or not any of this is true, I do agree, that they are identical to the box-set versions. Here is a quote from highdefdigest

As with the video and audio, the supplements for 'Mission: Impossible' are also identical to the box set version released last year. The package will also be familiar to those who picked up Paramount's 10th Anniversary Edition on standard-def DVD earlier in 2006, as all of the materials were originally culled from that release.

HelpMePlz
05-23-07, 03:11 PM
weird... I which someone would have purchased the new releases from yesterday and could confirm for us :)

Josh Z
05-23-07, 03:45 PM
That is true... of the box-set. For the single releases different websites report either M:I being a 50gb disc or MI:2 being a two-disc collectors set. I have also seen some (highdefdigest) that report MI:2 being a 50gb disc. Wether or not any of this is true, I do agree, that they are identical to the box-set versions. Here is a quote from highdefdigest

The copy of M:I-2 I received last week is a single 25gb disc. It is not a 2-disc set, and is not dual layer (I checked specifically for this).

It's different from the version in the box set only in that the cover art no longer has the silver border.

eddy_winds
05-23-07, 04:29 PM
Waiting for NetFlix to ship my Now
LOL
;)

MaynardJames
05-24-07, 01:17 AM
The copy of M:I-2 I received last week is a single 25gb disc. It is not a 2-disc set, and is not dual layer (I checked specifically for this).

Not to be an ass but, that probably would have been a good thing to include in your first post.

Josh Z
05-24-07, 01:44 PM
Not to be an ass but, that probably would have been a good thing to include in your first post.

Here's my first post. You tell me what I'm missing:

The only differences between these new releases and the "Ultimate Missions Collection" box set are:

1) They're sold separately, not in a box set.
2) Paramount removed the silver borders from each case's cover art.

That's it. They're otherwise the exact same discs previously found in the box.

M:I and M:I-2 are both single discs. M:I-3 is the only 2-disc set. All of the discs are single-layer 25 gb using MPEG2.

MaynardJames
05-24-07, 03:29 PM
Here's my first post. You tell me what I'm missing:

You are missing the fact that you have them, and specifically checked for these things on the disc. With your orginal post, all you do is state "This is how it is" and not "this is how I know this". From your first post, no one can gather that you have pyshically checked these things, and for all anyone reading would know, you were just stating what you either heard, or read, or think, about these discs.

Josh Z
05-24-07, 10:10 PM
You are missing the fact that you have them, and specifically checked for these things on the disc. With your orginal post, all you do is state "This is how it is" and not "this is how I know this". From your first post, no one can gather that you have pyshically checked these things, and for all anyone reading would know, you were just stating what you either heard, or read, or think, about these discs.

I would have thought that's implied. Especially since, if you go to DVDTalk, you'll find my reviews of these discs there.

Steeb
05-24-07, 10:21 PM
Not to be an ass...
Too late.

bassmonkeee
05-24-07, 10:38 PM
I'd just like to say that I think it should be "Missions Impossible" and not "Mission Impossibles."



Carry on.

MaynardJames
05-25-07, 05:51 AM
I would have thought that's implied. Especially since, if you go to DVDTalk, you'll find my reviews of these discs there.

I don't know how that could be implied. I don't know who you are, but what you are saying is that me, aswell as everyone else that reads your first post (including the OP who is the one trying to find the answer) is supposed to "take your word" that what you state is true. Normally when someone is looking for an answer, they want one that is justified. As you can see from posts coming after your original statement, myself and the OP are two of those people.

I have read your review. In it you state exactly what you stated in your orginal post, there is nothing about you "specifcally looking" at them for this. As you can tell from other posts in this thread, there are plenty of other reviews on the web that state exactly as you do, but are to the contrary of what you state. Therefore your statement falls into that same category. Unless of course you are expecting everyone to again, "take your word" over every other review that states differently (which I am sure you are not).

And why in the world would the OP state "weird... I which someone would have purchased the new releases from yesterday and could confirm for us" well after you had already answered his question. Why? Because you did not justify it. Once you did, the question was answered. Notice how the OP has not posted since your justifying statement?

