I have both consoles (just got the elite) and I have to say this latest update simply smacks down the 360. If they get the games up to par I might even sell the Elite.

At the risk of starting a flame war, I truly believe that once "Home" and "Little Big Planet" hit the PS3, the 360 will be a "last gen" console. These two will be so innovative and groundbreaking they will set new standards to console gaming, and this winter when "Ratchet and Clank" and "Uncharted" come out....oh boy. The future of console gaming is but a few months away. :D

no no flame war not wanted. Exuberance is setting in and if this keeps going I will be happy to have just one console habit to support !!!

At the risk of starting a flame war, I truly believe that once "Home" and "Little Big Planet" hit the PS3, the 360 will be a "last gen" console. These two will be so innovative and groundbreaking they will set new standards to console gaming, and this winter when "Ratchet and Clank" and "Uncharted" come out....oh boy. The future of console gaming is but a few months away. :D

With "Home" and "Little Big Planet" in your post, it's hard to determine whether or not you're being sarcastic.

Yeah those two things are hardly a "smack down" for the 360..I say Sony still has a ways to go but this is a step in a great direction. PS2 games look awesome. Its like having a 1080p PS2..cool.

With "Home" and "Little Big Planet" in your post, it's hard to determine whether or not you're being sarcastic.

Guess we'll wait and see. I've never been good at seeing into the future (though I've tried hard *sarcasm*), but from what I've seen of "LBP", although it may be cute to look at, it seems to be something of endless creativity and possibilities. As far as "Home" goes, I'm probably not going to spend much time on it, but I can see the myspace types digging it.

Wait and see...

I love my 360, but my PS3 just went up like a billion pts after this update. The media extending is fast and easy and the upscaling is fantastic. I couldn't be more happy!

Nice additions to the PS3 for sure but lets not get carried away , the 360 has had these features for a long time now ;) .

With that said I am very pleased to see Sony working so hard on getting the PS3 up to speed and with every update I feel better about the purchase .

--- Jason

Nice additions to the PS3 for sure but lets not get carried away , the 360 has had these features for a long time now ;) .

With that said I am very pleased to see Sony working so hard on getting the PS3 up to speed and with every update I feel better about the purchase .

--- Jason

To be fair, the 360 couldnt upconvert my playstation 2 games. I have both systems and I'm getting something very new here. I honestly dont still play any xbox games and the 360 doesnt even support them very well. There are still a lot of good PS2 games and I still play some, so upconversion support, for me, is a bigger deal on the PS3 than the 360.

Nice additions to the PS3 for sure but lets not get carried away , the 360 has had these features for a long time now ;) .

With that said I am very pleased to see Sony working so hard on getting the PS3 up to speed and with every update I feel better about the purchase .

--- Jason


X360 couldn't upscale DVDs except via the unrefined (for most HDTVs) VGA option until recently - and you still have to by a new "Elite" system with HDMI to do it now if you want the best option for TV displays. Sony's cool upgrades are free, so don't get carried away either :).

Anyway I agree... we don't need a system wars thread.

X360 couldn't upscale DVDs except via the unrefined (for most HDTVs) VGA option until recently - and you still have to by a new "Elite" system with HDMI to do it now if you want the best option for TV displays. Sony's cool upgrades are free, so don't get carried away either :).

Anyway I agree... we don't need a system wars thread.

VGA isn't crippled on the 360 with the most recent black level update. Also I don't know what you were implying, but the 360's updates are free as well. That being said, I'm very happy with this PS3 update.......it definitely makes watching movies an even better experience.

VGA isn't crippled on the 360 with the most recent black level update. Also I don't know what you were implying, but the 360's updates are free as well. That being said, I'm very happy with this PS3 update.......it definitely makes watching movies an even better experience.

He said that VGA is unrefined on most HDTVs, not that there was something wrong w/ how the 360 is currently outputting it. In other words, a lot of HDTVs are supporting excellent HDMI and component inputs, but not VGA inputs. VGA is old and I think a lot of monitors are phasing it out. It is actually kinda weird to me that the 360 didnt just do HDMI or at least DVI.

The other point is that you have to pay more (to upgrade to an elite) to get decent upconversion on a 360 on a lot of monitors.

One of the differences between the PS3 and the 360 that speaks volumes to me though is the frequency of updates. Sony seems to be keeping good pace and fixing things fairly frequently, but it took MS months and months to finally fix their HD DVD issues among other things.

