Right now I am using my XBMC for viewing media, but with the 1.8 firmware update tomorrow the PS3 is looking better and better. I saw people in the 1.8 firmware update thread asking about DLNA and I thought I would make a separate thread for it. That way it will be easier to find the information.

It seems like DLNA servers are a stricter version of UPnP servers.

Are there any OS or cheap programs that work on Windows/Linux/Mac?

There is one by Twonky Vision for $40 (30 day free trial)
http://www.twonkyvision.com/Products/TwonkyMedia/index.html

Any others out there? Any information on DLNA in reference to how it works and usefulness with the PS3 would be appreciated, thanks!

This is all greek to me, so forgive my ignorance.

What I would really like to know is if this will play my collection of DVD .TS backups that I have on 4 500GB MyBook drives and how to get it to do it.

I'll keep reading here for any help.

Thanks,

THis is exactly what I am looking for as well... You can apparently buy NAS devices that are DLNA/UPnP so those would work, but if I can run some software on my PC that accesses the local hard drives and turns them into the same thing, then that would be a much nicer solution.

I dont really understand what's going on behind this announcement.

If I connect my pc to my receiver, doesn't that act as a media hub and serve the same purpose? (output video/audio to tv from computer)

I dont really understand what's going on behind this announcement.

If I connect my pc to my receiver, doesn't that act as a media hub and serve the same purpose? (output video/audio to tv from computer)


but your receiver can't access the media over a network (wireless or otherwise) using its own interface... you must use the PC and queue up the media there. DLNA inherently involves devices acting as remote players that connect wirelessly to a media server and use their own interface for access.

this is very intriguing, but i wonder how it works.

do we install this program on our pc (mine is winxp) and it'd recognize the ps3 on the network? or is there some other way and this prog needs to be installed on the ps3?

wonder if the ps3 will even have something similar installed via the 1.8 update. the rest of the week will be very exciting for ps3 owners.

The media server, or program needs to be able to stream media in multiple formats over the network using UPnP... I am guessing that DLNA provides some sort of framework for this transport mechanism and the PS3 will then be able to recognize the server and access media from it.

this is very intriguing, but i wonder how it works.

do we install this program on our pc (mine is winxp) and it'd recognize the ps3 on the network? or is there some other way and this prog needs to be installed on the ps3?

wonder if the ps3 will even have something similar installed via the 1.8 update. the rest of the week will be very exciting for ps3 owners.

I think it may be more like you install the SW on your PC, and when the firmware update comes, it will give the PS3 new SW to be able to access your PC. Then from your PS3 you could somehow "browse" all of your files. The PS3 needs some sort of SW installed on it though to manage the interface. I doubt Sony will provide such a thing.

I'm even more confused, but as long as some of you guys benefit from it, it's all good. :D

I'm even more confused, but as long as some of you guys benefit from it, it's all good. :D


at the very least I am hoping I can stop having to use my laptop and itunes hooked up to my receiver to get music from my desktop PC upstairs to where I have my HT setup downstairs...

http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/products/main_111_ENU.html

$80 is too much IMO, I like the sound Twonky one better.

Anymore out there, free ones?

at the very least I am hoping I can stop having to use my laptop and itunes hooked up to my receiver to get music from my desktop PC upstairs to where I have my HT setup downstairs...

yep, and i'm hoping to not need to build a htpc for that purpose as i need to save money for hdmi receiver.

http://www.tversity.com/home

I believe that's free.

We wont know for sure until the update hits and it can be tried, but here is a free server...

http://www.slimdevices.com/su_downloads.html ** update, tried it, doesnt work :(

This one is geared toward music though and I dont think it does video.
DLNA and UPNP are very close, and its likely that some UPNP servers will work as well. There's a very outside chance that the XBMC software might work, if it supports the right standards...

Don't buy or install anything yet, wait for the update and see what is actually needed and what works well for people.

http://fuppes.ulrich-voelkel.de/
http://ushare.geexbox.org/

here's a couple of linux based open upnp servers. i'll have to see if these work with the ps3

http://www.tversity.com/home

I believe that's free.

that also says supporting ps3 already, anyone try it?

that also says supporting ps3 already, anyone try it?

That's the old web browser interface, nothing about the new XBM yet.

that also says supporting ps3 already, anyone try it?
Well it works, but it's through the PS3 web browser. It's OK for playing MP3s or low resolution video.

Playing my dvds would b great. I rip them to a Video_Ts folder for each one, with the standard ifo, bup, files etc... Would the server have to support streaming this type of material specifically? Using my pc to watch movies gets old.

So with this we should be able to play files that are larger than 2gigs?

im getting confused by this thread. For DNLA compliance, dont you need a DNLA server? What will the upnp servers do or are they close enough to DNLA?

Looks like Windows Home Server is DNLA 1.0 compliant.

DNLA and UPNP are similar. I have a few DNLA devices that are able to see some UPNP servers also. Its just one of those things that will have to be tried once the update is out.

I think it may be more like you install the SW on your PC, and when the firmware update comes, it will give the PS3 new SW to be able to access your PC. Then from your PS3 you could somehow "browse" all of your files. The PS3 needs some sort of SW installed on it though to manage the interface. I doubt Sony will provide such a thing.

I disagree. I think that Sony will provide some generic or XMB-ish system as the interface because no one else can put it on the PS3 (at least not in game os). If they don't make the interface then it wouldn't be able to do anything.

I disagree. I think that Sony will provide some generic or XMB-ish system as the interface because no one else can put it on the PS3 (at least not in game os). If they don't make the interface then it wouldn't be able to do anything.

and most console users don't know their way around a pc enough to know what to install and configure to make everything work right.

Windows Media Player 11 has a DLNA server built in. Click Library -> Media Sharing. I'm going to try that first before downloading anything else.

I disagree. I think that Sony will provide some generic or XMB-ish system as the interface because no one else can put it on the PS3 (at least not in game os). If they don't make the interface then it wouldn't be able to do anything.

I hope you are right.

Windows Media Player 11 has a DLNA server built in. Click Library -> Media Sharing. I'm going to try that first before downloading anything else.

that's useful if u have a htpc downstairs and all the content is on ur main pc in a different room on the the network. u can use wmp11 on the htpc to stream content and output to ur home theater.

most of us are trying to stream media from pc to ps3 tho, not from ps3 to pc.

that's useful if u have a htpc downstairs and all the content is on ur main pc in a different room on the the network. u can use wmp11 on the htpc to stream content and output to ur home theater.

most of us are trying to stream media from pc to ps3 tho, not from ps3 to pc.

Not sure what you mean by the last part. The PC is the server, PS3 is the client.

Not sure what you mean by the last part. The PC is the server, PS3 is the client.

yes but the ps3 doesnt have wmp11, so what i gathered from your earlier post was would make pc the server rather than the ps3 if ur using wmp11 as the player.

The program running on the PS3 is a client. It connects to a DLNA/UPNP server, allows you to browse the content on the server, and then streams audio, video, or pictures from the server.

There are numerous software DLNA/UPNP servers that you can run on a PC. As I mentioned, Media Player 11 includes a server, so if you already have that installed you could try that first.

yes but the ps3 doesnt have wmp11, so what i gathered from your earlier post was would make pc the server rather than the ps3 if ur using wmp11 as the player.

you don't use wmp11 as the player, it is the server. then the ps3 can see its media. i don't have wmp11 so i don't know any details but that's what they are saying.

Right now I am using my XBMC for viewing media, but with the 1.8 firmware update tomorrow the PS3 is looking better and better. I saw people in the 1.8 firmware update thread asking about DLNA and I thought I would make a separate thread for it. That way it will be easier to find the information.

It seems like DLNA servers are a stricter version of UPnP servers.

Are there any OS or cheap programs that work on Windows/Linux/Mac?

There is one by Twonky Vision for $40 (30 day free trial)
http://www.twonkyvision.com/Products/TwonkyMedia/index.html

Any others out there? Any information on DLNA in reference to how it works and usefulness with the PS3 would be appreciated, thanks!

This is going to be a treat...

I run Ubuntu and really like it, now see this:

http://elisa.fluendo.com/screenshots/

Sweet....

yes but the ps3 doesnt have wmp11, so what i gathered from your earlier post was would make pc the server rather than the ps3 if ur using wmp11 as the player.

The PS3 does not need to have WMP11. WMP11 will share the music over the network to the PS3 via DLNA protocol. You need WMP11 on your PC for the PS3 to be able to access the media on the PC.

I hope that clears up the issue for you. To be honest, I don't really have any idea what you were trying to say. Grammar is good ;)

This is going to be a treat...

I run Ubuntu and really like it, now see this:

http://elisa.fluendo.com/screenshots/

Sweet....

