hi-jack, since you talk about the "no difference" between the lim and the tvix, what makes you give them higher score on HD playback in your review?

Comparing to the low cost popcorn hour, would the PQ and performance be much better in playing HD stuff on the A-100?

I'm someone who just need a "never hang" H.264 player with MKV support. A good player that's able to play back most of the encoded music without problems. As long as it can let me hook up the HDD via USB or SATA/PATA, transferring files without problems, I'm more than happy enough. Sometimes, I really do not understand why people want to waste so much resources (in terms of transmission energy) to stream stuff across the network.....

I heard a lot of rumors about A-100 being extremely buggy (not sure if it's all spreaded by the competitors) but being unable to sustain the supply chain after so much hype is really a huge disappointment.....

sometimes, I would think this way, "why not just grab the A-100 if you manage to get 1, and wait until it become matured and you will only become happier. USD175, that's so much you can lose for a more future proof player. The investment you are dumping on either tvix/lim is simply not worth it......obsoleting processors, yet still suffering from buggy firmwares....."

tingshen wrote:

Sometimes, I really do not understand why people want to waste so much resources (in terms of transmission energy) to stream stuff across the network.....

There are many people such as myself that do not want to be limited to an internal HDD or USB drive of a network media player because:

- We require a lot of HDD space
- Do not want to be limited to storing video on 1-2 drives
- Do not want to physically move a HDD around
- Want ALL of our video files at our finger tips when the mood strikes
- We own network servers
- We want expandability of storage as our collection of video increases
- We want the speed and convenience of storing video on HDDs internal to the PC on which the video was recorded or edited.

I record video from TV and archive video. At the moment I have roughly 2TB of video files. We have two HDTVs and two networked media players. 15-30% of the time both HDTVs are being used to view stored video and some of that time it is the same video being watched. So sharing video across our home network from multiple stationary sources, like my linux server, is essential. In fact I suspect there are a fair number of people who have little use for an internal HDD in their network media player. If I did have one it would have to be one that was easy to stream video too over my network and would only be used as that one more additional storage location.

My 2TB of stored video is spread across 2 PCs, 3 USB drives and 1 network media server. The current state of limHD completely prohibits my basic needs and I suspect the same is true for more people than you think. It really seems silly and not rational to limit where video files are stored on a network.

I have been using my Linkplayer2s for 2+ years, they have USB and I have never used it because why would I want to unplug a USB drive from my PC and plug it into the Linkplayer2 when I can just leave that same USB drive plugged into my PC and stream the video directly from there? Given that I already have a home network.

I can certainly see situations where just the internal medial player HDD is required....no network or you want to take the unit on a camping trip and bring along some video...but I ask again, why limit the player to that? Home networks are prolific and continue to proliferate with the switch over to high speed internet, wifi and laptops.

tingshen also wrote:

Comparing to the low cost popcorn hour, would the PQ and performance be much better in playing HD stuff on the A-100?

Please do not forget that there are numerous OTHER media players that play HD...Linktheather, AVA8000, Linkplayer, MVIX, DSM510, Ziova, Media Box, Popcorn Hour and more! No they do not all play mkv or 264 or even 1080p but they all play HD and I suspect that most of these media players play HD video probably as good as the limHD or TVIX. There has never been any objective quantitative study or data to support the notion that limHD has set the standard for the quality of HD playback. That baseless notion was started by Oldpainless68 because there was not much good to be said about the limHD...when something negative was posted his come back was that the limHD was the best HD player....he just never provided any actual data to substantiate that statement...nor has anyone else!

digitalkid2,
Your explanation of how you want network streaming is really the best I have read so far, and yes, it is within my suspicion. Thank you.
Now, are you using this setup for your commercial or personal use? I really doubt that will be typical for personal uses, cause it seems a waste to have to go thru all that to set this up. For a personal, occassional user like me, copying the video to either the internal or external USB HDD will be so much easier and cost effective. But I see your points.

Perry

Jackie,
So, would enhancement in the sildeshow be one of the goals for the future for this player? (i.e. seamless transition, cross fading, background music...?) These should be easy to implement, but probably not on Tomacro's priority. I probably purchased the wrong player in the first place cause I was hoping this player to play all but it is not.

Perry

digitalkid2,
Your explanation of how you want network streaming is really the best I have read so far, and yes, it is within my suspicion. Thank you.
Now, are you using this setup for your commercial or personal use? I really doubt that will be typical for personal uses, cause it seems a waste to have to go thru all that to set this up. For a personal, occassional user like me, copying the video to either the internal or external USB HDD will be so much easier and cost effective. But I see your points.

Perry
Actually it is strictly for my families personal use. We enjoy commercial free TV, watching movies and family video. Using the family PC I record our favorite TV shows, remove the commercials and store them until we watch and delete them. The Linkplayer2 is used daily by one or more family members. 95% of the TV watched has been recorded and had the commercials removed. We watch what we want when we want without commercials. I know for a fact that what 'we' do is not out of the norm...just visit the Beyond TV, Sage TV and GBPVR forums and you will see what I mean!

I am not sure what you mean by easier or cost effective....do you have a home network? A large number of people in the US have home networks because they have high speed internet and have multiple PCs...which is precisely my situation...I had the network and having a networked media player seemed like a good way to make use of the network. Running the CAT5 cable to my Linkplayer2 was somewhat of a challenge but it only took a few hours and cost 25$...it is a one time investment...I have been using it for over 2+ years and not had to invest any time or money since. For the convenience it was well worth it.

I agree that for a user who will use the media player infrequently an internal HDD and USB works....but for many many people that does not work. By having the capability to stream video from anywhere on a network it seems to me that the limHD would be appealing to a lot more people...it will work for you and guess what it will work for me too!

BTW we also do quite a bit of slideshow watching and IMO that is another significant negative for the limHD. A lot of times when my wife or I are cooking or cleaning we will start a slide show and pick some music to play in the background...its powerful and a great way to make use of all those digital photos we have taken.

I'm with Digitalkid, I didn't use the HDD on my LIM up until they screwed up the Linux NFS support. I have 2.5 TB of movies stored on my server would stream to the LIM over wireless N. As soon as the Linux NFS support is back I will be taking the HDD back out of it.

As for would I recommend or buy another LIM, NO! The firmware updates are extremely buggy and too few and far between. Support is non existent except for the occasional updates from Jackie. The latest update that removed NFS linux support is just one of many examples (can't even get an answer if and when this will be fixed) of bad firmware.

As for the PQ, using my 65" Samsung DLP and on a 108" projection screen the Tivix and the lim are virtually even. We did a blind test and could not see any difference (my neighbor and I). This was using MKV H-DEF content as well as SD DVD's. The LIM may have been ahead at one time for a short while with PQ but not any more. Just my .02 worth of advice...

well well well....seems we have two members back.......how's popcorn going boys?

K

digitalkid2,
Your explanation of how you want network streaming is really the best I have read so far, and yes, it is within my suspicion. Thank you.
Now, are you using this setup for your commercial or personal use? I really doubt that will be typical for personal uses, cause it seems a waste to have to go thru all that to set this up. For a personal, occassional user like me, copying the video to either the internal or external USB HDD will be so much easier and cost effective. But I see your points.

Perry

There are other users with similar setups. I have, lets see 2+2+12TB of shared stuff on my network connected to 3 HDTV's, 2 HD Tivo's, 3 PC's, 3 Tvix's, 3 HD-DVD players, 1 BD player, and a couple networked DVD players.

Copying files around is not an option for some and would be unmanageable.

well well well....seems we have two members back.......how's popcorn going boys?

K
Well if it isn't the ever present and oh so clever oldpainless68....nothing has changed and if you are referring to me, then as usual you got it wrong. I am no longer a boy and I have no vested interest in the Popcorn hour. As far as I am concerned it now occupies the spot that limHD used to; it has potential but it ain't there yet...a much better price point but sadly it is not really ready for market.

well well well....seems we have two members back.......how's popcorn going boys?

KNot sure if you are referring to me or not but, I don't own a Popcorn Hour and I stopped being a boy around thirty five years ago.

Digitalkid2,
Well, I guess I am not in the same world as you. Yes, I enjoy watching videos and makes some myself, but I don't have the luxury to take the time to do what you do. Haha... Yes, I do have a network at home, but if I only have one player, the lim. I don't see the need to turn on the main server in my basement, run to 1st/2nd floor to plug my lim into the HD, then streaming the video. How do you handle it when you want to share your video with your friends at their house? I am sure streaming does not work then. You have to copy those video to the player anyway.

qz3fwd,
Wow, you must be rich! Well, good for you. Now I see another important reason for streaming... when you have so many players, you definitely don't want to have the files resides within one. I just own one and do not plan to have another, my wife already wants to kill me over having this toy.

Thanks again, guys.

Perry

Digitalkid2,
Well, I guess I am not in the same world as you. Yes, I enjoy watching videos and makes some myself, but I don't have the luxury to take the time to do what you do. Haha... Yes, I do have a network at home, but if I only have one player, the lim. I don't see the need to turn on the main server in my basement, run to 1st/2nd floor to plug my lim into the HD, then streaming the video. How do you handle it when you want to share your video with your friends at their house? I am sure streaming does not work then. You have to copy those video to the player anyway.

qz3fwd,
Wow, you must be rich! Well, good for you. Now I see another important reason for streaming... when you have so many players, you definitely don't want to have the files resides within one. I just own one and do not plan to have another, my wife already wants to kill me over having this toy.

Thanks again, guys.

Perry
I have never had the urge or need to bring video to anyones house. We obviously live in different worlds and have very different circumstances. The real undeniable point is that there is absolutely no reason why we both can not have what we want in terms of the network...IMO it should be easy and cost very little for Tomacro to implement...if they did then they win (more customers), you win and I win!

I have two players as well and my wife would be very upset if she did not have her commericial free shows to watch...for her and I, fast forwarding is not really an option. I guess she really loves the setup because it is no longer a toy but has been integrated into TV viewing with the same ease that it takes to turn the TV on...instead of going to video1 (TV) she goes to video5 (Linkplayer2). The LP2 if is far from perfect but it never hangs or needs rebooting...it just simply consistently works. She can watch her favorite shows and movies when ever she wants...when she is done watching something she simply deletes it using the LP2 remote.

BTW I spend roughly 45secs per recorded video cutting commercials. Once the show is recorded automatic commercial detection starts and runs in the background (truly runs in low priority). Once a day or so I spend 15-45secs per video confirming the cuts and then they are batched processed. That is it....We have a busy life as well, which is why this works so well for us. We watch what we want when we want and no time is wasted sitting through or fast forwarding through commercials.

To each his own...but IMO the limHD would be a better more attractive product if it had full networking capability.

Are you by any chance trying to make the case that having full network capability would make the limHD a less attractive product?

digitalkid2,
Do you record the video in HD or SD? Either way, what player/method let you auto detect commercials and cut them? I am very new in doing such.

Perry

digitalkid2,
Do you record the video in HD or SD? Either way, what player/method let you auto detect commercials and cut them? I am very new in doing such.

Perry
For commercial detection I use comskip (freeware) and to start comskip I use Dirmon2 (freeware). To cut the commercials I use Videoredo (payware).

I record to a designated watch folder, once the recording has completed Dirmon2 starts comskip. Comskip generates a .vprj file that I later load into videoredo. This .vprj file shows where it thinks the commercials are and I make adjustments as needed. Videoredo has batch processing capability so when I have confirmed the cuts I save the updated .vprj file and put it into the batch processor. When I put the file into the batch processor I also select where I want the finished commercial free file to go.

85% of what we record is SD from cable TV service the other 15% is OTA HD. comskip will do commercial detection on both SD and HD (mpeg or ts or tp). There is one hitch with OTA HD and that is there are sometimes several different video streams in the recording and as of yet I have not found a way to automate selection of the correct stream, comskip picks the first stream and goes with that...fortunately 98% of the time that is the stream we want.

