So...how about those pictures then.... :)

Kevin


Now he needs to buy a digital camera ;)

Now he needs to buy a digital camera ;)


Yeah.....of course...unless the lesser spoted LimHD200i only comes out when it's a full blue moon.....lol....I hope these things are real....if not I've just wasted hard earned cash!!!... :cool:

Kevin

Yeah.....of course...unless the lesser spoted LimHD200i only comes out when it's a full blue moon.....lol....I hope these things are real....if not I've just wasted hard earned cash!!!...

Bad thing but you can sell it fast over ebay again as new device befor you look on it hehehe

cHarOn

Dear Kevin,
Firstly, I apologize for the unexpected delay of the post. We have sent a new one on June.13 by post. We hope you will be satisfied with our service and get lots of entertainment from our new product limHD200i.
Last time ,you propose us to build a subset on the forum for each manufacturer. That is really a wonderful suggestion. We will make great efforts in order to put this idea into effect.Thank you very much. You suggestions and advices are always welcome.
Jackie

Dear Kevin,
Firstly, I apologize for the unexpected delay of the post. We have sent a new one on June.13 by post. We hope you will be satisfied with our service and get lots of entertainment from our new product limHD200i.
Last time ,you propose us to build a subset on the forum for each manufacturer. That is really a wonderful suggestion. We will make great efforts in order to put this idea into effect.Thank you very much. You suggestions and advices are always welcome.
Jackie

Hello Jackie

Nice to see you on here again......

Regarding your service; No complaints from me here...you have been a pleasure to deal with.....

I look forward to getting the unit and posting a review....

I think a sticky for each manufacturer is great idea and will benefit both user and maker....MODS - Lets see if we can make this happen?

Kevin

How can I buy limHD200i in Canada?
Do you guys know any agents?
TKS!
There's still no agency of limHD200i in Canada . But we can deliver the product to you by post.

Wow, if Sigma 8623 can play all these files smoothly, then why anybody would spend additional hundred bucks for 8634 devices?
Now the factory has no plans for the 8634 chip product, Engineers manufacturers are currently doing the research of 8623.

For now I know NMT (http://www.syabas.com/solution_nmt.html) only.
Dvico once said that they would develop one but I expect it not earlier this fall.
NMT link is invalid, and I did not find any information on NMT. Can you give us a further explanation.

yip.

hopefully NMT can do that.

It will be fatastic if it can support MKV.

8623 maybe cannot support MKV at all. only 128 MB

So I suggest Tomacro to put forward 8634 chip player ASAP.

maybe the sales manager maggie? ,you can forward my suggestion?

thanks
Thank you for your valuable suggestion. Now the factory has no plans for the 8634 chip product, Engineers manufacturers are currently doing the research of 8623. It is estimated that after a few months the new version can support the MKV. Engineers are making great efforts in order to make 8623 play its functional limits.

Thank you for your valuable suggestion. Now the factory has no plans for the 8634 chip product, Engineers manufacturers are currently doing the research of 8623. It is estimated that after a few months the new version can support the MKV. Engineers are making great efforts in order to make 8623 play its functional limits.


Jackie, I assume you mean New Firmware?

Regards

Kevin

:D Now...I don't want to speak to soon...but....I may have a solution to the whole MKV to anything problem.....

Can someone try this file on their media streamer please. It's a 720p H.264 with AC3 5.1 in an AVI container....

Link here
http://rapidshare.com/files/37548503/test.avi.html

Tools used....

Step 1 Take your MKV file run it throught mkv2vfr (command line mkv2vfr name.mkv name.avi)

Step 2 Take the MKV file again and run through mkvguiextract (load the mkv file, and just extract the audio)

Step 3 Take the AVI file and the AC3 and run though avi-mux gui (output settings - AVI ; make rec lists ticked, mp3 and add junk off)


Job done.......

mkv2vfr seems to sort out the variable frame rate issue.....but I'm sure someone will correct me....anyhows....so far, I have tried every method, and every one produces a file that plays out of sync.......until now.....

So far, done about 8 movies, and all plays perfect without the normal sync issues.....so REALLY want your feedback....

Kevin

Come on Guys....I know it's early in the morning over there, but it's late afternoon here.....someone must be up already!!....lol.....

Anyhows....plays great in windows media player...so I'll look forward to your feedback on the streamers....

Cheers

Kevin

Jackie

Could you guys also try this file and check for sync issues etc?

Regards

Kevin

now upto movie 23 using this...and no issues via media player classic....graph edit likes and play the files too.......have we cracked it dear Watson?

K

whats interesting using this method is when you check the orignal mkv file with media info it shows...say....MPEG4-AVC as the video stream, but after the above process....its show the video stream as intel H.264......maybe that is/was (?) the proper codec.......

Anyways....going to chill now...few beers and watch a movie....

Have fun

K

PS...I'm not a technical guy...so.................but it works.....I do hope that it works for you guys, and if there is anything else I can add.....you know....what box did you check/uncheck, I'm very happy to help...

Have fun.....till tomorrow

A message from your Windows: you're fast running out of full stops.

:D

A message from your Windows: you're fast running out of full stops.

:D

Bugger....need to buy some more then....lol

K

[QUOTE=oldpainless68]whats interesting using this method is when you check the orignal mkv file with media info it shows...say....MPEG4-AVC as the video stream, but after the above process....its show the video stream as intel H.264......maybe that is/was (?) the proper codec.......

Anyways....going to chill now...few beers and watch a movie....

Have fun

K

PS...I'm not a technical guy...so.................but it works.....I do hope that it works for you guys, and if there is anything else I can add.....you know....what box did you check/uncheck, I'm very happy to help...

Have fun.....till tomorrow

Pretty sorry that I didn't reply to you in times. I find it is a wise method.We will consider it. Thank you.I find you are very professional in this field.

whats interesting using this method is when you check the orignal mkv file with media info it shows...say....MPEG4-AVC as the video stream, but after the above process....its show the video stream as intel H.264......maybe that is/was (?) the proper codec.......

Anyways....going to chill now...few beers and watch a movie....

Have fun

K

PS...I'm not a technical guy...so.................but it works.....I do hope that it works for you guys, and if there is anything else I can add.....you know....what box did you check/uncheck, I'm very happy to help...

Have fun.....till tomorrow

vlc don't like it, at least on my box. media player classic, audio sync problems bigtime at the end (when the black couple are talking). seems ok earlier.

Strange.......I'm playing them in windows media player and media player classic with no sync issues at all.

What's your pc spec?...mine's a 2.8 duo core, with 1gig ram.

Lastly, have you tried running it through graph edit..it should show it using ffdshow and ac3 filter (if you have them installed?)

Kevin

Uploaded another mkv to avi test file with lots of speaking this time for you guys to test (can someone try this on a streamer too)

link here

http://rapidshare.com/files/37690251/test8.avi.html


G-spot report's:
File Length Correct
Multipart OpenDML AVI (2 parts), "rec list" style
(27 frames in first part, 2724 frames follow)
Interleave: 155 ms (3.7 v.frames), preload=192
Audio frames: Aligned on interleaves
H.264/MPEG-4 AVC

Media Info report's:

Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Format/Family : RIFF
File size : 99.0 MiB
PlayTime : 1mn 54s
Bit rate : 7236 Kbps
Writing application : AVI-Mux GUI 1.17.7, Aug 8 2006 20:59:17

Video #0
Codec : Intel H.264
Codec/Info : Intel H.264
PlayTime : 1mn 54s
Bit rate : 6775 Kbps
Width : 1280 pixels
Height : 544 pixels
Aspect ratio : 2.35
Frame rate : 23.985 fps
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.406

Audio #0
Codec : AC3
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
StreamSize : 73.3 KiB
Title : 1_Track2
Coherency/PlayTime : 114688
ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, Subwoofer

And for completeness, here's the media info report on the original MKV file

Format : Matroska
File size : 100 MiB
PlayTime : 1mn 58s
Bit rate : 7087 Kbps
Movie name : XXXXXXXXXX.mkv
Encoded date : UTC 2007-02-13 20:20:15
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.0.0 ('After The Rain Has Fallen') built on Jan 13 2007 19:58:56
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.0
Cover : timesi.ttf / TCCEB.TTF / times.ttf / timesbd.ttf / timesbi.ttf

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-4 AVC
Codec/Info : MPEG4 ISO advanced profile
PlayTime : 1mn 58s
Width : 1280 pixels
Height : 544 pixels
Aspect ratio : 2.35
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Title : XXXX
Language : English

Audio #0
Codec : AC3
Codec/Info : Dolby AC3
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Title : AC3 5.1
Language : English



Let me know how you get on.

Kevin

Seems like you get the framerate variation with clips, rather than full movies (although the clips are in perfect sync)

Here's media info of an MKV before converting:

Format : Matroska
File size : 4.37 GiB
PlayTime : 1h 47mn
Bit rate : 5810 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2007-06-02 22:07:02
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.0.0 ('After The Rain Has Fallen') built on Jan 13 2007 19:58:56
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.0

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-4 AVC
Codec/Info : MPEG4 ISO advanced profile
PlayTime : 1h 47mn
Width : 1280 pixels
Height : 544 pixels
Aspect ratio : 2.35
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Language : English

Audio #0
Codec : AC3
Codec/Info : Dolby AC3
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Language : English

And here's the media info report after converting to avi:

Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Format/Family : RIFF
File size : 4.37 GiB
PlayTime : 1h 47mn
Bit rate : 5813 Kbps
Writing application : AVI-Mux GUI 1.17.7, Aug 8 2006 20:59:17

Video #0
Codec : Intel H.264
Codec/Info : Intel H.264
PlayTime : 1h 47mn
Bit rate : 5160 Kbps
Width : 1280 pixels
Height : 544 pixels
Aspect ratio : 2.35
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.309

Audio #0
Codec : AC3
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
StreamSize : 369 KiB
Title : 1_Track2
Coherency/PlayTime : 6456320
ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, Subwoofer

Just done another 2 movies, and plays perfectly in sync etc..

Kevin

FYI..converstion takes about 15-20 mins per film

Kevin

I've just been told not everyone will know what mkv2vfr is or where to find it.

mkv2vfr is part of Haali's MatroskaSplitter. Download and install the latest package, and you will find the command line app in the install directory of Haali\MatroskaSplitter.

As it's a command line app, it would be easier to drag your mkv file into this directory and name your files 1.mkv 1.avi, then when muxing using AVI-mux gui, call the output the "name of your film.avi"

Tools and downloads:

Haali Media Splitter
http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/

MKVEXtractGUI
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MKVExtractGUI
(don't forget you will need mkvextract/ mkvmerge, so install mkvtoolnix, then go to the mkvtoolnix install directory and copy mkvextract and mkvmerge and paste into your MKVExtractGUI folder)


AVI-Mux_GUI-1.17.7
http://www.alexander-noe.com/video/amg/#download


Then, 3 simple steps:

Step 1 Take your MKV file run it throught mkv2vfr (command line mkv2vfr name.mkv name.avi)

Step 2 Next, take the original MKV file and process it through MKVExtractGUI (load the mkv file, and just extract the audio)

Step 3 Last bit, take the AVI file that mkv2vfr has created, and the AC3 file extracted by MKVExtractGUI and mux them with avi-mux gui (output settings - AVI ; make rec lists ticked, mp3 and add junk off)

And remember, no loss of quality, as we are demuxing and changing from VFR to CFR and remuxing (to keep the sync, because when in the MKV container, the sync data is in the MKV container itself).

If anyone still has problems, let me know and I'll write a more complete guide.



Hope that helps.

Kevin

Just a quick update. I have now run various framerate films through this process and mkv2vfr appears to indentfy and manage them all correctly, and all muxed files play fine.

Kevin

And for those that don't have it installed

http://www.free-codecs.com/K_Lite_Codec_Pack_download.htm

Install full version first, and then install the latest version of the Haali Media Splitter (for mkv2vfr). If you install Haali Media Splitter first, K-lite codec pack will detect it during install and ask to remove it.

When installing, make sure you configure FFDSHOW (video config) for H.264 and ac3 filter to 5.1.

Kevin

Ok....one last test file from me:

Link here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/37735289/test9.avi.html

I think I have satisfied myself that this process works (so far every time - In sync).

So, now it's over to you guys to test the 3 files I've posted (on streamers that support H.264+AC3 in AVI) and try this method yourself too, and report back.

Have fun (if your not...your not doing it right..lol.....)