That looks pretty sweet, but I am not sure that it runs a DLNA server. It might be just a client. It does state that it can share media with DLNA devices so it might also be a server. I guess just try it and let us know! :)

That looks pretty sweet, but I am not sure that it runs a DLNA server. It might be just a client. It does state that it can share media with DLNA devices so it might also be a server. I guess just try it and let us know! :)

"Elisa supports DLNA compliant upnp multimedia devices. This means photos, music and videos shared from such devices are available in Elisa. Elisa is also able to share its own files to upnp enabled devices."

***Just installed have not tested, due to WAF will have to wait til tomorrow***

The PS3 sees my vista machine as Windows Media Player 11, seems like you would just add your audio and video files to that to access them on the PS3.

It will search for other devices, but I don't see a way to manually add a \\server\share at least not yet.

Setting for 1080p/24 is there, and there are multiple settings for PS1&2 and DVD upscaling.

If somebody gets me access to the DLNA Guidelines specification document, I will check if I could code a workable DLNA server.

I was able to use uShare (http://ushare.geexbox.org/) on my Debian box and it seems to be seen just fine. A couple videos I had that were mpeg2 worked. For some reason I could not get mp3 audio to play. And I don't really have any PS3 compatible video.

It's interesting, but it won't be useful until PS3 compatible video becomes more common, or they add support for other codecs (mpeg4!).

If anyone finds a good UPnP linux server let me know. I am not sure if uShare is the reason the mp3s aren't playing or if its the PS3.

I tried gmediastreamer but that never even got recognized by the PS3.


I guess I will play around with WMP and see how it works.

I set up WMP 11 to allow the PS3 and I'm seeing my media collection just fine. Minus WMV videos of course, maybe that will come in a future update.

This is hands down the best update for the PS3 to date.

WMP 11 Works!

All you need to do is turn on your ps3.

have windows media player 11 installed.

In windows media player go to Tools>options>Library

Click on the configure sharing button.

You should see Unkown Device or Ps3 listed there.

Click on Allow.

You may want to play around with the settings.

Thats it!

Go back to your ps3 and search for servers!



Thanks microsoft

We wont know for sure until the update hits and it can be tried, but here is a free server...

http://www.slimdevices.com/su_downloads.html

This one is geared toward music though and I dont think it does video.
DLNA and UPNP are very close, and its likely that some UPNP servers will work as well. There's a very outside chance that the XBMC software might work, if it supports the right standards...
DLNA website claims some support fo UPnP. The update is out now though so people can experiment for themselves. lol and that post was from yesterday.

I am having problems with long audio files... I have several concerts recorded as single mp3 files (downloaded from NPR) and the times are showing up incorrectly, and the ps3 is stopping at the incorrect length. Dont know if it is a media player issue (its dlna server, which I am using) or with the ps3. a 1hr10min concert stopped at 34min. ps3 shows it as 34min in length.

Another problem is that I can't get the PS3 to play stream whole albums. It only plays one track at a time, and the tracks as listed on the PS3 are in the incorrect order even though my tagging is correct.

in regards to media streaming, im not 2 impressed. you can't play whole albums, it doesn't shows the files by track order (or alphabetical order for that matter) and you have to be in the music app to play music. at least it's in there and that's a good start, but they still have a long ways to go.

pictures seem to work ok, but video is hit or miss. some work, some dont...but thats understandable with all the diff codecs out there.

at least its a step in the right direction tho. once they impliment id3's better, in game music, and xmb music, theyll be close to where the 360 is.

I agree, bdizzle. Why they couldn't implement ID3 is beyond me, but yes, it's a step in the general direction.

A fine update.

Isn't it the server that is responsible for reading and sending the metadata (id3 or whatever) to the client? It may be that your server is not properly reading the file metadata or sending it in a format the PS3 understands. We've come a very long way in one firmware update and it may take a little while to get the servers tweaked to support the PS3.

WMP 11 Works!

All you need to do is turn on your ps3.

have windows media player 11 installed.

In windows media player go to Tools>options>Library

Click on the configure sharing button.

You should see Unkown Device or Ps3 listed there.

Click on Allow.

You may want to play around with the settings.

Thats it!

Go back to your ps3 and search for servers!



Thanks microsoft

I can get as far as 'Click on Allow', but Allow doesn't light up for me to click it. Any idea why?

orb ( http://www.orb.com ) seems to work very well for the mp3's and pictures, it works for videos downloaded from the replaytv's but not much else.

I can get as far as 'Click on Allow', but Allow doesn't light up for me to click it. Any idea why?
Mine is working (Vista/WMP11) and I CANNOT click on the "Allow" button either. I clicked on the "Settings" button first and ticked the "Allow new devices and computers automatically (not recommended)". This immediately allowed the PS3 to work. Then I turned it off and the PS3 has continued to work. My PS3 shows up as "Unknown" in the list with a green check mark icon on it. I can right click that icon to make some changes.

I too have to wonder if it is a DLNA server issue.

I can see the PS3 and my PS3 can see WMP11. However, I can't see any files in the library. No pictures, no DVDs, no video clips. Nuttin.

Nevermind. I hadn't added anything to the library, that's why nothing showed up. This is going to be a lot of work. Ripped dvd folders/Discs don't show up. I think I'm going to have to re-rip and convert to single file.

You can losslessly remux VOBs to a single .mpg file that the PS3 will play. These were reported to stream by someone at another forum. But you lose subtitles, menus, chapters, etc when you go with .mpg.

But I wouldn't rush off and start converting everything yet. It will likely takes weeks or longer before everything is known about how the PS3 streams. And the servers will likely need to be tweaked to handle the PS3 optimally.

I can see the PS3 and my PS3 can see WMP11. However, I can't see any files in the library. No pictures, no DVDs, no video clips. Nuttin.

I think i need to change a router settings, I made those changes in the settings of WMP11 but my ps3 is not find it nor is the WMP11 seeing the ps3, I wonder what im doing wrong, any thoughts, Im running XP

Anybody know of any good programs that will stream my media to the PS3 besides WMP11. Right now wmp11 won't install on my PC. Plus I hate wmp11. It has given me lots of headaches. The 360 cannot see it.

Anyway, I don't mind paying for a program if it's good. Anyone have any suggestions?

I'm trying TVersity since it's already on my PC but can't get it to work. The PS3 finds the server but MP3s are showing up as unsupported file types. In video it sees my mpg files just fine but when I click on one it trys to play and then I get an error message saying upsupported file type.

I can't believe that someone out there hasn't made a paid product to meet these needs yet. Capitalism..............where are you?

WMP 11 Works!

All you need to do is turn on your ps3.

have windows media player 11 installed.

In windows media player go to Tools>options>Library

Click on the configure sharing button.

You should see Unkown Device or Ps3 listed there.

Click on Allow.

You may want to play around with the settings.

Thats it!

Go back to your ps3 and search for servers!



Thanks microsoft


I know this question been ask alot, but I have WMP11 install on PC and have the share button check, but MY PC and PS3 keep saying no device is found. Since I'm wireless and using a route for my PC is that causing a problem. MY PS3 is hook up to the route. Any help you be nice.

Thank,

You buys can use Nero Mediahome and transcode on the fly avi files to the ps3.

Works very well.

Isn't it the server that is responsible for reading and sending the metadata (id3 or whatever) to the client? It may be that your server is not properly reading the file metadata or sending it in a format the PS3 understands. We've come a very long way in one firmware update and it may take a little while to get the servers tweaked to support the PS3.

I don't think it's my tags. I spent a lot of time getting them right. Other apps that ive used like itunes and every ver of wmp works fine. ill try some more apps when i get home, but i doubt its the tags. when i check the files in diff id3 editors, they all come up fine as well.

I know this question been ask alot, but I have WMP11 install on PC and have the share button check, but MY PC and PS3 keep saying no device is found. Since I'm wireless and using a route for my PC is that causing a problem. MY PS3 is hook up to the route. Any help you be nice.

Thank,

make sure either your firewall on your pc is off, or that it is allowing wmp11 to share files. also check your wmp11 library settings to make sure sharing is enabled.

i was getting an error message, but rebooting my computer fixed it

WMP 11 Works!

All you need to do is turn on your ps3.

have windows media player 11 installed.

In windows media player go to Tools>options>Library

Click on the configure sharing button.

You should see Unkown Device or Ps3 listed there.

Click on Allow.

You may want to play around with the settings.

Thats it!

Go back to your ps3 and search for servers!



Thanks microsoft


Yes, it works! PS3 shown up as an Unknown Device in WMP11 on my XP Pro box. However, PS3 doesn't recognize my video files (prob. the CODECs are not supported yet by the firmware... well, I can use my 360 for that :p ) but pictures and musics work like a charm! MS isn't really that bad after all :D

I can get as far as 'Click on Allow', but Allow doesn't light up for me to click it. Any idea why?

Then it is enabled for you automatically! :D You can fiddle around the settings to disable this feature.

This link (http://www.intervideo.com/jsp/WinDVDMCE_Profile.jsp) shows a media center software product that may work with the PS3.

