I haven't even gotten the new firmware yet, but let's start a thread that lists some good settings for different TV sets and media!

For the people who are lucky enough to already have the firmware update and have played around with it, please list your ideal settings and if possible explain what you believe each setting does to help the less knowledgeable (like me)

Myself, I'm most curious about what setting would be best for a 52" 1080p display when playing PS1 & PS2 games and also what would be best for widescreen DVDs. Thanks!

Over at HardForum, they are recommending the Full Range option be enabled for the Westinghouse 37w3.

Whats the ideal setting for a LGM4200C 42" 1360x768 monitor dvi w hdcp. Im usind HDMI through my yamaha rx-v1700, and from there HDMI-DVI.

Until now ive been using 1080p. Guessing the monitor has scaled it down to 768p.

Maybe i should remove 1080i and 1080p from supported res under hdmi now?
Should i only leave 720p and the lower settings. Or should i only choose 720p?

And what about this rgb full range and ybr?

And what should i choose under dvd upscaling settings?

Full range. WTW on.

Play with your settings. I vote for the higher resolution 1080i/p.

If widescreen dvds, then you can choose full or standard. Leave that double thing alone.

ps2 games turn smoothing on. Up to you whether you want to stretch the 4:3 games or not. The 16:9 ones should remain w/s.

I posted this already but just my 2 cents

Go to {Display setting} and enable a new setting called (RGB full range) (hdmi) to Full... Also their is a new (super-white) (HDMI) setting turn that ON also.

My review on this wonderful new settings.

After turning my RGB to full I was blown away on how much more PQ/contrast I got out of my LCD TV set. After some tv calibration, I turned off all the lights in my living room and let the magic begin, started two different titles 1st was SD DVD Training Day, amazing jump in pq, #2 titles BD dvd The Departed... Not only did my blacks get absolute black on both titles but the contract improved greatly with out crushing. I have been up all night playing around with my ps3 testing out different settings I have to say by far this upscaling update makes the ps3 worth ever cent and it will go down in history for setting a standard for home media devices. Best upscaling on the market this whole system is ahead of its time the market hasnt even caught up yet. If i was sony I wouldnt be doing any price drops until next year the system is worth the price. I find it really hard for anyone to find fault with the ps3 now. Yeah yeah yeah but what about games, Their are games for the ps3 so enough of that non-sence. This system at this point in time is by fair the best media player ever created. Blackest I have ever seen a LCD get its just amazing, truley black no more grey.

Upscaling 1080p on ps1/ps2 games is wicked. I poped in GOD of War 2, Shadows of colossus, Kingdom hearts2, RE4 and went Old school with some chronos cross, I coudlnt find a jaggy if I tried. The games where smooth as a babyies bottom. It made me wish I could have played them orginally like that. I didnt think sony could do it but dayum they shut me up. This update makes me want to hunt down all those ps2 games I might have missed or maybe not have finished and start all over again. This update will hold me until the block buster games come out.

After this update i can shamefully apologize for ever saying anything negative about the ps3 ,sony Hats off to you. I will not ever bash one of your products ever again.

Anyone using a Sammy lnr-238w 23 inch HDTV LCD? I wonder what the best config. would be.

what's the best setting for Panasonic ED plasma?

what does smoothing do? should that be on or off?

I posted this already but just my 2 cents

Go to {Display setting} and enable a new setting called (RGB full range) (hdmi) to Full... Also their is a new (super-white) (HDMI) setting turn that ON also.

My review on this wonderful new settings.

After turning my RGB to full I was blown away on how much more PQ/contrast I got out of my LCD TV set. After some tv calibration, I turned off all the lights in my living room and let the magic begin, started two different titles 1st was SD DVD Training Day, amazing jump in pq, #2 titles BD dvd The Departed... Not only did my blacks get absolute black on both titles but the contract improved greatly with out crushing. I have been up all night playing around with my ps3 testing out different settings I have to say by far this upscaling update makes the ps3 worth ever cent and it will go down in history for setting a standard for home media devices. Best upscaling on the market this whole system is ahead of its time the market hasnt even caught up yet. If i was sony I wouldnt be doing any price drops until next year the system is worth the price. I find it really hard for anyone to find fault with the ps3 now. Yeah yeah yeah but what about games, Their are games for the ps3 so enough of that non-sence. This system at this point in time is by fair the best media player ever created. Blackest I have ever seen a LCD get its just amazing, truley black no more grey.