And do me one small favor, IF it works for you, by way of a small compliment, please refer to it as the oldpainless method (fitting given how much hassle this whole MKV to anything has been!!).

Oh...and happy Fathers Day!! (or is that just in the UK?)

Kevin

And remember, if you are playing these files that I have uploaded on a PC, these are 720p files, so you will need a powerful set up....as you would with a 720p MKV file.....or you will get sync and stuttering issues...

Kevin

:D Now...I don't want to speak to soon...but....I may have a solution to the whole MKV to anything problem.....

Can someone try this file on their media streamer please. It's a 720p H.264 with AC3 5.1 in an AVI container....

Link here
http://rapidshare.com/files/37548503/test.avi.html

Tools used....

Step 1 Take your MKV file run it throught mkv2vfr (command line mkv2vfr name.mkv name.avi)

Step 2 Take the MKV file again and run through mkvguiextract (load the mkv file, and just extract the audio)

Step 3 Take the AVI file and the AC3 and run though avi-mux gui (output settings - AVI ; make rec lists ticked, mp3 and add junk off)


Job done.......

mkv2vfr seems to sort out the variable frame rate issue.....but I'm sure someone will correct me....anyhows....so far, I have tried every method, and every one produces a file that plays out of sync.......until now.....

So far, done about 8 movies, and all plays perfect without the normal sync issues.....so REALLY want your feedback....

Kevin

We have tested our product following you instruction. It can play well without any problems. Voice and Video can be synchronized. The firmware we use is the 0531 version. Next Friday, new firmware version will be issued, which will solve all problems except MKV. The rate of the product will be improved to 45M/S.

Happy Fathers' Day!

We have tested our product following you instruction. It can play well without any problems. Voice and Video can be synchronized. The firmware we use is the 0531 version. Next Friday, new firmware version will be issued, which will solve all problems except MKV. The rate of the product will be improved to 45M/S.

So Gendvd....please give a little more detail of your findings playing these files..

Regards

Kevin

We have tested our product following you instruction. It can play well without any problems. Voice and Video can be synchronized. The firmware we use is the 0531 version. Next Friday, new firmware version will be issued, which will solve all problems except MKV. The rate of the product will be improved to 45M/S.

The 45M/S rate is for which codec? H264, VC1, or MPEG2? What maximum rates are possible over network and USB interface?

So, all reports from people using this method report NO sync issues at all!!!...looks like we cracked it!

Kevin

OK guys....my LimHD200i has reached the UK and is out for delivery.........hopefully, review later today!

Kevin

The 45M/S rate is for which codec? H264, VC1, or MPEG2? What maximum rates are possible over network and USB interface?

I think (Jackie - correct me if I'm wrong) that the current firmware allows upto 40mbps on virtually all of the supported formats.

Kevin

I think (Jackie - correct me if I'm wrong) that the current firmware allows upto 40mbps on virtually all of the supported formats.

Kevin

Hello Kevin , you are right, current 070531 firmware can reach 40mbps for all of the streaming media files except MKV.

So Gendvd....please give a little more detail of your findings playing these files..

Regards

Kevin
We have sent the detail to you by E-mail. Would you tell us what software do you use to view the Video File Rate at present?

Just a quick question - How do I insert pics?

Kevin

We have sent the detail to you by E-mail. Would you tell us what software do you use to view the Video File Rate at present?

Tools for viewing info are:

Mediainfo

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MediaInfo

and

gspot codec information

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/GSpot

Regards

Kevin

The 45M/S rate is for which codec? H264, VC1, or MPEG2? What maximum rates are possible over network and USB interface?
USB, NETWORK mainly depends on the quality of the network transmission and the largest transmission rate USB chip supports. Different chips have different transmission speed. Different quality of the USB cable makes different transmission speed. But it can be said with certainty, Currently the transfer rate of LIMHD200i through the network or USB interface certainly can not achieve the transfer rate of the internal hard disk ide Interface. The speed 45 m / S we have mentioned refers to the transmission speed of built-in hard disk’s the IDE interface.

OK guys...LimHD200i is here. Intital impressions are good, but I'm stuck with this whole SMB thing....can somone help?

I have enabled file sharing on my pc....right click on the folder and enabled sharing. Right, back to the LimHD, I then input the ip address (ipconfig)...now what?

Ta

Kevin

OK guys...LimHD200i is here. Intital impressions are good

Ta

Kevin

Do you have any photos of the user interface?

Full review with PIC's (if someone tells me how to post them) tomorrow. Lastly, can anyone help with SMB configuration?

Regards

Kevin

Hi gendvd,

Where can we order the LimHD200i if we are in the US? Any plan to sell it at JOYO? They ship overseas.

Player sounds interesting, but having seen so many that promise the world, waiting for a full review including one that involves a ReadyNAS box...

oldpainless68,

I can try to help you with the network setup, but it would be really helpful if you posted a little more info about your setup. We could save a lot of time if we knew that plus what sorts of things you've tried already to get networking working. Or is it just the setup screen that is confusing? I took a look at the PDF of the Tomarco user manual to get an idea of what you're looking at, but screenshots from you (if possible) would be helpful too.

Side note: Gendvd, this manual is seriously lacking in examples and explanations. I think it would be very helpful to users to put out a revised version of the manual (written by someone whose native language is English) with examples of how to set up an SMB and NFS network source. You'll save yourselves a lot of tech support calls and save your customers a lot of frustration.

The manual says "When PC USB is connected normally and the NETWORK is available, at this time you can visit the network by set up the network IP and path." What would the PC USB have to do with anything? I'm going to assume they meant the ethernet port.

Oldpainless68, first, which OS are you using? You shouldn't have a problem if you are using Linux or Windows XP/2000. If you are using Vista there may be a problem, as Vista uses a new version of SMB with new options that are not completely compatible with the version of SMB the earlier versions of Windows used. Vista can work, just not out of the box - you have to make some settings changes for it to work correctly.

TEMPORARILY disable any software firewall you may be running on your system when you are ready to test, just in case it might be preventing the LimHD200i from accessing the contents of your PC.

Are you sharing your internet connection using a router? Assuming you are, you will need to know what IP address the router gave you so you can enter it on the network screen of the LimHD200i. If you are using Windows, open a command prompt and type in "ipconfig" (without the quotes). Note down what the screen tells you your IP address is. You will also need the name you gave the share when you created it.

Does the Network setup page only ask for a network path and share? Or does it ask for anything else? The path in the screenshot doesn't look right for SMB - I believe the example they give is for NFS. For SMB (with windows, anyway), the format of the share would be something like this:

\\My_IP_Address\My_Share_Name

so if your IP address was 192.168.0.2 and the share you created was called Movies, you'd enter \\192.168.0.2\Movies

Give that a try and let us know how it goes.

Julie

Hi gendvd,

Where can we order the LimHD200i if we are in the US? Any plan to sell it at JOYO? They ship overseas.
We can mail the merchandises to you. Now we retail limHD200I on ebay and www.gendvd.com. The bidding prices is $ 499.99.and fixed price : $ 599.99 . ems Express Freight is $ 125. We can install 320GB hard disk, and can copy 320 GB HD video files on your hard disk for free.Collective procurement will be a substantial discount.

Hi gendvd,

Where can we order the LimHD200i if we are in the US? Any plan to sell it at JOYO? They ship overseas.
If you buy a large amount of the products ,you can email us gendvd2000@yahoo.com

Julie

I have tried that...not working. I can ping my IP addy, but if I run cmd and type \\my_ip_address\1, it says network path not found....Ahhhh

Kevin

Sorry, forgot to add, I'm using WinXP, with a combined wireless router and modem

Thanks

Kevin

Right

Now I've come down off the roof, I'll start the review......

So, who wants to post some test files that they want reports on?

Posted um, and I'll test um

Kevin

Right

Now I've come down off the roof, I'll start the review......

So, who wants to post some test files that they want reports on?

Posted um, and I'll test um

Kevin

Start with your AVI files that you converted from MKV.
These files play as a slide-show on 4100SH with internal HDD.

Don't forget to write how you solved your connection problem.
The manual is quite vague so many people would have the same type of problems.

Right, first thing....with the latest firmware these play like a slide show too........................



But


with firmware 517


guess what


they play perfect!!!! (although it doesn't seem to pick up the dd flag, and my amp then uses ddlpIIX)....no more enocoding.

One thing I will say though....the picture quality at 720p with the converted files i've posted look amazing ---even on my 130 inch projection screen! Put it this way, they look better then the Xbox360 HD-DVD player over vga at 720p.


Regarding the network connection. Seems it was disabled a few firmware updates ago...but they are adding it back in.

The main thing for me, is that it plays the files!!....

So, Jackie - the latest firmware sucks, but 517 play these files. So you need to get to the bottom of it.

Kevin

Right, first thing....with the latest firmware these play like a slide show too........................
But
with firmware 517
guess what
they play perfect!!!!
Kevin

Didn't get it. Do you mean that with latest FW these files play as a slide-show, but with older FW they play nicely? So, they broke AVI play engine?

So, who wants to post some test files that they want reports on? Posted um, and I'll test um

Kevin, please try this 13 Mbps 1920x1080 AVCHD .m2ts file (http://192.67.78.42/sd3/sd3_hf1920_spinner.m2ts) and also this 9 Mbps 1440x1080 AVCHD .m2ts file (http://192.67.78.42/sd3/sd3_hn1440_spinner.m2ts).

Kevin, please try this 13 Mbps 1920x1080 AVCHD .m2ts file (http://192.67.78.42/sd3/sd3_hf1920_spinner.m2ts) and also this 9 Mbps 1440x1080 AVCHD .m2ts file (http://192.67.78.42/sd3/sd3_hn1440_spinner.m2ts).

I'll download now....give me a few moments

K

I've downloaded them...I'll try them, but they screw up Media play classic and media info does not like them one bit....

Back in a mo

K

Didn't get it. Do you mean that with latest FW these files play as a slide-show, but with older FW they play nicely? So, they broke AVI play engine?

Yeah....looks like it

K

Well, to give a better answer - they play with the latest firmware, but it seems to drop frames now and again, but with 517, playback is flawless (apart from the DD flag thing)

Kevin

Kevin, please try this 13 Mbps 1920x1080 AVCHD .m2ts file (http://192.67.78.42/sd3/sd3_hf1920_spinner.m2ts) and also this 9 Mbps 1440x1080 AVCHD .m2ts file (http://192.67.78.42/sd3/sd3_hn1440_spinner.m2ts).


Christ thats some Hi-Def camcorder....picture is amazing....and yeap, playback is flawless!!

Kevin

I think GenDVD just might be right, given the fact it plays the test files (and I tested whole movies that I done using the method I've posted), I see no reason why the will not crack the MKV playback thing. But to be honest, now I've installed 517, I dont really care - 15 mins to convert is no hassel.

Kevin

If anyone else wants files testing, post them here and I'll test them for you (might not be able to report back until tomorrow tho)

K

If anyone else wants files testing, post them here and I'll test them for you (might not be able to report back until tomorrow tho)

K

Can you go to Hi-Jack's ftp at
ftp://ftp.mpcclub.com
username - samples@mpcclub.com
password - samples
and get the three files from there.

Here is the direct link that works in Mozilla Firefox:
ftp://samples@mpcclub.com:samples@ftp.mpcclub.com

And if you have a digital camera and desire - could you take some pictures of GUI, please.
Thanks.

And if you have a digital camera and desire - could you take some pictures of GUI, please.
Thanks.


LOL....the GUI is pretty plain....but I didn't buy it for that... :D

K

Can you go to Hi-Jack's ftp at
ftp://ftp.mpcclub.com
username - samples@mpcclub.com
password - samples
and get the three files from there.

Here is the direct link that works in Mozilla Firefox:
ftp://samples@mpcclub.com:samples@ftp.mpcclub.com


Cannot open with either link....can you post the files here?

Kevin

Does the link
ftp://samples%40mpcclub.com:samples@ftp.mpcclub.com/Casino_Royal_h264_AC3_clip.ts
work for you?

Christ thats some Hi-Def camcorder....picture is amazing....and yeap, playback is flawless!!

That's great news! These were shot with my Panasonic HDC-SD3... pretty pleased with it so far. Looks like by adding this Tomacro box, I can move completely to tapeless, DVD-less handling of HD home video.

That's great news! These were shot with my Panasonic HDC-SD3... pretty pleased with it so far. Looks like by adding this Tomacro box, I can move completely to tapeless, DVD-less handling of HD home video.

