View Full Version : Kubrick Collection Coming Soon to Blu-ray and HD DVD!
AaronSCH 05-23-07, 12:51 PM This insert appears on the DVDtown website. It was packed with certain Matrix Trilogy Box sets. I cannot wait for these films but where is Barry Lyndon and Dr. Strangelove? I drool over the prospect of watching 2001 and A Clockwork Orange in high def!
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-9/1071897/kubrick-collection-coming-to-hd-20070521030248375-000.jpg
Are they re-releasing FMJ?
AaronSCH 05-23-07, 01:13 PM I haven't heard whether this is the same lame transfer or if it has been re-tooled.
I haven't heard whether this is the same lame transfer or if it has been re-tooled.
Here's hoping for the latter :D
Stevie76 05-23-07, 01:18 PM I really hope we get extra material on these new releases and not barebone as the DVD:s.
Canīt wait for 2001 and Clockwork!!!!!! two of the greatest movies ever :)
I hope we'll at least get 1.66:1, 1.77:1, or 1.85:1 transfers of the films that were previously only 1.33:1 on SD. What was the AR of the original Full Metal Jacket release?
originalprime 05-23-07, 05:12 PM I hope we'll at least get 1.66:1, 1.77:1, or 1.85:1 transfers of the films that were previously only 1.33:1 on SD. What was the AR of the original Full Metal Jacket release?
Kubrick's SD box set did contain original aspect ratios - as opposed to purchasing each film individually. Hopefully we'll see original aspects in this box set!
N.B. Forrest 05-23-07, 06:09 PM This insert appears on the DVDtown website. It was packed with certain Matrix Trilogy Box sets. I cannot wait for these films but where is Barry Lyndon and Dr. Strangelove? I drool over the prospect of watching 2001 and A Clockwork Orange in high def!
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-9/1071897/displayimage.php.jpg
Where is "Paths of Glory"?
Wonder how soon they mean.
I want them all
Dan Hitchman 05-23-07, 06:15 PM Here's hoping Eyes Wide Shut is the original uncut version as Kubrick wanted. I would assume that the films shot for standard Academy widescreen (1.85:1) like The Shining, FMJ, A Clockwork Orange, etc. will finally be at least 1.78:1 (I've never known WB to do true 1.85:1 transfers).
These better be brand new HD transfers (even FMJ) with lossless audio (on Blu-ray too)! Kubrick was a singular visionary and his movies should be treated with the greatest respect.
AaronSCH 05-23-07, 07:39 PM Yeah Dan, I am in total agreement. He is one of my favorite directors, right up there with David Lean and Alfred Hitchcock. I also consider "Eyes Wide Shut" a fantastic film. It has grown on me considerably over the years as is the case with the late Mr. Kubrick's other masterpieces.
AaronSCH 05-23-07, 07:45 PM Where is "Paths of Glory"?
I don't think that was ever part of the previous Kubrick Collections that Warner released. I believe the previous inclusion of Dr. Strangelove was by agrreement with Columbia/Tristar which is now part of Sony Pictures. Paths of Glory is an MGM title which is now controlled by Fox if I am not mistaken. Lolita and Barry Lyndon are odd omissions. Anybody know the reason?
Dave Mack 05-23-07, 08:05 PM The OAR of "The Shining" was 1:85-1 in the theaters. That's how I first saw it, loved it and would like to see it again...
That storyboard from The Kubrick book confirms the intended AR as well....
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/7809/shiningfo5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Rob Tomlin 05-23-07, 08:12 PM I don't think that was ever part of the previous Kubrick Collections that Warner released. I believe the previous inclusion of Dr. Strangelove was by agrreement with Columbia/Tristar which is now part of Sony Pictures. Paths of Glory is an MGM title which is now controlled by Fox if I am not mistaken. Lolita and Barry Lyndon are odd omissions. Anybody know the reason?
That's my understanding as well.
Not sure what the reason is for Lolita or Barry Lyndon.
I have seen both A Clockwork Orange and 2001: A Space Odyssey in HD on cable. 2001 looks quite good, Clockwork less so, but still pretty good. It will be great to have these in HD, since I consider these two films to be a couple of the best ever made.
bboisvert 05-23-07, 08:18 PM Where is "Paths of Glory"?
Warner doesn't own all of his films.
Killer's Kiss, The Killing, and Paths of Glory are United Artist pictures with MGM.
Spartacus is with Universal.
