You can buy the goods from Ebay or www.gendvd .com.We have 90-days warranty.

Hello everybody here, maybe some friends misunderstand our warranty policy, please let us explain that.
Since the date of purchased, you can return your defective machines and will not be charged for the replacement within 90 days.

Anyways....I'm ok with 90 days...so, I'll leave you lot debate that one..lol..right....on with more tests...

Anyone have anymore test files?

Kevin

A penny for a file sir...please sir.... :D

Hello everybody here, maybe some friends misunderstand our warranty policy, please let us explain that.
Since the date of purchased, you can return your defective machines and will not be charged for the replacement within 90 days.

There was no misunderstanding. Usually all media players come with a 12 months parts and labor warranty which means you can return your defective machine and will not be charged for replacement within 365 days. All the media players I know of has at least 12 months.

Anymore for anymore?

Post em, I'll check em.....

Anymore for anymore?

Post em, I'll check em.....

Kevin, what types of media files have you found not compatible with limHD?
I know that MKV isn't supported yet, but what about other files?
Do you have any avi/mp4/ts/m2ts files that don't play at all or play in stuttering mode?

I noticed on the Chinese forums (such as www.chdtv.net) that people play a lot of remuxed VC1 transport streams. Any idea what tools are used to make these files? I can't seem to find any free or commercial tools that can multiplex VC1 into transport stream (TS) files. Maybe someone who speaks Chinese can look into it and post their method here?

Thanks.

I am really interested in this item but the 90 days is keeping me from picking one up. Don't want to be out 500 plus dollars in 3 months testing this thing.

I have been following this thread for quite some time and I also think the $520 price is too high and reason enough to stay away but a 90 day warranty....well that pretty much seals the deal or I should say unseals the deal.

I will keep watching the thread and maybe in a year or so the price will drop enough to justify a purchase.

So I have read a few things saying that the 8623 chip won't even be able to handle the MKV container. Is this true? Also is the 8634 chip going to be the chip that does it all without any problems? Too many questions!

8634 Spec PDF
http://www.sigmadesigns.com/public/Products/SMP8630/pdf_files/DTV-8634_br.pdf

@LianLi: As i can tell you from china there are 2 companies who will release really soon 8634 based devices also Dvico is already in developement and yes 8634 have enough power for mkv and other things what an 8623 based device cant do that great.
I think the Tommacro Device is nice and as oldpainless68 said when you convert your mkv´s they play fine as ts or whatever ;-) but for me it is not that nice when i have to pay 500 + dollars and have 90days warrenty?!?!?!

cHarOn

I shore its the law in the UK that electrical stuff sold here has to have a min 12 month guarantee and isn't European parliament says 2 years starting shortly
Alan :)

I am really interested in this item but the 90 days is keeping me from picking one up. Don't want to be out 500 plus dollars in 3 months testing this thing.

Dear Cinten: Maybe you misunderstand our warranty policy, our 90 days warranty that means you can return your defective player and free charges for replacement. 12 months , one year, free maintenance.

I shore its the law in the UK that electrical stuff sold here has to have a min 12 month guarantee and isn't European parliament says 2 years starting shortly
Alan :)

Dear Southone: Our warranty policy is : free charges for replacement within 90 days since the date of purchase. 12 months free maintenance.

Dear Cinten: Maybe you misunderstand our warranty policy, our 90 days warranty that means you can return your defective player and free charges for replacement. 12 months , one year, free maintenance.

Can you clairfy, what you mean by maintanence? What happens if one of the parts in the player is defective after 90 days?

90 days warrenty???? really short for such an device?!?! or is only 90 days warrenty from you and then the rest at tomacro?

cHarOn

Dear cHarOn99, our warranty policy means free charges for replacement within 90 days, 12 months free maintenance.

Wow :) In Denmark it's down to 6 months plus 18 months of "right to complain". A couple of years ago it was 12 months of warranty.
I think 6-12 months is pretty standard in the European Union.

Dear TheBrew, our 90 days warranty means buyer will enjoy free replacement within 90 days since the date of purchase. 12 months free maintenance.

Dear Cinten: Maybe you misunderstand our warranty policy, our 90 days warranty that means you can return your defective player and free charges for replacement. 12 months , one year, free maintenance.

Dear Southone: Our warranty policy is : free charges for replacement within 90 days since the date of purchase. 12 months free maintenance.

Dear cHarOn99, our warranty policy means free charges for replacement within 90 days, 12 months free maintenance.