To schedule TV recordings I use Beyond TV (payware) but you could use GBPVR (freeware). I know for sure there is a lot of help to be found regarding automated commercial detection in the BTV forum and in the Sage TV (payware) forum.

digitalkid2, really appreciate so much for all your clear explanation. I am just like the similar situation as pc01, we are not so hardcore about home networking, to me as long as it can transfer file without problem, sharing the internet connection, that's good enough, that's why I'm still happily using my 11Mbps linksys router lol! And not to forget my free broadband speed is just 1Mbps....yes, it's free.....until next year Dec 31st, but I guess they will surely extend it! (FYI, I'm now residing in a tiny dot on the globe called the lion city lol!)

your way of getting rid of commercials are simply awesome!!!! Unfortunately my DVR, which comes with the free broadband service are encrypted by the cable service provider. I have yet to find a way in getting the files out. Even if I can do so, I still have to dismantle the Thmson DVB-C DVR and take out the HDD as it's a DVR+decoder for the cable service provider. Pain huh? Fortunately, besides free-over-the-air channels, all cable channels are already commercial free except the interval where they change programmes, and the 160GB HDD for the SD channels (we are yet to have HD DVR for the cable yet) are more than enough for us to handle and manage, coz all are inside the DVR. I would appreciate if anybody could help in extracting the files out. In that case I can happily record whatever I want and watch them when I really got time. Frankly speaking, that would really maximize our time management and we could achieve/enjoy so much more in life!

As for the HD player (be it Tvix or limHD), it's solely for H.264 encoded videos from the HD-DVD/Bluray. So it's pretty clear cut, if not we will end up with too many devices doing similar thing. In Singapore, the electricity is very expensive, therefore, we are not encouraged to turn on all the machines 24hr and let them idling......in fact, the most intensively used machine is the cable DVR.

I like the popcorn hour features, things like web services for youtube, sayatv etc. This actually reduce the hassle of turning on your PC and watch it over your tiny monitor. If this is available, my wife would be happily watching youtube from the TV and relaxing at the sofa. Unfortunately, the screwed up supply chain really pissed many people off.....I am wondering when exactly can the player be available in the market without problem. Crazy price indeed.....for the newer chipset compared to both the limHD200i and 4100SH.

I do not think that threads like this shall be so commercial. Perhaps all the resellers, agents, and even manufacturers shall just create their own thread and let them settle the battle there. This is a technical forums and it shall remains as what it is.....

Till now, among all HD players based upon 8623 CMOS chip, no one have exceeded Lim, and Tomacro never stop the development of the firmware functions, we believe Tomacro can provide all customers more developed and better functions.Surely Lim has brought much fun to lots of our customers. No HD player now is mature enough if you think it should satisfy all customers’ different demands. Cheers! Choose what you like, and like what you have chosen.Thank you for all your support and kind suggestions. Enjoy yourselves everyday.
Jackie

Jackie,
So, would enhancement in the sildeshow be one of the goals for the future for this player? (i.e. seamless transition, cross fading, background music...?) These should be easy to implement, but probably not on Tomacro's priority. I probably purchased the wrong player in the first place cause I was hoping this player to play all but it is not.

Perry

Thanks Perry! I send your suggestions to Tomacro. Have a nice day!

Till now, among all HD players based upon 8623 CMOS chip, no one have exceeded Lim, and Tomacro never stop the development of the firmware functions, we believe Tomacro can provide all customers more developed and better functions.Surely Lim has brought much fun to lots of our customers. No HD player now is mature enough if you think it should satisfy all customers’ different demands. Cheers! Choose what you like, and like what you have chosen.Thank you for all your support and kind suggestions. Enjoy yourselves everyday.
Jackie

Ridiculous. The Lim can't even do half the TViX or the PopCorn for that
matter in functions. All it has is raw playback power because it has nothing else inside and you know it just like we do. The only thing where it can compete is HD playback but off course, from you i'd expect nothing else than this statement.

True, for only HD playback it's not bad.

Maybe Tomacro will "never"stop development, (you know this is a lie as
eventually they have to to move on) but their development does not seem to
make the proper progress it needs, does it? Why don't you start being a bit
less biased because you are a partner of Tomacro and tell the truth instead
of this marketing mambo jambo...

We get response from partners that almost 40% returns within 7 days and
we see this confirmed here by others because the unit is far from functional
outside HD playing files and our personal experience (on testing multiple
units) is far from good not to mention how we feel about this construction
between you and Tomacro as playing the "God" of sales...

My Top 10 Cons for Tomacro
01 - Lim has issues with sound quality
02 - No FTP (like TviX and PoPCorn
03 - No Samba server like PopCorn
04 - Linux NFS broken (and for me HDMI and Component)
05 - 1 SM source onlu
06 - 1 NFS source only
07 - No brozsing during playback
08 - Lacking functions on handling files (and the ones it has take 30 seconds like FF/RW and resume play, GoTo etc...)
09 - Upgrade takes a bloody hour
10 - Terrible design (Size and looks, Quality build)

The only pro it has is mpeg2-hd and avchd support.
That about sums up what the Tomacro is capable off in an acceptable level.
On all other fronts, it fails, fails and fails again.

and what is Tomacro working on? Language support...
That will help a great deal faking to international markets it is a good player
but trust me, in Europe you will have a much harder competition to beat than
in US and Asia market and before you tell nonsense about you not getting as
many players returned, you do and most don't choose to return because of
the cost...

So far, every new cut returned less functionality than it had before...
Anyway, i'm back out of this discussion. Wasted too much time on it already
and people can make up their own mind.

Well if it isn't the ever present and oh so clever oldpainless68....nothing has changed and if you are referring to me, then as usual you got it wrong. I am no longer a boy and I have no vested interest in the Popcorn hour. As far as I am concerned it now occupies the spot that limHD used to; it has potential but it ain't there yet...a much better price point but sadly it is not really ready for market.

I wasn't being clever....just a genuine question about Popcorn hour........

K

this thread is messed up by all the sales people......

think lesser and lesser people would buy lim becoz of this....sigh.

Thanks Digitalkid2 and others.

OK, I ran into another big problem with my lim, may be it is me? I have the latest firmware Jackie installed for me with the exchanged player (see my previous posts if interested). The player works fine except one thing... No sound whatsoever with H.264 footages (MP4 or MKV files) M2T, MPG all plays fine with sound. The video plays great, smooth, just no sound whatsoever via HDMI or RCA cables. HELP!

P.S.: The kmv I was not able to play was downloaded directly from here. Mushishi_-_24Test-001.mkv . Are you guys having problem with these files?


Perry

I'm having a problem getting my Lim to connect properly to my Infocus 4805 at 720p. Although the Infocus is not a true hi-def projector it will accept a 720p signal (it does with my upscaling dvd player)
I have tried toggling through all the different resolutions but nothing brings up 720p, the infocus always shows 848x480 Is there anyway to get it to show a 720p signal. I am connecting via HDMI-DVI cable.

Ok, part of it is me, I guess. For some reasons, lim plays sound in a little lower than I can hear on pc (perhaps software issues). Therefore my H.264 files (MP4) play with sound that are so low that I can not hear it. Well, I turned up the vol on my HDTV and sound appear then. Anyway, the .mkv I downloaded from here still does not have sound with lim but plays fine with pc. Also, I notice when encoding in Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 in too high bitrate or quality, somehow Lim does not accept the file and say "file error". (Even with bitrate of 20 have problem).

Perry

Hay, I am full of questions these days. Since I am very new to the HD world, I was wondering whent the Lim plays a regular DVD in 720p or 1080p mode, is that like "upconverted"? (The concept in the US?)

Thanks for your help.
Perry

I HAVE JUST BOUGHT A TOMACRO HDD MEDIA PLAYER AND INSTALLED A 750 GB HARD DRIVE IN IT BUT CAN'T GET IT TO PLAY YET. IT DIDN'T COME WITH A MANUAL AND BECAUSE I BOUGHT IT OFF EBAY THE SELLER SIMPLY FOBS ME OFF. I DID GET A COPY OF MANUAL FROM THE TOMACRO SITE [url]WWW.TOMACRO.COM/ENGLISH/DOWNLOAD. (NOT ALLOWED TO POST URL YET AS I AM NEW) (AT BOTTOM) BUT IT DOESN'T HELP WITH MY PROBLEM. THE PLAYER DOESN'T SEEM TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE HARD DRIVE. CAN ANYONE HELP ME? (HTM)

Did you format the hard drive before you installed it?

Can someone remind me of the videofile info program you all use? this thread is too long to search

callohan: format hdd ntfs before inserting

Can someone remind me of the videofile info program you all use? this thread is too long to searchI use MediaInfo.
http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en

Thanks Digitalkid2 and others.

OK, I ran into another big problem with my lim, may be it is me? I have the latest firmware Jackie installed for me with the exchanged player (see my previous posts if interested). The player works fine except one thing... No sound whatsoever with H.264 footages (MP4 or MKV files) M2T, MPG all plays fine with sound. The video plays great, smooth, just no sound whatsoever via HDMI or RCA cables. HELP!

P.S.: The kmv I was not able to play was downloaded directly from here. Mushishi_-_24Test-001.mkv . Are you guys having problem with these files?


Perry

Hello! Perry!Chosen DPCM to test under the Audio option , perhaps there will be voice. The reason is that audio formats are different.

I use MediaInfo.
http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en

this is actually one of the useful info available from tomacro webby.

i thought limHD200i is quite strong in HD, but how come got so many unstable problem about the audio output?

Would tvix 4100SH giving this kind of funny unstable problem?

Jackie,
I did try DPCM but no luck. Here is the file I downloaded that has no audio and also those I made on my own via AutoMKV that video plays fine, but no audio.

Perry

Hi Jackie.

Also, could someone check on this Ghost_in_the_Shell_[720p,HDTV,x264,AAC_5.1].aac file. Address is stated below. As far as know, Lim should be playing .aac files, and it doesnt. I tried reencoding it to .AC3, and it works fine, but i am very gutted with a Video delay i get after remuxing the file.

Here is an FTP:


Thanks.

I just got the unit yesterday have a few questions

1. Does it have problems with Fat32 formatted USb drives ? I have tried 2 different drives and it hangs on both. NTFS seem ok.

2. Anybody able to consistently view jpegs? My unit will show about 1 in 15 pictures.

Its seem this thing crashes a lot.

Hi Jackie.
To start with, I AM STILL WAITING FOR THE INFO ON WHEN MY SECOND REMOTE WILL BE SENT???????:mad:
Second, what is the situation with the DTS audio playback, which is lacking in playing .MKV files. I am really tired of reencoding every single MKV with DTS (Seems like most of them)into something Lim does actuall play??? Is this being addressed in the new firmware???
Should we all be expecting a Xmass update???
Thanks

P.S. I am really getting impatient about the remote control, as Lim is in very limited operatability. I am still to be leaving a feedback on ebay, And this will definitely be the biggest score catcher. You simply can not imagine how annoyed I am. ............:mad:

callohan: format hdd ntfs before inserting
THANKS LUDMAN . I USE AN APPLE MAC I AM STARTING UP THE OLD PC AND HOPEFULLY FORMATTING WITH THAT IN NTFS WILL DO THE TRICK CHEERS.

Yeah, Lim support sucks for anything not Windows.

Intel OsX you can run Windows in Parallels to format.

I changed my Lim to ext2 so I could format drive after telnetting to lim and use FTP instead of connecting USB.