Any thoughts?

i can see my wmp11 player on the ps3 but it shows no files. this is mp3 music so its not a compatibility issue. ???? halp

Another link (http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/products/main_111_ENU.html)

You buys can use Nero Mediahome and transcode on the fly avi files to the ps3.

Works very well.

I was thinking about this. Do you have any info on how well it works with HD content? What are your computer/network specs?

I hooked up twonkey on my mac and it works. Videos are tiny tho, low rez I guess. I also don't get album artwork which is a bummer. It also doesn't recognize JPG extensions (all caps) I
'll have to confirm that. I had a folder with iamges.JPG and none would display but a directory back images.jpg would display without issue.

So a quick and easier than MeidaCentral way to get mp3s to play and mpgs, just could use more features, tweaks.

Any other mac options? Or should I start a mac specific thread?

thanks to those that responded to my post, really cleared things up. i'm gonna try to get my network going tonight.

those w/o WMP11 on their windows pc, isn't it as simple as running windows update?

wonder how well transcode on the fly works with wireless LAN.

anyone know if the VLC LAN player is DLNA capable and can transcode on the fly? ability to stream .mkv and .ts would be great.

The photos that sony put out before the update showed album art working... but I have yet to see anyone actually get it working themselves.

And yes, the server is responsible for all the tag info and sorting.

I can't wait to mess with this tonight. Something tells me that I won't be able to get it to work though, since I'm not very good with networks. Also, my PS3 says that UPnP is not enabled, even though my router supports it.

I don't think it's my tags. I spent a lot of time getting them right. Other apps that ive used like itunes and every ver of wmp works fine. ill try some more apps when i get home, but i doubt its the tags. when i check the files in diff id3 editors, they all come up fine as well.



make sure either your firewall on your pc is off, or that it is allowing wmp11 to share files. also check your wmp11 library settings to make sure sharing is enabled.

i was getting an error message, but rebooting my computer fixed it


Thank you Bdizzle everything is working now.

I got it to work. Here are some step if someone don't know, Hope this can help someone. Because I have a hard time to figure this out until bdizzle said check the firewall.

PC:
Open up WMP11 if you have it
go to Tools-Options-Library
Then Configure Sharing click that
Then check the Share my media, but you will see Unknown Device but that the PS3.

If you use a route like me and have MS Windows Live one Care running you will have to open up Onelive Care and then go to the Firewall connection tool and click Share content with network media players.

Now I don't have to put any memory card or anything in now. PS3 Media servers will have everything.

Is there a DNLA server that will stream AAC files? I've ripped most of my music to AAC with iTunes, but I'll convert it all if I have to. And speaking of that, is there a program that will do a batch conversion?

the ps3 supports aac i believe, it's one of the settings listed under ripping audio cd's to the ps3's hard drive.

Another link (http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/products/main_111_ENU.html)

VLC has the ability listed, but I haven't actually used it for anything other than playback of media. If you can wait a bit might be worth it. I'm not a big WMP11 fan (don't remember why though!) so I'm going to be looking for alternatives as well.

Another to try...

http://www.jrmediacenter.com/index.html

info on upnp setup....

http://www.jrmediacenter.com/UPnP.html
update 11:15 pm 5/24 --- Jrmediacenter does not work currently, but their developers are extremely helpful and are already providing help in their forums on how to get it working. Pictures currently work, music does not. The browsing and organization setup in the software is EXCELLENT, so I hope we can make progress here... no transcoding that I see...

another to try...

http://www.simplecenter.com/features.html
update 11:15 pm 5/24 --- Simplecenter works! Album songs are played in order! Organization not as strong as jrmedia. Videos work as long as they are in a ps3 compatible format!! Photos work!! Does NOT do transcoding... thats the only drawback, also not a free program

the ps3 supports aac i believe, it's one of the settings listed under ripping audio cd's to the ps3's hard drive.

I thought it did. Maybe it's because I'm using TwonkyVision, which doesn't list AAC as a supported format.

i installed nero mediahome and set up the server. my ps3 sees the server but none of the files on it. ???????????????

Not wanting to download windows media player 11, I've downloaded and installed Windows Media Connect 2.0. This does work and is recognized by the PS3. I don't know if the problems WMP11 users are having with music files are similar to mine, but here's the deal.

For some reason, Windows Media Connect is streaming my MP3 files to the PS3 as PCM. I can confirm this by the ridiculous file size of a song if I try to copy it to my PS3. (That and it nicely lists the format right on the file).

I've since downloaded the TwonkyVision (30 day trial. Damn!) application. This is working very well. I can browse my pictures on my HD and they show the pics as thumbnails in the XMB. I can start a slideshow with the pics on my PC. MP3s are distributed as MP3s. Album art does not show, however... if you copy the MP3s to your PS3 HD, the album art from the tags is intact.

I was previously using TVersity and I could not get that working properly. I believe the issue with TVersity is that it's designed for use through a web browser interface. If you notice in TVersity, when browsing to mp3's on your PC, it invokes TVersity's MP3 player, with option to download the file only after it's started playing on the TVersity player. I believe that this is why, when browsing to your mp3s, you get unsupported data. It's not reading the MP3 directly, it's probably invoking the TVersity media player. Just my thoughts. I fought with it for a bit, then moved on.
Why it would try to invoke the TVersity player, when it's DLNA compliant, I don't know.

Another to try...

http://www.jrmediacenter.com/index.html

info on upnp setup....

http://www.jrmediacenter.com/UPnP.html

another to try...

http://www.simplecenter.com/features.html
jr media center looks cool. But i would really like to be able to stream my protected AAC itunes songs I bought off itunes. I wonder if any software program would do that?

jr media center looks cool. But i would really like to be able to stream my protected AAC itunes songs I bought off itunes. I wonder if any software program would do that?


I have not tested it, as I don't have any DRM protected MP3s, but TwonkyMedia mentions this:

interfaces to 3rd party applications like iTunes, Winamp, Adobe Photoshop Album,

I remember during the installation it mentioned something about iTunes. Might be worth a shot.

More info:
http://www.twonkyvision.com/Products/TwonkyMedia/index.html

I have not tested it, as I don't have any DRM protected MP3s, but TwonkyMedia mentions this:

interfaces to 3rd party applications like iTunes, Winamp, Adobe Photoshop Album,

I remember during the installation it mentioned something about iTunes. Might be worth a shot.

More info:
http://www.twonkyvision.com/Products/TwonkyMedia/index.html

I suspect the interface will be equivalent to non DRM music in the iTunes library. Would be neat if it would automatically do the conversion, but if not there is manual way to strip it.

I purchased Vista Home Basic OEM a few days before I knew the update with DLNA was coming.

Does WMP11 in Vista Home Basic have DLNA networking?

I purchased Vista Home Basic OEM a few days before I knew the update with DLNA was coming.

Does WMP11 in Vista Home Basic have DLNA networking?

WMP11 on any OS has DLNA networking. Just enable classic menus. go to tools,options, media library, add your media, then go to sharing. find your ps3, enable sharing and your ps3 with autodiscover all your media on your pc.

I am personally about to go try out nero mediahome and see if that is any nicer than wmp11.

So far with wmp11 I am able to stream any mp3 or picture however I am unsure what video formats are supported because I cannot stream anything hi def tv.

I've done everything I can think of but can't get WMP11 to see the PS3. No devices at all are shown in the sharing setup window.

I have a Linksys BEFSR41 router, updated to the lastest firmware, enabled UPnP. Even opened all the ports (don't know if you need to do that?)

Installed UPnP driver in Windows (XP SP2). NOT using Windows Firewall (it is OFF).

Rebooted everything several times etc... Nada, nothing... What am I doing wrong??

did you tell the ps3 to scan for servers?

Sure about 20 times... it always says 'no media servers found'

The pc part of it is pretty simple, just open WMP11 and go to tools/options/library tab and the the sharing menu and tick the button for allow sharing and go through the setup.

If your firewall is off, then it must be something in your router blocking communications.

I use the exact same setup (WM11) to share music with my 360. So apparently I'll only need to approve the PS3 and my settings and library should already be available! Cool. I can't wait for the work day to end... :(

Yeah I guess, but I can't tell what it is. Everything looks like it should work. The PS3 network setup says UPnP is enabled and available...

Thing is, I set up RedKawa's Media Center X and that works. The PS3 can find it (on the same PC) just fine (via the web browser).

everything works like music and images, but cant get movies to work, shows up as unsupported data

everything works like music and images, but cant get movies to work, shows up as unsupported data

Only certain file formats are supported. :o

ok ... I already noticed the unsupported data problems which is understandable since the 360 was doing the same thing ... I assume to safeguard against piracy etc. My problem right now is with maintaining a connection between the pc and ps3. For some reason when I go to search for files, a message will come up saying something to the form of The connection between the media server is gone and check your settings or whatever. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

ok ... I already noticed the unsupported data problems which is understandable since the 360 was doing the same thing ... I assume to safeguard against piracy etc. My problem right now is with maintaining a connection between the pc and ps3. For some reason when I go to search for files, a message will come up saying something to the form of The connection between the media server is gone and check your settings or whatever. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


I got the same message. What I did is back out and went right back to the folder and it work with no problem. Hope that help.