Dear TheBrew, our 90 days warranty means buyer will enjoy free replacement within 90 days since the date of purchase. 12 months free maintenance.

Yeah, yeah, we got you :)

Can you clairfy, what you mean by maintanence? What happens if one of the parts in the player is defective after 90 days?

12 months free maintenance, but man-made damage will be charged.

I have been following this thread for quite some time and I also think the $520 price is too high and reason enough to stay away but a 90 day warranty....well that pretty much seals the deal or I should say unseals the deal.

I will keep watching the thread and maybe in a year or so the price will drop enough to justify a purchase.
I am very sorry that I did not state our warranty policy clearly. I want to explain further. After your purchasing , you can return your defective machines and we will send a new one for free within 90 days. If you think $520 is too high,you can organize a group buy on AVS, then you will get a much more favourable price.

So I have read a few things saying that the 8623 chip won't even be able to handle the MKV container. Is this true? Also is the 8634 chip going to be the chip that does it all without any problems? Too many questions!

8634 Spec PDF
http://www.sigmadesigns.com/public/Products/SMP8630/pdf_files/DTV-8634_br.pdf
Yes you are right , the 8623 can not support MKV. But you know, the price of machine with 8624 will de twice higher than with 8623.Do you think it worth the money only to get MkV founction?

I am very sorry that I did not state our warranty policy clearly. I want to explain further. After your purchasing , you can return your defective machines and we will send a new one for free within 90 days. If you think $520 is too high,you can organize a group buy on AVS, then you will get a much more favourable price.
Thank you for responding back and as I said I will continue to follow this thread to see what develops. From what I have read so far, the limhd is well on its way to being the best network media player available. Maybe when sales really take off the opportunity to drop the price will arise.

Regards,

bits

Hello everyone ! Because of my unclear expression, many friends have misunderstand our warranty policy .I apologize for that and want to make a further explanation. For l limHD200i , we can replace it for a new one if there are some problems of the machine within 90 days. And you can enjoy one- year warranty. And I should mention that if the problems of the machine are caused by man- made damage not the quality problems, you need to pay maintenance cost .

How did you get on?

Kevin

Sorry for the delay... Work is busy.. :)

The 1080p clip did not work with tvix.. Just played a slide show with audio.. but... on computer, worked great, perfect sync..

Tried a 720p mkv and that was much better, but , tvix when playing the .avi, the video was not smooth.. Like extra frames were being added or something.. Just not fluid..,, but... it did play with perfect sync...

I had to use virtualdubmod to make the final avi, as avimux did not work well with tvix..

As for TS.. well, xmuxer hated the avi files... Strange, as I was able to import other avi files... Maybe, the new avi file that was converted to constant bitrate, removed the flag that stated it was AVC... It only read h264 with the avi now..

Oh well... Just waiting for xmuxer new version with MKV support, and TSremux with MKV support.. :)

Yes you are right , the 8623 can not support MKV. But you know, the price of machine with 8624 will de twice higher than with 8623.Do you think it worth the money only to get MkV founction?

The 8634 will come in well below the $520 odd price thats currently being charged. I know Ziova and others are already working on the 8634 and I can tell you the price is going to be a lot lower than that. So not sure where you are getitng the info that the 8634 will be twice as much.

Yes you are right , the 8623 can not support MKV. But you know, the price of machine with 8624 will de twice higher than with 8623.Do you think it worth the money only to get MkV founction?

The 8634 is way more than just supporting the MKV container. If you’re spending $520 dollars for the 8623 chip, you are going to end up spending more money in less than a year when devices with the 8634 chipset come out. Also Microsoft TV will be using devices with the 8634 chipset. I'm not saying Microsoft TV will be good but it’s going main stream and that's where these media servers need to be. I really think everyone is looking for one that can do it all and in my opinion we are not there yet. Even the Apple TV is coming up short. So people who are looking to buy one now I would personally wait till more advanced devices come out that can do all the things you need. Don't try to force the device to work for you by having to convert all your HD content. This is just my opinion. xD

90 days sounds like they dont have confidence in there product so I wont purchasing one anytime soon.

when 8634 devices come out, 8699 may wait for you, then we may wait all our life. 8623,wait for 8634,...,8634,wait for 8638,.......
view and admire the beautiful scenery all the way! :D

I noticed on the Chinese forums (such as www.chdtv.net) that people play a lot of remuxed VC1 transport streams. Any idea what tools are used to make these files? I can't seem to find any free or commercial tools that can multiplex VC1 into transport stream (TS) files. Maybe someone who speaks Chinese can look into it and post their method here?