Yes....that's my goal.....

NEWS - I can now confirm that the method I have posted for taking an MKV and remuxing into an AVI container WORKS 100%!!!!

I have watched 5 films - paused.....ffrd, rrwd....all plays in perfect sync......gotta love that quality....not more reencoding for 10 hours at a time and ending up with something not as good as the source!!

For me, personally, it's like finding the Holy Grail!!

Kevin

Does the link
ftp://samples%40mpcclub.com:samples@ftp.mpcclub.com/Casino_Royal_h264_AC3_clip.ts
work for you?

That worked....d/l now

Kevin

For me, personally, it's like finding the Holy Grail!!

Kevin

Until Tomacro adds MKV support only.

Until Tomacro adds MKV support only.

That's less of an issue now. My itch was that whatever proggy I used, or how long it took, the re-encoded file NEVER looked as good as the source. Now, don't get me wrong - that's fine if your viewing on a 42" plasma or LCD, but not good if your using a H-Def projector and 130" screen.

So, now that I know that the method I have posted works....they can take as long as they like with MKV.

However, what I would like to do, is help them with the functionality of the firmware...cus, if they get it right, this baby rocks!...

Kevin

That worked....d/l now

Kevin


I'll test the file in morning and report back.......not bringing the LimHD back into the study again this evening.....done that enough times today...lol. But, if there are more files to test, put the link on here, and I'll d/l um and test um and report back.

Time to go chill.......open a cold beer and watch a film in HD (mkv to AVI...lol)

Have fun...till tomorrow.

By the way, spread the word on the method for remuxing an MKV to AVI - post a link to this thread.

Regards and signing out

Ta Ta

Kevin

Does the link
ftp://samples%40mpcclub.com:samples@ftp.mpcclub.com/Casino_Royal_h264_AC3_clip.ts
work for you?

Russland, how was this sample made? It works perfect on my Tvix4100 unit.
I want to use the TS container and not the avi, what software was used to mux the video and sound file for the casino R clip?

None of the avi files plays smooth on the tvix4100.

Ps the spinner clips looked amazing and played flawless.

Kjell

Has anyone figured out how to get one of these for a decent price? The only place I found is through GenDVD or Ebay which is the same guy. I want one w/o the HD included. Let me know. Thanks!

Enrique

Based on the interior photos I've seen, I can't really justify $600 either, and I don't want to buy a hard drive full of illegal movies. I've talked to two wholesalers in China, and based on the prices they quoted, I think a group buy could be put together for an amount close to $300 (without hard drive), at least for those of us in the U.S. I would be willing to coordinate the purchase after I get a unit myself and confirm that it's going to satisfy folks.

Russland, how was this sample made? It works perfect on my Tvix4100 unit.
I want to use the TS container and not the avi, what software was used to mux the video and sound file for the casino R clip?

None of the avi files plays smooth on the tvix4100.

Ps the spinner clips looked amazing and played flawless.

Kjell

Well, this could be a problem.
First of all, I tested this clip on my TViX4100SH, FW 1.0.22 and got a silent slide-show. Also, I reported such behavior here (http://www.mpcclub.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=12514&start=15).

I don't know how that guy created this *.ts file, but I know two ways to do it - Elecard Xmuxer Pro with AVC plugin and MKV2TS (http://www.homecinema-fr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29842614&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=80f1fcf4ddb93b99275ef18cfeb7b0aa) tool.

The bad news is that your 4100SH probably plays this file flawlessly because you stream from SATA and I stream from USB (though my external HDD is quite fast).
I would like you to list all the settings that you use to play this file without problems:
1) Device - TViX4100SH
2) Firmware -
3) Way of streaming - SATA/USB/NFS/SMB (try different if you can)
4) Device connection to Video/Audio output - HDMI/RCA/S-Video/Coaxial, etc

About MKV -> TS conversion.
I now use MKV2TS and it requires pre-installed Elecard XMuxer Pro. The files I convert seem OK for me but others experienced audio-out-of-sync problem.
MKV to AVI didn't work out for me either - 4100SH played either as a slide-show or didn't play at all.

TSRemux (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/TsRemux) developer started working on MKV->TS conversion as well and his ETA was in two weeks when Kevin asked (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1016584#post1016584) him recently.

Thanks.

I've talked to two wholesalers in China, and based on the prices they quoted, I think a group buy could be put together for an amount close to $300 (without hard drive), at least for those of us in the U.S. I would be willing to coordinate the purchase after I get a unit myself and confirm that it's going to satisfy folks.


what minimum order?

For Kevin
Hello Kevin, please look at this for LimHD200i Audio Setup

http://www.gendvd.com/images/limhd200isetup.jpg

SPDIF is a standard interface agreement, short for the SONY/PHILIPS Digital Interface
Format. limHD200i supports interfaces of optical cable and coaxial cable and transfer the digital audio signals through SPDIF.

SPDIF audio setup has two options: DPCM and Encoded Digital

DPCM: ( Differential Pulse Code Modulation), is a kind of digital stereo signal that can be recognized by most of the devices. Please select this option if you do not have any devices such as
decoders/AV amplifiers to decode the Dolby Digital and DTS signals.

Encoded Digital: Choosing this option, you can directly output the digital streams from the media files without any conversion. These digital streams later will be decoded by the outer decoders/AV amplifiers

Notice: This option has no effects to the Analog Audio Output.

Speakers Out

It is the second setup option following the SPDIF options

Speaks Out: has two options:

2 Channels: Left and Right Channel, suit for relative Analog Audio Out.

5.1 Channels：Use 5.1 Channels,, you will obtain dynamic and vivid music effects if you connect the suitable stereos.

Hello everybody here, if some friends need to either download newer firmware or English manual for LimHD200i, please go to our website http://www.gendvd.com/service.asp#software

Just a quick question - How do I insert pics?

Kevin

Hello Kevin , AVS just offer links for pics which you want to insert, if you haven't free host space, please email us. we can make links for your pics.

Based on the interior photos I've seen, I can't really justify $600 either, and I don't want to buy a hard drive full of illegal movies. I've talked to two wholesalers in China, and based on the prices they quoted, I think a group buy could be put together for an amount close to $300 (without hard drive), at least for those of us in the U.S. I would be willing to coordinate the purchase after I get a unit myself and confirm that it's going to satisfy folks.

Count me in if you work a deal on this.

Has anyone figured out how to get one of these for a decent price? The only place I found is through GenDVD or Ebay which is the same guy. I want one w/o the HD included. Let me know. Thanks!

Enrique
Hello friends ! Please email us gendvd2000@yahoo.com.We are sure that the goods will meet your requerments,and price is fair and we look forward to your order. :)

Based on the interior photos I've seen, I can't really justify $600 either, and I don't want to buy a hard drive full of illegal movies. I've talked to two wholesalers in China, and based on the prices they quoted, I think a group buy could be put together for an amount close to $300 (without hard drive), at least for those of us in the U.S. I would be willing to coordinate the purchase after I get a unit myself and confirm that it's going to satisfy folks.
Hello! We will be delighted to discuss the price and your demonds through E-mail gendvd2000@yahoo.com.

Hello, everybody, you can choose to buy the productcs without hard disk as well as the downloading movies in accordance to your demonds. The price will be much cheaper. Collective procurement will be a substantial discount. If you want to know more about our products or price please email us gendvd2000@yahoo.com. We are glad to have the opportunity of answering you.

hi, gendvd,
I am Looking forward to the latest lim HD200i FW upgrade.

GenDVD

As I have reported, firmware 531 does not play smoothly the mkv to AVI files that I have posted. Firmware 531, more often than not, does not detect the ac3 flag in video files.

Firmware 517, plays the mkv to avi files fine, but stuggles to pick up the ac3 flag in avi files. Also, with 517, when playing wmv files the sound pops now and again.

Everything else plays fine :D

Also, as I reported, some avi files have problems with FF

Lastly, the LAN and SMB sharing needs to be re-enabled.

Can you feed this into Tomacro to ensure the new firmware fixes these. Get these fixed, and you have one cracking HD player!!!

Regards

Kevin

Oh, one last question Jackie. Can you downgrade the LimHD to a previous version of the firmware?

Regards

Kevin

Oh, one last question Jackie. Can you downgrade the LimHD to a previous version of the firmware?

Regards

Kevin

Hello Kevin , we will provide 0531, 0517 firmware on gendvd.com in the next couple of hours, but we suggest that you had better to wait the newest firmware in this Friday. Because of the Tomacro engineer announce the newest firmware will resolve current all of problems except MKV.

Regards

Jackie

Hello Kevin , we will provide 0531, 0517 firmware on gendvd.com in the next couple of hours, but we suggest that you had better to wait the newest firmware in this Friday. Because of the Tomacro engineer announce the newest firmware will resolve current all of problems except MKV.

Regards

Jackie

Jackie

In that case, from here on in, I will be your independent tester for the AVS forum. Look forward to Friday - Let me know as soon as it's out.

Regards

Kevin

Does the link
ftp://samples%40mpcclub.com:samples@ftp.mpcclub.com/Casino_Royal_h264_AC3_clip.ts
work for you?


Russland - Playback was flawless.

Kevin

Anyone with more test files?...Post um and I'll report back

GenDVD

As I have reported, firmware 531 does not play smoothly the mkv to AVI files that I have posted. Firmware 531, more often than not, does not detect the ac3 flag in video files.

Firmware 517, plays the mkv to avi files fine, but stuggles to pick up the ac3 flag in avi files. Also, with 517, when playing wmv files the sound pops now and again.

Everything else plays fine :D

Also, as I reported, some avi files have problems with FF

Lastly, the LAN and SMB sharing needs to be re-enabled.

Can you feed this into Tomacro to ensure the new firmware fixes these. Get these fixed, and you have one cracking HD player!!!

Regards

Kevin

Hello Kevin, Just now we have forwarded your message to the Tomacro engineer.

hi, gendvd,
I am Looking forward to the latest lim HD200i FW upgrade.
Let us wait and see. :)

Ok...just finished another test:

720p DTS H.264 MKV to 720p DTS H.264 AVI (using the method I've posted) and it plays flawless, in sync with stunning picture and sound quality. The LimHD also picks up the DTS flag in the AVI and outputs DTS. So, it picks up a DTS flag in AVI, now Tomacro need to add the line in the firmware to pick up an AC3 flag in AVI, and make sure it looks for either a DTS or AC3 flag in every video format.

Kevin

:) ;) :D



Test Rig:

LimHD200i (firmware v0517)
HDMI output 720p
Coax

Hitachi PJ-TX200 HD projector
Pioneer THX 7.1 VSX-1015
Mission 7.1 M3 Series

OK....finished another test:

1080p MKV to 1080p AVI (using method I've posted) - No go. Plays like a slideshow.

The odd thing is that I have 1080p H.264 DTS TS files and they play fine. I suspect it's something to do with the way MKV's are encoded.


Kevin

Test Rig:

LimHD200i (firmware v0517)
HDMI output 720p
Coax

Hitachi PJ-TX200 HD projector
Pioneer THX 7.1 VSX-1015
Mission 7.1 M3 Series

Jackie

In the lastest firmware (taking the best bit's from 0517 I hope) will it address WMV playback with 5.1 surround (rather than outputting stereo), info below:

From MediaInfo

Audio
Codec : WMA3
Codec/Info : Windows Media Audio 3
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
WMENC_AUDIO_SURROUND : -3
WMENC_AUDIO_CENTER_M : -3
WMENC_AUDIO_SUBWOOFE : -12
VBR Peak : 11528950
Buffer Average : 425910

From Gspot

Aud: DeviceConformanceTemplate:M1
Aud:WM/WMADRCPeakReference:18940
Aud:WM/WMADRCPeakTarget:18940
Aud:WM/WMADRCAverageReference:2645
Aud:WM/WMADRCAverageTarget:2645
Aud:Windows Media Audio 10 Professional
Aud:384 kbps, 48 kHz, 5.1 channel 24 bit (A/V) 1-pass CBR


The firmware will need to pick these flags up and output as dolby digital 5.1

Hope that helps.

Kevin

I got this e-mail directly from TOMACRO.

From: maggie [mailto:info002]
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:00 PM
To:Enrique
Subject: limHD200i
Importance: High


Dear Mr. Enrique Martinez:

Thanks for your attention to our products. I am Maggie, Tomacro's International Sales Manager for American & Oceanian area.