Anyone tried MediaTomb? Its pretty much plug and play on Fedora 6. I have tons of pictures and the PS3 seems to need to scan all of them. I thought its a client?

I don't think it's my tags. I spent a lot of time getting them right. Other apps that ive used like itunes and every ver of wmp works fine. ill try some more apps when i get home, but i doubt its the tags. when i check the files in diff id3 editors, they all come up fine as well.
Those are the tags in your files but the PS3 is not directly accessing those files. It's depending on the server to send it data that it can read. If mp3s are showing up as unsupported, the server may not be sending the data in the way the PS3 expects.

The incorrect tagging is strange. I've tried Windows MEdia Player to rip my cds and it's awful: it can't find the right info for half the cds and it rips them in a half-assed fashion. Accessing media files from Media Player is a chore and nothing is ever in order. Real Player worked a little better because of their online databases (gracenote) but the program is buggy. I finally have been using Creative Media Source (but it makes funny little noises) and it puts the tracks in order and gets Gracenote info. So my music is tagged right. Here's what I've found: Twonky wil display the albums and play the tracks in the correct order. Windows Media Connect will display the albums and NEVER play them in the right order. Why is Windows Media so ******? Try Twonky if you want correct play order. On another note, I suppose the PS3 doesn't support ifo yet (and probably never)...

The incorrect tagging is strange. I've tried Windows MEdia Player to rip my cds and it's awful: it can't find the right info for half the cds and it rips them in a half-assed fashion. Accessing media files from Media Player is a chore and nothing is ever in order. Real Player worked a little better because of their online databases (gracenote) but the program is buggy. I finally have been using Creative Media Source (but it makes funny little noises) and it puts the tracks in order and gets Gracenote info. So my music is tagged right. Here's what I've found: Twonky wil display the albums and play the tracks in the correct order. Windows Media Connect will display the albums and NEVER play them in the right order. Why is Windows Media so ******? Try Twonky if you want correct play order. On another note, I suppose the PS3 doesn't support ifo yet (and probably never)...

Two words: Media Monkey

I love this application for ripping and organizing. It's amazing. It's not a media server application, but for ripping and organizing, it's a godsend. (Figuratively of course. Don't want people to think I believe in made-up, supernatural beings.)

Ok, if I connect the PC and PS3 directly it works.

If I try to go thru the Linksys router, it does not.

Anyone else using the Linksys BEFSR41 router?? Do you have to manually open ports or what?

I created a playlist called shoutcast and I put a URL link in it to a streaming radiostation in MP3. However on the PS3, it sees the playlist, I can select it, but when it opens it shows no files. Is there anyway to get the URL to stream to the PS3 using the wmp server?

Second, is there a way to make categories to put videos in. I see ratings, artist, etc but I want to make one called Porn with subdivisions and lock it so the visiting in-laws don't start watching all my porn. I know that's not very neighborly of me but I don't like used Porn.

Ok, if I connect the PC and PS3 directly it works.

If I try to go thru the Linksys router, it does not.

Anyone else using the Linksys BEFSR41 router?? Do you have to manually open ports or what?

I opened a bunch of ports UDP and TCP both on my netgear wireless router.

Nero MediaHome works fine for mp3s... tagging woks as it should...

ripped DVD playback is buggy at best. Some .VOBs play while others do not. Audio is also output as PCM only it seems even though it should be 5.1 audio.

I opened a bunch of ports UDP and TCP both on my netgear wireless router.
Ok... which ports? And you open them to the PS3 or to the PC?

UPnP should automatically open up and use whatever port the server/client requests... that is the thing with UPnP... you do not have to explicitly open up ports via your router.

There is one UDP port listed in the BEFSR41 "UPnP Forwarding" page; 3658 (UDP). That wasn't put there by me, and is new since I enabled UPnP... so yeah I guess that's what it's trying to do, but it doesn't work....

I have updated my post on the earlier page about how simplecenter and jrmediacenter work...

Here is the post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10620000&&#post10620000)

simplecenter seems to be the easiest to use at the moment... www.simplecenter.com

My MediaTomb (Linux based) just finished indexing and the PS3 was able to view the jpg photos just fine. However the PS3 will not play the mp3s. Does anyone know if the PS3 can play mp3s?

My MediaTomb (Linux based) just finished indexing and the PS3 was able to view the jpg photos just fine. However the PS3 will not play the mp3s. Does anyone know if the PS3 can play mp3s?


I am having the same problem.. I tried gmediaserver , ushare , mediatomb. None of them play mp3's.

anyone have an idea?

Anyone can confirm what codecs are supported? Is it based on the mediaserver software I will be using or is it based on what files the PS3 firmware can handle.

Like are Xvid, Divx, h264 and x264 supported?

Well we know for sure that regular WMA and JPEG are supported.

Edit: It's also confirmed that .mpg files are playing, with MPEG2 and MPEG1 codecs. MP3s confirmed by Twin.

Anyone can confirm what codecs are supported? Is it based on the mediaserver software I will be using or is it based on what files the PS3 firmware can handle.

Like are Xvid, Divx, h264 and x264 supported?

Depends on the Media Server you used. The Media Server dynamically transcode movies to the DLNA client format. e.g. Windows Media Player 11 only supports MS video format (wmv) which is useless for PS3, Nero Home supports MPEG 2, TwonkyMedia supports MPEG 2 and some of MPEG 4. Image and audio format-wise everyone pretty much support MP3 and AAC.

Mandatory image format is JPG, video is MPEG 2, audio is LPCM.
Other formats are also possible (e.g., PS3 can do PNG, GIF, AAC, MP3, MP4/AVC, WMA)

Anyone can confirm what codecs are supported? Is it based on the mediaserver software I will be using or is it based on what files the PS3 firmware can handle.

Like are Xvid, Divx, h264 and x264 supported?The PS3 will handle some variants of h.264, but it is very picky about the audio and video streams. It won't directly handle wmv, xvid, divx, or x264.

Right now, the only effective solution I've found for streaming most video is Nero MediaHome, which re-encodes all streams on the fly. However, the PS3 doesn't appear to support Neros' MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 modes, so it's stuck streaming in "MPEG-1" mode. Quality stinks.

What we need is a multi-core accelerated network streaming app that can re-encode [on the fly] to high-bitrate H.264 at 720x480 and/or 1280x720 in a compatible carrier.

This is pretty cool, I was able to stream mp3's and 720P HD MPEG2 videos with Media Player 11 to my wired PS3. The strange thing is though that my other PS3 which is running wireless won't connect to WM11. Anyone able to connect and stream from WM11 with a wireless PS3?

Mandatory image format is JPG, video is MPEG 2, audio is LPCM.
Other formats are also possible (e.g., PS3 can do PNG, GIF, AAC, MP3, MP4/AVC, WMA)
Do we have positive proof that any of those formats has been successfully streamed to a PS3 without transcoding at this point?

The PS3 will handle some variants of h.264, but it is very picky about the audio and video streams. It won't directly handle wmv, xvid, divx, or x264.

Right now, the only effective solution I've found for streaming most video is Nero MediaHome, which re-encodes all streams on the fly. However, the PS3 doesn't appear to support Neros' MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 modes, so it's stuck streaming in "MPEG-1" mode. Quality stinks.

What we need is a multi-core accelerated network streaming app that can re-encode [on the fly] to high-bitrate H.264 at 720x480 and/or 1280x720 in a compatible carrier.

well I don't see the point if none of xvid,divx and x264 is supported, wmv I can understand as its microsoft but the xvid and x264 are open source, is this some kind of piracy issue you think

I was looking for a mediacenter solution to stream my movies to my TV and was alla excited about the PS3 being a free alternative but apparently it isnt.

well i'll just go back to my idea of building an htpc

So what's the best server to use if you want your MP3s to display correctly? Will it
move onto the next track, or just stop after playing whichever you selected?

Twonky! Plays the tracks in order and keeps going and going, like a certain Bunny.

So what is the best for VIDEO_TS folders? Nero?

I haven't gotten that to work correctly. Instead ofplaying the IFO file, it goes intot he Video_ts folder and you can choose everything except the ifo file. Half the files don't play anyways. But Twonky will let you navigate to the individual tracks of the dvd : just don't expect miracles..or fast forward..or chapter skip...or menus.

Sony should imo make their own version for windows. It would deffenetly be the best match for the ps3.

I am having the same problem.. I tried gmediaserver , ushare , mediatomb. None of them play mp3's.

anyone have an idea?
The following types of files can be played under (Music).

