View Full Version : PS3 to get DVD upscaling tommorow...


Blumoon
05-23-07, 12:31 PM
http://kotaku.com/gaming/welcome-tom...row-262852.php

Blumoon
05-23-07, 12:33 PM
The next big PS3 update hits tomorrow, bringing with it a slew of new functionality to Sony's big black console. At the top of the list (at least where I am concerned) is upscaling PlayStation and PS2 games as well as DVDs to full 1080p resolution. This could very well mean that my beloved PS2 could finally be hitting the closet.

Also included is Remote Play via the internet, allowing users to connect their PSP to their PS3 from anywhere in the world via broadband internet connection for some odd reason. Can't say I'd find this particularly useful.

Then there is support for streaming media from DLNA3 enabled devices (computers, laptops, etc.) directly to your PS3, which is of course nifty except I have a PC hooked up to my television already. Oh, and you can print photos from your PS3 to certain Epson printers, but odds are if you have an Epson printer you have a PC you print from anyway.

It also mentions straming media from a pc... (though I have no clue what DLNA3 is, didnt come up under google)

Jiffylush
05-23-07, 12:44 PM
It also mentions straming media from a pc... (though I have no clue what DLNA3 is, didnt come up under google)

DLNA.org has some info, will just have to wait and see what works and what doesn't. I assume unprotected fileshares will work fine, but we will have to wait and see.

Wet1
05-23-07, 12:52 PM
Finally.

Jiffylush
05-23-07, 12:54 PM
Finally.

Don't say finally until it is working on your player...

I am excited, especially about the streaming media, but I am still treating this as a rumor until I see 'Update Available'.

Blumoon
05-23-07, 12:58 PM
Likewise...

Im sorry mods - not only did I post this in the wrong forum, I totally missed the other post...

Im 0 for 2 today, my bad.

MySassyGirl
05-23-07, 01:51 PM
good news....PS3 is becoming more and more the ultimate entertainment console.

Fettastic
05-23-07, 02:11 PM
:eek:

By upscaling to 1080p the PS3 just leapfrogged at least the first gen of HD DVD players! That is of course if quality of upscaling is compatible.

crakerhead
05-23-07, 02:13 PM
sounds nice...but just like juffy says...rumor until "update available"

donricouga
05-23-07, 02:19 PM
sounds nice...but just like juffy says...rumor until "update available"

http://www.scee.presscentre.com/Content/Detail.asp?ReleaseID=4372&NewsAreaID=2
Its on the Europe division of Sony Computer Entertainment. Its probably true for the rest of the world. But the timing may be different.

petmic10
05-23-07, 03:01 PM
:eek:

By upscaling to 1080p the PS3 just leapfrogged at least the first gen of HD DVD players! That is of course if quality of upscaling is compatible.

I wouldn't count on it.

This is just my opinion but why would Sony want the PS3 to be a terrific
upscaling dvd player. They want you to replace all your regular dvd's with
Blu-ray movies instead.

If upscaled SD dvd's look too good this might deter people from buying Blu-ray movies.

I guess we will find out soon enough.

solo88
05-23-07, 03:08 PM
I wouldn't count on it.

This is just my opinion but why would Sony want the PS3 to be a terrific
upscaling dvd player. They want you to replace all your regular dvd's with
Blu-ray movies instead.

If upscaled SD dvd's look too good this might deter people from buying Blu-ray movies.

I guess we will find out soon enough.
Yeah, but upscaled DVDs don't look as good as HD, no matter what people want to believe.

Fettastic
05-23-07, 03:46 PM
I wouldn't count on it.

This is just my opinion but why would Sony want the PS3 to be a terrific
upscaling dvd player. They want you to replace all your regular dvd's with
Blu-ray movies instead.

If upscaled SD dvd's look too good this might deter people from buying Blu-ray movies.

I guess we will find out soon enough.
It's an official Sony press release. It's happening. And the word is that it looks great!

petmic10
05-23-07, 03:55 PM
Yeah, but upscaled DVDs don't look as good as HD, no matter what people want to believe.