Thanks.


Here's a tool:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125447

Prepare a sample and I'll test it

Kevin

Kevin, what types of media files have you found not compatible with limHD?
I know that MKV isn't supported yet, but what about other files?
Do you have any avi/mp4/ts/m2ts files that don't play at all or play in stuttering mode?

MKV is the only one so far....oh...someone posted a file that played up until 1:04 of a 2 min clip....but thats the only one

Kevin

So I have read a few things saying that the 8623 chip won't even be able to handle the MKV container. Is this true? Also is the 8634 chip going to be the chip that does it all without any problems? Too many questions!

8634 Spec PDF
http://www.sigmadesigns.com/public/Products/SMP8630/pdf_files/DTV-8634_br.pdf

Not sure that's true...do I think they might crack 1080p MKV playback, not sure. 720p MKV, I think so. If it can play the AVI files that I have remuxed from an MKV using the method I've posted, I dont see why it cant play them in an MKV container.

Just my 2 cents

Kevin

90 days sounds like they dont have confidence in there product so I wont purchasing one anytime soon.

I think this has been cleared up.....free NEW replacement within 90 days.....full 12 month fix and return if machine is defect.

Kevin

My limHD200i can play Mpeg2(.tp,.ts, .mpg), H.264/Mpeg4-AVC(.avi, .ts, .mov), WMV9 (.wmv, .avi), VC1(.ts) flawlessly, it is very stable, and zero noise (no fan).
it's perfect player in my opinion.

when 8634 devices come out, 8699 may wait for you, then we may wait all our life. 8623,wait for 8634,...,8634,wait for 8638,.......
view and admire the beautiful scenery all the way! :D

look at syabas.com then you can see what 8634 is able todo what 8623 cant do!! IPTV, Samba, MKV, ...........................................
and the devices are on the way already and are around 400 Euro so why i should give more chash for an device which is already outdated?!?!

cHarOn

Sorry for the delay... Work is busy.. :)

The 1080p clip did not work with tvix.. Just played a slide show with audio.. but... on computer, worked great, perfect sync..

Tried a 720p mkv and that was much better, but , tvix when playing the .avi, the video was not smooth.. Like extra frames were being added or something.. Just not fluid..,, but... it did play with perfect sync...

I had to use virtualdubmod to make the final avi, as avimux did not work well with tvix..

As for TS.. well, xmuxer hated the avi files... Strange, as I was able to import other avi files... Maybe, the new avi file that was converted to constant bitrate, removed the flag that stated it was AVC... It only read h264 with the avi now..

Oh well... Just waiting for xmuxer new version with MKV support, and TSremux with MKV support.. :)

Glad to hear it worked for you....like I said, so far, its the only method to work. Sorry it didn't play on your Tvix, there's always the LimHD :D

I cant get on with Xmuxer, even with raw H.264 and AC3 or DTS, just comes up with unsupported streams...... :mad:

Kevin

look at syabas.com then you can see what 8634 is able todo what 8623 cant do!! IPTV, Samba, MKV, ...........................................
and the devices are on the way already and are around 400 Euro so why i should give more chash for an device which is already outdated?!?!

cHarOn


How long do you think it will really be for a 8634 machine to come out?...The LimHD is here now, and seems to plays stuff that others cant.

So, I guess it's a question of choice.

Just my 2 cents

Kevin

8634 is under development now, not a finished product, when relative products come out, stability will need a long time yet.

My limHD200i supports Samba now!

My friend told me, he has a 8634 prototype, VC1 and some H.264(avi container)files playback stutter now, it will take some time to solve thez.

i get an 8634 testsample in between 1-3 weeks the devices are in endtesting so i think at the beginning of august will be an release.

cHarOn

Maybe or may not be, good luck! Everyone believes 'TOMORROW IS BETTER'. but i'm not a sight-seer!

i can only say that syabas is really good in developement the fixed many bugs and works for more performance the first devices also what Hi Jack had are alpha status but now the get closer to final.

But we will see when the first devices are out but the power is an big step forward to the 8623 devices!!

cHarOn

Actions speak louder than words!

i can only say that syabas is really good in developement the fixed many bugs and works for more performance the first devices also what Hi Jack had are alpha status but now the get closer to final.

But we will see when the first devices are out but the power is an big step forward to the 8623 devices!!

cHarOn

Let's put an end to the whole 8263 vs 8624 debate shall we?