Memory Stick Audio Format(ATRAC)
MP3(MPEG-1/2 Audio Layer 3)
MP4(MPEG-4 AAC)
WAVE(Linear PCM)
WMA

Another to try...

http://www.jrmediacenter.com/index.html

info on upnp setup....

http://www.jrmediacenter.com/UPnP.html
update 11:15 pm 5/24 --- Jrmediacenter does not work currently, but their developers are extremely helpful and are already providing help in their forums on how to get it working. Pictures currently work, music does not. The browsing and organization setup in the software is EXCELLENT, so I hope we can make progress here... no transcoding that I see...

another to try...

http://www.simplecenter.com/features.html
update 11:15 pm 5/24 --- Simplecenter works! Album songs are played in order! Organization not as strong as jrmedia. Videos work as long as they are in a ps3 compatible format!! Photos work!! Does NOT do transcoding... thats the only drawback, also not a free program

I've tried both of these and couldn't get Jrmediacenter to work, even for photos. I'm hoping the developers can get it to work with the PS3, it appears to be very robust. The PS3 recognizes it, but it doesn't see the files.

Simplecenter works like a charm. Although it says it's a 30-day trial version, it appears to me the Basic version is free. You only need to buy the Premium version ($30) if you want/need video transcoding (I'm not sure if transcoding works with the PS3, but transcoding for the PSP is currently supported), or a few other features not included in the Basic version.

This worked initially for me but now my PS3 isn't recognized by wm11 for some reason. I've restarted both multiple times but it still isn't connecting. Any suggestions on why this is happening? My PS3 is connected via a linksys router.

Once is does connect to the PC does your PC have to be on for the PS3 to stream media from it?

Thank you!

Has anyone tried nero mediahome? They claim to have on the fly transcoding of media. I tried wmp11 and was able to stream pictures and music without a problem but the video support was mostly nonexistant.

I am thinking about installing nero mediahome. anyone have luck with the on the fly transcoding?

I am thinking about installing nero mediahome. anyone have luck with the on the fly transcoding?
So far I've tried Twonky, WMP11 and Nero MediaHome, out of 35+ files, only one has even played between all three apps and it was downrezzed to the point of irrelevance.

I've been trying to use WMP11. My laptop is connected wirelessly and the PS3 is wired.
It recognizes the PS3 and on the PS3 i am able to connect to my laptop but I do not see any files. I thought i have to place the files in the shared folder. Anyone know why this is ?
Excuse my ignorance of microsoft products :(

"Does you PC have to be on to stream media from it"

Yes it does. This might be why you no longer see your PC. Just guessing though. ;)

So far I've tried Twonky, WMP11 and Nero MediaHome, out of 35+ files, only one has even played between all three apps and it was downrezzed to the point of irrelevance.
ouch
"Does you PC have to be on to stream media from it"

Yes it does. This might be why you no longer see your PC. Just guessing though. ;)
lol

I've been trying to use WMP11. My laptop is connected wirelessly and the PS3 is wired.
It recognizes the PS3 and on the PS3 i am able to connect to my laptop but I do not see any files. I thought i have to place the files in the shared folder. Anyone know why this is ?
Excuse my ignorance of microsoft products :(

Add them to the library of WMP11, they dont have to be in shared folders, just in the wmp11 library.

I can't get transport streams to work... they play OK in my fusion app on my PC, but when I play them on the PS3, it says "data corrupt." I haven't ever gotten them to play correctly (w/ sound) in WMP11, so perhaps that my issue.

Well I guess MediaTomb doesnt do mp3 transcoding properly. The PS3 says its unsupported. I find that very strange.

has anybody gotten many file formats to work?

I fired up WMP 11, set it all, and I can see the Media server on my PS3. Plays MP3s fine, often says "no response from server" then I just refresh the list by going back one stage.

Most video formats show up as "unknown data" or play with some stutter. I ripped some anime back to VOB (from AVI I think) and it plays fine.

I also had Nero so I fired up MediaHome and it plays more file formats than WMP 11, and plays MPEG2s nicely without stutter. But the WMV and some other files still don't transcode very well.

Seems like VOB and other DVD formats play the best, and my router has a USB port for an external drive, and UPnP server built in, so I might just migrate all my files over to some 300Gb drive and do that.

What formats, bit rates, multipass, or other file types have people been successful with so far?

I'm trying SimpleCenter. Installed and assigned a 200G hdd as the share point. The hdd is almost full with tons of different media files from small JPG to full lenght HDTV TS movies. It has been 5 hours now and it still at the "Scanning Watch Folders" progress bar "Adding 23470 of 35412 files" and slowly counting. How long will it take? This is my first time using streaming server...

regards,

Li On

As far as I know, the indexing takes a long ass time. But dont point the PS3 to it yet until its done. I had mine crash and had to flip the switch. At 30g of just photos it took nearly 2-3 hours but im running my FC6 on vmware.

The following types of files can be played under (Music).

Memory Stick Audio Format(ATRAC)
MP3(MPEG-1/2 Audio Layer 3)
MP4(MPEG-4 AAC)
WAVE(Linear PCM)
WMA


In that case it must be the Upnp server I am using.. Because no matter what I do mp3 files wont play.. I was able to view images and videos.. Which was hella cool..

But music is what I really want to stream..

If anyone gets anything working with using Linux as the upnp server... Let me know.

I'm trying SimpleCenter. Installed and assigned a 200G hdd as the share point. The hdd is almost full with tons of different media files from small JPG to full lenght HDTV TS movies. It has been 5 hours now and it still at the "Scanning Watch Folders" progress bar "Adding 23470 of 35412 files" and slowly counting. How long will it take? This is my first time using streaming server...

regards,

Li On

It took me about an hour for 60g. You can shorten the time somewhat by not including file types the PS3 can't handle (under Settings), but since you're already into it this far, that's probably not something you'd want to attempt until it's finished scanning the first time.

As far as I know, the indexing takes a long ass time. But dont point the PS3 to it yet until its done. I had mine crash and had to flip the switch. At 30g of just photos it took nearly 2-3 hours but im running my FC6 on vmware.

I just loaded Simplecenter as well. It is done scanning, I think. However, it is super slow when using it on my PC, trying to navigate to a particular song etc takes forever. Is this because it is still doing some kind of indexing in the background perhaps?

Looking forward to trying it out with my PS3.

Sony should imo make their own version for windows. It would deffenetly be the best match for the ps3.
Sony's PCs have some kind of media server on them. I think those screenshots of the 1.8 update that were leaked showed a Sony Vaio from the XMB. But Sony doesn't have a good track record for PC software so who knows how well it works.

i was hoping mediahome could transcode divx files on-the-fly so i could view them on the ps3, but it doesnt work. It doesnt transcode ogg files either. :(

I've got my ps3 hooked up to my 100mb/s network using cat 6 cable. Had no problem watchinmg previously encoded videos from WMP11. I could fastforward pause stop with no difficulty.

Just out of curiosity. If you are having difficulties with fast forw*rd or stuttering while watching could yu post your network speed at your PS3. Mine is around 80mb/s.

I have a bit when I start using the PS3's onboard G from my Pre-N router. If I pause for 10-15 seconds, it seems to cache enough to stop it, but I am working on file sizes in MPG2 encodes right now.

I have some Anime episodes in AVI that run 22 minutes, about 175Meg each. So far, I can only get the MPEG2 re-encodes to play properly in WMP11, and they almost triple in size.

Has anybody had success with a more efficient Codec than MPEG2? Or maybe my framerates are off, or something...

Once everyone gets over the setup process and network issues we can move on to encoding issues. Thats when the fun begins. I sure have lots a questions about that.

Once everyone gets over the setup process and network issues we can move on to encoding issues. Thats when the fun begins. I sure have lots a questions about that.


I would like to know how I can play "regular" backed-up SD-DVD, i.e. ifo/vobs, over the network. What server software do I need? Thus far I cold not get WMP11 to recognize those files types.

Thanks!
_____
Axel

So far I've tried Twonky, WMP11 and Nero MediaHome, out of 35+ files, only one has even played between all three apps and it was downrezzed to the point of irrelevance.
Ugh.. thanks for posting that tho. Almost shelled out the 80 bucks for Nero.

I would like to know how I can play "regular" backed-up SD-DVD, i.e. ifo/vobs, over the network. What server software do I need? Thus far I cold not get WMP11 to recognize those files types.
For broad compatibilty, you could remux the DVD mpeg2 video from ifo/vob files into a .mpg file. Use DGIndex to extract the video and audio streams then ImagoMPEG-Muxer to put those streams into the .mpg file. But you'll lose menus, subtitles, etc. when you do this. The good news is this process only takes like 10 minutes though.

I just tried the trial version of Twonky to compare with WMP11. I had WMP11 running on my desktop and Twonky running on my laptop, and the PS3 found both.

The Twonky offered internet radio, but all the stations were "unsupported media format". I'm not even sure what format Twonky would stream here.