With powerful HD functions and fashionable design, limHD200i now has won a very big market in China. A HD Media Player Reciews on magazine DigiHouse China, a very influential digital products magazine in China, limHD200i got Best Function Award. It is obvious that limHD200i has won a very good reputation in China.

At present, our company is developing agents worldwide. But until now, we have no agents in the U.S. yet. So limHD200i is not available in America now. I suggest you buy it directly from us before we set agents in America and many customers (Europeans) has already bought limHD200i directly from us .They pay us the money by T/T, and we send limHD200i to them by DHL/TNT.

The retail price for 1-5 units is US$499(with HDD320G), I hope you would like it.
TKS!
Looking forward to your quick reply.


Best regards,
Maggie

----
Shenzhen TOMACRO Technology Co., Ltd.
Address: Room 308 Languang Building Unit C,Zhenhua Road,Shenzhen,Guangdong,China
Phone∶+86-755-61339388/61339389
Fax: +86-755-61339389
P.C.: 518031]

Thanks,
Enrique

I got this e-mail directly from TOMACRO.

From: maggie [mailto:info002]
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:00 PM
To:Enrique
Subject: limHD200i
Importance: High


Dear Mr. Enrique Martinez:

Thanks for your attention to our products. I am Maggie, Tomacro's International Sales Manager for American & Oceanian area.

With powerful HD functions and fashionable design, limHD200i now has won a very big market in China. A HD Media Player Reciews on magazine DigiHouse China, a very influential digital products magazine in China, limHD200i got Best Function Award. It is obvious that limHD200i has won a very good reputation in China.

At present, our company is developing agents worldwide. But until now, we have no agents in the U.S. yet. So limHD200i is not available in America now. I suggest you buy it directly from us before we set agents in America and many customers (Europeans) has already bought limHD200i directly from us .They pay us the money by T/T, and we send limHD200i to them by DHL/TNT.

The retail price for 1-5 units is US$499(with HDD320G), I hope you would like it.
TKS!
Looking forward to your quick reply.


Best regards,
Maggie

----
Shenzhen TOMACRO Technology Co., Ltd.
Address: Room 308 Languang Building Unit C,Zhenhua Road,Shenzhen,Guangdong,China
Phone∶+86-755-61339388/61339389
Fax: +86-755-61339389
P.C.: 518031]

Thanks,
Enrique


I'd go through GenDVD....She is an agent of theirs, and I suspect will at least be able to match the price, plus I know Jackie delivers.

Kevin

How do you think these things will do in terms of sales? I have the opportunity to become a retailer of these units but I'm not doing it if the TVIX is a better player.

Would you guys pay $339+ domestic shipping (U.S.) for ones without a hard drive?

B.

How do you think these things will do in terms of sales? I have the opportunity to become a retailer of these units but I'm not doing it if the TVIX is a better player.

Would you guys pay $339+ domestic shipping (U.S.) for ones without a hard drive?

B.

I would for sure. For me it's really about which is going to support the MKV container with smooth playback.

I'm impressed with the video capabilities, but no flac = no sale for me. If they added that, I'd seriously consider it.

Kevin, did your limHD200i come with an appropriate AC mains power adapter, or did you need to round one up yourself?

A note to Maggie and others working on marketing this in the U.S.... this device seriously needs a more stylish name for sale in English-speaking regions. The prefix lim seems short for "limited" or "limitation" and the lowercase L is ambiguous with a sans-serif letter I (could affect searches). Tvix products have non-ambiguous but rather bland names. An example of a name that works well: HD Media Box (but already taken by PixelMagic Systems). A name that doesn't work: Happy Golden Super Clipper (sounds like a low-cost haircutting franchise). Americans seem to get more fired up over tough-sounding, full throttle, high octane names like "Media Blaster", "Digital Media Detonator", "Movie Magnum 2000XXL". Those are a bit extreme, but something like "HD Mediaplex" could work...

I would like you to list all the settings that you use to play this file without problems:
1) Device - TViX4100SH
2) Firmware -
3) Way of streaming - SATA/USB/NFS/SMB (try different if you can)
4) Device connection to Video/Audio output - HDMI/RCA/S-Video/Coaxial, etc



2 : 1.022
3: SATA internal disk.
4: HDMI, and component.

Kjell

How do you think these things will do in terms of sales? I have the opportunity to become a retailer of these units but I'm not doing it if the TVIX is a better player.

Would you guys pay $339+ domestic shipping (U.S.) for ones without a hard drive?

B.

I would definitely buy it. Is it difficult to add our own hard drives?

Please let us know when you have them available.

Kevin, did your limHD200i come with an appropriate AC mains power adapter, or did you need to round one up yourself?

A note to Maggie and others working on marketing this in the U.S.... this device seriously needs a more stylish name for sale in English-speaking regions. The prefix lim seems short for "limited" or "limitation" and the lowercase L is ambiguous with a sans-serif letter I (could affect searches).....

I totally agree.

I have no idea of why they named the product limHD200i? They should put the company name "YuMai (宇脉)" in the product name, for example, "YuMai HD Media Center". YuMai (宇脉） means "the pulse of the universe" in Chinese, which is quite awesome as a brand name.

Russland - Playback was flawless.

Kevin

Anyone with more test files?...Post um and I'll report back

Can it play the following 1080p H.264 file
http://images.apple.com/movies/us/hd_gallery/gl1800/1080p/nin_m1080p.mov

Tvix has major problems playing it.

Would you guys pay $339+ domestic shipping (U.S.) for ones without a hard drive?

Sounds OK, but with that big of a markup, I would expect a 90 day warranty, 14 day return/exchange policy, and maybe a more comprehensive manual. At $350+, I'd expect to be able to get limited technical support from the retailer. At the $499 MSRP or Gendvd's $599, gosh... it ought to come with a bevy of beauties to help me install it! I don't see how those prices are going to fly with Tvix as a direct competitor.

I would definitely buy it. Is it difficult to add our own hard drives?

Please let us know when you have them available.
It is very convenient to add your hard drives with ide interface.

Sounds OK, but with that big of a markup, I would expect a 90 day warranty, 14 day return/exchange policy, and maybe a more comprehensive manual. At $350+, I'd expect to be able to get limited technical support from the retailer. At the $499 MSRP or Gendvd's $599, gosh... it ought to come with a bevy of beauties to help me install it! I don't see how those prices are going to fly with Tvix as a direct competitor.
Comparing with Tvix, limHD200I has much bigger rate and can support H264.

Our mailing cost are much lower. You can compute mailing cost accoding to the Volume and weight on TNT by yourself. Your will find how favorable our price is. If you want to pay the mailing fee by youself after you receive the goods. You can also buy the products with HD from us on retail price$499 which does not include the mailing fee.

Can it play the following 1080p H.264 file
http://images.apple.com/movies/us/hd_gallery/gl1800/1080p/nin_m1080p.mov

Tvix has major problems playing it.

I'll download and test...

Kevin

Our mailing cost are much lower. You can compute mailing cost accoding to the Volume and weight on TNT by yourself. Your will find how favorable our price is. If you want to pay the mailing fee by youself after you receive the goods. You can also buy the products with HD from us on retail price$499 which does not include the mailing fee.

Jackie

Why dont you provide the board with a couple of prices, without Hard Drives (will be cheaper for shipping too)

1-3 units
10 units
20 units

Regards

Kevin

I'm impressed with the video capabilities, but no flac = no sale for me. If they added that, I'd seriously consider it.

Somone post a flac file and I'll test if you like.

Kevin

Explanation of limHD200i:

lim is a mathematical symbol in limit formula lim(sinX/X) = 1(X->0)
lim(HD) = endless pursure for high definition products

limHD stands for series
200i stands for model

It aslo reflects TOMACRO's innovation spirit and persistence in making the best High-Definition products.

Can it play the following 1080p H.264 file
http://images.apple.com/movies/us/hd_gallery/gl1800/1080p/nin_m1080p.mov

Tvix has major problems playing it.
I have tested the file. The machine can play it while there is a stop Fok when it plays for one minute. But if you firstly use the timer to choose the fragment depenging on time. You will see it plays fluently. It think the large rate of the file cause this problem. After the new firmware upgrade ,the problem will be solved.

I have tested the file. The machine can play it while there is a stop Fok when it plays for one minute. But if you firstly use the timer to choose the fragment depenging on time. You will see it plays fluently. It think the large rate of the file cause this problem. After the new firmware upgrade ,the problem will be solved.

I can confirm that the files plays flawless upto 1min 04 sec's, then go's a little slow mo and you lose audio....seems strange why it would do that..do they change audio or maybe the file has issues at 01:04.....why not post another 1080p MOV file that you have problems with?

Kevin

Comparing with Tvix, limHD200I has much bigger rate and can support H264.
Can you explain how the limHD200I can support a bigger bitrate while using the same Sigma Designs chip? Also I'm wondering how the limHD200I can playback Blu-Ray und HD-DVD content fluidly because I always thought that the 8623 chip wouldn't be capable of doing that. Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying that I don't believe you. I'd just like to have some technical explanation about why the limHD200I may be able to do things which the chip it uses was not really specced for. Thanks!

Can you explain how the limHD200I can support a bigger bitrate while using the same Sigma Designs chip? Also I'm wondering how the limHD200I can playback Blu-Ray und HD-DVD content fluidly because I always thought that the 8623 chip wouldn't be capable of doing that. Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying that I don't believe you. I'd just like to have some technical explanation about why the limHD200I may be able to do things which the chip it uses was not really specced for. Thanks!

Madshi

I'm completely not technical, but I can say it plays H.264 1080p ts files flawless

Kevin

I'm completely not technical, but I can say it plays H.264 1080p ts files flawless
Thanks. Have you been able to test some high bitrate Blu-Ray H.264 files yet?

Thanks. Have you been able to test some high bitrate Blu-Ray H.264 files yet?

No, but if you post a link (s) I'll test them and report back.

Kevin

Can you explain how the limHD200I can support a bigger bitrate while using the same Sigma Designs chip? Also I'm wondering how the limHD200I can playback Blu-Ray und HD-DVD content fluidly because I always thought that the 8623 chip wouldn't be capable of doing that. Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying that I don't believe you. I'd just like to have some technical explanation about why the limHD200I may be able to do things which the chip it uses was not really specced for. Thanks!
Overclocking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overclocking)

No, but if you post a link (s) I'll test them and report back.
Thank you! Can you try some of these for a start?

http://www.drfoster.f2s.com/trailers_hd-dvd.shtml

These are VC-1, though. I'll try to find some Blu-Ray h264 trailers for you to test.

Overclocking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overclocking)
Are you guessing? If the limHD200i actually uses overclocking, how good is long time stability and fan noise? Does the limHD200i have a fan, btw?

Thank you! Can you try some of these for a start?

http://www.drfoster.f2s.com/trailers_hd-dvd.shtml

These are VC-1, though. I'll try to find some Blu-Ray h264 trailers for you to test.

OK, I'll d/l a couple of 1080p ones and report back

Kevin

Are you guessing? If the limHD200i actually uses overclocking, how good is long time stability and fan noise? Does the limHD200i have a fan, btw?

No fan, as the entire build is alloy. I've had it running all day and does not get hot.

Kevin

No fan, as the entire build is alloy. I've had it running all day and does not get hot.
Thanks. No fan and cool running is a big plus in my opinion.

Thanks. No fan and cool running is a big plus in my opinion.

Yeah....I WAS using my 360 for media streaming.....christ noisy or what!!


Oh...and the LimHD is so LOUD....that click of the hard disk as you press the on button!!....lol

Kevin

Thank you! Can you try some of these for a start?

http://www.drfoster.f2s.com/trailers_hd-dvd.shtml

These are VC-1, though. I'll try to find some Blu-Ray h264 trailers for you to test.


Ok,

Tested a few of the 1080p files - playback flawless (only the occasional audio pop issue with some WMV files, as repoted to GenDVD on page 12 of this thread)

We could do with some high bit rate files to test. So far I've tested upto 1080p H.264 & Mpeg-2 at 25mbps.


Kevin



Test Rig:

LimHD200i (firmware v0517)
HDMI output 720p
Coax

Hitachi PJ-TX200 HD projector
Pioneer THX 7.1 VSX-1015
Mission 7.1 M3 Series

Seems that limHD200i is supermute, with no fan in it but a radiator to reduce temperature. :eek: ??

Is that true? ;)

Tomacro says many magazines and online HD fans have made reviews about limHD200i . Wish i can find an English version.