The other thing and I suppose this could be seen as insignificant but as someone that wanted to use his 360 for streaming video and HD playback just fast forwarding when your playing a video on the 360 is choppy and not smooth at all. When I got my PS3 I was so impressed that there wasn't that choppy video when I scanned through the same video file. The 360 definitely has the games right now and I like the controller way better, but it feels really cheap and thrown together when I use it for anything other then that. The PS3 doesn't.

-bish

At the risk of starting a flame war, I truly believe that once "Home" and "Little Big Planet" hit the PS3, the 360 will be a "last gen" console. These two will be so innovative and groundbreaking they will set new standards to console gaming, and this winter when "Ratchet and Clank" and "Uncharted" come out....oh boy. The future of console gaming is but a few months away. :D


not to be an ass, but how extactly is a 2nd life rip-off that MS could easily emulate and a platformer that if it was on the Wii would be called "kiddy" by most PS3 owners making the XB360 a last gen console. You act like this is stuff the XB360 couldn't easily emulate, if Home takes off MS could just create its own similar feature, and how hard is a physics based Platformer to create, I am guessing not hard at all.

not to be an ass, but how extactly is a 2nd life rip-off that MS could easily emulate and a platformer that if it was on the Wii would be called "kiddy" by most PS3 owners making the XB360 a last gen console. You act like this is stuff the XB360 couldn't easily emulate, if Home takes off MS could just create its own similar feature, and how hard is a physics based Platformer to create, I am guessing not hard at all.

I'm not a big fan of Little Big Planet as the gameplay looks more like a tech demo than fun to me, but creating a completely physics based game isn't easy not to mention the PS3 hardware has the advantage if used properly to build a physics based game around it. So could the 360 have a physics based game? Sure. Could the PS3 hardware have the advantage for a physics based game? Most definitely.

You're also missing another big point. While Microsoft promoted the huge concept of being able to customize your experience and your content before the 360 was launched at their E3 keynote, they have failed to really deliver on that front and that is where Little Big Planet is going to be a huge factor. After a year and a half, Microsoft still hasn't promoted user created content and that is one of the big strengths in this game. Not to mention that Sony plans to take advantage of user created content and release a disc based off the best levels in the community. Sure Microsoft and the 360 could do this, but why haven't they yet and when are they going to? What Little Big Planet is going to try to do is a significant change in how an online community will work with console gaming and you simply can't ignore what it brings to the table.

I have both consoles (just got the elite) and I have to say this latest update simply smacks down the 360. If they get the games up to par I might even sell the Elite.

They added DVD upscale. The X360 already has it.

They added game upscale. The X360 already has it with true 16:9 support on the bigger titles.

They added media streaming. The X360 already has it.

I'm happy the PS3 is catching up. I appreciate having DVD upscaling finally! I really don't see why your excitement translates into making a flamebait post that will simply create trouble here.

Enjoy the PS3 without dumping on others please.

creating a completely physics based game isn't easy not to mention the PS3 hardware has the advantage if used properly to build a physics based game around it. So could the 360 have a physics based game? Sure. Could the PS3 hardware have the advantage for a physics based game? Most definitely. .

Fortunately there are folks who can do it in under 50 megs on a 360.

Talk about a great thread title. JEESH why not just post "Please lock this"?

I posted this already but I just wanted to post it again.

Go to {Display setting} and enable a new setting called (RGB full range) (hdmi) to Full... Also their is a new (super-white) (HDMI) setting turn that ON also.

My review on this wonderful new settings.

After turning my RGB to full I was blown away on how much more PQ/contrast I got out of my LCD TV set. After some tv calibration, I turned off all the lights in my living room and let the magic begin, started two different titles 1st was SD DVD Training Day, amazing jump in pq, #2 titles BD dvd The Departed... Not only did my blacks get absolute black on both titles but the contract improved greatly with out crushing. I have been up all night playing around with my ps3 testing out different settings I have to say by far this upscaling update makes the ps3 worth ever cent and it will go down in history for setting a standard for home media devices. Best upscaling on the market this whole system is ahead of its time the market hasnt even caught up yet. If i was sony I wouldnt be doing any price drops until next year the system is worth the price. I find it really hard for anyone to find fault with the ps3 now. Yeah yeah yeah but what about games, Their are games for the ps3 so enough of that non-sence. This system at this point in time is by fair the best media player ever created. Blackest I have ever seen a LCD get its just amazing, truley black no more grey.