I agree HD is much better than upscaled dvd's.

Ultimately if the PS3's upgrade makes it a terrific upscaling player it might
make people re-consider a Blu-ray movie purchase because of cost.

This is all speculation but something to think about.

petmic10
05-23-07, 03:59 PM
It's an official Sony press release. It's happening. And the word is that it looks great!

I never had a doubt of it happening, I was just wondering how good the
upconverting will be.

It seems that you just answered my question. :)

I have a PS3 and an XA2 and I can't wait to test these two players
as far as upscaling is concerned to see how the PS3 does against the
Silicon Optix chip in the XA2.

Goatspeed
05-23-07, 04:34 PM
I've been terribly unimpressed with upscaling from a Pio Elite 79avi to a Sony A2000. I've tried upscaling, tried doing 480i direct letting the TV do it. I think upscaling is crap. I'll be thrilled when there is enough of a selection of HD movies out there that I can off my entire DVD collection and replace it with stuff that looks *good* on a HDTV.

With that said, I'll try the upscaling on a PS3 with low expectations, but hey maybe I'll be surprised.

Jiffylush
05-23-07, 04:42 PM
With that said, I'll try the upscaling on a PS3 with low expectations, but hey maybe I'll be surprised.

That is probably the best way to approach it, just hope that it is working as intended (outputting at 1080p), then if it looks noticeably better it will be a bonus.

bjonni
05-23-07, 04:53 PM
I don't understand the upscaling hysteria either. At least not for DVDs. Aren't most tvs above the budget segment pretty capable already? I think the upscaling of PS2 games sounds more interesting. It would be sweet if it means they will render some PS2 games at a higher resolution (like the 360 does for some games), still the same blurry old textures but no ugly jaggies on the polygons.

Fettastic
05-23-07, 05:01 PM
I never had a doubt of it happening, I was just wondering how good the
upconverting will be.

It seems that you just answered my question. :)

I have a PS3 and an XA2 and I can't wait to test these two players
as far as upscaling is concerned to see how the PS3 does against the
Silicon Optix chip in the XA2.
I'm very curious about that myself. Hopefully sooner rather than later someone will run them through some tests.

solo88
05-23-07, 05:07 PM
Only if they DRAMATICALLY improve 480p performance will I start using my PS3 as a DVD player. That I should be able to take advantage of via component. Even then, I'm not sure the video levels would be the same from 480p to 1080i. As it is now, I have to adjust my tint every time I go from the PS3 to the rest of my system (curse that one set of component inputs). Tint's the one thing I can't adjust via the iScan which everything else is wired into.

That's not to say good upscaling won't come in handy someday when I upgrade to a huge front projection system.

So it will be fun to hear if the 480p output has improved.

lilstinky
05-23-07, 05:33 PM
I'm stoked. Been waiting for this for a while. I hope it does a better job than my 360. My 360 does ok but I would like something a little better.

svalentine
05-23-07, 05:37 PM
Atleast now I can watch Universal titles at a better quality. I will not buy an HD-DVD player only for support from Universal.

Makomachine
05-23-07, 05:41 PM
It will have to be EXCELLENT to beat my HD-A1 at upscaling - I hope it is! (I own both)

lilstinky
05-23-07, 05:44 PM
It will have to be EXCELLENT to beat my HD-A1 at upscaling - I hope it is! (I own both)

LOL. Sounds like your shooting for the stars! Sure would be sweet if it does.

jkcheng122
05-23-07, 05:48 PM
It will have to be EXCELLENT to beat my HD-A1 at upscaling - I hope it is! (I own both)

will it even matter if it is excellent or not? it's not like it will make u take the hd-a1 out of your home theater setup.

lilstinky
05-23-07, 05:50 PM
will it even matter if it is excellent or not? it's not like it will make u take the hd-a1 out of your home theater setup.

Great for those of us that don't have a Toshiba for HD-DVD though.

Jiffylush
05-23-07, 05:52 PM
Great for those of us that don't have a Toshiba for HD-DVD though.