Anyone knows DigiHouse China ??

Seems that limHD200i is supermute, with no fan in it but a radiator to reduce temperature. :eek: ??

Is that true? ;)

Tomacro says many magazines and online HD fans have made reviews about limHD200i . Wish i can find an English version.

Anyone knows DigiHouse China ??

Like I said the entire build is alloy (apart from the very top bit), so it does not get hot.

Kevin

Illustrated limHD200i

http://www.gendvd.com/images/490179.jpg
Dimension 260mm*240mm*70mm

LimHD200i was designed to set up structure. After omitting the DVD-Rom drive, its volume becomes much smaller than the predecessor like an external hard disk box. The Power on key and the operation keys are all arranged at the top and function keys can complete a full operation. Using external AC power adapter similar to the one of Notebook Computer further reduces the size of the fuselage. Accessories also include high-quality HDMI and USB connection cable.
In the actual use, this HDMI cable can be guaranteed to output 1080P to HD-television. Using other cable will bring screen black issues.


http://www.gendvd.com/images/490183.jpg
Top Components
http://www.gendvd.com/images/490185.jpg
HDMI Cable
http://www.gendvd.com/images/490193.jpg
Rear Panel

Interface is advanced. HDMI outputted by digital audio and video HDMI is essential, it can connected with 1080P 50/60Hz signal outputted by Full HD Flat TV or connected to the DVI LCD interface through HDMI - DVI switch interface. VGA interface not only can be connected to displays but also can achieve color output through VGA-color (RGBHV) Link adapter so that the older flat TV can also enjoy 1080i high-resolution
(VGA interface(Output YPbPr Analog Component Signals or RGB+HV Analog VGA Signals)
. Although the S-Video and AV are most widely used, if using them to watch HDTV movies, we can only enjoy low-quality results.

http://www.gendvd.com/images/490196.jpg
Mainboard
The Connectors are also of high quality. Apart from the analog sigle stereo with R + L, Audio part is also equipped with the digital which can output SPDIF and coaxial interface。As sound track of HD movie files are often multi-channel such as DD, DTS , connecting with AV Power Amplifier can have better sound effects.

http://www.gendvd.com/images/490319.jpg
Romote Controller

LimHD200i equipped with a remote-control device with good size, color matching with the fuselage, the keys rather hard, Touching activated relatively clear. However remote somewhat has narrow perspective, we need to directly point to the fuselage receiving window, which maybe caused by the deeper installation of infrared receiver.

http://www.gendvd.com/images/490349.jpg
Bottom Components

LimHD200i abolish the drive installation spaces. From my years of experience, most of the network downloaded film is not worth to store in DVD-Disc. Moreover, the drive speed, noise and the transferring operation affect our mood and enjoyment. LimHD200i install a hard disk installation spaces. The current models can only match with the hard disks with IDE interface. The installation of the hard drive is not a complex operation and you need not often disassemble and assemble. You can follow these steps:


http://www.gendvd.com/images/490353.jpg
Bottom Components
http://www.gendvd.com/images/490355.jpg
Bottom Components
http://www.gendvd.com/images/490358.jpg
Bottom Components

And the installation and replacement of hard disk are not complicated, especially for Diy, is a minor matter. New hard disk can be formatting in the system. Facing dozens of GB High Definition movies, we should choose NTFS format, the entire hard disk can be divided into a partition.

http://www.gendvd.com/images/490360.jpg
Mainboard
http://www.gendvd.com/images/490364.jpg
sil 1930 HDMI output chip
http://www.gendvd.com/images/490366.jpg
128M Memory
http://www.gendvd.com/images/490368.jpg
VIA VT6212 USB 2.0 Control chip
http://www.gendvd.com/images/490370.jpg
rtl8100 Network card chip
http://www.gendvd.com/images/490372.jpg
16M flash memory
http://www.gendvd.com/images/490374.jpg
VFD Screen

From Tomacro:

Dear Mr. Enrique Martinez:

Thanks for your quick reply.

You can directly buy limHD200i from or company . One unit limHD200i with a HDD320G is US$499, a HDD320G sells at US$87, so limHD200i without HDD320G is US$412.

The shipping fees from Shenzhen to U.S. is $54(EMS). So the price for limHD200i with HDD320G is $553(including shipping fees); $466 without HDD.

At present, there is no such HD HDD media player supporting MKV in the world. The new generation limHD200i supporting MKV will probably come out in early August. limHD200i has its own advantages, say, 1080p, VC-1, H.264, and its decoding capability is really breathtaking.Plus, it is super mute, we insert no fan in the player but a radiator to lower the temperature of the player.


Thanks for your interest.
Looking forward to your early reply.

Best regards,
Maggie

I'm confirming if this "New Generation" is going to be new hardware or just a firmware update.

Thanks,
Enrique

I can confirm that the files plays flawless upto 1min 04 sec's, then go's a little slow mo and you lose audio....seems strange why it would do that..do they change audio or maybe the file has issues at 01:04.....why not post another 1080p MOV file that you have problems with?

Kevin

That's what the Tvix does. I was curious if the Tomacro was able to handle the file any better. The file plays on my computer but the new H.264 streamers can't seem to handle it.

On a lot of H.264 files, the Tvix will start skipping and lose audio. I tried to watch Lawrence of Arabia (H.264) on the Tvix a few days ago and the Tvix failed miserably. It started stuttering and dropped the audio after only 2 seconds! Needless to say I was not a happy camper. Like others, I'm looking for a streamer that can reliably handle H.264 files.

I'm curious: Are you playing your test clips from the hard drive? Does the Tomacro support nfs? If so, can Tomacro play the various test clips flawlessly over nfs too?

Thanks.

Tested a few of the 1080p files - playback flawless (only the occasional audio pop issue with some WMV files, as repoted to GenDVD on page 12 of this thread) We could do with some high bit rate files to test. So far I've tested upto 1080p H.264 & Mpeg-2 at 25mbps.
Kevin, are you playing all those files from internal HDD? After the disappointment of Tvix 4100, I'm slightly interested in limHD200, but it has to play H.264 1080p flawlessly over NFS. I don't need/want an internal HDD.

Heh, didn't read all the way to end of thread; Johnny asked the same thing.

Kevin, are you playing all those files from internal HDD? After the disappointment of Tvix 4100, I'm slightly interested in limHD200, but it has to play H.264 1080p flawlessly over NFS. I don't need/want an internal HDD.

Heh, didn't read all the way to end of thread; Johnny asked the same thing.

Hi

so far all files have been tested off the local hard drive

Kevin

From Tomacro:

Dear Mr. Enrique Martinez:

Thanks for your quick reply.

You can directly buy limHD200i from or company . One unit limHD200i with a HDD320G is US$499, a HDD320G sells at US$87, so limHD200i without HDD320G is US$412.

The shipping fees from Shenzhen to U.S. is $54(EMS). So the price for limHD200i with HDD320G is $553(including shipping fees); $466 without HDD.

At present, there is no such HD HDD media player supporting MKV in the world. The new generation limHD200i supporting MKV will probably come out in early August. limHD200i has its own advantages, say, 1080p, VC-1, H.264, and its decoding capability is really breathtaking.Plus, it is super mute, we insert no fan in the player but a radiator to lower the temperature of the player.


Thanks for your interest.
Looking forward to your early reply.

Best regards,
Maggie

I'm confirming if this "New Generation" is going to be new hardware or just a firmware update.

Thanks,
Enrique

I think you'll find, they have already said - firmware

Kevin

When my unit gets here, I'll test extensively using NFS. I already have a powerline Ethernet link ready to go using Linksys PLE200 modules, getting about 70 Mbps.

When my unit gets here, I'll test extensively using NFS. I already have a powerline Ethernet link ready to go using Linksys PLE200 modules, getting about 70 Mbps.
Thanks Mark, looking forward to your report.

Can you explain how the limHD200I can support a bigger bitrate while using the same Sigma Designs chip? Also I'm wondering how the limHD200I can playback Blu-Ray und HD-DVD content fluidly because I always thought that the 8623 chip wouldn't be capable of doing that. Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying that I don't believe you. I'd just like to have some technical explanation about why the limHD200I may be able to do things which the chip it uses was not really specced for. Thanks!
Tomacro made great efforts and have developed out the potentials of 8623 chip. If you have some bigger rate files,please post links to here and we can to test them for you. At here we posted some screenshot of bigger bitrate files we had tested.
http://www.gendvd.com/images/490394.jpg

Blu-Ray H264 remux Open Season

http://www.gendvd.com/images/490398.jpg

VC1 HD DVD remux Aeon Flux

http://www.gendvd.com/images/490396.jpg

VC1 HD DVD The Mummy Returns

http://www.gendvd.com/images/490388.jpg

VC-1 HD DVD remux BBC Planet Earth

Kevin, are you playing all those files from internal HDD? After the disappointment of Tvix 4100, I'm slightly interested in limHD200, but it has to play H.264 1080p flawlessly over NFS. I don't need/want an internal HDD.

Heh, didn't read all the way to end of thread; Johnny asked the same thing.

On the current firmware, the lan is disabled - should be working tho in the next firmware release - Today?

Kevin

Jackie

Is the new firmware due out today? Post it here when it's out and i'll run the tests.

Kevin

When my unit gets here, I'll test extensively using NFS. I already have a powerline Ethernet link ready to go using Linksys PLE200 modules, getting about 70 Mbps.

I'm using powerline too...getting between 70-83 Mbps

Kevin

On the current firmware, the lan is disabled - should be working tho in the next firmware release - Today?

Kevin

Yes you are right, Tomacro engineer announced the powerful firmware will be released today, we are expecting to get it in this evening.
Some friends expect that new firmware can support higher bitrate network delivery, but I don't . Because of higher bitrate network delivery not only depend on ethernet cable quality, delivery distance, still need to consider network environment and equipment, etc.

Jackie

Is the new firmware due out today? Post it here when it's out and i'll run the tests.

Kevin

Yes, I will post it here ASAP if I got

Well, well, well! I just got my tvix M-4100SH a week ago.. and now this! Looks like I'm returning it and getting myself a limHD instead!

Just two questions:

1. Does it play ISO files as if it was a regular DVD? (with menus, angles, and subtitles)
2. Does it remember where it got to in a media file if one stops it, so they can be easily resumed? (And if the answer to question 1 was "yes" - does it remember the last position for DVDs aswell?) ..like the tvix does.

Thanks for your flood of info in this forum - I love it!

Well, well, well! I just got my tvix M-4100SH a week ago.. and now this! Looks like I'm returning it and getting myself a limHD instead!

Just two questions:

1. Does it play ISO files as if it was a regular DVD? (with menus, angles, and subtitles)
2. Does it remember where it got to in a media file if one stops it, so they can be easily resumed? (And if the answer to question 1 was "yes" - does it remember the last position for DVDs aswell?) ..like the tvix does.

Thanks for your flood of info in this forum - I love it!

I have been unable to play DVD ISO files (dvddecrypter >ISO). I don't know if I did something wrong, or it's not suppoted, but there is a new version of the firmware due out today, so I'll check (Jackie - your view?)

It will play VOB's etc, but I dont think it remembers the position of last play.

Me, I just want it for Hi-Def 720p and 1080p material.

Hope that helps

Kevin

It helps - but sadly it was not what I wanted to hear ;) Hmm. Maybe I should keep my tvix and buy the tomacro later when the firmware is mature.

Thanks a big bunch!

It helps - but sadly it was not what I wanted to hear ;) Hmm. Maybe I should keep my tvix and buy the tomacro later when the firmware is mature.

Thanks a big bunch!

can your Tvix play that?

can your Tvix play that?

Yup, ..haven't tested angles though.

Yup, ..haven't tested angles though.

Just a quick question....why fill your hard drive with >9gig standard def files?

Not being rude, just asking.


Kevin

It helps - but sadly it was not what I wanted to hear ;) Hmm. Maybe I should keep my tvix and buy the tomacro later when the firmware is mature.

Thanks a big bunch!

Quote from an interview on Hi-Jacks site:

"Hi-Jack: Does it support SMB and DVD ISO streaming from NAS?
Fan Zhang: SMB-this week (upgrade the FW) DVD ISO-in a few days"

Kevin

Just a quick question....why fill your hard drive with >9gig standard def files?

Not being rude, just asking.