Upscaling 1080p on ps1/ps2 games is wicked. I poped in GOD of War 2, Shadows of colossus, Kingdom hearts2, RE4 and went Old school with some chronos cross, I coudlnt find a jaggy if I tried. The games where smooth as a babyies bottom. It made me wish I could have played them orginally like that. I didnt think sony could do it but dayum they shut me up. This update makes me want to hunt down all those ps2 games I might have missed or maybe not have finished and start all over again. This update will hold me until the block buster games come out.

After this update i can shamefully apologize for ever saying anything negative about the ps3 ,sony Hats off to you. I will not ever bash one of your products ever again.

One of the differences between the PS3 and the 360 that speaks volumes to me though is the frequency of updates. Sony seems to be keeping good pace and fixing things fairly frequently, but it took MS months and months to finally fix their HD DVD issues among other things.

Quality over quantity. This is the update that PS3 owners like myself have been waiting for since the system launched, and it took what, six months?

While Microsoft promoted the huge concept of being able to customize your experience and your content before the 360 was launched at their E3 keynote, they have failed to really deliver on that front and that is where Little Big Planet is going to be a huge factor.

While both companies have a strong record of overpromising and underdelivering, Sony's outstrips that of Microsoft by a mile and half. I'll believe what I see/read when it's available for me to actually try.

The other point is that you have to pay more (to upgrade to an elite) to get decent upconversion on a 360 on a lot of monitors.

The 360's upconversion is merely that - decent. A $60 standalone player will get you better results than any console. The PS3 certainly looked better than my 360 on an SD DVD but still nowhere near as good as my HD-A20.

Fortunately there are folks who can do it in under 50 megs on a 360.

Talk about a great thread title. JEESH why not just post "Please lock this"?

/agree

Lock please.

I love what Sony has done with the 1.80 update. But I'm not ready to put my 360 out to pasture because of it.
I feel that this update finally brings the PS3 up to where it should have been when it was released. However in the defense of the PS3 these same features came later in the life of the Xbox 360 also.
But the biggest thing that this means to me is that when playing a SD DVD or using the TVersity media server I can use either the PS3 or 360 and get the same results.

Heh, a firmware upgrade that adds features the 360 has had for years is something that makes the 360 somehow obsolete? What about a little thing called games that we get these consoles for? Oh yeaahh!! There's being a fanboy and then there's being just retarded.

IMO with this update Sony finally stopped talking and started walking. That doesn't mean the PS3 is better or surpasses the 360 or that now the PS3 will soon bring fanboy wrath in biblical proportions down onto MSFT. What it does mean is that Sony is now obviously listening to its customers and is willing to work hard and fight to earn their business and please their customers. It's a beginning for them as streaming and even upscaling is something that could and should have been offered at launch (just like 1080i scaling in PS3 games). This is the kind of fight that is good for a consumer and adds tangible value. A hype battle just exploits the ignorant and unintelligent segments.

This update is finally making me semi interested in getting a PS3. Too bad they were a month late with it for me; I just bought a second 360 to do what the PS3 couldn't at the time. For about $300 less too. ;)

Yeah, well mine is bigger than yours :D

Heh, a firmware upgrade that adds features the 360 has had for years is something that makes the 360 somehow obsolete?

Um a year and half... However it's not that it makes it obsolete, but I would argue it does the same things now but better. I own both and as of right now the 360 offers a lot more games then the PS3 does (not counting backward compatibility). Gears of War is a great game that wont be on the PS3. However I bought my 360 last Christmas in lieu of the PS3 because of the price difference and I found a place that had a good sale price on the 360. At the time I also thought HD DVD had a better chance of succeeding then Blu-ray. I wasn't a PS3 or 360 "fanboy" and I'm still not. I bought the system that I thought from what I had researched would be the best for what I wanted. I had even planned on selling the 360 I got at Christmas so that I could pay more then I originally paid to get an Elite for the HDMI capabilities. But when I found out that the Elite's HDMI wouldn't include loss-less audio, I put that money toward a PS3 instead. Figuring I'd go duel format, Blu-ray had picked up steam and there were quite a few movies I wanted, not many games though.

