I don't know how many out there are old enough to remember VHS and BETA video tapes, but I do. Way back when a movie came out on home video, the studios marketed it as "Now on VHS and BETA. Afterwards, when VHS beat out BETA, they marketed it as "Now on VHS". Then when DVDs showed up on the scene, they marketed it as "Now on VHS and DVD" and later on "Now on DVD". I've now seen a commercial for "Apocalypto" marketed as "Now on Blu-ray and DVD". The format has conquered.

Wolfie

Your kidding right? This can't be serious.

I've now seen a commercial for "Apocalypto" marketed as "Now on Blu-ray and DVD". The format has conquered.

Wolfie
I guess HD DVD has "conquered" as well, I've seen Universal and Warner titles marketed the same way :)

I want the time it took me to read your inane post back for my life.

I guess HD DVD has "conquered" as well, I've seen Universal and Warner titles marketed the same way :)

Except Warner markets blu-ray discs as well....

Except Warner markets blu-ray discs as well....

Now only if they'd actually release some.

PS I want some of what Wolfie is smoking.

Except Warner markets blu-ray discs as well....
Not sure how that negates my point........ Both next-gen formats have been marketed this way.

I don't know how many out there are old enough to remember VHS and BETA video tapes, but I do. Way back when a movie came out on home video, the studios marketed it as "Now on VHS and BETA. Afterwards, when VHS beat out BETA, they marketed it as "Now on VHS". Then when DVDs showed up on the scene, they marketed it as "Now on VHS and DVD" and later on "Now on DVD". I've now seen a commercial for "Apocalypto" marketed as "Now on Blu-ray and DVD". The format has conquered.

Wolfie

If it were only that simple. But, as others have pointed out, HD-DVD has the same taglines for some of their releases.

Of course Apocalypto would be advertised like that. Touchstone Pictures is Blu-ray exclusive.

It's like saying King Kong "Now on HD-DVD and DVD". The format has conqured.

I want the time it took me to read your inane post back for my life.

Hysterically funny. My wife and I cracked up.

I want the time it took me to read your inane post back for my life.


:D Hysterical, definitely my time worth seeing what's going on in the Blu-Ray forums this week.

I don't know how many out there are old enough to remember VHS and BETA video tapes, but I do. Way back when a movie came out on home video, the studios marketed it as "Now on VHS and BETA. Afterwards, when VHS beat out BETA, they marketed it as "Now on VHS". Then when DVDs showed up on the scene, they marketed it as "Now on VHS and DVD" and later on "Now on DVD". I've now seen a commercial for "Apocalypto" marketed as "Now on Blu-ray and DVD". The format has conquered.

Wolfie

COme on man.. I bleed blue too - but you do realize BV only releases on DVD and BR?

So if the 40 year old virgin advert states on DVD and HD DVD, does this mean the en of blu ray? Because I have an add that states that.

PS I want some of what Wolfie is smoking.

It's $200 a 1/4, but obviously worth it!

Wolfie, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

I jest meant that them their High Definition disc thingies is now being mentioned afore the dvd disc thingies by them their moviemakers when they is a-tryin to sell them movies. Everyone here who can't understand the post, GET A LIFE and move on. Quit trying to interpret it as rambling.

Wolfie

I want the time it took me to read your inane post back for my life.

If you've followed woolfy's posts in the programming section, than his post here would come of no surprise. He's stolen a lot of people's time with his posts. Unfortunately, it's not illegal.

Quit trying to interpret it as rambling.

Wolfie


But it is.

He's stolen a lot of people's time with his posts. Unfortunately, it's not illegal.

LOL...as always well put.

i believe its conquer when you see it in theaters and last i remember was warner before spider man 3 movie and other movies with own matrix trilogy in high def and then coming to hd-dvd :o

More hddvd trolls on here hoping and hoping that hddvd will beat BD. Why do they want this format war to go on forever? Can't we just get behind BD already?

More hddvd trolls on here hoping and hoping that hddvd will beat BD. Why do they want this format war to go on forever? Can't we just get behind BD already?

Although the reasoning behind his opinion makes no sense, I am sure hopeful his conclusion is correct. Only one format is best and there is now way in the world HD DVD can win so I sure hope Blu-ray can find a way. Otherwise I believe we have redundant formats and neither ever amounts to much in terms of market share and software selection. A far too great percentage of the potential market avoids both as long as two exist. Affordable quality dual format players will help some, but don't solve the problem.

Chris

i believe its conquer when you see it in theaters and last i remember was warner before spider man 3 movie and other movies with own matrix trilogy in high def and then coming to hd-dvd :o

I'm having a hard time understanding the point you are trying to make. Your points are lost on me, due to the lack of sentence structure. There seems to be three sentences floating around in your single sentence.

Wolfie, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Nice! I love Billy Madison. That is one hilarious flick!!!!!

I'm having a hard time understanding the point you are trying to make. Your points are lost on me, due to the lack of sentence structure. There seems to be three sentences floating around in your single sentence.
i was just replicating what the op said, but with the fip side of what hd-dvd has. :p inteindense sonso?