Kevin

:) Well, I have hundreds and hundreds of DVDs, and don't like to have them standing around filling up the place. I already have a server with terabytes of HDD space that I've put my DVD isos on. Easy access to all my DVDs without having to look at the mess and dusting off covers.
Some might say it's an expensive luxury. But well - it's a luxury that makes me happy ;)
Of course, whenever I get a highdef version of a movie, I replace the DVD version.

:) Well, I have hundreds and hundreds of DVDs, and don't like to have them standing around filling up the place. I already have a server with terabytes of HDD space that I've put my DVD isos on. Easy access to all my DVDs without having to look at the mess and dusting off covers.
Some might say it's an expensive luxury. But well - it's a luxury that makes me happy ;)
Of course, whenever I get a highdef version of a movie, I replace the DVD version.


Thanks, I can see your point - I'd love to get rid of all my DVD's and have them stored on a network. But, trying to rip and load over 500....well....not for me.

Re the DVD-iso....well that's comming in a few days.

Kevin

Thanks Kevin!

And moonring, I just checked if angles works on the M-4100SH - yes, works perfectly. Oh yeah, and to clarify on the bookmarks held on the mediafiles - it only remembers the positions of the last 8 files (excluding the bookmarks of the DVDs, which is probably also 8).

---Edit: Nope, it only remembers the position of the DVD you watched last. And the last 8 files.

Cheers

now......just gotta get my mits on this new firmware......here boy!.... ;)

Quote from an interview on Hi-Jacks site:

"Hi-Jack: Does it support SMB and DVD ISO streaming from NAS?
Fan Zhang: SMB-this week (upgrade the FW) DVD ISO-in a few days"

Kevin

I like SMB~ :eek: :cool:

hey, the guy upstairs, :p did you get the new firmware?
How was the results?

I am eager to know that. just some problems with tomacro's website? I didn't see any new FW published :mad: , but I will try tomorrow.

DVD ISO support would be deep exciting :D

thanks

Thanks Kevin!

And moonring, I just checked if angles works on the M-4100SH - yes, works perfectly. Oh yeah, and to clarify on the bookmarks held on the mediafiles - it only remembers the positions of the last 8 files (excluding the bookmarks of the DVDs, which is probably also 8).

Cheers
cool again.

To tell you the secret,
I also like M-4100, pity that its casing is plastic. I disike plastic, I like metal. to make the thing just like a king :D maybe queen or princess if there are accidents of the parents? :rolleyes:

~wow, go back to my topic. maybe 5100 is much better than 4100. because it is also metal. Pity again~too too 222222expensive. I am afraid I have to wait for quite a long time. :D

anyway,brew, you are a nice man :D or boy~

thanks.

I like SMB~ :eek: :cool:

hey, the guy upstairs, :p did you get the new firmware?
How was the results?

I am eager to know that. just some problems with tomacro's website? I didn't see any new FW published :mad: , but I will try tomorrow.

DVD ISO support would be deep exciting :D

thanks

Not yet :(

As soon as it's out, I'll test and report back :D

Kevin

maybe 5100 is much better than 4100. because it is also metal.

As far as I know there's -no- difference. Same hardware inside the boxes. I just picked the 4100SH because I liked the design better.

..but we're moving off topic, gooooo Tomacro! :)

Can anybody give limHD advantages over TViX 4100/5100 except the price?

Can anybody give limHD advantages over TViX 4100/5100 except the price?

Well, seems to play files that the TViX can't......and for me, that's what it's about, rather than a price issue....if you know what I mean. Also, I can't comment on the TViX, but the picture quality of 720p and 1080p material is fantastic. As a comparision, I would give the Xbox360 HD-DVD 720p over VGA (with VGA fix) about a 6, and the LimHD about a 9, that's the difference, IMO.

Kevin

And before anyone says "a 9, why not a 10", it's because, IMO, a 10 is a perfect - I don't think we will ever see perfect, cus it can always be improved.

Kevin

limHD200i VS TVIX 4100SH


I came to visit my friend last night for the appointment, together with my limHD200i (I got a FW for testing from Tomacro through another friend). He just bought a Tvix4100SH a few days ago and wanna make a simple comparison with limHD200i. I am just back from his house, forwarding this new thread to post a general review.

1. Decoding capability (53 movie pieces was tested, with 46'' Sony TV DENON AV receiver)

limHD200i --- All play flawless except for 2 of them had no audio, 1 popup playback. Gain upon beautiful decoding capability.

Tvix4100SH – Almost 2/5 of the movies had slacks(click…click…click…), intermittent playback. No flattering of this.

2. Subtitle

limHD200i --- Some movie subtitles under 1080p looked better using matrix 24 than matrix 16 (a little bit distortion occurs), while under 1080i, the two both had normal display.

Tvix4100SH – mellow fonts, but almost half had asynchronous subtitles， some even no display.

3. Stability

limHD200i --- 12 workings hours, very stable, without any halts or freeze. Cool cooling system with the whole metal casing being the big radiator, keeping an advantage of no fans, no noise, and high cooling efficiency and working stability.

Tvix4100SH – Freeze 4 times. The first time- about 2 hours later, blocked by the movie; the second time-about 6 hours later, freeze while browsing the directory; the third time- about 9 hours later, freeze when forwarding; the fourth time-about 11 hours later, freeze while browsing the directory. This time we turned off the air conditioner, then there came the cooling problems. With plastic casing, only one single fan, if no inlets or outlets, it certainly couldn’t be counted as a well-built cooling system. Maybe the manufacturer realized this as this model is designed with plastic casing, fans cooling is necessary, while 2 more fans might bring bigger noises

4. Other functions
limHD200i --- not so perfect, needs FW upgrade later on
Tvix4100SH – fairy well



Well, I’d rather go to bed now. A detailed comparison might be given another day.

limHD200i VS TVIX 4100SH


I came to visit my friend last night for the appointment, together with my limHD200i (I got a FW for testing from Tomacro through another friend). He just bought a Tvix4100SH a few days ago and wanna make a simple comparison with limHD200i. I am just back from his house, forwarding this new thread to post a general review.

1. Decoding capability (53 movie pieces was tested, with 46'' Sony TV DENON AV receiver)

limHD200i --- All play flawless except for 2 of them had no audio, 1 popup playback. Gain upon beautiful decoding capability.

Tvix4100SH – Almost 2/5 of the movies had slacks(click…click…click…), intermittent playback. No flattering of this.

2. Subtitle

limHD200i --- Some movie subtitles under 1080p looked better using matrix 24 than matrix 16 (a little bit distortion occurs), while under 1080i, the two both had normal display.

Tvix4100SH – mellow fonts, but almost half had asynchronous subtitles， some even no display.

3. Stability

limHD200i --- 12 workings hours, very stable, without any halts or freeze. Cool cooling system with the whole metal casing being the big radiator, keeping an advantage of no fans, no noise, and high cooling efficiency and working stability.

Tvix4100SH – Freeze 4 times. The first time- about 2 hours later, blocked by the movie; the second time-about 6 hours later, freeze while browsing the directory; the third time- about 9 hours later, freeze when forwarding; the fourth time-about 11 hours later, freeze while browsing the directory. This time we turned off the air conditioner, then there came the cooling problems. With plastic casing, only one single fan, if no inlets or outlets, it certainly couldn’t be counted as a well-built cooling system. Maybe the manufacturer realized this as this model is designed with plastic casing, fans cooling is necessary, while 2 more fans might bring bigger noises

4. Other functions
limHD200i --- not so perfect, needs FW upgrade later on
Tvix4100SH – fairy well



Well, I’d rather go to bed now. A detailed comparison might be given another day.

Sleep well and many thanks for this. Just for future reference, it might be useful to post details about the files that were tested. Just run the file through MediaInfo and copy and paste the detail.

Kevin

limHD200i VS TVIX 4100SH
.

What were you playing (codec, file types, etc)? I haven't upgraded to the 4100, but I have a 4000 and a 5000, and both of these units operate much more efficiently than you describe the 4100.

What were you playing (codec, file types, etc)? I haven't upgraded to the 4100, but I have a 4000 and a 5000, and both of these units operate much more efficiently than you describe the 4100.

4000 & 5000: H.264 ok? VC1 ok?

Good news from friend before 2 minutes - new FW test from TOMACRO:

1. Improve more decoding capability & decoding efficiency;
2. Achieve perfect subtitle display (all resolutions, size16 & size24 front);
3. Safe update.
... ...

All the 3 points, limHD200i surpass M-4100SH (M-5100H) - ONE BIG STEP!

new FW may be released tomorrow after more testing.

Congratulate TOMACRO!

Good news from friend before 2 minutes - new FW test from TOMACRO:

1. Improve more decoding capability & decoding efficiency;
2. Achieve perfect subtitle display (all resolutions, size16 & size24 front);
3. Safe update.
... ...

All the 3 points, limHD200i surpass M-4100SH (M-5100H) greatly!

new FW may be released tomorrow after more testing.

Congratulate TOMACRO!

Do they give any details regarding these improvements? Like Dvico explains which media type was improved and how.
What means perfect for subtitles? Can any limHD owner make a picture of it to compare?

Also, I would like somebody to point to a file that plays flawlessly in limHD and fails in TViX, so we could know what TViX lacks.

As far as I understood, they didn't implement MKV in this FW update yet, correct?

Do they give any details regarding these improvements? Like Dvico explains which media type was improved and how.
What means perfect for subtitles? Can any limHD owner make a picture of it to compare?

Also, I would like somebody to point to a file that plays flawlessly in limHD and fails in TViX, so we could know what TViX lacks.

As far as I understood, they didn't implement MKV in this FW update yet, correct?

That is correct. They did not add support for the MKV container in this FW update. That is coming early August.

Thanks,
Enrique

Also, I would like somebody to point to a file that plays flawlessly in limHD and fails in TViX, so we could know what TViX lacks.

I'd like to see this too. The 4100/5100 play H264 (not sure of VC-1, but have yet to find a player other than a PC that plays *everything*), but curious as Russland has pointed out, let's see what files failed on Tvix vs. limiHD.

There is a partial changelog and pictures of the new firmware here:

http://www.chdtv.net/viewthread.php?tid=50969&extra=page%3D1#

Maybe someone who knows Chinese can translate.

"The latest version of firmware 0615 Changxian test :
1. A major increase network function, samba, static IP, dynamic IP.WINDOWSPC. Now they can surf the network to share documents, the source of broadcast films currently imperfect, in the next phase of network configuration which will cause it to the Windows network interface neighbors, LAN can see where all the PC, and can visit competence PC can enter a user name and password! Next firmware improve network
2.USB upgrade will be able to support 3.5-inch Power movement, bringing their hard disks, laptop USB mobile hard disk collocation, U disk, and so on.
3. Provide more video output resolution
4. More humanized the Fast Forward, the reaction speed is much faster
5. Switched voice prompt channel ID
6.Boot volume decreased 1:00

0615 for the internal testing version, not Gongce. "

Looks like 0615 is a test version?

Kevin

Jackie, does this mean the new firmware will not be out until next week now?

Kevin

Ok, some more test results:

Video #0
Codec : AVC
Codec/Info : MPEG-4 AVC
Codec profile : Main@L4.0
PlayTime : 29mn 11s
Bit rate : 18 Mbps
Width : 1920 pixels
Height : 1088 pixels
Aspect ratio : 16/9
PixelAspectRatio : 1.000
DisplayAspectRatio : 1.765

Audio #0
Codec : AC3
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Video0 delay : -582ms
ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, Subw


Played flawlessly :D


Test Rig:

LimHD200i (firmware v0517)
HDMI output 720p
Coax

Hitachi PJ-TX200 HD projector
Pioneer THX 7.1 VSX-1015
Mission 7.1 M3 Series

Next....

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-2 Video
Codec profile : Main@High
Codec settings/Matri : Custom
PlayTime : -12h 36mn
Bit rate : 39 Mbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Width : 1920 pixels
Height : 1080 pixels
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : Composite
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.625

Audio #0
Codec : AC3
PlayTime : 38mn 50s
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, Subwoofer

Played flawlessly


Test Rig:

LimHD200i (firmware v0517)
HDMI output 720p
Coax

Hitachi PJ-TX200 HD projector
Pioneer THX 7.1 VSX-1015
Mission 7.1 M3 Series

Next....