My point in saying all this though is that as someone that came into this first buying a 360 and then a PS3, I have been so far and away more impressed with the PS3 then I have been with the 360. Do I hate my 360? will I sell it because I like my PS3 better? no way, there are games on the 360 that I enjoy that I will never have on the PS3 and I've invested quite a bit of money into it. But if you were to ask me which system I feel I got the better deal out of, and which one feels like a solid machine I would hands down gowith the PS3. As I said before, it may seem trivial but the fact that I can fast forward through a Blu-ray disc or a video playing off the hard drive and have it play smoothly and not choppy like HD DVD's or video playing on my 360 do speaks volumes to me. I like both, I will keep and play both, but if thinking my PS3 is a more solid machine then my 360 makes me a "fanboy" then I guess I am. I'm actually rather saddened that the PS3 costs so much that it could hurt it's acceptance in the market. I really hope it doesn't fail because its a good system that does a lot and if they can just get the price lower and get some games out there it's my opinion from owning (and enjoying) both systems that it deserves to be dominant.

-bish

GOOD: Sony fixing the problems with the unit that its had since launch, kudos to them since they could have easily gone the other route and said "Those aren't bugs, they are features for your convenience".

BAD: Where are the damn games....people here keep quoting HOME and LBP like they are some kind of Killer App that everyone simply MUST have, which to me is the same as saying FOLDING is a killer app and PS3's will be flying off the shelves now. :P

I have both..my 360 is played frequently, my PS3 gets updates, then gets shut off.
Waiting...waiting....now maybe I'll play some of my PS3 games in 1080i, but amazingly
the games I've been playing lately are PS2 games of all things......on my PS2 even :P

I do agree as I said in my first post that the games are SORELY lacking for the PS3

AND I would love some games with split screen !!!

AND I would love some games with split screen !!!

RFoM has split screen co-op, it is a ton of fun.

Uh, that is about it. ;)

when did this thread become xbox vs playstation, save that s^^^ for elsewhere

EDIT: haha sorry thats kinda what this thread is huh? i thought i was in a diff thread, please continue

They added DVD upscale. The X360 already has it.

Yes but all 360's don't have an HDMI plug, so they're limited to VGA, which isn't as available. +1 PS3

They added game upscale. The X360 already has it with true 16:9 support on the bigger titles.

The PS3 backwards compatibility support is much better than the 360's. Now with this update it destroys it. +1 PS3

They added media streaming. The X360 already has it.

PS3 media streaming just came out, it seems rather clunky and not as polished as the 360's. +1 360

I'm happy the PS3 is catching up. I appreciate having DVD upscaling finally! I really don't see why your excitement translates into making a flamebait post that will simply create trouble here.

Enjoy the PS3 without dumping on others please.

Take your own advice and try to be a bit less biased about it next time eh?

What a crappy thread. Crap like this needs to be closed right away.

What a crappy thread. Crap like this needs to be closed right away.

Nothing wrong with discussion as long as it's civil. :)

I agree that with this update, the ps3 makes the 360 look very dated! I have absolutely no plans anymore to purchase a 360.

Fortunately there are folks who can do it in under 50 megs on a 360.

Talk about a great thread title. JEESH why not just post "Please lock this"?


lol i seriously thought he had a question/comment on the smackdown game for the 360...

What a crappy thread. Crap like this needs to be closed right away.


Opinions are a dime a dozen, everyone has got one and why these forums exist.
Whats next you want us to start burning books?

My mistake, I was bit harsh. Have you read the posts by Kysersose (the Moderator). It is pretty clear these types of threads aren't wanted here. Granted they always happen on both boards. :o

accepted. Yes I agree I was hesitant to post but I think my glee got the better of me and the hopes were to have engaging, calm discussion :)

I agree that with this update, the ps3 makes the 360 look very dated! I have absolutely no plans anymore to purchase a 360.

Well... if you look at both as a media player, may be...

But what if you want to play games like Gear of War, Forza 2, Dead Rising, etc.?

(Same for the other side, what if you like Motorstorm, Resistence, etc.?)

I have both I couldn't care less. I don't care which one is perceived as "better" or "more advance"... I'm going after the games not the platforms.

It is actually kinda weird to me that the 360 didnt just do HDMI or at least DVI.