Again, I'm not trying to be an ass, all I am saying is you could have avoided all the post discussion had you simply justified how you knew this to be true. I really don't want to go on about this anymore, as it is pretty meaningless, just remember that next time you are trying to help someone, don't expect them to just accept what you say to be fact, without stating why you know it to be true. Other than that, thanks for clearing this matter up. I was also wondering about this, and you have cleared it up :)

Too late.

Good one. I am glad you could contribute something constructive to this thread. Good for you.

Steeb
05-25-07, 09:58 AM
Again, I'm not trying to be an ass, all I am saying is you could have avoided all the post discussion had you simply justified how you knew this to be true. I really don't want to go on about this anymore, as it is pretty meaningless, just remember that next time you are trying to help someone, don't expect them to just accept what you say to be fact, without stating why you know it to be true. Other than that, thanks for clearing this matter up. I was also wondering about this, and you have cleared it up :)
You chastise someone for not assisting the OP in a manner consistent with your rigorous standards, yet you're not trying to be an ass?

Let it go. You're only making yourself look worse.

Josh Z
05-25-07, 10:25 AM
All right, we're all going to let this go now. The issue has been cleared up. The discs are single-layer 25gb, and M:I-2 is not a 2-disc set.

Josh Z
05-25-07, 10:30 AM
I'd just like to say that I think it should be "Missions Impossible" and not "Mission Impossibles."

:D

No, I'm pretty sure "Mission: Impossibles" is correct in this instance, because the title of the movie is "Mission: Impossible", and the title constitutes a single proper noun.

If we were talking about the missions themselves within the movies, then yes it would be "missions impossible", or more clearly "impossible missions", but when talking about the movies "Mission: Impossibles" is the correct plural.

MaynardJames
05-25-07, 03:47 PM
You chastise someone for not assisting the OP in a manner consistent with your rigorous standards, yet you're not trying to be an ass?

Let it go. You're only making yourself look worse.

And... Ignore.

bassmonkeee
05-25-07, 03:50 PM
And... Ignore.

Ignoring someone by making a direct response to them. That's very zen.

MaynardJames
05-25-07, 03:55 PM
Ignoring someone by making a direct response to them. That's very zen.

Oh, another one. Yippee, two in one day.

HelpMePlz
05-25-07, 06:03 PM
:D

No, I'm pretty sure "Mission: Impossibles" is correct in this instance, because the title of the movie is "Mission: Impossible", and the title constitutes a single proper noun.

If we were talking about the missions themselves within the movies, then yes it would be "missions impossible", or more clearly "impossible missions", but when talking about the movies "Mission: Impossibles" is the correct plural.


Thank You :)

regular guy
05-25-07, 10:11 PM
"If we were talking about the missions themselves within the movies, then yes it would be "missions impossible", or more clearly "impossible missions", but when talking about the movies "Mission: Impossibles" is the correct plural."

Sorry, but I tend to agree with bassmonkee. The movies are different missions. All of which are impossible. Missions Impossible. This is not wrong. In fact, it makes sense.

The plural of mission is "missions." We have 3 missions. Impossible Missions would also be correct. Each movie is an impossible mission.

1 impossible mission
2 impossible missions
3 impossible missions.

Mission-Impossibles may confuse the reader that we are talking about 1 MISSION.
By using MISSIONS the reader knows for certainty that we are talking about more than 1 mission. Missions Impossible is clearer. IMHO

Josh Z
05-26-07, 01:16 PM
"If we were talking about the missions themselves within the movies, then yes it would be "missions impossible", or more clearly "impossible missions", but when talking about the movies "Mission: Impossibles" is the correct plural."

Sorry, but I tend to agree with bassmonkee. The movies are different missions. All of which are impossible. Missions Impossible. This is not wrong. In fact, it makes sense.

The plural of mission is "missions." We have 3 missions. Impossible Missions would also be correct. Each movie is an impossible mission.

1 impossible mission
2 impossible missions
3 impossible missions.

Mission-Impossibles may confuse the reader that we are talking about 1 MISSION.
By using MISSIONS the reader knows for certainty that we are talking about more than 1 mission. Missions Impossible is clearer. IMHO

But we're not talking about the missions. We're talking about the movie, and the movie's title is "Mission: Impossible". That's one proper noun.