Video #0
Codec : h264
PlayTime : 34mn 4s
Bit rate : 6898 Kbps
Width : 1920 pixels
Height : 1088 pixels
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.138

Audio #0
Codec : DTS
Bit rate : 768 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Resolution : 20 bits
Coherency/PlayTime : 2044318
ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, Subwoofer

Played flawlessly


Test Rig:

LimHD200i (firmware v0517)
HDMI output 720p
Coax

Hitachi PJ-TX200 HD projector
Pioneer THX 7.1 VSX-1015
Mission 7.1 M3 Series

And another.....


Video #0
Codec : Intel H.264
Codec/Info : Intel H.264
PlayTime : 2h 16mn
Bit rate : 6390 Kbps
Width : 1280 pixels
Height : 532 pixels
Aspect ratio : 2.406
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.391

Audio #0
Codec : DTS
Bit rate : 1536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Resolution : 20 bits
StreamSize : 412 KiB
Title : 1_Track2
Coherency/PlayTime : 8177814
ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, Subwoofer

Played flawlessly


Test Rig:

LimHD200i (firmware v0517)
HDMI output 720p
Coax

Hitachi PJ-TX200 HD projector
Pioneer THX 7.1 VSX-1015
Mission 7.1 M3 Series

For further test's, just post the link's and I'll test them and report back.

Kevin

Jackie, does this mean the new firmware will not be out until next week now?

Kevin

Hello Kevin, the lastest firmware is 0622.

Hello Kevin, the lastest firmware is 0622.

Can you post it?

Kevin

Can you post it?

Kevin

Tomacro engineer said that they just found 0622 firmware had a compatibility problem with Toshiba HDD, this make LimHD200i player can't work. However, tonight this problem will be resolved. Let us look forward to a improved 0622 firmware.

Hello Kevin, I emailed to you, please check your mailbox.
We look forward your professional testing reports. Thanks.

Jackie

There is a partial changelog and pictures of the new firmware here:

http://www.chdtv.net/viewthread.php?tid=50969&extra=page%3D1#

Maybe someone who knows Chinese can translate.

Hello Wizziwig, please read this web page in English,

http://translate.google.com/translate?sourceid=navclient&hl=EN&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2echdtv%2enet%2fviewthread%2ephp%3ftid%3d 50969%26extra%3dpage%253D1 :D

Tomacro engineer said that they just found 0622 firmware had a compatibility problem with Toshiba HDD, this make LimHD200i player can't work. However, tonight this problem will be resolved.
I emailed to you, please check your mailbox.
We look forward your professional testing reports. Thanks.

Jackie

Hi Jackie

Did you mean you will email me, or have (nothing in my inbox)?

Also, are there any additions/differences between 0615 and 0622?

Cheers


Kevin

Hi Jackie

Did you mean you will email me, or have (nothing in my inbox)?

Also, are there any additions/differences between 0615 and 0622?

Cheers


Kevin

Hello Kevin, we had sent two email to you. Did you get them?
I'm sorry, because of we have not 0615 firmware, so we don't know what is the difference between 0615 and 0622.

Hello Kevin, we had sent two email to you. Did you get them?
I'm sorry, because of we have not 0615 firmware, so we don't know what is the difference between 0615 and 0622.

Ok..got it...will test and report back.

Kevin

Ok, just to let folks know, I am providing feedback on the latest beta firmware.

Kevin

Ok, just to let folks know, I am providing feedback on the latest beta firmware.

Kevin

We are all waiting ;)

Here are some Blu-Ray clips I saw posted on another forum. Bitrate varies between 30-40 Mb/sec. Please let us know how these play from internal hard drive and over network. Thanks.

VC1:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/fe4l5b

H264:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/0maw4g

MPEG2:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/die3o6

perhaps I missed it somewhere but who is selling this media player in the US?

perhaps I missed it somewhere but who is selling this media player in the US?

TOMACRO will tell you

Here are some Blu-Ray clips I saw posted on another forum. Bitrate varies between 30-40 Mb/sec. Please let us know how these play from internal hard drive and over network. Thanks.

VC1:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/fe4l5b

H264:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/0maw4g

MPEG2:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/die3o6

1st and last files have been deleted. Can you post them again (not sendspace - d/l speed is dire)

Kevin

BTW as to the posts earlier in this thread, is there a MAC OSX tool that can do what mkv2vfr does?

Thanks in advance

BTW as to the posts earlier in this thread, is there a MAC OSX tool that can do what mkv2vfr does?

Thanks in advance

Don't know too much about the Mac scene, but, FFmegX has some very powerful muxing features - take a look.

Kevin

Yes....that's my goal.....

NEWS - I can now confirm that the method I have posted for taking an MKV and remuxing into an AVI container WORKS 100%!!!!

I have watched 5 films - paused.....ffrd, rrwd....all plays in perfect sync......gotta love that quality....not more reencoding for 10 hours at a time and ending up with something not as good as the source!!

For me, personally, it's like finding the Holy Grail!!

Kevin

Awesome News.. :)

Just curious...

Did you try demuxing (audio and video) from the MKV file that you ran thru mkv2vfr, then taking those audio and video files, run them thru xmuxer pro to make a TS file??

Maybe the MKv2vfr mixed the audio video sync, and using those raw files in xmuxer pro to a TS would work..

Just curious...

Awesome News.. :)

Just curious...

Did you try demuxing (audio and video) from the MKV file that you ran thru mkv2vfr, then taking those audio and video files, run them thru xmuxer pro to make a TS file??

Maybe the MKv2vfr mixed the audio video sync, and using those raw files in xmuxer pro to a TS would work..

Just curious...

I can't get Xmuxer pro to work properly - just like a typical elecard product :mad:

But, this method works (for 720p files)

Kevin

good news to me!
my friend bought a TVix M-4100SH and i bought a limHD200i from Tomacro, China for $553, a bit expensive :rolleyes:

Just now he sent some pictures with subtitles to me.
See the picture and sutitle contrast of TVix M-4100SH , limHD200i .

I guess $533 is worthwhile.
:D

Here is photos of Tvix M-4100SH video quality :
I don't appreciate Tvix M-4100SH' s video quality and subtitles,really.
See the Chinese characters, very hard to distinguish "了" from "子"!! :confused:
It should be ＂美＂（beautiful)

good news to me!
my friend bought a TVix M-4100SH and i bought a limHD200i from Tomacro, China for $553, a bit expensive :rolleyes:

Just now he sent some pictures with subtitles to me.
See the picture and sutitle contrast of TVix M-4100SH , limHD200i .

I guess $533 is worthwhile.
:D
Am I the only one who only sees 1 picture? (the M-4100SH)

Am I the only one who only sees 1 picture? (the M-4100SH)

Nope, your not seeing things...lol

Kevin

good news to me!
my friend bought a TVix M-4100SH and i bought a limHD200i from Tomacro, China for $553, a bit expensive :rolleyes:

Just now he sent some pictures with subtitles to me.
See the picture and sutitle contrast of TVix M-4100SH , limHD200i .

I guess $533 is worthwhile.
:D

Sorry, website is busy.
see picture quality and subtitle of limHD200i below.
big contrast with that of Tvix M-4100SH :confused:

Sorry, website is busy.
picture quality and subtitle of limHD200i.
big contrast :confused:

Not sure what your saying?....which one do YOU prefer?....as far as picture quality goes.....over HDMI at 720p (firmware 0517), the LimHD picture of Hi Def material is stunning...

Kevin

See the picture played by Tvix M-4100SH
It's a pity the Chinese Characters can't be shown clearly.
It should be "病","[B]琴"
Seems that it is not of high definition. :cool:

Not sure what your saying?....which one do YOU prefer?....as far as picture quality goes.....over HDMI at 720p (firmware 0517), the picture of Hi Def material is stunning...

Kevin

I'd much prefer limHD200i, the picture is very clear. Real high definition and resolution. Plus, the subtitle is nice, at least it's complete.

Compare the picture i uploaded.
you would easily see the contrast of picture quality and subtitle of these two players.

I definitely prefer limHD200i, anyhow, it costs me $533(+shipping cost).

Personal opinion:)

This looks like one interesting box, however can anyone tell me what resolutions / refresh rates it supports ?

I'm looking to buy a new HDTV which supports 1080p/24hz - is this a rate the device is capable of ? (most of these streamers only support 50/60hz).

Thanks
Chris

This looks like one interesting box, however can anyone tell me what resolutions / refresh rates it supports ?

I'm looking to buy a new HDTV which supports 1080p/24hz - is this a rate the device is capable of ? (most of these streamers only support 50/60hz).

Thanks
Chris

Chris

Quick question - why 1080p @ 24hz?

Kevin

Quick question - why 1080p @ 24hz?
Because HD DVD and Blu-Ray are 24fps. If you play them back at 60Hz, you'll have the typical 3:2 motion stutter.

Because HD DVD and Blu-Ray are 24fps. If you play them back at 60Hz, you'll have the typical 3:2 motion stutter.

24fps?...are we talking about film 23.976?

Most of my files are 23.976....no stuttering or anything

Not sure if that's answered the question?

Kevin

24fps?...are we talking about film 23.976?

Most of my files are 23.976....no stuttering or anything

Not sure if that's answered the question?

Kevin

Is that running at 60hz ? I don't usually notice the 3:2 judder on my HTPC (only occasionaly) when running at 60hz.

If I'm playing a 24/23.976fps file, I'd ideally like to set the output of the box so that it's compatible with the TV's best mode to show the picture (at the moment I switch between 50 and 60hz on my HTPC depending on the type of material being played).

So does the Lim box only support 50 and 60 refresh rates then ?

Ta

Chris

Is that running at 60hz ? I don't usually notice the 3:2 judder on my HTPC (only occasionaly) when running at 60hz.

If I'm playing a 24/23.976fps file, I'd ideally like to set the output of the box so that it's compatible with the TV's best mode to show the picture (at the moment I switch between 50 and 60hz on my HTPC depending on the type of material being played).

So does the Lim box only support 50 and 60 refresh rates then ?

Ta

Chris

Yes

Kevin

24fps?...are we talking about film 23.976?
Yeah, if I say "24" I mean "23.976", of course. In the same way if I say "60" I mean "59.94" cause "60Hz" is really 59.94Hz.

Most of my files are 23.976....no stuttering or anything
Well, most of you US guys are just too used to this kind of stuttering. You've lived with it for ages! However, we European are very used to fluid motion. And playing back 24 (I mean 23.976) movies in 60Hz makes us very unhappy.

Not sure if that's answered the question?
Not really.

Which display resolution and refresh rates does the Lim support? Could you make a list of us, please? Thanks very much!! :)

The functions of 0625 firmware :
This new version increases the approaches to prevent Deadlock and add the escalation function of USB devices!
Specific ways:
1. Put update folder on the first Division of IDE hard drive.
2. Implement SETUP \ BOOT firstly; After TV screen turning black, turn off the machine and reset it after 5 seconds
3. Implement SETUP \ application; After about 25 minutes, Turn off the machine when you find the TV screen has turned black; Reset it after 5 minutes.
4. Implement SETUP \ application BAK
After doing the above steps, the upgrade process is completed. You need to press OK key on the key If you in the subsequent escalation of the process in case of power outages and other unexpected factors lead to the escalation of failure, need at boot time continues to mark the OK button keys, etc. VFD all bright lights can be loosened OK button; In addition, we can not do the upgrade can not be implemented in U disk. We can only achieve it in IDE hard drive at present.

Hello everybody here, if some friends need to either download newer firmware or English manual for LimHD200i, please go to our website http://www.gendvd.com/service.asp#software


It's in the manual (not the best manual I've seen, but I didn't buy it for that!!)

Hope that helps

Kevin

The functions of 0625 firmware :
This new version increases the approaches to prevent Deadlock and add the escalation function of USB devices!
Specific ways:
1. Put update folder on the first Division of IDE hard drive.
2. Implement SETUP \ BOOT firstly; After TV screen turning black, turn off the machine and reset it after 5 seconds
3. Implement SETUP \ application; After about 25 minutes, Turn off the machine when you find the TV screen has turned black; Reset it after 5 minutes.
4. Implement SETUP \ application BAK
After doing the above steps, the upgrade process is completed. You need to press OK key on the key If you in the subsequent escalation of the process in case of power outages and other unexpected factors lead to the escalation of failure, need at boot time continues to mark the OK button keys, etc. VFD all bright lights can be loosened OK button; In addition, we can not do the upgrade can not be implemented in U disk. We can only achieve it in IDE hard drive at present.


Jackie

I only updated the app....I'll update the boot and email you.

Kevin

perhaps I missed it somewhere but who is selling this media player in the US?