Upscaling 1080p on ps1/ps2 games is wicked. I poped in GOD of War 2, Shadows of colossus, Kingdom hearts2, RE4 and went Old school with some chronos cross, I coudlnt find a jaggy if I tried. The games where smooth as a babyies bottom. It made me wish I could have played them orginally like that. I didnt think sony could do it but dayum they shut me up. This update makes me want to hunt down all those ps2 games I might have missed or maybe not have finished and start all over again. This update will hold me until the block buster games come out.

After this update i can shamefully apologize for ever saying anything negative about the ps3 ,sony Hats off to you. I will not ever bash one of your products ever again.


I have a 720p Sony LCD Tv and I will try out these settings tonite and post back with results.

This is a good thread to organize all these new options into some reccomendations we can try out.

what does smoothing do? should that be on or off?
it smoothens ps2 games slightly removing a lot of jaggies. judging by screenshots ive seen, this should be enabled.

as for the "Full" range RGB, i think you should test this using the brightness test someone posted earlier. for me, i can see all the boxes in Full mode if i turn the brightness higher, but that means i will have to use different settings for games and movies. setting it to "limited" allows me to use the same brightness setting for both games and movies.

thanks Rahzel

I've read people stating that full range is creating black crush that can't be balanced out with brightness control.

as for the "Full" range RGB, i think you should test this using the brightness test someone posted earlier. for me, i can see all the boxes in Full mode if i turn the brightness higher, but that means i will have to use different settings for games and movies. setting it to "limited" allows me to use the same brightness setting for both games and movies.


ditto...


movies/blu-ray are perfect with Full RGB/Full White as they pass BTB/WTW. Games and the XMB crush blacks at this setting (for me).

If limited works for you, the only thing you are missing is BTB and WTW, which really won't affect your PQ, especially with a digital display. From what it seems, the PS3 is doing the right thing for movies by using the full RGB scale.... under the XMB/games the full scale somehow needs to be adjusted up to be equal.

I've read people stating that full range is creating black crush that can't be balanced out with brightness control.


I can balance out the brightness under both modes, its just that the full RGB behaves differently for movies as compared to the XMB...

I still wonder if they are using a different IRE for movies vs games/XMB... (0 IRE vs 7.5 IRE)

I think 1080p for games/BD is best, but you don't want to upscale ps1/2 and dvd's to 1080p and then have your set downscale back to 720p...More than one scale and you are going to lose PQ. I'd set ps1/2 and DVD to 720p and leave the rest at 1080p if possible, not sure what combination of settings will do that, I'll have to play around with the ps3 after work today.

Edit: This is if you have a 720p native tv that will also display 1080p with a decent scaler...

Hitachi 57s700 CRT through the DVI input here.

I've got RGB range set to "Full". It looks fantastic, still using the same brightness settings for DVD/BD and games.

Haven't tried Super-White. Does it do anything if you're using RGB HDMI output? It says "Y Pb/Pr Cb/Cr Super-White" so I figured it wouldn't have any effect unless you're using the Y Pb/Pr Cb/Cr HDMI setting.

As for upscaling and smoothing, I haven't noticed any dramatic change yet. I've left upscaling on for DVDs and games. Smoothing seems to make the picture a bit too soft for a CRT set so it's set to off. I'll do some more testing later and may change my mind.

ditto...


movies/blu-ray are perfect with Full RGB/Full White as they pass BTB/WTW. Games and the XMB crush blacks at this setting (for me).

If limited works for you, the only thing you are missing is BTB and WTW, which really won't affect your PQ, especially with a digital display. From what it seems, the PS3 is doing the right thing for movies by using the full RGB scale.... under the XMB/games the full scale somehow needs to be adjusted up to be equal.
well, passing BTB/WTW should give you better gradience, but i doubt it would be noticeable. for me, setting RGB to Limited still passes WTW, but it doesn't pass BTB. hopefully sony fixes this. the only other thing i hope Sony adds, is support for other video codecs/containers. still, a job well done by Sony with this update.

lol. I have a feeling that there won't be any noticable differences since I have an LCD.

The way I understand Full RGB vs limited is that Full would output the total 0 - 255 range of RGB color while limited is 16-235... the intermediate black level gradients should be exactly the same. This is corroborated by what I see with DVE and test patterns when running lmited vs Full. The only difference is the presence of BTB/WTW.

Anyone using the Sony KDSR60XBR1? What settings are you using for the new update?

ditto...


movies/blu-ray are perfect with Full RGB/Full White as they pass BTB/WTW. Games and the XMB crush blacks at this setting (for me).