Hi Jackie.
To start with, I AM STILL WAITING FOR THE INFO ON WHEN MY SECOND REMOTE WILL BE SENT???????:mad:
Second, what is the situation with the DTS audio playback, which is lacking in playing .MKV files. I am really tired of reencoding every single MKV with DTS (Seems like most of them)into something Lim does actuall play??? Is this being addressed in the new firmware???
Should we all be expecting a Xmass update???
Thanks

P.S. I am really getting impatient about the remote control, as Lim is in very limited operatability. I am still to be leaving a feedback on ebay, And this will definitely be the biggest score catcher. You simply can not imagine how annoyed I am. ............:mad:

What issues are you having with DTS MKV files?....all mine work (but some have the audio drop issue now and again)....for DTS you need to have the Lim connected to an A/V amp that supports DTS via optical (all AV amps!)....the Lim will not downconvert DTS to HDMI or phono audio.

K

Yeah, Lim support sucks for anything not Windows.

Intel OsX you can run Windows in Parallels to format.

I changed my Lim to ext2 so I could format drive after telnetting to lim and use FTP instead of connecting USB.

Lindman, how do you do that?, I cannot telnet to it, does it support ext3 aswell, or only ext2?

He made custom firmware. Look at http://www.lundman.net/wiki/index.php/LimHD200i
I'm running it too.

OK...new f/w out

http://www.limhd-sky.cn/Archive/Firmware/071026/update.rar

Looks like the AC3 audio drop in MKV's has been fixed....:):):):):):)

K
Woot! Going to give a try now!


OK. Finally had a chance to post my thoughts on the latest firmware (and play forum catch-up after a very long time).

Audio sync issues seems to be fixed in MKV files but WMV is still missing WMA audio support. Some former L1@main codec of high bitrate seem to be working now much better. Of course many items are still broke.

Now here is my comments on the catch-up threads..

Hello! everyone!We will increase document management capabilities next firmware, so we do not have to connect to the computer in order to delete, copy files in the future. Additionally there will be two new firmware version, a Chinese version and an foreign language version, the Chinese version supports both Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese and will add the font size selection function, in foreign languages version we will add to more language support, such as French, Rabbinic, and so on. Let us look forward to tomacro better and more humane software support functions. Come on! :)

Forking the firmware is a BAD idea and should be discouraged if at all possible.

Hey guys, I bought 3 units on Ebay (user id "chrisnia").
...
P.S. Jackie at GenDVD is nice to deal with and respoonsive to emails.


and

Seems like a good deal, count me in !!!

Your timing is impeccable!


Now that the new firmware is out, is this list still current?


Jackie/Fan...updated Lim User's Requirements Log........in order of priority...
1 HDMI selection fixed - ASAP in progress, current beta
2 720p/1080p MKV occasional sound drop fixed (I'm still sure this is due to the reading of the A/V timecode tables) in progress, current beta
3 WMV-HD with WMA 5.1 as 5.1 audio when digital encoded selected - added back in in progress, current beta
3.1 Select Multiple audio tracks in an AVI container
3.2 DVD ISO/IFO - Use globally-set aspect ratio (4x3 or 16x9) when starting DVD playback
4 Add VC-1 as a supported codec in an MKV container
5 Deinterlace option
6 24hz option added (video mode for Hi-Def material) in progress, current beta
7 DVD ISO/IFO enhancements.

A) Video_TS folder – where a Video_TS folder contains the video_ts IFO file, the Lim should show the folder as a movie icon and when the user press’s play, the Lim should read the IFO file and start playing the movie. If the user press’s enter, then it should show the files.
B) ISO files at root level should have the movie icon, folders that contain ISO files, should have a folder icon.
C) Enable Subtitle and Audio from remote.
D) Replace function button with Menu button for returning to DVD menu when playing DVD ISO/IFO.
E) Use Time button on remote to show elapsed/remaining time.
8 Password protection, when accessing certain directories and for setup menu
9 Hide unconfigured or non-present devices in the main menu (no USB drives present -> don't show USB menu, NFS server not pingable -> don't show NFS etc.)
10 FTP support (copy, paste & delete)
11 Multiple NFS mounts
12 NAS support
13 EXT2/3 for Mac users
14 Evo container support (with multiple audio tracks)
15 Ability to use .m3u playlists
16 HD audio passthrough
17 FLAC support as an audio format and support for an audio track in MKV's
18 Video save points/resume
19 SRT support/font size etc
20 Better fast forward and rewind navigation wherever it's technically possible

Can someone remind me of the videofile info program you all use? this thread is too long to search

Hello lundman, please download free version Mediainfo program from our website: http://www.gendvd.com/MediaInfo.rar
If you have any questions about how to use it, please email us.

Hi Jackie.
To start with, I AM STILL WAITING FOR THE INFO ON WHEN MY SECOND REMOTE WILL BE SENT???????:mad:
Second, what is the situation with the DTS audio playback, which is lacking in playing .MKV files. I am really tired of reencoding every single MKV with DTS (Seems like most of them)into something Lim does actuall play??? Is this being addressed in the new firmware???
Should we all be expecting a Xmass update???
Thanks

P.S. I am really getting impatient about the remote control, as Lim is in very limited operatability. I am still to be leaving a feedback on ebay, And this will definitely be the biggest score catcher. You simply can not imagine how annoyed I am. ............:mad:





Hello! Svyatko! We really understand your anxiety. We apologize for the Remote control.Last time,we tell Fan about your remote control, and she promised to email you a new one. Have you emailed to Fan again? Ok,we will contact with Fan again. We are really very sorry for this.But Svyatko, would you mind tell us more detail of the remote control? I mean we just want to make sure whether there are some problems of your Lim itself instead of Remote control. If that is the problems of the machine itself, we would like to carry out our the Three months free exchange promise. For the second remote, when did it stop working,the time you get it or after you use it for some time. If the remote can not work at the beginning, maybe that is the problem of the remote receive part of the Lim. Then to ship a new remote control still can not solve the problems.And would you please tell us the two remote control can not work or just insensitive? We really appreciate your detailed answer.
For the MKV packed up dts audio format, we have reflect feed back to Tomacro engineers. Hopefully, they can be solved in th enext firmware.
Thank you for all your kind understanding and patient waiting.Have a nice day!
Jackie

Hello lundman, please download free version Mediainfo program from our website: http://www.gendvd.com/MediaInfo.rar
If you have any questions about how to use it, please email us.

I did just that, found the program name, and went to get the latest version.

Comes with sources too, but be quite a porting job.

Hello! Svyatko! We really understand your anxiety. We apologize for the Remote control.Last time,we tell Fan about your remote control, and she promised to email you a new one. Have you emailed to Fan again? Ok,we will contact with Fan again. We are really very sorry for this.But Svyatko, would you mind tell us more detail of the remote control? I mean we just want to make sure whether there are some problems of your Lim itself instead of Remote control. If that is the problems of the machine itself, we would like to carry out our the Three months free exchange promise. For the second remote, when did it stop working,the time you get it or after you use it for some time. If the remote can not work at the beginning, maybe that is the problem of the remote receive part of the Lim. Then to ship a new remote control still can not solve the problems.And would you please tell us the two remote control can not work or just insensitive? We really appreciate your detailed answer.
For the MKV packed up dts audio format, we have reflect feed back to Tomacro engineers. Hopefully, they can be solved in th enext firmware.
Thank you for all your kind understanding and patient waiting.Have a nice day!
Jackie

HI Jackie,
The second remote control i have received, worked for a week, then all of a sudden stopped. I remember using it to start the movie, select subtitles, change the subtitle delay. After finishing watching the movie, i already couldnt switch the lim off using a remote. It has just stopped working. I have checked batteries, changed batteries, tried pointing the remote at lim at 100 different angles, but It simply died on me. Now, i am not sure, what other option do i have to test it on anything else, so as to me, It's not usable. It worked, and now it's not.
Hope that explains something.

Thanks
Svyatko.

What issues are you having with DTS MKV files?....all mine work (but some have the audio drop issue now and again)....for DTS you need to have the Lim connected to an A/V amp that supports DTS via optical (all AV amps!)....the Lim will not downconvert DTS to HDMI or phono audio.

K

Damn....
I havent got an A/V and i guess i will not be buying one any time soon....
Is there a workaround, or smth, all i have is Lim, Which already cost me a fortune because of the import tax :mad: and a 40" LCD i connect to using HDMI

What about Optical ???
I have a very good source of HD mkvs, but most of them come with DTS audio, which dont play as you have mentioned over HDMI.

Whats the story with DD5.1 audio, coz that plays ok.

Thanks.

Got my lim this morning and hooked up to my Onkyo 705 via HDMI. Turned it all on and hit the play movie button. Accessed my internal HD and started to play Cars.

Excellent - then I decided to upgrade from the installed firmware (1.60Beta3-070914) to the latest (1.60-071026). Now I can play movies from an external HD no problem but when I try to play a movie from the internal HD - it hangs.

Both HD’s are (at the moment) formatted in FAT32.

Has anyone else experienced this problem?

Popcorn is out for orders liao....and some of my friends already got it arghhhh......

If it doesn't hang too much, I may drop this already sigh.....

Got my lim this morning and hooked up to my Onkyo 705 via HDMI. Turned it all on and hit the play movie button. Accessed my internal HD and started to play Cars.

Excellent - then I decided to upgrade from the installed firmware (1.60Beta3-070914) to the latest (1.60-071026). Now I can play movies from an external HD no problem but when I try to play a movie from the internal HD - it hangs.

Both HD’s are (at the moment) formatted in FAT32.

Has anyone else experienced this problem?

We suggest you change the had drive format into ntfs format, because most of HD movie files are more than 4gb, but fat32 can not support them.

We suggest you change the had drive format into ntfs format, because most of HD movie files are more than 4gb, but fat32 can not support them.

Thanks for your fast reply Jackie but most of my files (at the moment) are .avi and are less than 2Gb!

Please consider that they worked prior to the firmware update.

Jackie,
Any news on the new firmware? BTW, my rewind (<<) button does not seem to do anything (in any file formats). FF (>>) works in MPEG2 (DVD) as it supposed to but when playing HD files (.m2t) like I posted before, 8x seems to FF faster than 16x than 32x!??

Perry

Damn....
I havent got an A/V and i guess i will not be buying one any time soon....
Is there a workaround, or smth, all i have is Lim, Which already cost me a fortune because of the import tax :mad: and a 40" LCD i connect to using HDMI

What about Optical ???
I have a very good source of HD mkvs, but most of them come with DTS audio, which dont play as you have mentioned over HDMI.

Whats the story with DD5.1 audio, coz that plays ok.

Thanks.

The only work around if you dont have a DTS AV amp is MKv2ts...this will take a DTS MKV and produce an AC3 TS...it does not reencode the video file, so no picture quality loss....

K

Jackie,
Any news on the new firmware? BTW, my rewind (<<) button does not seem to do anything (in any file formats). FF (>>) works in MPEG2 (DVD) as it supposed to but when playing HD files (.m2t) like I posted before, 8x seems to FF faster than 16x than 32x!??

Perry

I am afraid the new firmware update still need aome time, however, it is not very good to use forward or backward to operate high-definition movie playback, because they could easily generate crashed(especially during high-bit-rate movies play ).We all use the “time key”(press the time key on the remote to choose time point you need.So hope the new firmware can solve this problem in the future.

Thanks for your fast reply Jackie but most of my files (at the moment) are .avi and are less than 2Gb!

Please consider that they worked prior to the firmware update.

no problem.

I am afraid the new firmware update still need aome time.....

:rolleyes:I got a slight feeling of Deja Vu.....

I am afraid the new firmware update still need aome time

What a suprise! :rolleyes:

no problem.

I actually worked out the problem. If a movie file was within a folder it would not play. But if remove to root level no problems at all.

oldpainless68, if you still have the inside track what does the next firmware get us? Were you able to review the ongoing list (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11762350#post11762350)a few threads back? Does it still apply? thx.

oldpainless68, if you still have the inside track what does the next firmware get us? Were you able to review the ongoing list (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11762350#post11762350)a few threads back? Does it still apply? thx.

I've not heard anything yet.....