I had no plans to add another player, so any improvement here is welcome. That said I am still more excited about playing stuff off the network.

Makomachine
05-23-07, 05:53 PM
will it even matter if it is excellent or not? it's not like it will make u take the hd-a1 out of your home theater setup.

It will matter from the fact that while I love the HD-DVD out of the HD-A1, I HATE the speed at which it does everything. Relegating it only to HD-DVD's and having the PS3 take on DVD's is a nice plus.

lilstinky
05-23-07, 06:16 PM
I had no plans to add another player, so any improvement here is welcome. That said I am still more excited about playing stuff off the network.

What are you talking about? What else is the update for?

REL77
05-23-07, 06:20 PM
What are you talking about? What else is the update for?


If you read the OP and looked at the link, you would understand this is a big update.

Also included are:
In a comprehensive update to PS3's already impressive capabilities, Version 1.80 also allows users to enjoy Remote Play on their PSP across the internet, allowing them to access their PS3 anywhere in the world where a broadband internet connection is available2.

Version 1.80 also allows users on a home network to seamlessly view and play rich media content such as images, music and video on their PS3, that is stored on their DLNA3 enabled devices such as PCs and laptops elsewhere in the house, reinforcing PS3's credentials as a home entertainment hub that truly deserves pride of place in the Living Room.

tauheel05
05-23-07, 06:24 PM
I hope its awesome.

ethanj
05-23-07, 07:12 PM
While the A1 upconverts DVD very well, I hope the PS3 is at least as good. Plain and simple, the PS3 is a joy to use everyday.

geek123
05-23-07, 07:31 PM
24Hz BR Movie playback!
I can't wait to see how it performs with those TVs that support 1080p/24fps

lilstinky
05-23-07, 07:51 PM
While the A1 upconverts DVD very well, I hope the PS3 is at least as good. Plain and simple, the PS3 is a joy to use everyday.


I wouldn't call it exactly a joy. The PS3 dashboard is very clunky on both it and the PSP.

asj2006
05-23-07, 07:57 PM
24Hz BR Movie playback!
I can't wait to see how it performs with those TVs that support 1080p/24fps

Great news...i guess this means my old DVDs will look better now :)

Iggster
05-23-07, 08:13 PM
While the A1 upconverts DVD very well, I hope the PS3 is at least as good. Plain and simple, the PS3 is a joy to use everyday.
thats about the only good thing the a1 does and play cd's :p

im glad i got rid of my a1 and now using an a2

yah i know some of you got lucky and got perfect working a1's but not me :( two players both where doo dooo

and no the ps3 is not a joy to use.

so far its only a loud blu ray players.

but it does make a great heater :D

i really cant wait for them to add dts hd ma

imagine6
05-23-07, 08:46 PM
Any word of 720p output?

scitek
05-23-07, 09:05 PM
The update will be fun for watching pr0n on my pr0jector. Either way, I already have an A1 and that upscales just fine.

cocoon
05-23-07, 09:14 PM
I wonder if the PS3 will be able to upscale PAL dvds if the machine is region 1. The Toshiba HD-A1 is awesome at upscaling yet for some reason it can't handle pal dvd even if they are region free if the machine is set for region 1.

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Dan Hitchman
05-23-07, 10:26 PM
Great news...i guess this means my old DVDs will look better now :)

Since DVD's are recorded (NTSC ones that is) at ~30 fps already (2:3 pulldown already applied) you can't get a pure 24 fps (24 Hz) output. That is, unless you wash the video through a very good scaler that can do an excellent reverse-telecine conversion back to 24 fps and output it as such. Even then it's not a perfect process.

I very much doubt Sony added reverse telecine scaling to the PS3. Even very expensive DVD's players don't have this feature.

We should be glad Sony added 24 fps for Blu-ray. Hopefully, someone with some knowledge can figure out if this is PURE 24 fps output right from the decoder without conversion.

Now, we need WTW and BTB video support, DTS-MA decoding, and HDMI 1.3 audio bitstream output. Come on, Sony!!

Dan