TOMACRO will tell you

:confused:

:confused:

GenDVD is an agent for Tomacro....she may be able to help..

Kevin

Jackie

I only updated the app....I'll update the boot and email you.

Kevin


Jackie

Have sent you an email

Kevin

:cool: Just so you folks know....this is one responsive manufacturer.... :D

Kevin

:) when I tried using the command line program, i got the following error:

Usage: mkv2vfr matroska_file avi_file vfr_file


I entered my .mkv file, stated the .avi file I wanted, but where do I get the vfr_file?? and what is that file?? :) :)

I want to give this procedure I try, then try to make a TS from it...

Thanx..

:) when I tried using the command line program, i got the following error:

Usage: mkv2vfr matroska_file avi_file vfr_file


I entered my .mkv file, stated the .avi file I wanted, but where do I get the vfr_file?? and what is that file?? :) :)

I want to give this procedure I try, then try to make a TS from it...

Thanx..


Best way to do it is to drag your mkv file into:

C:\Program Files\Haali\MatroskaSplitter

rename your mkv file 1.mkv

next, command line

cmd

cd.. all the back to c prompt

cd Program Files\Haali\MatroskaSplitter

mkv2vfr 1.mkv 1.avi

dont worry about the vfr file, you dont need it.

Let me know how you get on...one last thing; is it 720p or 1080p?...

Kevin

:) when I tried using the command line program, i got the following error:

Usage: mkv2vfr matroska_file avi_file vfr_file


I entered my .mkv file, stated the .avi file I wanted, but where do I get the vfr_file?? and what is that file?? :) :)

I want to give this procedure I try, then try to make a TS from it...

Thanx..


Oh, and if you find a way to mux into TS, please the forum know, as Xmuxer Pro does not like H.264 and AC3......load of c**p.... :rolleyes:

Oh, and if you find a way to mux into TS, please the forum know, as Xmuxer Pro does not like H.264 and AC3......load of c**p.... :rolleyes:

Kevin, do you have small samples of H.264 + AC3 in a MKV container that I can try muxing together with mkv2ts tool?
So far, it worked for me somehow.

Kevin, do you have small samples of H.264 + AC3 in a MKV container that I can try muxing together with mkv2ts tool?
So far, it worked for me somehow.


Yeah, it works on small files, but you get problems with graphedit (which the proggy calls on) when its goes to trying to build graph 2 on a full movie.....

I'll post a file....but signing out now, so will be tomorrow.

Kevin

Kevin, do you have small samples of H.264 + AC3 in a MKV container that I can try muxing together with mkv2ts tool?
So far, it worked for me somehow.

Oh...did you get my private reply?...and have you tried it yet?

Kevin

Compare the picture i uploaded.
you would easily see the contrast of picture quality and subtitle of these two players.

I definitely prefer limHD200i, anyhow, it costs me $533(+shipping cost).

Personal opinion:)
Eh....
I looked at pictures "Picture1", 1+ 1++, 2, 2+ and 3.
I don't get it.
How can you compare two stills from two completely different video sources. And I couldn't find any info regarding what resolutions was used as source for any of the pictures.
The subtitle colors were different to. I beleive they are changable on the Tvix...?

Did I miss some info in these picture-quality-comparison-posts?
Please repeat it to me then. :o

Or can anyone have the possibility to do a proper comparison using same frame, from the same clip, with the same subtitle color used, with the same output settings on the same display?

Now that would be an interesting comparison before investing in any of them...
/J

I'd like to see this too. The 4100/5100 play H264 (not sure of VC-1, but have yet to find a player other than a PC that plays *everything*), but curious as Russland has pointed out, let's see what files failed on Tvix vs. limiHD.


hmmmm. I would like to see that too. I think these two players are about equal in feature and performance.

Eh....
I looked at pictures "Picture1", 1+ 1++, 2, 2+ and 3.
I don't get it.
How can you compare two stills from two completely different video sources. And I couldn't find any info regarding what resolutions was used as source for any of the pictures.
The subtitle colors were different to. I beleive they are changable on the Tvix...?

Did I miss some info in these picture-quality-comparison-posts?
Please repeat it to me then. :o

Or can anyone have the possibility to do a proper comparison using same frame, from the same clip, with the same subtitle color used, with the same output settings on the same display?

Now that would be an interesting comparison before investing in any of them...
/J


Good point......in the next few days I will upload pics taken on a 130" 720P screen, with pics taken at 8 megapixles....

Until then, I consider the picture quality on the LimHD (firmware 0517), unmatched!...and that comes from someone that purchased a £650 Denon 2910...and now, I have to sell my Denon and my 620 DVD's.....Ebay....here we come!

Kevin

Great! Now the "only" thing missing is that you and someone with a Tvix has the same HD video clip and preferable same projector, output resolution, camera etc etc :)

/J

Best way to do it is to drag your mkv file into:

C:\Program Files\Haali\MatroskaSplitter

rename your mkv file 1.mkv

next, command line

cmd

cd.. all the back to c prompt

cd Program Files\Haali\MatroskaSplitter

mkv2vfr 1.mkv 1.avi

dont worry about the vfr file, you dont need it.

Let me know how you get on...one last thing; is it 720p or 1080p?...

Kevin

Thanx.. got is going as you stated..

Strange that I have to copy the .mkv file to the directory that the program is in.. :eek:

The file i'm trying is 1080p... Will try 720p after i try this..

As for xmuxer pro, I'm trying the 2.5 beta version with AVC plugin.. Was able to do full movies with it, but sync would always get worse as movie got to end..

Hope this works..

I have the tvix 4100, so should be interesting...

Thanx.. got is going as you stated..

Strange that I have to copy the .mkv file to the directory that the program is in.. :eek:

The file i'm trying is 1080p... Will try 720p after i try this..

As for xmuxer pro, I'm trying the 2.5 beta version with AVC plugin.. Was able to do full movies with it, but sync would always get worse as movie got to end..

Hope this works..

I have the tvix 4100, so should be interesting...

For some unknown reason (as I have stated) this method does not work with 1080p....well for me anyway, but works perfect with 720p

Kevin

Thanx.. got is going as you stated..

Strange that I have to copy the .mkv file to the directory that the program is in.. :eek:

The file i'm trying is 1080p... Will try 720p after i try this..

As for xmuxer pro, I'm trying the 2.5 beta version with AVC plugin.. Was able to do full movies with it, but sync would always get worse as movie got to end..

Hope this works..

I have the tvix 4100, so should be interesting...

You don't have to copy it, but with a command line program, makes it much more easy...

Kevin

:confused:

sorry RTK, but neither do i know exactly who you can buy limHD200i through in the

US? I don't know whether there's an agent in the US. Perhaps you can ask

TOMACRO or send e-mail to its sale manager of U.S.A. market.(

info002@tomacro.com).I get this email address on TOMACRO's website.

I bought my limHD200i directly from China. You may buy limHD200i from Tomacro company.

Good luck!

Thanx.. got is going as you stated..

Strange that I have to copy the .mkv file to the directory that the program is in.. :eek:

The file i'm trying is 1080p... Will try 720p after i try this..

As for xmuxer pro, I'm trying the 2.5 beta version with AVC plugin.. Was able to do full movies with it, but sync would always get worse as movie got to end..

Hope this works..

I have the tvix 4100, so should be interesting...


How did you get on?

Kevin

Good point......in the next few days I will upload pics taken on a 130" 720P screen, with pics taken at 8 megapixles....

Until then, I consider the picture quality on the LimHD (firmware 0517), unmatched!...and that comes from someone that purchased a £650 Denon 2910...and now, I have to sell my Denon and my 620 DVD's.....Ebay....here we come!

Kevin

Don't get me wrong Kevin, I'm happy that you're providing us with great solutions and feedback on the limHD200i, but I get my guards up when the objectivity fades.

The picture quality shouldn't differ between players using the EM8623 chipset - since that is where all the decoding is done.
So the picture quality should infact be matched by players using the same chipset.
Some sort of post processing could be done, but I doubt that it would be more than basic color/brightness adjustments. ..and my bet would be that nothing is done at all.
Of course I could be wrong.. :) I just seriously doubt it.

Again - don't get me wrong, I see myself buying a limHD200i and I really like your in-/output Kevin :)

Ok.....just little something to download....picture quality is not great (took with a camera/video phone)....but it gives an indication.

Film is 1080p H.264 DTS @ 40mbps....

Kevin

http://rapidshare.com/files/39401143/1080p40mbpsH.264DTS.ASF.html

:cool: :D :)

Test Rig:

LimHD200i (firmware v0517)
HDMI output 720p
Coax

Hitachi PJ-TX200 HD projector
130" Screen
Pioneer THX 7.1 VSX-1015
Mission 7.1 M3 Series

Good point......in the next few days I will upload pics taken on a 130" 720P screen, with pics taken at 8 megapixles....

Until then, I consider the picture quality on the LimHD (firmware 0517), unmatched!...and that comes from someone that purchased a £650 Denon 2910...and now, I have to sell my Denon and my 620 DVD's.....Ebay....here we come!

Kevin

Ok...point taken....one too many beers when I wrote that!!...lol....my point is that, to date, I personally have not seen an image so clean...that's all I meant...

Re postprocessing - I am pretty certain that the LimHD does this, as I am providing feedback for them to tighen up in a few areas on the latest beta firmware.

Anyways - as they say, it's all down to choice. For me, I think the LimHD is one of the nicest streamers looks wise, and it seems to play everything I could want.

1080p H.264 DTS @ 40mbps with no stuttering, and fantastic picture quality to boot.....I'm one happy chappie!!....lol :D

Kevin

Still no info on AVC 1080p streaming over NFS? If this box is also unable to do that, it's yet another totally useless media player, as far as I'm concerned.

Still no info on AVC 1080p streaming over NFS? If this box is also unable to do that, it's yet another totally useless media player, as far as I'm concerned.

Streaming is being tweaked at the moment.

Kevin

perhaps I missed it somewhere but who is selling this media player in the US?

TOMACRO will tell you
You can buy the goods from Ebay or www.gendvd .com.We have 90-days warranty.

90 days warrenty???? really short for such an device?!?! or is only 90 days warrenty from you and then the rest at tomacro?

cHarOn

90 days warrenty???? really short for such an device?!?! or is only 90 days warrenty from you and then the rest at tomacro?

cHarOn

Is that not pretty standard?...I know some countries have 12 months, but I thought most were 90 days?

Kevin

Is that not pretty standard?...I know some countries have 12 months, but I thought most were 90 days?

Kevin
Wow :) In Denmark it's down to 6 months plus 18 months of "right to complain". A couple of years ago it was 12 months of warranty.
I think 6-12 months is pretty standard in the European Union.

Wow :) In Denmark it's down to 6 months plus 18 months of "right to complain". A couple of years ago it was 12 months of warranty.
I think 6-12 months is pretty standard in the European Union.

Yeah...UK is still 12 months...is the US 90 days?...or is that just in some states?

In the UK it's 12 months.

However, our consumer laws have recently changed regarding products that may contain an "inherent" fault. Our sales "Sale of Goods Act" now gives consumers up-to six years (five in Scotland) to take a case to court if you can prove goods are inherently faulty.

Also goods ordered on-line, by phone or by post can now be returned under new "Distance Selling Regulations" without explanation within a reasonable time (ie: seven to ten days). Without incurring a re-stocking charge.


Cheers

OK

Another test....

External USB .5 T drive (with all files as tested and reported previously) - all plays as it does on the internal hard drive.

Kevin

OK

Another test....

External USB .5 T drive (with all files as tested and reported previously) - all plays as it does on the internal hard drive.

Kevin
Great info! Thx

Could you check LAN also, when it's enabled in the firmware? I'd be very interrested to know if 1080p H.264 plays fine..

Great info! Thx

Could you check LAN also, when it's enabled in the firmware? I'd be very interrested to know if 1080p H.264 plays fine..

Lan streaming is being tweaked in the new beta firmware

Kevin

12 months is the standard warranty for all media players that I know of. I dont know of a single media player that offers anything less than 12 months. Its strange they are only offering 90 days for this unit.

we have here in austria and germany 24 months warrenty thats very strange 90 days for an 400 - 500 Euro device.

cHarOn

we have here in austria and germany 24 months warrenty thats very strange 90 days for an 400 - 500 Euro device.

cHarOn

Can't answer that one - I'm sure either Maggie or Jackie will pick that up and respond

Kevin