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Can anyone get resume play to work on these titles?
Up until now, I have had resume paly work on BD (BD-P1000 updated)
Could this be similar to the conflict between advanced content and resume that HD DVD has?
I think it's the Java causing that issue. The Descent BR is the same way.
Same deal with no resuming on my DMP-BD10. :(
Same deal with no resuming on my DMP-BD10. :(
I have a buddy with the panasonic, same thing...
hollywoodguy 05-23-07, 07:48 PM It's not a player issue, it's a Java issue. Resume play also doesn't work on Speed or LXG.
Dr Kain 05-23-07, 08:30 PM Meh, I got used to that with HD-DVD. The moment you hit stop, you have to restart the movie from teh beginning.
Jeff Williams 05-23-07, 08:36 PM Could this be similar to the conflict between advanced content and resume that HD DVD has?
It's not just similar, but exactly the same thing. Trust me, I hear you. I just wish the industry as a whole would.
highdefsw 05-23-07, 09:52 PM No resume play on the PS3! Got half way through the movie and hit stop, had to skip through the chapters to finish.
Jedi2016 05-23-07, 11:46 PM That's odd, because the PS3 normally has Resume as long as you don't power it off in between viewings. Which is odd, but there it is. I did it the other day with Planet Earth, just left the PS3 running for a few hours while I went out and did something else, then came back and started the disc back up without a problem.
I haven't tried it on POTC yet, though. Haven't even watched the discs yet, I just flipped through the first one for a bit. I'll try it tomorrow, especially since we're supposed to get a firmware update for the PS3 tomorrow, could be something in there that will help.
darinp2 05-24-07, 02:28 AM I really like the menu for the 2nd POTC, but this trading advanced menus for resume just seems like something much of the population won't want to do. I said it before related to HD DVD. People are used to the $30 DVD players supporting resume. Seems to me that this is an important feature to not lose when trying to get people to move to a format that should be better than what they are used to. Many of us are extreme enough to live with all sorts of things for better picture and/or sound, but that doesn't really apply to the general population.
I hope this lack of resume is a temporary thing and within a the next year it is behind us and all high definition discs support resume.
--Darin
Oh my god, both Blu Ray and HD-DVD share the same defect in authoring/design with omitting the resume feature!
tutelary 05-24-07, 10:28 AM The more I hear about crap like this, the better I feel about not having a player yet. No resume, how incredibly stupid.
skibum5000 05-25-07, 02:52 PM Can anyone get resume play to work on these titles?
Up until now, I have had resume paly work on BD (BD-P1000 updated)
Could this be similar to the conflict between advanced content and resume that HD DVD has?
yeah, sucks. the new bluray titles DD, POTC, don't seem to allow it anymore (i'm using powerdvd). the fact that blurray did and hd dvd didnt had pushed in favor of buying blurays versions before, providing all else was equal. even worse, at least with powerdvd, they have disabled the bookmarking feature on these.
skibum5000 05-25-07, 02:54 PM Oh my god, both Blu Ray and HD-DVD share the same defect in authoring/design with omitting the resume feature!
bluray used too. on all my older bluray titles (and all SD DVD new or old), resume worked even after rebooting or powering off my PC. it never worked for HD DVD. now bluray seems to have gone backwards an started authoring like HD DVD. why? :mad:
takes away one of the advantages bluray had over hd dvd.
hollywoodguy 05-25-07, 07:13 PM It is not a question of old and new, it is the authoring language. At the moment, Java titles like the Pirates movies, the Descent, Speed, LXG, etc. do not resume. Titles authored in movie mode do support resume, even if they are new titles.
With more and more Java titles, I sure hope resume is at all possible to do in the future.
ryoohki 05-25-07, 07:53 PM Welcome to the beautiful world of Advanced Authored Mode Movies, a thing that HD DVD owner know since the beggining...
BulkHedd 05-27-07, 03:39 PM Is there any chance that player firmware updates can fix this? I have a Samsung BD-P1000 and I'm very disappointed in it's performance with the POTC movies. It plays them but the menus load very slowly and the resume doesn't work. I sure am glad we have all these "advanced" features.
wildfire99 05-28-07, 12:19 AM Wow... the more I see, the more I feel like high-def media was a step backward. I mean, aside from the resolution bump (which isn't even guaranteed better than SD-DVD), it seems to do everything else wrong.
jameskollar 05-28-07, 01:00 AM Advantage HD-DVD. No longer gonna buy BD over HD DVD because of resume. In fact, I'll stick mostly with HD DVD since my set is calibrated for it (DVE, no such thing for BD) and bookmarking works on HD DVD. Don't know if it works with BD since I have a Universal remote and my code for bookmartk may be wrong (never had to use it before, never had to). Looks like I need to do some recoding.
So, to all you BD fanboys, welcome to HD DVD. :rolleyes:
Patrick Bennett 05-28-07, 01:16 AM Huh? The same problem is there for HD-DVD for the movies authored that way.
jameskollar 05-28-07, 01:41 AM Huh? The same problem is there for HD-DVD for the movies authored that way.
Yep. I hate that authoring method. So one of the main advantages to BD was the lack of such authoring. I prefer resume over bookmark in a big way! So now that BD is joining this blighted approach to authoring, I see no major difference in HD vs BD. For me, resume is a big deal. BD has blown that advantage.
BTW: Does bookmarking work for POTC?
Patrick Bennett 05-28-07, 01:53 AM Haven't tried bookmarking it yet...
I don't use bookmarking... [or resume typically]
I watch the movie... and put it away. :)
rolltide1017 05-28-07, 02:55 AM Welcome to the beautiful world of Advanced Authored Mode Movies, a thing that HD DVD owner know since the beggining...
Advanced my a$$. How can this be advanced when it doesn't even support a feature DVD has had since 1997, not to mention VHS had before then. All this "advanced authoring," "advanced features" and advanced this, advanced that is making me sick when neither format gets the little things right. I think the studios have lost sight of what this stuff is really for, watching the movie.
Is there any chance that player firmware updates can fix this? I have a Samsung BD-P1000 and I'm very disappointed in it's performance with the POTC movies. It plays them but the menus load very slowly and the resume doesn't work. I sure am glad we have all these "advanced" features.
I hear yea, I have the same player and the same problems. It's not just POTC but many newer BDs. I'm actually sending my player into Samsung this week, claiming that it is a defect, to see what they do about it. They will probably just send it back to me but, it is my ultimate way of saying "this is not the way this player should be functioning." I don't have the money to buy a new BD player every six months just to keep up with newer disc.
patrick99 05-28-07, 04:30 AM Welcome to the beautiful world of Advanced Authored Mode Movies, a thing that HD DVD owner know since the beggining...
How profoundly irritating. One of the things I most dislike about HD DVD. . . .
Frozen Sooner 05-28-07, 11:59 AM On the bright side, eventually the studios will figure out how to work resume into advanced menu authoring and the problem will go away for both formats. This is something that's been an irritant for me on HD DVD since I got into next-gen. I've been hearing for almost a year now that the fault lies with the studios and they'll eventually get this worked out.
BulkHedd 05-28-07, 12:01 PM I sent Samsung an e-mail about the problems and this was their response:
"We are aware of the issue and the latest firmware updates should correct this."
I'm not sure if they mean the current firmware or that they are working on a new update.
alfbinet 05-30-07, 08:16 PM I have the latest firmware update for my Panasonic BD10 player. There IS NO RESUME functionality on my player with either of the POTC discs. This was a major criticism of all the HD DVD players seems like both formats are looking more and more alike everyday.
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