If limited works for you, the only thing you are missing is BTB and WTW, which really won't affect your PQ, especially with a digital display. From what it seems, the PS3 is doing the right thing for movies by using the full RGB scale.... under the XMB/games the full scale somehow needs to be adjusted up to be equal.What is your HDMI setting for BD/DVD, RGB or Y Pb/Pr Cb/Cr? I'm thinking if you're using Y Pb/Pr Cb/Cr then "RGB: Full" will have no effect with movies but you'll see the black crush with the XMB and games since they use RGB. In that case you should probably leave RGB at Limited and Super-White on.

What is your HDMI setting for BD/DVD, RGB or Y Pb/Pr Cb/Cr? I'm thinking if you're using Y Pb/Pr Cb/Cr then "RGB: Full" will have no effect with movies but you'll see the black crush with the XMB and games since they use RGB. In that case you should probably leave RGB at Limited and Super-White on.


I use RGB for BD playback... I will test this out tonight. I have a Pioneer 59AVi dvd player that I calibrated the HDMI input with and it is putting out full RGB levels. The PS3 using DVE behaves identically to it. That is what leads me to believe that different settings are being used in movies vs games/XMB.

Only thing is that I don't know if Y Pb/Pr Cb/Cr passes BTB/WTW.... I never checked...

we need the avia II bluray now!!!!

I have a 720p Sony LCD Tv and I will try out these settings tonite and post back with results.

This is a good thread to organize all these new options into some reccomendations we can try out.

You don't see much improvements on 720p though. 1080p is the magic.

Are all of these new options available for mostly HDMI only? I have an 1080i component input only HDTV. What are the best settings to use for that?

You don't see much improvements on 720p though. 1080p is the magic.


Thanks for rubbing it in! :p

Are all of these new options available for mostly HDMI only? I have an 1080i component input only HDTV. What are the best settings to use for that?I think the upscale/smoothing options for games apply to component, all the rest though are HDMI settings.

So the superwhite and the DVD upscaling means nothing. Also, all of the "official" release notes for this firmware state "1080p". Do they also mean "1080i" for those of us with component?

I am very thankful for the media server update though. It's my first time with a media server over wireless. This is VERY cool.

So the superwhite and the DVD upscaling means nothing. Also, all of the "official" release notes for this firmware state "1080p". Do they also mean "1080i" for those of us with component?

I am very thankful for the media server update though. It's my first time with a media server over wireless. This is VERY cool.I just checked to be sure and that's right. They have no effect on component. And yeah, they mean up to 1080p so games can be upscaled to 1080i or 720p over component.

I just checked to be sure and that's right. They have no effect on component. And yeah, they mean up to 1080p so games can be upscaled to 1080i or 720p over component.
Nice. Thanks for checking! :) I wish they would be more specific with their specs when they give release notes.

Also, why not upconvert 720p games to 1080i? To me, this would seem to indicate that the PS3 doesn't have the processing power to take 720p video and upscale, in real time, to 1080i. I hope they prove me wrong. I'd like to get Fight Night Round 3, but I'm not paying $60 to play a game in 480p. :rolleyes:

we need the avia II bluray now!!!!

yes we do!!!!!

So the superwhite and the DVD upscaling means nothing. Also, all of the "official" release notes for this firmware state "1080p". Do they also mean "1080i" for those of us with component?

I am very thankful for the media server update though. It's my first time with a media server over wireless. This is VERY cool.
if u'll notice it says up to 1080p, which includes all the resolutions below it such has 1080i and 720p. i can confirm dvd and blu-ray now are scaled to 720p, my display's native resolution.

gotcha...thanks

So what will the best settings be for 37w3?

Currently I have the Games to Full Screen w/smoothing on.

I did see the RGB & HDMI white options; do I adjust those also?

So what will the best settings be for 37w3?

Currently I have the Games to Full Screen w/smoothing on.

I did see the RGB & HDMI white options; do I adjust those also?

it's probably best to just fiddle with the settings urself and see what suits your liking. some ppl felt the smoothing made the games look soft and took away some detail. some ppl enjoyed the hell out of it, said their older games look very polished.

as far as rgb and hdmi settings, i think the consensus is for gaming leave the rgb on limited, for movies put on full. not sure if the whites are effected at all if you have hdmi set to rgb.

Anyone using a Mits DLP? I have the WD-57831 and was curious if anyone else has some settings they'd like to share!

I have a WD-52631, what settings should be set for upscaling for widescreen capable games? It seems like most people say FULL and then turn the widescreen option on in-game; is that correct? Just wanted to make sure that this would not make the picture stretch. Also what about an older game like Kingdom Hearts 1, which has no widescreen option at all? Thanks!

I have a WD-52631, what settings should be set for upscaling for widescreen capable games? It seems like most people say FULL and then turn the widescreen option on in-game; is that correct? Just wanted to make sure that this would not make the picture stretch. Also what about an older game like Kingdom Hearts 1, which has no widescreen option at all? Thanks!

