I haven't updated by Ps3 yet but from what I've read on the forum , it seems like Ps3 can now play blu-ray movies on 720p instead of 1080i. I have Olevia 32" LCD with max resolution of 1360 x 768.

Now the question is should I now select 720p as the highest resolution on Ps3 (previously 1080i was automatically select by Ps3) ? Will I see any difference in P/Q ? Secondly, about the new feature BTB and WTW....will turning them on along with 720p make a big difference ?

1. It depends on how your tv handles scaling, what the native resolution of your tv is, etc. Very much a case-by-case basis. It is user preference as well. I prefer 1080i for movies on my 768 display, while I prefer 720 for games.

2. Yes.

i updated by ps3 and I tried Apocalypto and POTC and I couldn't tell the difference between 1080i and 720p (did not change any other option). Is that how is supposed to be or am i missing anything cuz from what I was told 720p should look better than 1080i cuz my LCD's native resolution is 720p.

i updated by ps3 and I tried Apocalypto and POTC and I couldn't tell the difference between 1080i and 720p (did not change any other option). Is that how is supposed to be or am i missing anything cuz from what I was told 720p should look better than 1080i cuz my LCD's native resolution is 720p.
Most panels have a native resolution of 768 so there has to be some scaling anyway. Some look better going from 1080 to 768 and some look better going 720 to 768. Depends on your display. If your panel is 1280x720 native than yes 720p should look the best, but it's not going to be a night and day difference.

if thats the case then I don't know why people were dying for Ps3 to do 720p for movies

On my 768p plasma, I prefer to output 1080p for Blu-ray and 720p for upscaled DVD. I wish there were separate settings for each.

On my 768p plasma, I prefer to output 1080p for Blu-ray and 720p for upscaled DVD. I wish there were separate settings for each.

why is that ? Does it make a big difference ?

why is that ? Does it make a big difference ?Scaling 720x480 to 1920x1080 and then back to 1365x768 results in more detail loss than I would like.

if thats the case then I don't know why people were dying for Ps3 to do 720p for movies
because some displays are better going from 720 to 768 than 1080 to 768. Also, some displays are 1280x720 native.
why is that ? Does it make a big difference ?
This is AVS and you have to understand that these member scrutinize for every bit of PQ. It may seem silly, but for many here it does make a difference.

Don't feel bad if you can't see a difference most people won't.

because some displays are better going from 720 to 768 than 1080 to 768. Also, some displays are 1280x720 native.

This is AVS and you have to understand that these member scrutinize for every bit of PQ. It may seem silly, but for many here it does make a difference.

and how can i determine what's good for my LCD...without comparing it side by side on both resolution

if thats the case then I don't know why people were dying for Ps3 to do 720p for movies

This was because not all TV's would downscale from 1080i to 720p and without the PS3 supporting 720p playback people were getting stuck watching blu-ray at 480p.

In my case i got a LG M4200C monitor (1360x768, dvi w hdcp). Usind HDMI through my Yamaha RX-V1700, then hdmi -> dvi.

If i have the PS3 at 720p or 1080p its more or less impossible to see the diffrence.

So I guess that means that if I have it at 1080p my monitor downscales it to 768p, and if I have it at 720p its upscaled to 768p by my monitor.

That should mean that 1080p really is the best setting for me?

Must be better to have to many than to few? The monitor has to invent the last 48p if I have the ps3 at 720p right?

So even though I cant see it 1080p should be the best i guess...

thx

and how can i determine what's good for my LCD...without comparing it side by side on both resolution
Without looking for yourself you can try searching here in the display forums for your model and see what people have to say about it. Many people post about their setups and results after playing with their displays.

Originally posted by wsylvan
This was because not all TV's would downscale from 1080i to 720p and without the PS3 supporting 720p playback people were getting stuck watching blu-ray at 480p.
All 720P displays accept 1080i and will scale it to its native resolution. The problem was that some displays would scale 1080i down to 540P before upscaling to 720P or 768P.

All 720P displays accept 1080i and will scale it to its native resolution. The problem was that some displays would scale 1080i down to 540P before upscaling to 720P or 768P.

how would i know that mine is downscaling it to 540p before upscaling because that can help decide whether to keep Ps3 output at 1080i or change it to 720p.

It looks like now we need to break down and get a good 1080p TV that has HDMI 1.3 support...and 1080p 24 fps support.

I am just waiting for the price to drop a bit. I really want to go to 1080p...

how would i know that mine is downscaling it to 540p before upscaling because that can help decide whether to keep Ps3 output at 1080i or change it to 720p.Practically none. Use your eyes...

Practically none. Use your eyes...

Never imagined that just watching TV can be this confusing :confused: :confused:

Never imagined that just watching TV can be this confusing :confused: :confused:
I know, I play around with the settings and I typically can never tell either.
All 720P displays accept 1080i and will scale it to its native resolution. The problem was that some displays would scale 1080i down to 540P before upscaling to 720P or 768P.
Ahh yes that was the big issue, I forgot about that.

ajamils, do a search in the display portion of this forum and you might be lucky and find some info relating to your specific display.

is being 720p native is same as having max resolution of 1360 x 768 ?? :confused: I don't think thats the case....then if I feed it 1080i, it would just have to downscale instead of upscaling 720p to 768 (in which case the TV will have to come up with extra lines).... With that in mind, 1080i output from Ps3 should look better than 720p.....right ? :confused:

I really can't see much of a difference between 720p and 1080i on my Samsung HLS4266W DLP ... there is a difference but it is VERY subtle. To be honest, I never had any problems watching Blu-ray at 1080i and playing games at 720p ... but it was a minor annoyance to have to go into the PS3's display settings and select/deselect 1080i all the time. I won't play games in anything other than 720p. Maybe I'm just lazy :D

wat difference does 720p make for games ? I always played them at 1080i.

I've not noticed any big difference going from 1080i to 720p output on my PS3/Sanyo Z2 system. At least, not for movies, although I have the distinct impression things might be more "crispy". The biggest difference though is that now when I do web browsing, or play games that support 1080i, I end up getting a better image since there is no projector scaling involved on those tasks(nor source scaling, it's native 720p all the way).

Allan

wat difference does 720p make for games ? I always played them at 1080i.

I seem to notice a performance increase when playing @ 720p, and also in video games there are lots of perfectly straight lines, which contributes to aliasing.

If you render a straight line at 1080i and then the display throws away some of those lines (to display at 768p for example), the aliasing is actually exaggerated. Rendering in 720p and then upscaling slightly to 768p (which is what my display does) actually smooths out some of the aliasing.

In movies, the added detail from outputting in 1080i/p more than makes up for the aliasing, but in games the textures usually dont have the detail to make it worth it.

Marvel UA is a big hit at my place when friends are over. I seem to get better performance and also better PQ when playing it as 720p vs 1080i. (my display again is 768 native)

Just my opinion.