I tried streaming an MP3 and, for the first time I've seen, my PS3 froze. The music played but the controller became unresponsive. I had to reboot.

Now that the PS3 can stream, I want to buy an NAS that came with a UPnP server, but I'm now realizing that not all media server software are created equal.

Anyone tried MediaTomb? Its pretty much plug and play on Fedora 6. I have tons of pictures and the PS3 seems to need to scan all of them. I thought its a client?
MediaTomb seems to "almost" work for me from a wired machine running Ubuntu but not from my wireless Macbook Pro. I say almost because I can see the server listed on the PS3 without scanning and the only thing I've shared are mp3's but once you surf down through the actual directory hierarchy or through the tag organized folder view down to the track, it says "Unsupported Data."

I'm going to try a few pictures next.

jpegs work right out of the "box" with MediaTomb however as you said the mp3s show as unsupported. I'm not sure why it is and how to fix this.

I just loaded Simplecenter as well. It is done scanning, I think. However, it is super slow when using it on my PC, trying to navigate to a particular song etc takes forever. Is this because it is still doing some kind of indexing in the background perhaps?

Looking forward to trying it out with my PS3.

I've not tried simplecenter (yet) however I suspect all upnp servers do similar indexing of media files. My mediatomb based upnp server looked as if it was done when it wasn't. I just let it run overnight and my PS3 was able to navigate through the media quickly.

I looked over the twonkymedia server and it says it is upnp certified (whatever that means) so I am using it as a benchmark. Anyone else with twonkymedia able to run with all media? mp3, mp4 mpegs, divx, jpegs, wmv (maybe not on a PS3), etc?

It may help if we can list what media you got it to work and what you had to do to make the PS3 play those media if otherwise.

i was hoping mediahome could transcode divx files on-the-fly so i could view them on the ps3, but it doesnt work. It doesnt transcode ogg files either. :(

There is a Video floating around that shows this working somehow but I was unable to get it to work as well . I have tons of music videos that are either divx or xvid and none of them will play even though MediaHome is supposed to transcode on the fly . It shows the files but after attempting to play them it just gives a Corrupt File message .

Has anybody figured out a way to get transcoded divx/xvid working with the ps3 ?

--- Jason

I have playing with the Transcoder setting in Nero MediaHome.

Best results so far are MPEG2-high Bitrate for visual quality (but transcoded AVIs still look like a**).

I can play more files with it set to "NeroDigital MPEG4" but FF and other controls are less useful.

I see little visual difference between MPG2 and MPG4 transcodes unless the source file is AVI, then it just sucks.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/Dgephri/hometheater/Nerosettings.jpg

Anyone else?

Update after buying full to 7.9.6 (was on 7.0): AVI transcoding works much better, but the XMB access is slower than before (I think due to Nero Scout).

Still no FF, Pause, or RW options when playing an AVI, but if I re-encode them to MPEG 2 they can be controlled (just takes 3-4X the drivespace).

jpegs work right out of the "box" with MediaTomb however as you said the mp3s show as unsupported. I'm not sure why it is and how to fix this.
The UPnP server needs to send the right headers with the file. If you go to their web forums (or any of the other upnp servers' forums) and look in the PS3 threads, you can see where they are analyzing the XML messages. They are looking to see how the successful playback attempts differ from the unsuccessful ones.

http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1742633&forum_id=440751
http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1742768&forum_id=440750

You can see the first thread where they have found a working header for serving .mp4 files to the PS3. They've updated mediatomb with the fixes so the next version should work well with the PS3.

For broad compatibilty, you could remux the DVD mpeg2 video from ifo/vob files into a .mpg file. Use DGIndex to extract the video and audio streams then ImagoMPEG-Muxer to put those streams into the .mpg file. But you'll lose menus, subtitles, etc. when you do this. The good news is this process only takes like 10 minutes though.
Yeah, not many of us want to do that. I have multiple hard drives with 1000s of gigs of dvds and remuxing, converting, renaming is just not something I'm going to do. If Sony claims to be a multi-media machine, then let's see it deliver. So far this update (apart from basic upscaling that should have been in there from the start) has only given what my Haupagge Media Player ($50) can do already minus the 600 price tag. and my Tivo ($60) and my PS2 using Game Shark Media Player ($20). I understand it's nice to be able to stream videos to your PS3, but it would be even nicer if dvd streaming were supported. Can't even do it with a hard drive connected (Fat32 is Sony's new best friend - way to go). Sure you can choose individual ts files, vobs blah blah and guess at which one you want to watch. Oh well. My HTPC lives on for now until I get a cheap networked dvd player. I just wish Sony would step up from simple things to impressive things. Most of the updates are fixes for problems that never should have been there or simple additions that one would expect to be bundled with a PS3: proper support of PS2 controllers (should have been there from the beginning and it STILL isn't complete support), Blue Rays not freezing, upscaling of dvds (on a $600 machine that outputs at 1080p and costs 540 dollars more than an upscaling dvd player), media streaming (of a degree, which has been done for years by most devices for much cheaper), rumble on controller - oh wait, we still don't have that. I like my PS3, but most of these updates are just well... they illicit from me "it's about ****ing time, Sony, derrrr"

Great update. Would sure hope they enable DVD streaming in the near future. This doesn't work with the Xbox360 as a media center extender, so I was hoping the PS3 would enable it.

This is pretty cool, I was able to stream mp3's and 720P HD MPEG2 videos with Media Player 11 to my wired PS3. The strange thing is though that my other PS3 which is running wireless won't connect to WM11. Anyone able to connect and stream from WM11 with a wireless PS3?

I have same problem except i can only connect wireless to my PS3. Has anyone been able to force WMP11 to recognize the PS3 to share over a wireless router from Linksys. I called their tech support in Calcutta but they were unaware of the issues.

Also, if i go with another media server software application like Simplecenter or Orb or WonkyMedia, will the PS3 still behave the same way as if I were sharing from WMP11?

What I want to do is stream my digital photos to the PS3 and use the PS3 outstanding portrait slideshow function to view these photos. Will using any of the above apps allow this? I also want to stream music and I have 100s of riped CDs and just a few downloaded songs from iTunes.

Anyone have any advice??

I have same problem except i can only connect wireless to my PS3. Has anyone been able to force WMP11 to recognize the PS3 to share over a wireless router from Linksys. I called their tech support in Calcutta but they were unaware of the issues.If it's the same as the wired Linksys router, you have to "enable multicast".

See : http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=852498

i was hoping mediahome could transcode divx files on-the-fly so i could view them on the ps3, but it doesnt work. It doesnt transcode ogg files either. :(

I've been able to play all files except quicktime with Media Home (tho I haven't tried ogg) transcoding on the fly. The only real downside right now is that Divx/Xvid files tend to stop a couple seconds before the video finishes and you can't pause or anything.

I use the Linksys Wireless Pre-N router shown here:
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1162354643512&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=4351276789B06

I only get hiccups when the Bitrate exceeds 30 or so...most anything under 20 is steady and only subject to the limits of the Transcoding.

Free Fuppes UPnP service (http://fuppes.ulrich-voelkel.de/)
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1726391&group_id=141999&atid=751213
They are fixing PS3 compatibility, current binary release does not support playback but subversion should have a fix. Now I must wait for binary release as don't have compilation environment avail.
This probably supports only .mp3 music files, not videos.

If it's the same as the wired Linksys router, you have to "enable multicast".

See : http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=852498

I checked in the security settings of my router and multicast was already checked.....so I guess i am f***ed

What about UPnP? I turned that on also. I found that it would work with it off, but the PS3 would report NAT version 3, with a warning that NAT 3 will restrict online voice chat and such. With UPnP enabled it reports NAT version 2, which is better I guess...

What about UPnP? I turned that on also. I found that it would work with it off, but the PS3 would report NAT version 3, with a warning that NAT 3 will restrict online voice chat and such. With UPnP enabled it reports NAT version 2, which is better I guess...

No I already had it set to UpnP and my PS3 was already at NAT 2 before the FW update. Maybe I will try Linksys again although they really did not have a clue last time I called....

Sorry if this has already been posted...
I'm using Twonky, and so far, it seems the only audio I'm able to stream is .mp3. I have a lot of songs I've ripped with iTunes using .aac, and those are showing up as "Unsupported" even though the PS3 is supposed to be able to play .aac.

All of my video shows up as "Unsupported." It sure would be nice if I could just stream my 1080p QT trailers (converted to MP4 with QT Pro) from my HD, or at the very least, copy directly from my PC to my PS3 without having to use a USB drive or my iPod as a transport device.

I have multiple hard drives with 1000s of gigs of dvds and remuxing, converting, renaming is just not something I'm going to do.
Then get your upnp server to do the work for you. DVDShrink can read a folder of files and produce watchable video streams on the fly. If DVDShrink can do this, your upnp software can too. Work with your upnp software writers and get them to support this. It shouldn't be too hard for them to implement because they won't have to transcode.