Dr. Strangelove is with Sony.
KyaDawn 05-23-07, 11:45 PM Can't wait to get "A Clockwork Orange" and "2001" in HD! The DVDs I have are letterboxed sadly, but actually look decent. HD would be insane!
flyersfan 05-24-07, 03:26 AM Strangelove is a must-own for me. I can revisit that movie at least once a year and enjoy it as much as my first viewing. I'll probably pay less for the HD version than I did the special edition DVD in early 2001.
Giles37 05-24-07, 11:31 AM well, where's "Barry Lyndon" (damn my DV-R for not recording this off of HDNet Movies)
withnail 05-24-07, 01:03 PM Wasn't this addressed in a chat w/WHV posted over at Digital Bits? Malcolm McDowell has, I believe, stated that he recorded a commentary track for Clockwork semi-recently, and I can't imagine that they'd bother with a SD-only release of another Kubrick collection.
gorthocar 05-24-07, 11:01 PM This should be a killer set if they are all mastered well. Now for the hard part: waiting, and waiting for the reviews to see if they are worth all their high def glory.
shadowrage 05-24-07, 11:14 PM This should be a killer set if they are all mastered well. Now for the hard part: waiting, and waiting for the reviews to see if they are worth all their high def glory.
The hardest part is waiting for Warner to tell me where to put my money. :)
I want to buy now.
Any Clockwork Orange is good, plus Warner's been up to snuff with older transfers.
This is awesome news...I'll definitely buy The Shining!
zurgdawg 06-20-07, 12:11 PM Do we have any release date info on this set? Can't wait for it! I only wish they'd release "The Killing" as well.
phantsam 06-20-07, 01:32 PM Wow. Clockwork Orange and FMJ in HD would be insane!!
Rob Tomlin 06-20-07, 01:35 PM Wow. Clockwork Orange and FMJ in HD would be insane!!
FMJ is already in HD.
And it doesn't look very "insane" (at least not the way that you are using that term)! ;)
phantsam 06-20-07, 01:38 PM FMJ is already in HD.
And it doesn't look very "insane" (at least not the way that you are using that term)! ;)
lol. Sorry, a wee bit much cafffeine so far today.
Rob Tomlin 06-20-07, 02:26 PM lol. Sorry, a wee bit much cafffeine so far today.
I need more! ;)
RScottyL 06-20-07, 02:33 PM I too am looking forward to having A Clockwork Orange and 2001 on Blu-ray and HD-DVD. I saw both of them on HDNET, and 2001 looked stunning and very impressive.
I currently have FMJ on Blu-Ray, but not extremely impressed. Maybe they will re-issue it with better quality.
UxiSXRD 06-20-07, 02:59 PM 2001 looked pretty good on HDNET. I didn't catch Clockwork Orange but would be happy to see that, too. Given it's miserable rep (even worse than TFE), I've avoided it but would happy to hear it's not the bob already released...
ResOGlas 06-20-07, 03:20 PM 2001 looked pretty good on HDNET. I didn't catch Clockwork Orange but would be happy to see that, too. Given it's miserable rep (even worse than TFE), I've avoided it but would happy to hear it's not the bob already released...
I caught A Clockwork Orange in HD. It looked very nice, I wish I could have it in HD on a disc.
theforce8686 06-20-07, 03:22 PM Good for the format, but I could care less. I dont plan on wasting my money on those movies.
Stinky-Dinkins 06-20-07, 03:23 PM Good for the format, but I could care less. I dont plan on wasting my money on those movies.
You have 147 Blu Ray discs, your latest pickup was the Bridge to Terabithia, but you're not going to "waste" your money on a Kubrick boxset?
You're right though, The Shining hardly compares to Bridge to Terabithia.
theforce8686 06-20-07, 03:34 PM You have 147 Blu Ray discs, your latest pickup was the Bridge to Terabithia, but you're not going to "waste" your money on a Kubrick boxset?
You're right though, The Shining hardly compares to Bridge to Terabithia.
The Shining is the only title of his worth purchasing. I have no interest in any of his others and find him widely overated. I do feel bad for him that the last movie he released before he passed was Eyes Wide Shut. I felt like dying when I was watching it.
Stinky-Dinkins 06-20-07, 03:37 PM To each his own I guess... but to me FMJ and a Clockwork Orange are two to look forward to as well.
ShagMan 06-20-07, 03:51 PM To each his own I guess... but to me FMJ and a Clockwork Orange are two to look forward to as well.