K

I actually worked out the problem. If a movie file was within a folder it would not play. But if remove to root level no problems at all.

We have never met this kind of problem.Could you tell us what kind of firmware are you using? What type of files do you save
in the folder? So that we can have a test of this type. Thanks.

We have never met this kind of problem.Could you tell us what kind of firmware are you using? What type of files do you save
in the folder? So that we can have a test of this type. Thanks.


The tribulations continued with single movies at root level not working. After much hair pulling I decided to reinstall the latest firmware. Lo and behold everything now works as it should do. Must have been a bad install in the first place.

The files are all .avi and the firmware is 1.60-071026.

We have never met this kind of problem.Could you tell us what kind of firmware are you using? What type of files do you save
in the folder? So that we can have a test of this type. Thanks.

Hi Jackie,

After all that time I have finally got the 2d replacement remote control. IT DOES WORK at the time of me writing this message, and I really hope it will do so. The Volume Up button does not always respond, but i guess i can live with that.

Cheers

Svyatko

Hi Jackie,

After all that time I have finally got the 2d replacement remote control. IT DOES WORK at the time of me writing this message, and I really hope it will do so. The Volume Up button does not always respond, but i guess i can live with that.

Cheers

Svyatko

Cheers!

After lern of all keys in my Logitech Harmony 895 remote control, the Harmony works better then the original RC...

Hi,

I am on the market for a media player, are the people that have the lim happy?

are all of your mkv files working? Also, if you have 720p videos, how do they look on a 1080p tv?

i really appreciate your time

Hi,

I am on the market for a media player, are the people that have the lim happy?

are all of your mkv files working? Also, if you have 720p videos, how do they look on a 1080p tv?

i really appreciate your time
The answer is sitting here in this post...I know it is long but you really should take some time and read through it. I do not own a limHD but I have followed this thread from the beginning and IMO I would never purchase one nor recommend that anyone purchase one. Lots of issues, many long standing with little hope of them being fixed. The few soles in this thread that seem happy are either plants or are desperate for a player and have nothing else to compare their experience to or defend it because they spent $500+ on something so disappointing.

Guys, could someone test this sample clip for me,its such a beautiful movie, and its so very blocky on my Lim. Its definitely not the source file, as i can play it perfectly on my PC.

Those are specs of the file:

Video:
Codec: x264
Bitrate: ~11-12 Mbit/s (peaks at ~40Mbit)
Resolution: 1920x1080
Framerate: 23.976fps
Length: ~50-53 mins
Audio:
Codec: AC3
Bitrate: 448 kbit/s
Channels: 5.1
Subtitles:
English
Source:
HDDVD


http://rapidshare.com/files/73767435/Planet.Earth.01_sample-001.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/73769497/Planet.Earth.01_sample-001.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/73771642/Planet.Earth.01_sample-001.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/73772149/Planet.Earth.01_sample-001.part4.rar


Any ideas appreciated...

Thanks.

Hi Jackie,

After all that time I have finally got the 2d replacement remote control. IT DOES WORK at the time of me writing this message, and I really hope it will do so. The Volume Up button does not always respond, but i guess i can live with that.

Cheers

Svyatko

Additionally, the players control volume through the AV amplifier, lim has no audio decoder processing functions, only have very simple analog stereo processing. Therefore, we suggested that you use fibre or coaxial cable to connect with the AV amplifier.Then you can adjust the volume through the amplifier.

Guys, could someone test this sample clip for me,its such a beautiful movie, and its so very blocky on my Lim. Its definitely not the source file, as i can play it perfectly on my PC.

Those are specs of the file:




Any ideas appreciated...

Thanks.

We will have a try

Additionally, the players control volume through the AV amplifier, lim has no audio decoder processing functions, only have very simple analog stereo processing. Therefore, we suggested that you use fibre or coaxial cable to connect with the AV amplifier.Then you can adjust the volume through the amplifier.

Thanks you very much for that answer, i guess its pretty obvious though:rolleyes: and that is not a solution....

Look, if putting the volume down works and Up doesnt, do you think using fibre or optical will help... dohhh

I know you are trying to help, but saying silly things just doesnt....

The answer is sitting here in this post...I know it is long but you really should take some time and read through it. I do not own a limHD but I have followed this thread from the beginning and IMO I would never purchase one nor recommend that anyone purchase one. Lots of issues, many long standing with little hope of them being fixed. The few soles in this thread that seem happy are either plants or are desperate for a player and have nothing else to compare their experience to or defend it because they spent $500+ on something so disappointing.

TRUE...

WHEN SET UP WITH A HARD DRIVE FORMATTED IN FAT 32 IS VERY LIMITED. NTFS FORMAT WORKS WELL . BUT AS I HAVE ONLY GOT AN APPLE IMAC WHICH ONLY WRITES TO FAT 32 THE TAMACRO IS A SIMPLY NOT COMPATIBLE RUNNING WINDOWS ON MAC TO FACILITATE JUST CREATES MORE EXSPENSE AND TIME. TOMACRO IS DEFINATELY UNFRIENDLY TO OSX OPERATING SYSTEMS AND FRANKLY INCOMPATIBLE . :mad:

The answer is sitting here in this post...I know it is long but you really should take some time and read through it. I do not own a limHD but I have followed this thread from the beginning and IMO I would never purchase one nor recommend that anyone purchase one. Lots of issues, many long standing with little hope of them being fixed. The few soles in this thread that seem happy are either plants or are desperate for a player and have nothing else to compare their experience to or defend it because they spent $500+ on something so disappointing.
I appreciate your honestly and that is what I gathered from this thread.

I am also gathering that there is currently no good solution for network media streaming a .mkv file.

I would also be interested in Popcorn but that too has its issues. If anyone has any other ssuggestions, i would appreciate them.

thanks

Hi,

I am on the market for a media player, are the people that have the lim happy?

are all of your mkv files working? Also, if you have 720p videos, how do they look on a 1080p tv?

i really appreciate your time

1080p TV is downward compatible. That is to say 720p video images can be fully played in 1080p television. At the moment, all MKV files can be played. And we have three-month free exchange promise if the Lim has quality problems.You can directly refer and order on our website www.gendvd.com
Till now, among all HD players based upon 8623 CMOS chip, no one have exceeded Lim although it still can not satisfy everyone's different demands, and Tomacro never stop the development of the firmware functions. The new firmware is coming. Surely Lim will bring you lots of fun.Have a great day!

Thanks you very much for that answer, i guess its pretty obvious though:rolleyes: and that is not a solution....

Look, if putting the volume down works and Up doesnt, do you think using fibre or optical will help... dohhh

I know you are trying to help, but saying silly things just doesnt....

Surely the optical can do some help, and the adjustment of volume need to use the remote control of AV amplifier instead of the remote control of tomacro player.

WHEN SET UP WITH A HARD DRIVE FORMATTED IN FAT 32 IS VERY LIMITED. NTFS FORMAT WORKS WELL . BUT AS I HAVE ONLY GOT AN APPLE IMAC WHICH ONLY WRITES TO FAT 32 THE TAMACRO IS A SIMPLY NOT COMPATIBLE RUNNING WINDOWS ON MAC TO FACILITATE JUST CREATES MORE EXSPENSE AND TIME. TOMACRO IS DEFINATELY UNFRIENDLY TO OSX OPERATING SYSTEMS AND FRANKLY INCOMPATIBLE . :mad:

Now this is indeed so, lim on ntfs support is very good, but the fat32 support is unsatisfactory.We do not recommend customers use fat format. Because most HD file size are more than 4.3 gb, and fat format can not support single file with size over 4.3 gb.

I appreciate your honestly and that is what I gathered from this thread.

I am also gathering that there is currently no good solution for network media streaming a .mkv file.

I would also be interested in Popcorn but that too has its issues. If anyone has any other ssuggestions, i would appreciate them.

thanks
Just be patient....I think there will be more choices within the next 6-9months but I would still stay away from the limHD. BTW their claim to play best HD is completely baseless, no data, no comparisons, nothing...they have nothing to support that notion other than baseless claims made by the main poster in this thread....oldpainless68.

The sad truth is that there are no perfect players out there but some are a lot further off the mark than others and the limHD is the worst of the bunch.

lim on ntfs support is very good NFS support on the LIM is not very good. The LIM does not support streaming .MKV on NFS over Linux. The LIM did support Linux at one time but was broken during a firmware change. No date has been specified when this will be fixed. So - asking again. When will the Linux NFS support be fixed?

I really hope next firmware will support more audio codex.

I agree with Quatro & svyatko. So Jackie, how much longer do we have to wait for the firmware? It has been over a month now, it seems some intermediate update can be out while others are being worked on!? I am mostly frustrated with the pitty things, like >>, <<, ++/-- (vol), time delays in viewing of jpg files (1-2s browsing between file)... The solution should not be, "use another device to fix what any player should be able to do.) Jackie, what you are telling us is, for a $500+ device, we should not expect lim to be able to control Fastforward, rewind, volume up and down? Able to view HD (1080p) files smoothly and not able to play jpg files smoothly?

Perry


Perry

It seems I'm not the only one who's tired of waiting..

I'm also tired of waiting, but I'm keeping my lim because it's the only player that plays 1080p mkv flawlessly and handles srt subtitles.

I'll probably sell it when the popcorn problems will be solved or when another player will be out.

All I want is 1080p mkv + srt :)

Hey, why don't they go open-source, at Tomacro ?
Improvements would go faster, they would spend less on it and they could sell thousands !
I doubt Tomacro are ready for the effort to make an "apple" quality user interface, it could be a good alternative...
(Still waiting for a stable firmware for many things, like everybody)

Hey, why don't they go open-source, at Tomacro ?
Improvements would go faster, they would spend less on it and they could sell thousands !
I doubt Tomacro are ready for the effort to make an "apple" quality user interface, it could be a good alternative...
(Still waiting for a stable firmware for many things, like everybody)
Hey...why didn't Tomacro make and sell a player that works! Why should the puplic at large do the work for them? Tomacro should not be in business, period. They are not a charity case...they are not doing something to help humanity....or is it that you want the puplic to help you with a bad purchasing decision?

f/w is coming...

K

See cut 071130 http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=916366&page=8

The cut does not seem to install. I checked upgrade boot first, waited and waited, nothing happen. I then turn it off, hoping, perhaps it is done. Then, do upgrade app, it shows the bars but no progress, flashed within 1s and then, gone. I am hesistate to go on.

Perry

OK, I re read the instructions, it looks a little different from the former process. Sorry. I will try again. Perry

dont bother the file is corrupted. why dont Tomacro bother throw out the new firmware out when they finish it.. lazy bast......

Ok? i first tried the instructions.. that did not work. and then i tried change the order.. tell me if you manage it please !

Quatro, It is working, not quite done yet. But, follow the instruction. Upgrade Bak first, then upgrade App and do not need to upgrade boot. Iam almost done.

Perry

Ok. when i press Bak App it says whait for 10m ans nothing happens. have been. waiting for for over 20min... did you got a screen when you pressed Bak App, anything happend?

Ok. "wait 10 mins" dont go away now afther several reboots. i cross my fingers!:rolleyes:

STOP!!! I crashed!!! Perry

It crashed my system, now not able to boot. HELP!!!! How do you go back to the previous firmware, I thought there is a way? The machine won't boot up. It stays at the power sign. Nothing happen, no video or USB recognized. Anyone Please help.

PErry

LOL u kidding? im at the ersing/writing part now :confused:

I am dead serious!

Perry

damn i cant cancel it now. the old firmware is most likely erased.. i got about 30 min. of the writing left....

I think I figured out how to go back, if needed. Good luck to you. If yours failed like mine, according to the instructions previously, you hold down the OK button on the limHD, until all the lights comes on, then, release it. Let it sits there for 40 min, it should go back to a working firmware? (I hope.)