Then get your upnp server to do the work for you. DVDShrink can read a folder of files and produce watchable video streams on the fly. If DVDShrink can do this, your upnp software can too. Work with your upnp software writers and get them to support this. It shouldn't be too hard for them to implement because they won't have to transcode.
I played with MediaGuide4, an interntet server that will stream dvds, isos, ifos, etc... off of your hard drive. The PS3 can't even find it in the browser, but I'm not that good at opening ports either. I checked that Upnp is turned on in my router, but the Microsoft connection test tool doesn't detect it. I wonder if it's conflicting with my switcher? I have router going to switcher going to htpc, ps3, xbox, etc..

You can see the first thread where they have found a working header for serving .mp4 files to the PS3. They've updated mediatomb with the fixes so the next version should work well with the PS3.

Thanks, I will take a look. It looks like they've already updated MediaTomb to 0.9.1 and the changelog specifically said the latest is for PS3 compatibility.

I played with MediaGuide4, an interntet server that will stream dvds, isos, ifos, etc... off of your hard drive. The PS3 can't even find it in the browser, but I'm not that good at opening ports either. I checked that Upnp is turned on in my router, but the Microsoft connection test tool doesn't detect it. I wonder if it's conflicting with my switcher? I have router going to switcher going to htpc, ps3, xbox, etc..


I can't find mention of MediaGuide4 anywhere. I do find MediaGuide at microsoft and it's player Windows Media Player. Is that what you are talking about?

For broad compatibilty, you could remux the DVD mpeg2 video from ifo/vob files into a .mpg file. Use DGIndex to extract the video and audio streams then ImagoMPEG-Muxer to put those streams into the .mpg file. But you'll lose menus, subtitles, etc. when you do this. The good news is this process only takes like 10 minutes though.


I'm trying this now. I think this is my best shot as none of the servers seem to serve up a DVD. They all show the VOBs and you can play each one but not sequentially. And many of the servers are transcoding. I really don't want my videos transcoded if it isn't necessary.

Is it insane to believe that multichannel audio from QT/MP4 files can be transcoded into AC3 so I can finally have my trailers in surround?

For broad compatibilty, you could remux the DVD mpeg2 video from ifo/vob files into a .mpg file. Use DGIndex to extract the video and audio streams then ImagoMPEG-Muxer to put those streams into the .mpg file. But you'll lose menus, subtitles, etc. when you do this. The good news is this process only takes like 10 minutes though.


Well, my audio and video got outta sync. Weird cause the Multiplexer reported no errors. You would think that if the audio track ended 5 mins before the video the multiplexer might catch that.

i am assuming that with vista home premium you can stream via mediacenter,.......correct?

I can't find mention of MediaGuide4 anywhere. I do find MediaGuide at microsoft and it's player Windows Media Player. Is that what you are talking about?
Sorry, I have an extremely bad memory. It's actually WEBguide4. Whoops. http://www.asciiexpress.com/webguide/ I could not get it to work with the PS3 (probably only works through the browser, but even then it wouldn't show up). If someone can get it to work, though, it seems to handle DVDs and their menu structures, etc.... I'm just not good with all the techno-router-mumbo-jumbo.

Well, my audio and video got outta sync. Weird cause the Multiplexer reported no errors. You would think that if the audio track ended 5 mins before the video the multiplexer might catch that.
Hmm, that's weird. I've never had any problems like that with DGIndex and ImagoMPEG-Muxer. I've converted a bunch of stuff and played it locally on the PS3 (pre 1.8 fw) and on the PC.

Did you call DGIndex directly or through something like MeGUI? What was your source and how did you rip it?

I have same problem except i can only connect wireless to my PS3. Has anyone been able to force WMP11 to recognize the PS3 to share over a wireless router from Linksys.
It's working fine for me, but I have it setup a slight different way. My PS3 is connected to my Linksys router through an ethernet cable, but my PC is a laptop connected to the router wirelessly. I haven't had any issues using WMP11 to share the files. My only issue is getting MP4 video files to show up.

Yay MediaTomb 0.9.1 works for Linux based systems. Most of the time the PS3 plays MP3s well. However on some MP3s, it can crash the PS3. I'd have to hold down the PS button, force a shutdown, boot up and let the PS3 rebuild (chkdsk) the HD.

Has this happened to others with other servers?

Hmm, that's weird. I've never had any problems like that with DGIndex and ImagoMPEG-Muxer. I've converted a bunch of stuff and played it locally on the PS3 (pre 1.8 fw) and on the PC.

Did you call DGIndex directly or through something like MeGUI? What was your source and how did you rip it?

I called it directly. I think it might be because the Rip was bad. I found a program that would fix it AC3 Cut or something like that. Anyway, after I muxed it, it was all jumbled on the PS3 so I gave up. Tried NeroVision to just join the VOB files. However NeroVision won't just join the VOB's , it wants to convert them to .mpg.

I really just need a joiner for VOB's. Any suggestions?

I've never really archived vobs so I don't have much experience with them but DVD Decrypter has settings on how to split vobs for IFO mode. No doubt there are plenty of programs that can do that as well.

However, you might want to give Imago another go. Try getting DVD Decrypter to rerip your current VOBs in IFO mode and then run those output files through Imago. DVD Shrink will read a folder of VOBs and allow you to author a DVD .iso file from them. Then you can mount that iso and run DVD Decrypter on it.

I've never really archived vobs so I don't have much experience with them but DVD Decrypter has settings on how to split vobs for IFO mode. No doubt there are plenty of programs that can do that as well.



That did the trick! Thanks so much. The whole movie in one VOB with no muxing, decoding, encoding, demuxin. Just let DVD Decrypter do it's thing.

The movie was served by NeroMediaHome and played, fast forwarded, paused, and sound was fine.

Until there is a DVD Server this seems to be the best of all possible solutions out there to serve DVDs to the playstation. And it only takes 5mins to do for each movie.

I finally gave up on WMP 11 (see my previous posts) and downloaded SimpleCenter. I was able to stream my ripped CD collection and view all my digital photos without any problems. Very, very satisfied there. But I also have a bunch of AVI videos that I shot with my point-and-shoot digital camera. I realized immediately that i needed to convert them to MPEG2 to get them over the Simplecenter network. I downloaded a free video convertor and began converting some of these files.

Simplecenter now streams these MPEG2 transfers to my PS3 but about 20 seconds into each stream the audio cuts out. Also FF and Rewind and pause functions for these videos are all super sloooooow. The majority of my videos are about 30 seconds total running time so these aren't large files....I don't care about streaming DVD video or any other video for that matter. But I would like to watch my converted AVI clips on my HDTV over the PS3.

Anyone have any "simple" ideas why my audio drops out? I have heard that remote control functions over a DLNA network are very non-responsive but the audio is a deal-breaker for me.....

If you are wireless to the ps3 then my money is on that. Try a wired connection and see if you get the same problems. Try serving using a different dlna server. or post one of your problem clips and see if anyone else has the same problem with it.

So I picked up my PS3 this week, mostly for the streaming media feature. I'm hoping to replace my old Xbox with XBMC, and move that to another room.

The major issue I'm running into is that I can't figure out how to get 5.1 sound out of streaming videos. Anyone had any luck with this?

I've tried 6 channel AAC, embedded AC3 and even PLII encoding. No matter what, I only get stereo sound.

I'm connected via HDMI, if that makes a difference.

So I picked up my PS3 this week, mostly for the streaming media feature. I'm hoping to replace my old Xbox with XBMC, and move that to another room.

The major issue I'm running into is that I can't figure out how to get 5.1 sound out of streaming videos. Anyone had any luck with this?

I've tried 6 channel AAC, embedded AC3 and even PLII encoding. No matter what, I only get stereo sound.

I'm connected via HDMI, if that makes a difference.

What server are you running on your computer?

PLII is stereo. You need a receiver to decode it into 5.1 ch..

For AC3 - the PS3 (currently?) can only play MPEG_PS files with AC3, and even then it converts/outputs it as 2-ch. PCM only.

AAC is also limited to 2-ch. (currently??).

Types of files that can be played (http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/video/filetypes.html)

No idea if they plan to update and add support for more audio formats (AC3, multi-channel AAC, etc..)

I've tried a few different servers. I liked TVersity, but it kept crashing on me. Right now I'm playing with Nero MediaHome.

For whatever reason, my new receiver (Onkyo 604) doesn't seem to apply PLII to the output of the PS3. Might be a configuration issue. Still, I'd rather not settle for that and would prefer the original audio stream.

I've discovered that if I rip a DVD and convert the VOB to MPG, the AC3 is passed along fine (and plays through all 5.1 channels). Is this what you mean by MPEG-2 PS?
The files are huge though, I'd really prefer a more compressed version.

I guess I'll live with this for now. Hopefully Sony adds more codecs soon.

I decided to "suck it up" and install Cat6 throughout my house last week.