I agree. And unfortunately HDMI can not be added to the original 360, hence the reason for the Elite.

According to some, DVD upscaling was never going to come to the PS3 because Sony was trying to protect their BD sales.:rolleyes:

According to some, DVD upscaling was never going to come to the PS3 because Sony was trying to protect their BD sales.:rolleyes:


What other reason could it actually be then? Becuase they just didn't want too? I am sure 2 years from now Sony will say just that if they become the standard on why it wasn't originally there. I don't see any other reason why you wouldn't for a system that had HDMI from the get go. Does that mean the PS3 had a crippled HDMI then. I don't think so because like I said I was one of the ones that stated the reason I believe they didn't add it was because the non experts or enthusiast wouldn't know the difference or much difference from playing a dvd movie vs BR on the PS3 itself. It seems like you think the majority of average people took the time to take their upconverson DVD and PS3 and compare the same movie side by side. Sony didn't want the comparisons and now that BR is out there and known why not give the update now to have the feature. Every store u go to that sales movies have BR and HD-DVD. This isn't difficult.


I mean think about it you got people who can't even tell they are watching Hi-Def(insert girlfriend here)

I feel like such a loser for buying a 360 ... *sob*

I feel like such a loser for buying a 360 ... *sob*


:rolleyes:

Get on live and do some gaming man. It is what these darn things were created for.

If you didn't have a wack of PS/PS2 games or were looking for a good upscaling DVD player this PS3 update shouldn't make you think you made a wrong decision.

At the risk of starting a flame war, I truly believe that once "Home" and "Little Big Planet" hit the PS3, the 360 will be a "last gen" console. These two will be so innovative and groundbreaking they will set new standards to console gaming, and this winter when "Ratchet and Clank" and "Uncharted" come out....oh boy. The future of console gaming is but a few months away. :D

There are a few things, which I don't believe in, that will make the PS3...

Sony is nailing them one after the other...

This latest update hit key marketing items that people are sensitive too.

From a technical standpoint, many of these have little merit. From a buzz and marketing standpoint, they are key.

Home is probably the next big thing.
I think it's fluff from a technical standpoint, but genius from a marketing standpoint.
Home could combine the appeal of MySpace and Second Life.

Take your own advice and try to be a bit less biased about it next time eh?

I'm biased because I said both consoles share the same features and you should not dump on one to celebrate the other? Give me a break.

Hopefully you're being sarcastic. If not, you're just being a fanboy.

Originally Posted by William Mapstone
According to some, DVD upscaling was never going to come to the PS3 because Sony was trying to protect their BD sales.
mboojigga, a 6 month wait is not "never". I mean for a game console, a 6 month wait for DVD upscale is no big deal IMO. HDMI needed to be their from the beginning, take note Microsoft, and a firmware update can easily come later.

By the way, my wife instantly noticed the difference between DVD and BD. She is sold!

According to some, DVD upscaling was never going to come to the PS3 because Sony was trying to protect their BD sales.:rolleyes:


I remember during the ps3 launch, some 360 & hd-dvd fanboys were going crazy claiming how flawed the blu-ray player was going to be because it didn't support 1080p/24hz and how hd-dvd was ahead and going to "kill" blu-ray.

Opinions are a dime a dozen, everyone has got one and why these forums exist.
Whats next you want us to start burning books?

Actually, threads regarding sales figures, financial releases, comparative console capabilities as well as general disparaging rhetoric ******** are all not allowed here and have been closed and locked fairly frequently with harsh words leaving no question as to those topics not being wanted.

Simple reason, this board is a private enterprise and a portion of the membership has shown themselves as unable to conduct themselves in a mature manner when engaged in any of those discussions and rather than ban a number of them they'd rather discourage the topics. It's less of a case of burning books to prevent communication and free flow of thought than it is to burn them so the retards don't start beating each other into a coma with them and turning this place into total trash.

Don't blame the admin, blame the immature *******s.

There are a few things, which I don't believe in, that will make the PS3...


Home is probably the next big thing.
I think it's fluff from a technical standpoint, but genius from a marketing standpoint.
Home could combine the appeal of MySpace and Second Life.

I think home may be the next pr nightmare for sony. Im logged into home and its so laggyy...this sucks..etcetc..