Perry

I am not sure if it goes back to the previous firmware or to the 070710 firmware.

Perry

OK, that did not work. I think what I need to perhaps is copy the old firmwares into the update directory and do the above to go back? I will try that.

Perry

Well Congrats Tomacro. The new F/W worked for 5MIN! then chrash.

I tried playing a mkv file and rewinding. it looked ok.then play.but when i pressed the Stop button on the remote everything freezed. everything stalls. (this has actually happend every since i bougth my lim. not all the way but sometimes.)

This time i actually managed to get back to the meny. but everything i did had a 10 secons relay. really slow.So i restarted the lim.

AND now im where Perry was/is. No screen at all. my lim shows 480i and some symboles. (it whent back to 480i from 1080p also)

Maybe i can sell some parts in the lim to someone. i dont think i can sell the remote control thow.. some buttons are spelled wrong! LOL

Perry! are you using hdmi or dvi cable? i changed to R/G/B cables and now i got screen. this way you can install the old 1.60-071026 version like normal.

(when i change to hdmi in setup my screen disappear again)

T

So the settings problem isn't fixed yet.... :( I don't think this version was meant for release to the public.

It sure would be good to know whether the limHD is flaky because of software bugs or because of hardware problems (overheating, poor board layout, sensitivity to noise etc.) If it's hardware, we're all wasting our time (Tomacro's software engineer(s) included).

I learned today that Tomacro will announce new products at the end of this month. That doesn't bode well for getting the limHD functional before they move on (and could explain the slow progress on limHD fixes).

No, mine won't boot up at all. I think I have to somehow get the old firmware to the HD and then do what I post earlier. Anyone have done this before?

Perry

Quadro, your description of using "hdmi or dvi cable" are normal. It does that because it does not intelligently switch the signals, but mine is just plan not able to boot up. So, I have removed my HDD, unplug my PC HDD and copied the old 1.60-071026 over to the update directory, and now, waiting for it to remake the firmware, I guess. I pray it works this time, or I am totally lost.

Perry

At last! I was able to reverse back to the old firmware! I will not attempt to install another beta again! Boy, did I learn a lesson.

Perry

DON"T PANIC!!!
I did the firmware upgrade
First update boot
THen update app
Everything went ok, although it seemed to take hours.

After a quick check:
NFS is back and working again.
Subtitle size is selectable.

So my advice:
DO THE UPGRADE!

DON"T PANIC!!!
I did the firmware upgrade
First update boot
THen update app
Everything went ok, although it seemed to take hours.

After a quick check:
NFS is back and working again.
Subtitle size is selectable.

So my advice:
DO THE UPGRADE!

So everything works for you now? did the step with "Bak App" cause all my trouble? the 5min that worked and afther when i was using R/G/B cables. the files text were with french letters even i selected english. and were the "back" word in file dir were only "..." The Iso files did not show up.. this is additional to the frezing part.. im back to ver. 071026 now until im sure.:rolleyes:

I join you Mark Fontana, to much going zrong to be just errors...

This new updates (publicly released or not) shows once more it does not address much after 1.5 months almost again beside fixing things they broken in the first place... I also happen to know the sales are not going as good as expected (about 3.000 units in 6 months)...

I'm curious how big the next product will be or rather... "how small"...

Mophun,
But according to the instruction on the web site where this firmware is downloaded, it says, update BAK first, then App and No need to update Boot (because it is the same as former). Well, I am not sure if I want to take that chance to update.

Perry

BTW, just to clarify, what does FF optimized means in this update? How about rewind function, was it fixed?

Perry

Mophun,
But according to the instruction on the web site where this firmware is downloaded, it says, update BAK first, then App and No need to update Boot (because it is the same as former). Well, I am not sure if I want to take that chance to update.

Perry

Well, to be honest, I didn't read the instructions.
The last two firmwares only needed to update the App.
There's were the broken NFS ' bit' got broken, and is now fixed. That's the main reason for me to update.

BTW, just to clarify, what does FF optimized means in this update? How about rewind function, was it fixed?

Perry

Nope, rewind was not fixed.
FF works.

Nope, rewind was not fixed.
FF works.

What about the .iso files, have you checked if it recognize the file?
and what about the text ?? thanks

FF works now too. so I am confused about what they mean by FF optimized, and rewinds still does not work!

Perry

Ok, what is the problem, I don't seem to be able to get 1 mkv to play with sound. Is there some mkv that you think plays ok with your lim that you can cut a segment or so out for me to test? Other files play fine.

Perry

Ok, what is the problem, I don't seem to be able to get 1 mkv to play with sound. Is there some mkv that you think plays ok with your lim that you can cut a segment or so out for me to test? Other files play fine.

Perry

Well i have some mkv files who dont have sound.
its with DTS Sound! AC3 works fine.

General #0
Complete name : H:\HD-Movies\xxxxxxxxxxx.mkv
Format : Mk
File size : 6.56 GiB
PlayTime : 30mn
Bit rate : 7685 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2007-12-01 23:06:21
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.1.0 ('Another Place To Fall') built on Aug 19 2007 13:40:07
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-4 AVC
Codec/Info : MPEG4 ISO advanced profile
PlayTime : 2h 2mn
Width : 1280 pixels
Height : 544 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 2.35
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Language : English

Audio #0
Codec : DTS
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz



T

Both of the mkv I have play with sounds on pc, not on the lim. The media info shows one being 48KHz A_AAC format, 2 channels 1 audio stream and the other being 48KHz Vorbis 2 Channels, 1 audio stream.

Perry

Hello guys,

Anymore feedback on this firm? Is it stable? Is there any function broken?

Hello guys,

Anymore feedback on this firm? Is it stable? Is there any function broken?

Well im back to the old F/W now. but the fewe minutes i had the new beta i discovered:

-support for 1080p with 24 frames
-did NOT recognize iso files
-Subtitle synch
-the english text had french letters
-upgrade to former verson took about 10 minustes

Anyone can confirm this?

Ok, I'll try the upgrade this evening :)

well....if people will post private beta's without any notes.......

anyway, as it's out....here are the notes for the PRIVATE cut....

New firmware major increase:
Upgrade Optimization (within 10min)
Switching audio tracks
Subtitles Synchronization
The bug of NFS network
French subtitles
Fast forward
In addition, during the process of upgrading, please do not update ¡°boot¡±, you firstly BAK then APP
After this update, the subsequent firmware update only need 10 minutes.
This test version temporarily removed the DVD navigation function


Remember folks....this is a private test version...if it forks your player...your on your own....so use with caution.

Jackie - as you know, I am always willing to test beta's - however, on this occassion, I have not tested this one becuse it has gone public - I look forward to testing the next private beta.....

K

PLease post any firmware PRIVATE or not.

People can make their own decision wether they want to take the risk or not!

I really appreciate the posting of this beta firmware, because I really needed the fix for NFS, and am willing to take the risk.

So anyone receiving beta firmwares: Please post them!

ps. Lundman thanks for posting your improved version of this firmware on your wiki.

Jackie - as you know, I am always willing to test beta's - however, on this occassion, I have not tested this one becuse it has gone public - I look forward to testing the next private beta.....

So basically, you refuse to test unless you get to do it exclusively? Why?

So basically, you refuse to test unless you get to do it exclusively? Why?


I'm sorry if that is the way what I said reads....the whole point with private beta testing is that there will be bugs....some of them could be harmful. So, once a private beta has gone public...whatever feedback I may have had is almost redundent.

I do understand that owners of the Lim are looking for progress in the form of new updates. My point was not eliteist, more of a common sense approach in as far as the firmware should (as far as possible?) be bug free....beta's by their very nature are not...and are not covered by any warranty if it folks your unit.

On your point of being exclusive...there are one or two Lim owners on here that know that is not the case....

Anyways....lets look forward to the next offical cut...

K

Temp removal of "DVD navigation function" Why? So, what does FF optimized mean, anyone? I have gone back to the old version because it caused the crash so bad that I have no choice.

Perry

PLease post any firmware PRIVATE or not.

ps. Lundman thanks for posting your improved version of this firmware on your wiki.

Did it work? I've not had time to try it yet.

I don the update and it does not fork the player if done right as described. I do hat one
must update few seperate sections though and the time it takes. Its great this has
been enhanced to take 10 minutes in the future. It would be better if only 1 file
would be needed to update the player as well for comvenience.

I hoped my issues would be resolved though. I have compnent again but still no HDMI...
Deffinately something cause by fw and I assume it might be relted to having used the
wrong order of update in the past maybe?

Not eager to find out... Picking up another Tomacro unit tomorrow to see how that one would work with my equipment.

I have just upgraded to the latest firmware, but NFS still doesn't work for me.
It just hangs the unit whenever I try to play a file, I can browse OK, but not play.

well....if people will post private beta's without any notes.......

anyway, as it's out....here are the notes for the PRIVATE cut....

New firmware major increase:
Upgrade Optimization (within 10min)
Switching audio tracks
Subtitles Synchronization
The bug of NFS network
French subtitles
Fast forward
In addition, during the process of upgrading, please do not update ¡°boot¡±, you firstly BAK then APP
After this update, the subsequent firmware update only need 10 minutes.
This test version temporarily removed the DVD navigation function


Remember folks....this is a private test version...if it forks your player...your on your own....so use with caution.

Jackie - as you know, I am always willing to test beta's - however, on this occassion, I have not tested this one becuse it has gone public - I look forward to testing the next private beta.....

K


Hi Kevin! We promise to give you the next cut at the first hand.Thanks!
Jackie

I have just upgraded to the latest firmware, but NFS still doesn't work for me.
It just hangs the unit whenever I try to play a file, I can browse OK, but not play.

It works fine for me.
Are you sure the upgrade went well?

So, Jackie, when is the official firmware coming out? The beta test has been out for a few days now... I could not get it to work and don't want to mess around with it too much right now. But, will definitely update when the official one is released.

Perry

So, Jackie, when is the official firmware coming out? The beta test has been out for a few days now... I could not get it to work and don't want to mess around with it too much right now. But, will definitely update when the official one is released.

Perry

Don't get your hopes up.
If this beta is any indicator of the progress they're making (in two months!!!), we're screwed.

Don't get your hopes up.
If this beta is any indicator of the progress they're making (in two months!!!), we're screwed.

I understand where you are comming from....but don't be too quick on that one......I suggest folks watch this space........not talking about the next cut....but prehaps the approach to F/W dev?

K

I understand where you are comming from....but don't be too quick on that one......I suggest folks watch this space........not talking about the next cut....but prehaps the approach to F/W dev?

K

What are you implying? There's coming a fix-it-all firmware that will make us all happy? You just can't share the details with us?:(

I rather suggest that people keep their eyes on other threads dealing with competing products that have better support and probably will superseed the Lim in function and quality in no time.
I would really hate to see that happen, 'cause I do think that the Lim has great potential. But I'm close to giving up on it.

What approach to FW dev do you mean? I seem to remember people offering to help on FW development, only to be ignored by Tomacro.
So it seems there's only one approach to FW dev: wait until Tomacro has some spare time to fix things. And at the rate they're doing that.......

Hey, on the bright side, I'm thankful we're keeping these engineers occupied working on a media player. If they were to get loose and start developing outsourced avionics systems for Airbus or Boeing, THEN we'd be screwed...

Sorry for ILS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrument_Landing_System) function temporary not work in 071015 release. We have reflected to engineer, he promise ILS function restore in next cut! Happy fly in meanwhile and enjoy splendid airborne life!

Hey, on the bright side, I'm thankful we're keeping these engineers occupied working on a media player. If they were to get loose and start developing outsourced avionics systems for Airbus or Boeing, THEN we'd be screwed...

Sorry for ILS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrument_Landing_System) function temporary not work in 071015 release. We have reflected to engineer, he promise ILS function restore in next cut! Happy fly in meanwhile and enjoy splendid airborne life!