Almost without saying (but I will anyway) all PS3 streaming is much improved over running my WirelessG (even at 100% using a Linksys Signal booster at the midpoint).

No hiccups, fast browsing, and ZERO false starts so far. I am playing Anime AVIs from my C2Duo over Cat6 at both GB and 100 speed without issues. Still no FF RW or Pause in transcoding via Nero MediaHome, but I will make do with that. :)

I've tried a few different servers. I liked TVersity, but it kept crashing on me. Right now I'm playing with Nero MediaHome.

For whatever reason, my new receiver (Onkyo 604) doesn't seem to apply PLII to the output of the PS3. Might be a configuration issue. Still, I'd rather not settle for that and would prefer the original audio stream.

I've discovered that if I rip a DVD and convert the VOB to MPG, the AC3 is passed along fine (and plays through all 5.1 channels). Is this what you mean by MPEG-2 PS?
The files are huge though, I'd really prefer a more compressed version.

I guess I'll live with this for now. Hopefully Sony adds more codecs soon.

I have gotten TVersity setup and it works wonderfully, It's been running for 30 hours here crash free now. I tried simple center but it wasn't working so well and the whole limited amount of video you can do with simple center turned me to TVersity and its on the fly transcoding. Only one minor setup hiccup - I had to manually confire windows firewall for the port and for the Tversity media server program. Then it was grand. If after installing and cataloging with Tversity your PS3 still does not see the media server, try turning the firewall off to test where the problem lies, assuming it then works, turn the firewall back on and figure out what eceptions you need to have in there to make it work.

I watched an xvid compressed .avi file and TVersity transcoded on the fly and pumped it right across. Too bad you can't even pause playbak on the PS3 in this scenario but the transcoded playback was totally hiccup free, My PC is a dual athlon 2800 and the system processor utiliztion while transcoding on the fly was about 60% (so a single athlon 2800 likely wouldn't have been up to the task). I have not yet tried a full blown DVD converted to Mepg playback scenario yet.

It took a long time to catalog my library the first day (about 4 hours) but I have about 10,000 3MB picture files on my USB archive drive that it was cataloging so I can live with that.

I did find better picture browisng performance by not having TVersity resize pictures to a "maximum" pixel size. The PS3 is faster at fetching the 3MB 6.1 MP images and resizing them internally as appropiate for the TV rahter than the PC having to resize before it can begin transfer of the file. I do wish that the PS3 had a way to view the images pixel for pixel.

Oh and my network is wired 100 MB.

I decided to "suck it up" and install Cat6 throughout my house last week.

Almost without saying (but I will anyway) all PS3 streaming is much improved over running my WirelessG (even at 100% using a Linksys Signal booster at the midpoint).

No hiccups, fast browsing, and ZERO false starts so far. I am playing Anime AVIs from my C2Duo over Cat6 at both GB and 100 speed without issues. Still no FF RW or Pause in transcoding via Nero MediaHome, but I will make do with that. :)
Might as well go with the best, but for those that are curious cat5 will work just fine for streaming video as well.

I have my PC serving video to my xbox and it streams fine. I get FTP speeds of 7-8MB/s when dumping files to the xbox.

true, I just decided that for the minimal price difference (Cat5e to Cat6) I was only going to do it once for the headroom in the cable bandwidth in the future.

true, I just decided that for the minimal price difference (Cat5e to Cat6) I was only going to do it once for the headroom in the cable bandwidth in the future.
Oh I agree, just wanted to let others others that might have some extra cat5 know it will be up to the task.

I would like to start using the Media Server capability to serve my DVD collection to the PS3. What program is best for ripping the DVDs and what format should they be stored in.
I would prefer something free, but if necessary would buy a program. I will be using Windows XP for the serving platform.

I would like to start using the Media Server capability to serve my DVD collection to the PS3. What program is best for ripping the DVDs and what format should they be stored in.
I would prefer something free, but if necessary would buy a program. I will be using Windows XP for the serving platform.
If just strating to backup your collection I would use the MP4 AVC format that the PS3 can decode. You can encode in another format, but I've had mixed results transcoding the files correctly.

Great website with tons of guides and links to the software you will need:
http://www.videohelp.com/
Check out the conversion section to see what you need to convert your DVDs, there are tons of guides. Also have a dedicated DVD backuo section, good luck.

Has anyone successfully gotten a digital mpeg2 transport (ie:broadcast high-def) audio track to play? I can get some video of some of my recorded programs to show up but no audio at all, no matter what program I try.

I would like to start using the Media Server capability to serve my DVD collection to the PS3. What program is best for ripping the DVDs and what format should they be stored in.
Yeah, I would agree with Jules343. If you are starting out today then use mpeg4 AVC to encode. MeGUI does a very good job for this and there are instructions and a PS3 profile for MeGUI available.

The big downside to AVC is the time it can take to encode. For very good quality, I have been averaging about 12-14 hours to encode a movie on my 2.8 ghz P4. I think those new Core Duo CPUs can get significantly faster times.

Yeah, I would agree with Jules343. If you are starting out today then use mpeg4 AVC to encode. MeGUI does a very good job for this and there are instructions and a PS3 profile for MeGUI available.

The big downside to AVC is the time it can take to encode. For very good quality, I have been averaging about 12-14 hours to encode a movie on my 2.8 ghz P4. I think those new Core Duo CPUs can get significantly faster times.
Very good point as well, AVC is indeed more CPU intensive.

is there a list anywhere of what dimensions the PS3/Nero Mediahome will process?

I have some odd AVIs that won't play, but if I reencode them with PS3V9 to MP4 they play fine. Then I have a feature length Anime that didn't play after reencoding either.

I think the funny dimensions were the issue (7something by 3 something).

if anyone is having access problems, i figured on vista you have to do this

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t228/trackmagic85/WMPNetworksvc.jpg

do this on each media folder you have. so the main folder it will spread it across all sub folders.

after i did this EVERYTHING started to show up.

also of note make sure you have firewall settings corr

Really no reason to encode any DVDs unless your media streamer won't stream them. PS3 sees VOB's just fine and that way you don't lose any quality either. just rip the dvd movie to one big VOB using DVD Decryptor. Then make sure all transcoding is turned off on your media streamer.

See Robert Green's DIY article "How to choose a DLNA Media Server for Windows, Mac OS X or Linux" at http://www.rbgrn.net/blog/2007/08/how-to-choose-dlna-media-server-software-in-windows-mac-os-x-or-linux.html

He lists a number of choices and picks some winners.

I'm using uShare now for PS3 and it works well on Linux. However I also have a 360 that I like to serve as well. I thought I can just run another uShare daemon but it seems that the PS3 would pick up the wrong daemon and it will not work.

Anyone else find a way to serve upnp to both PS3 and 360 on the same network under Linux and possibly with uShare?

I tried a number of Linux based upnp / dlna servers. I'm running Mandriva Linux 2008.0. Here's what I've had success with. In the 2 that worked (mediatomb and ushare) they both had a longish pause before the first song started playing, and between tracks. Watching the network traffic on my linux box, it looks like it streams all or most all of the mp3 to the PS3 before it starts playing... that's annoying. The linux box is very fast - a dual core AMD, 2gb ram, SATA drive. The PS3 is on 802.11g wifi, if I had it on wired ethernet the pause would probably be a lot less.

mediatomb version 0.10. You need to edit your ~.mediatomb/config.xml and add the line (I put it at the end of the server section):

<protocolInfo extend="yes"/>

This enables dlna support that the PS3 needs.

To start, use the cmd:

mediatomb -a /path/to/mp3s

Mediatomb also has a web interface, but I didn't find it that useful. It does export my m3u playlists.

ushare version 1.0 works with this cmd line:

ushare -v -d -n <friendly name> -c /path/to/mp3s

The "-d" is needed to tell it to use dlna. The -v is for "verbose", this is optional.

ushare didn't support the .m3u playlists, so I had to drill down to the folder and start the first song (they're all numbered, i.e. 01_my_track.mp3 so they play in order anyway). The PS3 does load the next song in the folder, after the aforementioned long pause.

I also tried gmediaserver, but it would get the dreaded DLNA protocol error on the PS3. Could be that there's a newer version of it that fixes this.

I didn't try video or pictures yet...

Hope this helps some of you looking for a free / linux based DLNA solution.

Hmm, that's weird that you get a long pause. My mediatomb server is only 266 mhz with a 4200 rpm laptop drive and I get no more than a 1 or 2 sec pause when playing songs.

I also installed WinAmp Remote - it has basically the same behavior with the long pause between songs. Could be a networking issue for me. I'm currently running a 2-Wire DSL modem with wifi, I'm not too pleased with the performance of it.

How long of a delay are you talking about?

I didn't put a stopwatch to it, but I'm guessing between 30 seconds and a minute. I can check it again later.

Yeah, you have something wrong if you can't compete with my 266 mhz server.