2001 and Shining are my faves.
Rob Tomlin 06-20-07, 04:04 PM The Shining is the only title of his worth purchasing. I have no interest in any of his others and find him widely overated.
Kubrick over rated? Is it possible to "over rate" one of the best directors ever?
2001 is one of my all time hates. I don't see how ANYONE can sit there for 3 hours watching something that could have been told in 15 minutes. Half of the movie doesn't make any sense. The other half is like watching paint dry.
Seriously, it's a snooze fest.
Rob Tomlin 06-20-07, 04:18 PM 2001 is one of my all time hates. I don't see how ANYONE can sit there for 3 hours watching something that could have been told in 15 minutes. Half of the movie doesn't make any sense. The other half is like watching paint dry.
Seriously, it's a snooze fest.
And what exactly do you think could have been "told" in 15 minutes?
Maybe something like world craziest car chases+explotions is more up your alley.
theforce8686 06-20-07, 04:23 PM Kubrick over rated? Is it possible to "over rate" one of the best directors ever?
Calling him one of the best directors ever is over rating him. I dont rate him top 20. But that is my opinion. Thats a great thing about movies is that we can all have opinions.
swanlee 06-20-07, 04:25 PM I'm first in line for this set. Clockwork Orange is my favorite movie of all time and the rest of the collection is well worth it. These are the types of movies that are worthy of being archived to HD.
Kubrick movies are not for everyone but there is no denying he is one of the most innovative directors of all time.
And what exactly do you think could have been "told" in 15 minutes?
That entire movie. About technology and its relation to man...you know, the really dumb and boring crap...
John Ballentine 06-20-07, 04:28 PM You have 147 Blu Ray discs, your latest pickup was the Bridge to Terabithia, but you're not going to "waste" your money on a Kubrick boxset?
You're right though, The Shining hardly compares to Bridge to Terabithia.
:D :D :D
Rob Tomlin 06-20-07, 04:28 PM That entire movie. About technology and its relation to man...you know, the really dumb and boring crap...
Ah yes. I can see that you have a very enlightened view of the movie. Thanks for sharing! :rolleyes:
Eyes Wide Shut was directed by Spielberg.
Full Metal Jacket was good in the beginning but starts to fall apart in the back half..."me love you short time!"
Clockwork was mildly amusing but certainly no masterpiece. Perhaps he could have made the entire film in the double speed of the scene where the main character has sex with 2 women?
Shining was mildly scary in certain scenes. Again, could have been told in half the time.
So why exactly are you people so enamoured with Kubrick? :confused:
Stinky-Dinkins 06-20-07, 04:34 PM No Lolita?
Famous last words.
bboisvert 06-20-07, 04:39 PM Again, could have been told in half the time.
Does your BD player have a 2x speed option?
Maybe you can push that and help turn these boring films into masterpieces? ;)
See, and this is just my own personal opinion. Kubrick is a directors' director. A good analogy would be that there are many writers out there who are in love with prose more than good story telling. For me it's is more important to get the story right than the prose right. Form following function. Other writers might be in love with the technical side of writing but most people have no interest in that.
Kurbrick, unfortunately, falls in the former camp where the film as an art form has more meaning than story telling. That's why many of his movies have scenes where the viewer doesn't know where the hell he's going with the plot. The artistic, avant-garde side of film takes over and plot takes a back seat. To me, that's definitely not worth my time.
Does your BD player have a 2x speed option?
Maybe you can push that and help turn these boring films into masterpieces? ;)
I actually really love the first half of Full Metal jacket. I thought the boot camp scenes were some of the most memorable and unique in war movies. There was tremendous tension and character development. But the movie felt as if it were two different movies spliced together.
The second half of the movie in Vietnam had non of the character development or tension of the first. It was a more traditional Vietnam flick that we've seen elsewhere. The movie fell apart after the first half.
Eyes Wide Shut was directed by Spielberg.
No, that was A.I.
No, that was A.I.
You're right, I forgot.
I actually liked Eyes Wide Shut but I think Closer was better at exposing the frailty of relationships and our sexuality.
rexdigital 06-20-07, 05:00 PM The OAR of "The Shining" was 1:85-1 in the theaters. That's how I first saw it, loved it and would like to see it again...
That storyboard from The Kubrick book confirms the intended AR as well....
Which "Kubrick book" is that exactly?