:):):):):):):):):):)

I am trying to be as supportive and positive as possible with Lim and Tomacro, however, I am running out of steam as well, like Mophun. Like my previous post, I really don't have any incentive to even try re-update it anymore cause none of what I need is fixed. Again, what does "FF optimized" means? No Rewind still? my mkvs continues with no sound. (Do anyone of you, experts out there, know of any mkv that plays with sound with your lim that you can share a clip of it for me to test, if there is something wrong with my unit, or what does it need to encode the audio?) Slideshows continue to have 1-2s delays between each 1-2MB jpg photos... Not sure if the resolution setting retains in between various devices? Or sequence of turning on the TV/Lim.

Pardon my laundry list here... I need to get away from this forum for a while to get some sanity back.

Perry

MKV's play fine on my Lim.
Try experimenting with your audio settings. My guess is your settings are wrong.
MKV's with mp3 sound will play for sure. AAC not.

Maybe "FF optimized" = freeze frame optimized... :rolleyes:

It works fine for me.
Are you sure the upgrade went well?

Yes, it seemed to work OK, first Back App and the Upgrade App (didn't upgrade boot).
Just curious, which version of NFS do you use V3 or V4? (I use V3)

Now this is indeed so, lim on ntfs support is very good, but the fat32 support is unsatisfactory.We do not recommend customers use fat format. Because most HD file size are more than 4.3 gb, and fat format can not support single file with size over 4.3 gb.

THE AUSTRALIAN DISTRIBUTOR FOR TOMACRO ADVERTISES IT AS MAC OPERATING SYSTEM COMPATIBLE BUT REFUSES REFUND ON THE GROUNDS OF OS BEING A SOFTWARE INCOMPATIBILITY

Yes, it seemed to work OK, first Back App and the Upgrade App (didn't upgrade boot).
Just curious, which version of NFS do you use V3 or V4? (I use V3)

V3.
I did not do Back App.
I first did Upgrade Boot, followed by Upgrade App.

THE AUSTRALIAN DISTRIBUTOR FOR TOMACRO ADVERTISES IT AS MAC OPERATING SYSTEM COMPATIBLE BUT REFUSES REFUND ON THE GROUNDS OF OS BEING A SOFTWARE INCOMPATIBILITY

This is a difficult one. I am using the lim with a mac system with no problems at all. OK, you can use FAT32 no problem. You can also use NTFS if you happen to have Bootcamp, Parallels or VMware with the appropriate MS operating system. So it might be a bit convoluted but it does work.

FYI: I was also disappointed with the LimRemote, feel so cheap. I went and buy a Sony RM-VL600 (~$25) from Best Buy. It can control up to 8 devices. It has learning capability, and I was able to easily taught the Sony remote all the essential comments on the Lim remote. So, I have a backup plan in case if Lim remote goes out.

P.S.: Sony remote also has Macro function, which is kind of cool to push one button to turn on multiple devices and their settings...


Perry

A new limHD owner here, and a new member to this Forum. My box arrived yesterday, so I've had a couple of hours to play with it, and a few more to try out the different firmware versions.

Is it just me, or has HDMI stopped working in 1130 - It works OK for me in 1026

I've just finished flashing lundman's 1026 version - Nice work lundman - I've done a bunch of embedded arm linux stuff in the past on the iPAQ, so I'm familiar with using rom based filesystems and arm toolchains - I'll certainly be building my own romfs image with a modified fstab to get NFS working in 1026 as you did.

The curacao application seems to be... erm... somewhat... ever so slightly... more-than-a-little ... full of bugs. I can see why everyone on this forum has become fed up in the last month or so... of course, with my impeccable timing, I decided to buy the unit before you all got fed up.

CALLOHAN:

Install MacFuse with ntfs-3g, and the Lim is fine to use with OSX.

Install alternate firmware with FTP and don't even bother with USB connection.

So, Jackie, when is the official firmware coming out? The beta test has been out for a few days now... I could not get it to work and don't want to mess around with it too much right now. But, will definitely update when the official one is released.

Perry

The new test version：http://www.gendvd.com/update1130.rar
The file management function has not been added,so maybe next version it will be.

The new test version：http://www.gendvd.com/update1130.rar
The file management function has not been added,so maybe next version it will be.

Is this the version without dvd support?

What file management are you speaking of, Jackie? DVD navigation support?

Perry

Jackie, Would you also provide a "complete" list of update features so that we can judge its worth? If it differs from what others have posted.

Perry

What file management are you speaking of, Jackie? DVD navigation support?

Perry

That means the ability to copy, delete, move files to/from the internal harddisk.

That means the ability to copy, delete, move files to/from the internal harddisk.

CAN ONYONE TELL ME IF THE ISO FILES WORK IN THE NEW VERSON??

And can you stop shouting like a five-year-old boy?

And can you stop shouting like a five-year-old boy?

I have asked several now, finally a little attention !

I Actually dont have any expectation on this forum anymore.

T

Nope. Iso files don't work!

Ha! "That means the ability to copy, delete, move files to/from the internal harddisk". That will be worth the update. I did not expect that to come. Thanks for the info. Well, I think I am going to sit on the bench and wait for the next one then. This one has nothing I want to update for.

Perry

Nope. Iso files don't work!
Great, NFS works but now ISO's don't... One step forward and two steps back...

well....if people will post private beta's without any notes.......

anyway, as it's out....here are the notes for the PRIVATE cut....

New firmware major increase:
Upgrade Optimization (within 10min)
Switching audio tracks
Subtitles Synchronization
The bug of NFS network
French subtitles
Fast forward
In addition, during the process of upgrading, please do not update ¡°boot¡±, you firstly BAK then APP
After this update, the subsequent firmware update only need 10 minutes.
This test version temporarily removed the DVD navigation function


Remember folks....this is a private test version...if it forks your player...your on your own....so use with caution.

Jackie - as you know, I am always willing to test beta's - however, on this occassion, I have not tested this one becuse it has gone public - I look forward to testing the next private beta.....

K

Hi Oldpainless,
Still with the FW Release 1.60-071026, but today notice that the Mkvs with Dts sound have cuts once in a while, like happened with the AC3 before.
This happened to you?
If I use this new FW cut this sound bugs will disaperar?
Just wanted to know if you realize this problem with the 1.60-071026 release.

Best

1130 firmware test version major increase:
Upgrade Optimization (within 10min)
Switching audio tracks
Subtitles Synchronization
The bug of NFS network
French subtitles
Fast forward
In addition, during the process of upgrading, please do not update “boot”, you firstly BAK then APP.
After this update, the subsequent firmware update only need 10 minutes.
This test version temporarily removed the DVD navigation function.
The document management function has been resolved, but it has not deen intergrated into this version. We expect it will be available in the next firmware.

Hi Oldpainless,
Still with the FW Release 1.60-071026, but today notice that the Mkvs with Dts sound have cuts once in a while, like happened with the AC3 before.
This happened to you?
If I use this new FW cut this sound bugs will disaperar?
Just wanted to know if you realize this problem with the 1.60-071026 release.

Best

MKV DTS sounds drops now and again still there......for the moment..

K

Nope. Iso files don't work!

Thank you! im staying with the old firmware, i guess im not the Only One..

T

1130 firmware test version major increase:
Upgrade Optimization (within 10min)
Switching audio tracks
Subtitles Synchronization
The bug of NFS network
French subtitles
Fast forward
In addition, during the process of upgrading, please do not update “boot”, you firstly BAK then APP.
After this update, the subsequent firmware update only need 10 minutes.
This test version temporarily removed the DVD navigation function.
The document management function has been resolved, but it has not deen intergrated into this version. We expect it will be available in the next firmware.

So when will the next firmware be ready?
:confused:

Can someone please, please tell me why some of my m2ts files buffer (by which I mean play for 10 seconds pause then cycle) when played accross a gig network from a fast pc/nfs server..?

Some films buffer, some don't, all are on the same hard drive and it's not to do with size either..?

I have installed the 1130 firmware, made no difference. The only way to play the films that buffer is to transfer them to the internal drive via usb (a right pain), then they play perfectly.

Any ideas please anybody - I haven't got much hair left.! :(

OK, I am really puzzled now, why won't VCD plays on Lim? MPEG1 Video, 1152 kbps, 352*240 (4/3), at 29.97, 224 kbps, 44 KHz, 2 channels Audio Layer 2. (All VCD not playable.) I tried also changed the .dat to .mpg, no difference, both say "Disk error". Plays fine in pc.

Perry

So when will the next firmware be ready?
:confused:
Now we are not so sure of the proper time, probably within this month.

with 6500A being sold at USD399, who still want to pay USD300 for lim?

Now we are not so sure of the proper time, probably within this month.

That would be nice, but I won't hold my breath.....;)

with 6500A being sold at USD399, who still want to pay USD300 for lim?

Has anyone compared $300 LimHD200i to $179 NMT A-100? Since both are released with different chipsets, the comparison might help predicting how better the new chipset streamers will be, stability wised, based on the ever-ending struggling of the FW on the old chipset.

So, no one in here willing/able to provide feedback if Lim support VCD, MPEG1? I am not able to get any to play.

Perry

OK, since there is no help, I did some tests... hope it will help others like me in the future. Here are my preliminary conclusions:

1. Some MPEG2 with .mpg extensions that won't play or play stutterly will play smoothly if you rename it to .vob (Don't ask me why)
2. Those MPEG1 (VCDs) that do not play is because the frame size Lim accepts has to be 4x3 (i.e. 360*240). Their original size with the VCDs were 352x240. I have to re-encode it to 4x3 in order for Lim to play.
3. I think Mophun or someone stated earlier is correct, Lim will play .mkv with proper sound only if it is encoded with .ac3 audio! Not AAC.

All the above are painful steps to take, I hope future firmware updates will address some of them.

Well, best wish.

Perry

MKV DTS sounds drops now and again still there......for the moment..

K

Hello! Kevin! Tomacro engineers are waiting for your professional evaluation of the 1206-08 test version new firmware. Thanks

Lets make a Christmas wish list for the next Firmware :)

Hi, guys. I registered here just to ask you something.
Is there any support for cyrillic subtitles, because I am seriously considering on getting one of those players.

Добро пожаловать, substance - please point me to some sample files with Cyrillic subtitles and I'll try them. I know enough Russian to tell whether it's right or not.

You might also want to look into the players from Dune (http://www.dune.ru) as well - since they are developed in Russia, it's logical that support for Cyrillic would be a priority. There are some threads about them at forum.hdtv.ru (http://forum.hdtv.ru).

Dune HD will rock the Lim right off the earth... Just seen the latest Syabas
updates and gosh, they are truly making progress (and dune HD and PCH A-100
use Syabas NMT).

Are you in the loop here Mark owning such player?
I don't want to ask where you learned Russian language :-)

Lets make a Christmas wish list for the next Firmware :)

This year or next year?
FW will probably come out before Christmas as it is "quoted" good by OldP. I
trust him mostly on his opinion and wonder what it will bring. Please don't ask for
new things right now to be included or it might get delayed for another 2 months.

I don't think I will test it myself any more. I lost my interest completely... (sorry)

I am Bulgarian, not Russian ;)
Anyway, this Dune HD Ultra player looks really good, at least on paper. Does anyone know anything about a price or release date?

The list of improvements of the new F/W seems pretty long...but in summary

Lim no longer seems to lose it's settings (briteness etc)
Navigation is improved (when in folder - pressing exit takes you up 1 level - good job)
FF seems more stable accorss all formats
overall, it's seems very very stable - a huge improvement
1080p24 seems nice

All in all - probably the best f/w yet....

Jackie - the issue I mentioned with high bitrate files - it was my file - so I'd go ahead and make this one public...

K

Any improvement concerning subtitles?

Guys, can you try cyrillic subtitles, please.
When is this new firmware coming?