More hddvd trolls on here hoping and hoping that hddvd will beat BD. Why do they want this format war to go on forever? Can't we just get behind BD already?
no i pass. i rather not be behind blu ray with their prices i rather be in front of them, if you know what i mean.... :p

I jest meant that them their High Definition disc thingies is now being mentioned afore the dvd disc thingies by them their moviemakers when they is a-tryin to sell them movies. Everyone here who can't understand the post, GET A LIFE and move on. Quit trying to interpret it as rambling.

Wolfie

I interpreted it as stupid. Both HD DVD and Blu-ray have commercials that say "Now available on DVD and Blu-ray" and "Now available on DVD and HDDVD". This thread is completely useless.

More hddvd trolls on here hoping and hoping that hddvd will beat BD. Why do they want this format war to go on forever? Can't we just get behind BD already?

Are we reading the same thread? It looks like EVERYONE is trolling here, including the original poster.

Some please close this before it gets too ugly

He is only commenting on the fact that the commercial for the video release says "now available on Blu-ray disc and DVD" and not in the opposite order as usual. This "implies" a push for Blu-ray by BVHV.

Some please close this before it gets too ugly

I second that.

Although the reasoning behind his opinion makes no sense, I am sure hopeful his conclusion is correct. Only one format is best and there is now way in the world HD DVD can win so I sure hope Blu-ray can find a way. Otherwise I believe we have redundant formats and neither ever amounts to much in terms of market share and software selection. A far too great percentage of the potential market avoids both as long as two exist. Affordable quality dual format players will help some, but don't solve the problem.

Chris

AMEN.....

There is now no way HD-DVD can win, and by prolonging the format war, it only makes it more likely HD in general will fail....

Everyone here GET A LIFE and move on. Quit trying to interpret it as rambling.

Wolfie

I completely agree with Wolfie here. Let's move on and close this pointless thread already.

AMEN.....

There is now no way HD-DVD can win, and by prolonging the format war, it only makes it more likely HD in general will fail....

At least possible that both of these HD disc formats fail. HD in general is doing better than I had thought it would be with cable, OTA and satellite HDTV appealing to consumers.

chris

There is now no way HD-DVD can win

In the hopes of actually making this thread somewhat worthwhile... care to back that up?

People right now can buy an HD DVD player for $250-300, with 5 free titles via mail-in, and with many retailers also offering free titles with the purchase of The Matrix.

How, exactly, is there "no way" that HD DVD can win, given that scenario?


I'm not saying that HD DVD *will* win, or that BD *can't* win. (Frankly, I see this probably becoming a stalemate, with both formats going niche.) But I'm wondering if this "no way HD DVD can win" position is built from logic, or just emotion/hope.

I don't know how many out there are old enough to remember VHS and BETA video tapes, but I do. Way back when a movie came out on home video, the studios marketed it as "Now on VHS and BETA. Afterwards, when VHS beat out BETA, they marketed it as "Now on VHS". Then when DVDs showed up on the scene, they marketed it as "Now on VHS and DVD" and later on "Now on DVD". I've now seen a commercial for "Apocalypto" marketed as "Now on Blu-ray and DVD". The format has conquered.

Wolfie
LOL :D :D :D

Why can't HDDVD just die? this is pathetic supporting a non-existant format like some do.

AMEN.....

There is now no way HD-DVD can win, and by prolonging the format war, it only makes it more likely HD in general will fail....

Of course it will not win, it will only win in the minds of those who still thinks Santa Clause is for real.

And look at all the pathetic movies HD-DVD got, there is maybe 2 or 3 movies i would buy of them all.

Actually, this thread reminded me of the ridiculous advertising when DVD was an emerging format.

"Own it on video and DVD!"

That's right. VHS had prevailed to the point it was no longer VHS, just VIDEO. Forget that laserdiscs (or videodiscs) were still around til at least 1999 (Episode I).

Those ads made me crazy. "VHS and DVD are both video! What are they saying?!"

I still have a hard time believing VHS is gone now. I forget that it is. I'm not sure anyone could have foreseen how quickly that happened once DVD came around. Us home theater buffs had our awesome little niche format for such a short time before it became "the new VHS."

I still remember the guy at Blockbuster, months before they started carrying any DVDs saying to me, "It might be nice for some action movies, but other than that I don't see the point," or some drivel very close to that.

BD will continue as a movie format for the PS3 Only. HD DVD will prevail as a genral movie format. IMO.

BD is for PS3 what UMD is for the PSP.

Not sure how well UMD is doing, but the sales of BD seems to be flat since the beginning of 2007 - well correlated with the flat sales of the PS3 so far.

BD will continue as a movie format for the PS3 Only. HD DVD will prevail as a genral movie format. IMO.

BD is for PS3 what UMD is for the PSP.

Not sure how well UMD is doing, but the sales of BD seems to be flat since the beginning of 2007 - well correlated with the flat sales of the PS3 so far.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

That's right, Nielsen was paid off for those 70-30 sales figures.

The beginning of the year is when BD sales went up.

Neither format is doing phenomenally well by any means, but software sales for Blu-ray have clearly been better, with even the neutral studios selling more on Blu-ray.