Those are Stanley's comments on the sheet isn't it?
(you can tell the way its worded heh heh)
Dave Mack 06-20-07, 05:01 PM Man, alot of threadfarts in here.
Here's a thought, you don't like Kubrick or his films, move on.....
Let us boring old farts who like "slow" films enjoy and discuss them here...
bboisvert 06-20-07, 05:10 PM Which "Kubrick book" is that exactly?
It's the Stanley Kubrick Archives book that came out 2 years ago:
http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-Kubrick-Archives-Alison-Castle/dp/3822822841/102-1034688-6259313?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1182373421&sr=8-2
Page 452, if you have one handy.
Those are Stanley's comments on the sheet isn't it?
(you can tell the way its worded heh heh)
The sarcasm isn't coming across 100%, but are you trying to imply that Kubrick *didn't* intend the film to be 1.85:1... that someone else put detailed aspect ratio notes on a storyboard without the director's knowledge?
If you think that, you don't know much about how meticulous Kubrick was. (And, for what it's worth, the book specifically says that those notes are "Kubrick's instructions for the crew").
vatraps 06-20-07, 06:42 PM Kubrick is my favorite director. Can't wait to see and listen to 2001 in glorious HD. I hope the transfers are done lovingly.
When would this be released?
Are they re-releasing FMJ?
I wouldn't be surprised if it'll be the same version that's out now but here's to hoping. :)
Rob Tomlin 06-20-07, 06:56 PM Does your BD player have a 2x speed option?
Maybe you can push that and help turn these boring films into masterpieces?;)
:p
I actually really love the first half of Full Metal jacket. I thought the boot camp scenes were some of the most memorable and unique in war movies. There was tremendous tension and character development. But the movie felt as if it were two different movies spliced together.
NO WAY!?! Two, two, two movies in one? For the love of God how could this be.
A guy goes to boot camp and then bam, the movie switches to the same guy IN THE WAR?
What the hell was that nutball Kubrick thinking.
The second half of the movie in Vietnam had non of the character development or tension of the first. It was a more traditional Vietnam flick that we've seen elsewhere. The movie fell apart after the first half.
Those Army dudes were so kickback they were singing the Mickey Mouse Mouseketeer theme song right in the middle of that gol dang Tet Offensive.
Rob Tomlin 06-20-07, 07:37 PM NO WAY!?! Two, two, two movies in one? For the love of God how could this be.
A guy goes to boot camp and then bam, the movie switches to the same guy IN THE WAR?
What the hell was that nutball Kubrick thinking.
Exactly. I mean, this was cutting edge stuff! Who else but Kubrick would have the balls to do this?
;)
Bill C. 06-20-07, 08:43 PM Okay, so we've definitely established that this set won't sell to most of the folks who brought Crank and a few folks who bought Bridge to Terabithia (or Doom on the HD DVD side). :)
That's okay. That means I shouldn't have a problem getting my set and getting my Kubrick on (especially since I've never seen The Shining).
Never seen The Shining? :eek:
Wow. I remember when I read someone hadn't seen any Star Wars films. That my friend, is shock.
rexdigital 06-21-07, 12:49 AM It's the Stanley Kubrick Archives book that came out 2 years ago:
http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-Kubrick-Archives-Alison-Castle/dp/3822822841/102-1034688-6259313?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1182373421&sr=8-2
Page 452, if you have one handy.
The sarcasm isn't coming across 100%, but are you trying to imply that Kubrick *didn't* intend the film to be 1.85:1... that someone else put detailed aspect ratio notes on a storyboard without the director's knowledge?
If you think that, you don't know much about how meticulous Kubrick was. (And, for what it's worth, the book specifically says that those notes are "Kubrick's instructions for the crew").
No, nothing of the kind.
Stanley is one of my personal heroes.
Thanks for the book link!
Electone 06-21-07, 10:53 AM I love Kubrick's films because I rarely understand them the first time I watch them. They make me think. I can think of no other director that shoots in his style. Could some of the films be shorter? Sure, but why?
I pity the poor people who don't appreciate Kubrick's work. Even when his films are "failures", they are always interesting.
Take The Shining, for example. Not a perfect movie: Shelley Duvall and the kid are just horrible. But watch how Nicholson slowly descends into madness. And the scene where she picks up the pages from his novel ("All work and no play...") is more disturbing to me than anything I ever saw in the Jason movies.