Can anyone tell me when we will get the ability to be able to move, edit & copy files accross the network to Lim..? This firmware, next firmware or never..?

The list of improvements of the new F/W seems pretty long...but in summary

Lim no longer seems to lose it's settings (briteness etc)
Navigation is improved (when in folder - pressing exit takes you up 1 level - good job)
FF seems more stable accorss all formats
overall, it's seems very very stable - a huge improvement
1080p24 seems nice

All in all - probably the best f/w yet....

Jackie - the issue I mentioned with high bitrate files - it was my file - so I'd go ahead and make this one public...

K

Very good news! Do you know if there is a improvement with DTS & AAC Audio with MVK movies onthe now F/W?
I only use the Lim for high definition movies. mostly mkv and ts. so this is important.Ac3 works great now. good work on that!

I also hope the new F/W reckon iso and img, the test verson did not. and the french letters mixed up with english in dir. were confusing..

T

I hope firm will be out soon .... I can't wait

Guys, can you try cyrillic subtitles, please.
When is this new firmware coming?

Hey, so I tried the Cyrillic .srt file you PM'd me and it displayed as gobbledygook Chinese... :(

I tried loading the .srt in Wordpad and all the characters except punctuation displayed as extended ASCII junk characters (didn't see any Cyrillic), so I guess it is encoded for a specific codepage. Maybe it would be worth trying a UTF-8 .srt file, but somehow I doubt the limHD can do Cyrillic and I'm not sure we have any positive confirmation that it can deal with UTF-8 encoding yet.

Lol, pretty bad news considering the fact that just today I bought a Samsung 37 M86BD instead of a Sharp Aquos 37 XD1E, just to spare some money for the limHD.. :( I guess I`ll have to buy a DVI-HDMI cable and play movies from my PC. Just have to think of a way to transfer the audio signal to the TV, too.
Damn! :(

The list of improvements of the new F/W seems pretty long...but in summary

Lim no longer seems to lose it's settings (briteness etc)
Navigation is improved (when in folder - pressing exit takes you up 1 level - good job)
FF seems more stable accorss all formats
overall, it's seems very very stable - a huge improvement
1080p24 seems nice

All in all - probably the best f/w yet....

Jackie - the issue I mentioned with high bitrate files - it was my file - so I'd go ahead and make this one public...

K



Hello! Kevin! Thank you very much for your evaluation, This weekends the firmware will be issued.

Can anyone tell me when we will get the ability to be able to move, edit & copy files accross the network to Lim..? This firmware, next firmware or never..?

The file management function (move, edit & copy files accross the network to Lim) has been ready. But it has not yet been integrated into this firmware, so maybe next version it can be included.

Hi Jackie,

Please, please ask them to include the file management function in the next firmware. I really need this ability.!

Thank you...

I noticed gendvd.com (http://www.gendvd.com) (at least as presented to browsers outside of China) now sells only the limHD200i, hard drives and cables... no mention of all those pirated movies pre-loaded or available separately. Definitely looks more legit now. No new firmware posted, though... :(

Hi Jackie,

Please, please ask them to include the file management function in the next firmware. I really need this ability.!

Thank you...

I second that!

Jackie,
Weekend is over.
Any chance of supplying us with the new firmware?

Hi Jackie,

Please, please ask them to include the file management function in the next firmware. I really need this ability.!

Thank you...

Rest assured,I will. At present ,Tomacro are testing the compatility and stability, meanwhile try to add the file management function.

Jackie,
Weekend is over.
Any chance of supplying us with the new firmware?

Let me contact with them.

At present ,Tomacro are testing the compatility and stability, meanwhile try to add the file management function.

Isn't it bad practice to throw in a new feature AFTER the whole Q/A dept (Kevin) has signed off on this release? Given the upcoming holidays, let's get the current release out there to bang on...

Isn't it bad practice to throw in a new feature AFTER the whole Q/A dept (Kevin) has signed off on this release? Given the upcoming holidays, let's get the current release out there to bang on...

Agreed...Jackie....it is bad practice to add things AFTER beta testing....just make this one public whilst Tomacro work on new functions.....please?


And Mark...u know I luv ya...but dont be cheeky....lol

K

Agreed...Jackie....it is bad practice to add things AFTER beta testing....just make this one public whilst Tomacro work on new functions.....please?


And Mark...u know I luv ya...but dont be cheeky....lol

K

K,
You've got the latest cut.
Just post it.

K,
You've got the latest cut.
Just post it.


hey...if Jackie says it's Ok to post it, glad to....

K

hey...if Jackie says it's Ok to post it, glad to....

K

Is there any improvement with DTS & AAC Audio with MVK movies in the new F/W?
1/3 of my mkv files have sound, veery frustrating.. thanks

T

Guys, I need help with Samba network setup. What I want to understand is how to wire up the network to the lim.

1. I have home wireless network in placed. I don't think Lim has a wireless device built in, does it? So, how do I get them to communicate? Do I use a bridge? plug the bridge RJ45 port to the Lim RJ45 port?

2. Do I need to login the network (laptop computer) using Guest account? and make the "media" folder a shared folder?

Please advice.
Perry

Hello! Everyone! New test firmare is out Please download on：http://www.gendvd.com/update1206-08.rar
The following problems are amended :
1. Some film sources’s subtitles is not synchronous.
2. Lim crash when you withdraw after browsing pictures. Note: If progressive scan , the screen still turns black , and there’s no more other problem. Actually, Progressive scan also can not work on the South Korea machines, and as soon as you get to browse, the machine will restart.
3. Better Stability .
Note: Since yesterday evening, the lim have been playing the middle-bit-rate film for the whole night and did not crash. This morning on this basis,we broadcast DVD.ISO file ( neither break off the power nor restart during this process), it still operated normally, and then we withdraw to play higher—bit-rate film " the Fifth Element” it broadcasted normally to the end, and during this " the Fifth Element” broadcasting process, we also withdrawed for one time to play DVD.ISO, and it played normally.
If you have updated the BAK and APP of 1130 last time, this time you only need to upgrade APP within 10 minutes.

There is no app in the zip file, right? I unzipped the rar but only find BAK and BOOT.

Perry

Hello! Everyone! New test firmare is out Please download on： ... update1206-08.rar


Winrar tells me the archive is ends unexpectedly - I've tried downloading it on a few different computers and get the same each time. The file is 4.1MB in size - is that correct?

Edit: This firmware is also available via the Tomacro site now - The full archive is 6.3MB.

Uh Oh....

Upgrade Bak - Please wait 10 mins... Duly waited 15-20 mins... rebooted
Upgrade App - About 2 mins into erasing flash, the screen suddenly went blank and the VFD went to showing only the power light. I waited a further hour just in case it was doing something useful, but nothing else happened. I turned off and back on again.. Nothing but the power light.

I keep trying the emergency recovery thing by holding down OK whilst turning the power on, but the lights on the display never light up.

If I connect a USB cable then the PC is not able to see the disk, so I've had to format disks using an IDE cable in the PC. I've tried to get into recovery mode with no hard disk installed, with an NTFS HDD containing an update folder and appropriate.bin files, and also with a FAT 32 HDD containing the right files. No matter what I do, I'm unable to get anything except the power light to show up.


Have I killed it?

Hi could somebody explain simple steps for FULL upgrade ? (What part: Boot, Bak, App? Should I use files from other releases ?)
I think I still have a very old or a beta version and never upgraded my Lim before, as I preferred waiting for a release worth the effort.
I have read everything and its contrary in the manuals & forums so if somebody patient enough could write it down, well it could be useful for many.
Thank you.

Excuse me! I am sorry to say that there were some problems with the test firmware we sticked on our website at first,but now I have renovated, so please download the firmware again on http://www.gendvd.com/update1206-08.rar
I apologize for the inconvinience. Thank you for your kind understanding.

Hi could somebody explain simple steps for FULL upgrade ? (What part: Boot, Bak, App? Should I use files from other releases ?)
I think I still have a very old or a beta version and never upgraded my Lim before, as I preferred waiting for a release worth the effort.
I have read everything and its contrary in the manuals & forums so if somebody patient enough could write it down, well it could be useful for many.
Thank you.

The way to upgrade
Specific ways:
1. Put update folder in the Primary Partition of internal hard drive.
2. Implement SETUP \ BOOT firstly; After TV screen turning black, turn off the machine and restart it after 5 seconds
3. Implement SETUP \ application; After about 15 minutes, Turn off the machine when you find the TV screen has turned black; Restart the machine.
4. Implement SETUP \ application BAK

Note : in the upgrading process you should not cut off the power, force to turn off or restart the machine in the halfway.

4. Implement SETUP \ application BAK


What does the BAK APP stage actually do? The boot and app ones are obvious, they upload the bootloader and the curacao application firmware images, but what's the BAK bit about? Does this create a backup of the app image?

Fenc, you did not kill it, formating won't help. Just did what you did by holding down the OK buttton when turning on until all the lights light up. Then, wait for a while (30min?) and it will all go out... then you should be good to go. If not, then, what happen is you may copy an old FW to the uupdate directory to go back. Do the same hard reset process. This happened to me also last time, I wish someone would said something clearer in the lim menu or here.

Perry

Fenc, you did not kill it, formating won't help. Just did what you did by holding down the OK buttton when turning on until all the lights light up.

Hi PC01.

How long do I need to hold down the OK button for? My finger gets tired after a couple of mins. No matter what sequence of power and OK I do (some posts said press OK just-after power... some say press and hold, then press power) I can't get anything except the power light.

I had the unit in recovery mode last week with no problems, but can't get there now. Last week I held down OK, then pressed power, then waited until the lights came on, then released both buttons... Today, I've tried all sorts but got nowhere.

Well, you seem to do the right thing, it should only take a <10 seconds, definitely not that long, 2min. Now you had this problem, I have to think twice about upgrading. BTW, have you try going back to the previous FW? Replace the content of the update folder with the old FW, and do the reset thing, see if that helps.

Perry

Now you had this problem, I have to think twice about upgrading.

I don't think this can be blamed on the new firmware... It hadn't made it past erasing 1026, let alone starting to install 1206-08


BTW, have you try going back to the previous FW? Replace the content of the update folder with the old FW, and do the reset thing, see if that helps.


Good idea - Thanks Perry.... I just tried it with 1026 in the update folder - No change, still can't get anything except the power light.

Is the recovery mode functionality is part of the bootloader, or is that what bak app is all about? Does anyone know anything fixable that could stop the unit from lighting all the lights?

Cheers,

Fecn.

Fenc, one more try, and clarification: "Does anyone know anything fixable that could stop the unit from lighting all the lights?" Are you saying, you hold down the power button along with the OK button, all you lights lit and you want to stop that? If so, that is what you want, you should not want to stop that. All lights should be on... then the update will take a little while to finish, and the lights will then go out. You then turn off the machine, wait a couple seconds and then turn it back on.

Perry

Hi Perry -I'll rephrase. I want all the lights to light up so I can get the unit to perform a recovery, but only the power light will show. Is there anything I can do to fix that?

Fecn,
Well, thank you rephrasing, that clears up the mud but I have no other suggestions. Sorry.

All,
I did update to the latest FW, Bak > App, everything goes smoothly this time. LimHD is now playing all my previous playable files, and all previously non-playables are still non-playable (not just their encoding method can not be decoded, but frame size matters). However, I did notice 3 major improvements:
1. << Rewind works now, at least with .m2t, H.264 files, mpg...
2. The crash bug seems to go away, even after playing a nonlim playable file, it does not crash the system.
3. In contrary to what Mark observe, I actual think lim loads files a little faster now. e.g. DVD TS.

Minor changes:
1. Initial startup music is gone (I think it is good, because it is set to such a high volume in the past, drives me crazy)
2. After playing some lim non-playable files, and return to the main menu, the files structures are still there! In the past, I have to go to USB and then return back to main menu in order to see anything in the HD directory.