An older game like KH1 you play in the original 4:3 with Normal upscaling like a gentleman.

There are just too many places to set display properties. We have full vs. standard (what the heck does that mean even mean?), we have widescreen vs. standard for the PS3 settings, then we have PS2 games that have in-game widescreen vs. standard or 16:9 vs. standard, etc. Then we have TV's that do 480p and 720p; or 480p and 1080i, or 480p 720p and 1080i, or 480p, 720p, 1080i and 1080p. Add to that, superwhite, BD playback options like "video" or "standard". These descriptions are hardly indicators of their respective functions and nothing has been standardized. Some of these function when using HDMI, but not component. One needs some kind of cheat sheet that shows each possible scenario.

And that's not including all of the audio features either. Just way too many scenarios to keep track. Plus, they change or get updated during each firmware. It's hard to keep up.

There are just too many places to set display properties. We have full vs. standard (what the heck does that mean even mean?), we have widescreen vs. standard for the PS3 settings, then we have PS2 games that have in-game widescreen vs. standard or 16:9 vs. standard, etc. Then we have TV's that do 480p and 720p; or 480p and 1080i, or 480p 720p and 1080i, or 480p, 720p, 1080i and 1080p. Add to that, superwhite, BD playback options like "video" or "standard". These descriptions are hardly indicators of their respective functions and nothing has been standardized. Some of these function when using HDMI, but not component. One needs some kind of cheat sheet that shows each possible scenario.

And that's not including all of the audio features either. Just way too many scenarios to keep track. Plus, they change or get updated during each firmware. It's hard to keep up.

that is why Wii is the best selling console. cheap, simple, fun.

i believe the full screen scaling would streth a 4:3 image to fill the screen, might be suitable for those using plasmas that don't want stationary black bars on their screens burning in. the rest of us should set them to standard/normal and use the in game modes to go widescreen on games that support ws.

most older projection crt hdtv's only do 480p and 1080i, sony models do 720p as well. most fixed-pixel (dlp, plasma, lcd, lcos) displays have a 1366x768 or 1280x720 resolution, but can accept 1080i signals and scale them to fit the screen but some cannot accept and convert 1080p signals. with 1080p tv's u're good to go with everything, just check off all the signals in the display setting or use auto.

as far as the rgb black and super white settings, i still got some messing around to do. the popular settign is setting blu-ray to RGB where ur choices are auto/rgb/ypypx, set rgb to full over limited for better blacks, and set super-white to On. i dunno if the super white on will have any effect if bd display via hdmi is set to rgb.

upscaling work for component and hdmi for ps and ps2 games, and unprotected dvd's. protected dvds can only be upscaled via hdmi.

hope that helps some confused ppl out a bit. my only question now is whether i should set bluray hdmi setting to rgb or ypxpy.

The Wii is a hassle too with having to know which games support widescreen to use fullscreen or not on the TV, switching back and forth as well.

There are just too many places to set display properties. We have full vs. standard (what the heck does that mean even mean?), we have widescreen vs. standard for the PS3 settings, then we have PS2 games that have in-game widescreen vs. standard or 16:9 vs. standard, etc. Then we have TV's that do 480p and 720p; or 480p and 1080i, or 480p 720p and 1080i, or 480p, 720p, 1080i and 1080p. Add to that, superwhite, BD playback options like "video" or "standard". These descriptions are hardly indicators of their respective functions and nothing has been standardized. Some of these function when using HDMI, but not component. One needs some kind of cheat sheet that shows each possible scenario.

And that's not including all of the audio features either. Just way too many scenarios to keep track. Plus, they change or get updated during each firmware. It's hard to keep up.

qft. Sometimes the most confusing part is how many different places we have to change video settings. Does changing one and leaving another garner an effect? Who knows...


I dont know enough to know what BTB and WTW really means so I've gota few questions.

If I am using HDMI to a DLP TV, should I be using RGB or the other one?
What does crushed blacks mean? Im guessing that it means that blacks that should be lighter than other blacks are just as dark making difference in black neglible.


Thats all for now.

I dont know enough to know what BTB and WTW really means so I've gota few questions.

If I am using HDMI to a DLP TV, should I be using RGB or the other one?
What does crushed blacks mean? Im guessing that it means that blacks that should be lighter than other blacks are just as dark making difference in black neglible.

Thats all for now.
i think crushed black means instead of seeing details in black. like the creases on a black suit, all u see is flat black with no detail. i see some of this on my screen, tho i think it's an inherent shortcoming of dlp and lcd technology.