Just recently saw The Killing, Kubrick's first commercial film, on TNT. It's just a cheap B-grade crime heist movie from the 50's, but fascinating in the way it uses a non-linear plot structure. Years ahead of its time.
Perhaps my favorite Kubrick film is the WWI flick Days of Glory. Maybe the best performance of Kirk Douglas' career. Especially notable for those incredible tracking shots through the trenches.
Back on topic: probably no film needs an upgrade to Blu-Ray more than 2001. I have the remastered DVD from a couple of years ago. It's full of digital artifacts, particularly banding in the high contrast space scenes. And the soundtrack is begging for an upgrade.
Rob Tomlin 06-22-07, 05:53 PM 2001 is one of my all time hates. I don't see how ANYONE can sit there for 3 hours watching something that could have been told in 15 minutes. Half of the movie doesn't make any sense. The other half is like watching paint dry.
Seriously, it's a snooze fest.
AFI just placed this "snoozefest" at number 15 on their all time greatest movies list:
http://www.eventsquarterly.com/blog/?p=5904
Imagine that! :eek: ;) :p
swanlee 06-22-07, 05:57 PM YEAH!
A Clockwork orange at number 70.
Kubrick has a number of movies on this list.
2001 is one of my all time hates. I don't see how ANYONE can sit there for 3 hours watching something that could have been told in 15 minutes. Half of the movie doesn't make any sense. The other half is like watching paint dry.
Seriously, it's a snooze fest.
You sound like a Independence Day kinda guy! ;)
Seriously, the movie is not as obtuse as it seems. Read the novelization by Arthur C. Clarke; the last half and ending in the white room will all become clear. Trust me! It will make sense.
If u like true, thought-provoking sci-fi, 2001 is one of the greats. It's not on several Best lists for nothing. If one doesn't "get it", one can always go back to Michael Bay flicks :p
Personally, I've been anxiously awaiting 2001, Clockwork and Shining on HD since they were first announced early yr.
ss9001
..(especially since I've never seen The Shining).
:eek:
You are in for a treat. Probably Stephen King's best story.
If u are a Nicholson fan, you will not be disappointed!
ss9001
SycamoreSeej 11-06-10, 03:46 PM Saw FMJ in BD at WalFart this past week. My dad (being the big Kubrick fan in the family) has been waiting for this since the box set came out. Any news on a new dvd version of the blue ray?
thefilmaker 11-15-10, 08:31 AM Hollywood is making movies just for kids or mentally retarded people. It seems that everybody can appreciate just cartoons, super-hero movies ecc.
Stanley Kubrick is maybe the only great artist and filmaker who has produced wonderful art movies for the masses.
I understand that not everyone can appreciate a cinema that has the depth of Ingmar Bergman and enjoyment of the best American film genre.
But I want those people to allow me to suggest that cinema is not only Walt Disney and Pirates of the Caribbean. That life is complex.
The studios want to sell you films like Harry Potter, because they believe that you are able to understand and appreciate film with only a very low level of content.
I do not think so, so my advice is to open your mind and maybe begin to see the best of European cinema.
I pity the poor people who don't appreciate Kubrick's work. Even when his films are "failures", they are always interesting.
Take The Shining, for example. Not a perfect movie: Shelley Duvall and the kid are just horrible. But watch how Nicholson slowly descends into madness. And the scene where she picks up the pages from his novel ("All work and no play...") is more disturbing to me than anything I ever saw in the Jason movies.
Just recently saw The Killing, Kubrick's first commercial film, on TNT. It's just a cheap B-grade crime heist movie from the 50's, but fascinating in the way it uses a non-linear plot structure. Years ahead of its time.
Perhaps my favorite Kubrick film is the WWI flick Days of Glory. Maybe the best performance of Kirk Douglas' career. Especially notable for those incredible tracking shots through the trenches.
Back on topic: probably no film needs an upgrade to Blu-Ray more than 2001. I have the remastered DVD from a couple of years ago. It's full of digital artifacts, particularly banding in the high contrast space scenes. And the soundtrack is begging for an upgrade.
That would be Paths of Glory.
khronikos 11-16-10, 05:35 AM Number one, Kubrick's films were never for the masses. That is ridiculous. Second, there are many artistic directors who have done the same in slightly different ways and made a lot more money than he did at the box office.
PooperScooper 11-16-10, 07:39 AM If you want to talk about Kubrick movies please start a thread in the movies forum. Thanks.
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