I remember during the ps3 launch, some 360 & hd-dvd fanboys were going crazy claiming how flawed the blu-ray player was going to be because it didn't support 1080p/24hz and how hd-dvd was ahead and going to "kill" blu-ray.

not just launch, basically up until this week..

I think the PS3 is working on going in the right direction but for myself I could care less about the SD upscaling and multi media aspects of the PS3 I already have electronics in my house that do both better. I just want the PS 3 to play the odd blu-ray movie and more importantly games which there are precious few of IMO. I find it pretty pathetic that my shiny new PS3 has spent more time playing God of War II then anything else. I have played through RFOM already and it was fun but short reminded me of Prey for length.
I look forward to when some of the hot new games come out like R&C but until then I think my 360 will be the console of choice in my home.
Cheers

I agree that with this update, the ps3 makes the 360 look very dated! I have absolutely no plans anymore to purchase a 360.

You mean it makes it look like the 360 is a year older than the PS3? Wait a second, it is....

I think the PS3 is working on going in the right direction but for myself I could care less about the SD upscaling and multi media aspects of the PS3 I already have electronics in my house that do both better. I just want the PS 3 to play the odd blu-ray movie and more importantly games which there are precious few of IMO. I find it pretty pathetic that my shiny new PS3 has spent more time playing God of War II then anything else. I have played through RFOM already and it was fun but short reminded me of Prey for length.
I look forward to when some of the hot new games come out like R&C but until then I think my 360 will be the console of choice in my home.
Cheers

Man 10-4 that. ps3 needs game. people shouldn't be playing ps2 games more than ps3 games on a $600 system

Has nobody ever bought a system at launch before? A lack of software is normal....

Can anyone recomend me a cheap/ open source program that I can use to host files to my PS3 now after this update?

I use VLC under Linux from Windows. However, how would someone take advantage of this streaming capability?

Thanks!

Can anyone recomend me a cheap/ open source program that I can use to host files to my PS3 now after this update?

I use VLC under Linux from Windows. However, how would someone take advantage of this streaming capability?

Thanks!


Not sure but I read today that Vista is able to stream with the new update with the PS3

Damn, no XP?

Damn, no XP?

Yes, just install Windows Media Player 11. Go into library under options and enable sharing.

Are you joking? 360 has had these features for like a year now and PS3 still has no games with cross platform titles running/looking better on the xbox(Pirates of the Caribbean is the latest example). I buy a console to play games, right now 360 has way more, way better games with multiplatform stuff looking and playing better. PS3 is soooo next gen that it doesn't even have rumble which has been around since like 95 lol.

Are you joking? 360 has had these features for like a year now and PS3 still has no games with cross platform titles running/looking better on the xbox(Pirates of the Caribbean is the latest example). I buy a console to play games, right now 360 has way more, way better games with multiplatform stuff looking and playing better. PS3 is soooo next gen that it doesn't even have rumble which has been around since like 95 lol.


Well um it has been said rumble is coming by the end of this year for the PS3. So u really can't use that one.

Rumble by the end of the year.Is Sony going to switch out the 2 controllers I`ve got.Sounds like a money grab.Can you say Microsoft ELITE.Both Sony and Microsoft will play the public.Charge extra for things that should have been there from the start.My OPPO does a lot better job of upscaling.Just give me some games.

Rumble by the end of the year.Is Sony going to switch out the 2 controllers I`ve got.Sounds like a money grab.Can you say Microsoft ELITE.Both Sony and Microsoft will play the public.Charge extra for things that should have been there from the start.My OPPO does a lot better job of upscaling.Just give me some games.


And u have a choice to buy it or not why would u or anyone think they are just going to switch out controllers. I hope you are not serious.

I'm biased because I said both consoles share the same features and you should not dump on one to celebrate the other? Give me a break.

Hopefully you're being sarcastic. If not, you're just being a fanboy.

Now you're just putting words into my mouth.

I never said any of that. But the way you evaluated the various features was obviously biased. And that's what I commented upon.

Are you joking? 360 has had these features for like a year now and PS3 still has no games with cross platform titles running/looking better on the xbox(Pirates of the Caribbean is the latest example). I buy a console to play games, right now 360 has way more, way better games with multiplatform stuff looking and playing better. PS3 is soooo next gen that it doesn't even have rumble which has been around since like 95 lol.

If the 360 is so much better than the PS3,why even bother defending it?