Other wishes:
1. Photo slideshow can improve (no delay, with some transition effects)
2. Support for more file formats, encoding methods... (why no support for VCD, 352*240 puzzles me. I know it is not an HD media player markets for, but... come on...)

Best wish,
Perry

After upgrade app it would power up and not show the lights.... unless you wait for a minute. But even after that it didnt work well: no HDMI signal. Tried resboot, unplug and reboot: no luck .


I hooked up a VGA and got some (greenish) signal, went and finished upgrading application bak, rebooted. swithced to hdmi no luck. Ive rebooted both the projector and the limhd and it gets a lock on hdmi.

ok problem numero two:
if i manage to lock on hdmi 1080i and then choose 480i it doesn't lock back.
i need to swith the projector to vga input choose hdmi 480i and then switch projector to hdmi. Same from 480i to 1080i switch.
so it looks like VGA is the way to change resolutions for hdmi :)

Fecn,
Well, thank you rephrasing, that clears up the mud but I have no other suggestions. Sorry.

All,
I did update to the latest FW, Bak > App, everything goes smoothly this time. LimHD is now playing all my previous playable files, and all previously non-playables are still non-playable (not just their encoding method can not be decoded, but frame size matters). However, I did notice 3 major improvements:
1. << Rewind works now, at least with .m2t, H.264 files, mpg...
2. The crash bug seems to go away, even after playing a nonlim playable file, it does not crash the system.
3. In contrary to what Mark observe, I actual think lim loads files a little faster now. e.g. DVD TS.

Minor changes:
1. Initial startup music is gone (I think it is good, because it is set to such a high volume in the past, drives me crazy)
2. After playing some lim non-playable files, and return to the main menu, the files structures are still there! In the past, I have to go to USB and then return back to main menu in order to see anything in the HD directory.

Other wishes:
1. Photo slideshow can improve (no delay, with some transition effects)
2. Support for more file formats, encoding methods... (why no support for VCD, 352*240 puzzles me. I know it is not an HD media player markets for, but... come on...)

Best wish,
Perry


Thank you for your evaluation, Perry!

The way to upgrade...
Thanks a lot !
I'll try that tonight.

For the green minded: this player without a hard drive inside takes 8 watts when on, 6 watts when turned off from the remote and 0 watts when turned off from the button on the player.
Also it works with a USB hub for me and sees the 2 drives (a hard drive and a dvd drive) behind the hub as USB1 and USB2. It seems I need to reboot and even unplug the limd in order to have them recognized though.
Also rebooting and powering off resets the brightness to a too bright setting.

Can you please remind me how do I change the brightness on this thing ?

Nevermind i found it

Often when the brightness goes to max, the onboard volume control goes to max (over 100%) as well, causing terrible distortion on the analog outputs and also the digital outputs if outputting PCM, so watch out for that...

Yes, I see the brightness bug is back!
Perry

I have a question about the video output of the lim. When the lim is connected to the TV via HDMI 1080P is the signal from the S-Video still active? (480I of course) The reason i ask is because all of my TVs in the house are fed from one primary source. So whatever i'm watching whether it's cable, DVD etc all tvs display the same program. However, only the main tv is connected with HDMI, the others are fed through S-Video. So what i'm asking is if i'm watching HDMI on the main tv would the other tvs display the picture through S-Video or would i have to set the lim to S-Video output and watch S-Video on the main TV also. I hope i explained this clearly.

ok problem numero two:
if i manage to lock on hdmi 1080i and then choose 480i it doesn't lock back.
i need to swith the projector to vga input choose hdmi 480i and then switch projector to hdmi. Same from 480i to 1080i switch.
so it looks like VGA is the way to change resolutions for hdmi :)

I did the same. but that was with the test verson, a bit tricky.the new F/W autom. set to hdmi.
The new F/W dont support DTS sound. over 90% of my mkv has DTS sound :(
i hope the next cut supports it..

T

I did the same. but that was with the test verson, a bit tricky.the new F/W autom. set to hdmi.
The new F/W dont support DTS sound. over 90% of my mkv has DTS sound :(
i hope the next cut supports it..

T


DTS is supported as a passthrough over optical, so you need the Lim connected to a DTS compatable amp

K

DTS is supported as a passthrough over optical, so you need the Lim connected to a DTS compatable amp

K

Thank you very mutch! it work flawless now :) thanks again!:)

DTS is supported as a passthrough over optical, so you need the Lim connected to a DTS compatable amp

K

Hi Kevin,

I updated the Lim with the new FW 1.60-071026
and everthing seems ok and the HDMI bug was fixed :) Now I dont loose the 1080p configuration even changing channel and coming back.
The double choice for sub size is great, especially for big screens and seems all to be very stable..but regarding stability I cannot complain with the Lim cause even working 6 or 7 hours, never crashed.

I just notice some problem that was not resolved yet, not even with this new FW, which is the sound drops and cuts on the MKV's with DTS.

You also feel that problem?

Thing that Tomacro will find a way to resolve this issue???

Regarding everthing else seems perfect...really happy with Lim, just this thing with the DTS, grrrr :):):)

Is there anyway for me to reconvert the MKV's with DTS to MKV's on AC3 without recompressing image? Something good and quick?

Or better wait to a new firmware?

Asking all this cause its really a drag earing this drops here and there during a all movie :)

Ahh, last question..if I buy a wireless USB adapter and connect it on the lim, can I have acess to my wireless network?
For me its impossible to thing to pass a lan cable all from my office to the living room, but I have a wireless network all around house.

Thanks,

M

Hi Kevin,

I updated the Lim with the new FW 1.60-071026
and everthing seems ok and the HDMI bug was fixed :) Now I dont loose the 1080p configuration even changing channel and coming back.
The double choice for sub size is great, especially for big screens and seems all to be very stable..but regarding stability I cannot complain with the Lim cause even working 6 or 7 hours, never crashed.

I just notice some problem that was not resolved yet, not even with this new FW, which is the sound drops and cuts on the MKV's with DTS.

You also feel that problem?

Thing that Tomacro will find a way to resolve this issue???

Regarding everthing else seems perfect...really happy with Lim, just this thing with the DTS, grrrr :):):)

Is there anyway for me to reconvert the MKV's with DTS to MKV's on AC3 without recompressing image? Something good and quick?

Or better wait to a new firmware?

Asking all this cause its really a drag earing this drops here and there during a all movie :)

Ahh, last question..if I buy a wireless USB adapter and connect it on the lim, can I have acess to my wireless network?
For me its impossible to thing to pass a lan cable all from my office to the living room, but I have a wireless network all around house.

Thanks,

M

You dont have the lastest F/W the new is 1.60-071206-8
Ive just finishd a MKV movie with DTS, had no problem!

T

Well, when looking at some other product's FW updates, I am disappointed about the little progress Tomacro has made from last FW. It fix one thing (resolution settings) and broke another (brightness bug). Take a look at Popcorn hour FW update:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=958467

WOW! Yes, it is a new product, a lot of broken pieces, but, look, feel like they have 50 software engineers working on making that a great product, compare with 5 items changes with the Lim. I am considering selling Lim and buy PH and perhaps still have money left over? Come on, can we get more improvements quicker? I really hope the photo browsing or browsing in between videos and loading time for some .m2t are a little faster.

Perry

What's the largest internal drive it will support..?

I know they ship with 750GB but would it work with a 1TB drive..??

You dont have the lastest F/W the new is 1.60-071206-8
Ive just finishd a MKV movie with DTS, had no problem!

T

Sorry, my mistake...I updated with the 1.60-071206-8 (missed to write the-8) taken from tomacro website... and have still drops on mkvs with dts sound.

I updated like the instructions on tomacro website..
upgrade BAK firstly, then upgrade APP;do not update BOOT.

I had the previous 1.60-071206...should I upgrade on the old fashion?

Will that resolve the DTS problem on MKVs?

I reinstall the FW in the old fashion

1. Implement SETUP \ BOOT firstly; After TV screen turning black, turn off the machine and restart it after 5 seconds
2. Implement SETUP \ application; After about 15 minutes, Turn off the machine when you find the TV screen has turned black; Restart the machine.
3. Implement SETUP \ application BAK

and still MKV's with DTS sound drops...anybody as still this problem?

Hmm, so a limHD300p (http://www.szrongyu.com/en/product_details.asp?id=907) is out... though it looks like a competitor in the same city just stealing the name...

hello, is it possible to use a wifi dongle ?

Sorry, my mistake...I updated with the 1.60-071206-8 (missed to write the-8) taken from tomacro website... and have still drops on mkvs with dts sound.

I updated like the instructions on tomacro website..
upgrade BAK firstly, then upgrade APP;do not update BOOT.

I had the previous 1.60-071206...should I upgrade on the old fashion?

Will that resolve the DTS problem on MKVs?

Not sure what the issue is, as some DTS MKV's play without any sounds drops, whilst others have the sound drop issue now and again.....

Jackie - I will email you a sample - could you get Tomacro to take a look

Cheers

K

hello, is it possible to use a wifi dongle ?

A Wi-Fi dongle won't work; you need a wireless Ethernet bridge, but keep in mind you'll need a hardwired connection if you want to stream HD.

Not sure what the issue is, as some DTS MKV's play without any sounds drops, whilst others have the sound drop issue now and again.....

Jackie - I will email you a sample - could you get Tomacro to take a look

Cheers

K

Thanks for your reply, kevin.

I would really love to know what is about the DTS stuff..cause all the rest is pretty good and stable, so good work on the side of Tomacro. My lim is quite stable and serves all my purposes when I bought, just this stuff with the MKV's with DTS. At the moment the both DTS MKV that I have give me that problem, cause all the others are in AC3.

Please, keep me updated with new regarding this DTS issue, if you will so kind Kevin.

Best,

M

Not sure what the issue is, as some DTS MKV's play without any sounds drops, whilst others have the sound drop issue now and again.....

Jackie - I will email you a sample - could you get Tomacro to take a look

Cheers

K
My pleasure！Merry Christmas! :)

Hello! Everybody ! Merry Christmas! Wishing you health and happiness in the year to come.
Sincerely yours,
Jackie

True Kevin, Some Mkv DTS files play good others play with drops. I manage to arrange few files to check it and its like you say...Indeed strange cause tow of them have the same enconding settings ??? one plays fine, the other with drops...

Merry Christmas to everbody and a Happy New Year!

M

:)

The brightness, contrast, saturation and volume settings are worse than I originally thought with this new FW. When playing between various movies, the settings are gone (Well, at least it is resetted to various range while you press the Setup) This also happen if you turn off the Lim, of course. I think I am going back to the previous FW, this is just too troublesome for me to have to reset it in between movies.

Perry

One step forward, two steps back... limHD now uses the global aspect ratio setting for DVD playback (+1), but now it forgets the global aspect ratio (-1) along with the output format (-1).

Hi folks. Help needed. I just swapped out my old 250GB hard drive for a 500GB. Spent a good many hours reloading all my files on to the new disc. Recognised as an (E) drive on my PC so all good. Disc fitted and connected back into the LIM correctly. After finishing reloading I went to check the files on the TV and the menu was stuck on USB. There is no USB cable plugged in. I rebooted 3 times, took the power cord out for 30 minutes but as soon as I rebooted the first setting is USB with no other option than Samba, NFS and Setup.

Any ideas? Does it need a fresh firmware install? Tx. C

OK. Just fixed it. The disc jumper needed to be reset for the LIMHD. Sorry. Never sodding easy is it! Happy New Year everyone BTW (yes - even you HiJack!!!). Hope everyone has a healthy, happy and successful one. C

Disc Jumper? What's that?

The IDE master/slave one, I assume....

Yep. So many options. So little time.

Jackie,
When should we look forward to the FW that will fix the settings loosing bug? I am contempating going back to the previous FW. Please advice.

Perry