For those that want 8624....there's nothing to see here on any of the threads, we are discussing what's here and now. If you want an 8624 device, then it's simple - wait.

However, those that want a Hi-Def media player now - the LimHD seems a good choice. Apart from all the other high def, high bitrate stuffs it plays, it seems it's the only one that can take a remuxed 720p MVK file (method posted) and play it without any problems - and the quality is, well, up there with the best.

So, let's continue to explore whats here and now.

Kevin

Yes you are right , the 8623 can not support MKV. But you know, the price of machine with 8624 will de twice higher than with 8623.Do you think it worth the money only to get MkV founction?
If a 8634 based player does perfect 1080p/AVC over NFS, then yes, I would consider it worth the money. I can't see 8623 ever doing that; it's simply too underpowered.

Yes you are right , the 8623 can not support MKV.
Now I'm confused. I thought the limHD200i would get MKV support with a future firmware version?

Now I'm confused. I thought the limHD200i would get MKV support with a future firmware version?

I'd hang tight on that....I reckon these's a good chance they will crack 720p MKV support. Like I said, if it can play the remuxed MKV files with no problems, then I don't see why they wont crack it....I've posted enough test files and info for them.......

Kevin

I'd hang tight on that....I reckon these's a good chance they will crack 720p MKV support. Like I said, if it can play the remuxed MKV files with no problems, then I don't see why they wont crack it....I've posted enough test files and info for them.......
Well, about 98% of my movies are 1080i/p and most of them are in MKV.

Well, about 98% of my movies are 1080i/p and most of them are in MKV.

The LimHD has no problems with 1080i/p files at all. But the MKV to AVI method I've posted only seems to work on 720p MKV to AVI.....I'll take another look into this 1080p MKV thing.....

Kevin

Let's put an end to the whole 8263 vs 8624 debate shall we?

For those that want 8624....there's nothing to see here on any of the threads, we are discussing what's here and now. If you want an 8624 device, then it's simple - wait.

However, those that want a Hi-Def media player now - the LimHD seems a good choice. Apart from all the other high def, high bitrate stuffs it plays, it seems it's the only one that can take a remuxed 720p MVK file (method posted) and play it without any problems - and the quality is, well, up there with the best.

So, let's continue to explore whats here and now.

Kevin
The limhd does appear to be a good media player and time will tell how good it really is....but at $520 US it is overpriced. I think a strong argument could be made that for that kind of money a very nice, powerfu,l small footprint and quiet HTPC could be had (Dell Optiplex, ACER Aspire L310, HP Slimline as off the shelf examples). I am not necessarily an HTPC advocate but it would provide quite a few more options than the limHD.

Had another look at the 1080p MKV to 1080p AVI thing.....no luck. Method is perfect for 720p MKV to 720p AVI.......

Guess we'll have to wait for TSremuxer to add direct MKV input, or someone else comes up with another method.

Kevin

Guess we'll have to wait for TSremuxer to add direct MKV input, or someone else comes up with another method.
That's no option for me. I'm not willing to remux all my MKV movies.

What happened to the information that the limHD would get full MKV support with a newer firmware version in August? Was that information wrong? Or is there new evidence that the hardware is simply not fast enough for that? Or what's going on? Maybe what they meant all the time is that there'll be a new box (e.g. "limHD300") in August with a newer/faster chip?

The limhd does appear to be a good media player and time will tell how good it really is....but at $520 US it is overpriced. I think a strong argument could be made that for that kind of money a very nice, powerfu,l small footprint and quiet HTPC could be had (Dell Optiplex, ACER, HP Slimline as off the shelf examples). I am not necessarily an HTPC advocate but it would provide quite a few more options than the limHD.

You make a vaild point, and Tomacro's/GenDVD's pricing is only something they can comment on. However, me personally, I dont like HTPC's, and also I think, given the build quality, and what the LimHD is capable of playing, I am happy with the price I paid (with 320gig hard drive).

Just my 2 cents

Kevin

On with more tests......

You make a vaild point, and Tomacro's/GenDVD's pricing is only something they can comment on. However, me personally, I dont like HTPC's, and also I think, given the build quality, and what the LimHD is capable of playing, I am happy with the price I paid (with 320gig hard drive).

Just my 2 cents

Kevin

On with more tests......
What was it you paid, including the 320GB drive?

I am under the impression that $520 is the limhd without a hardrive...I personally have no need of a HDD.

I agree on the HTPC...I do not own one but as I said when you get to a certain price point other options begin to make more sense.

At the moment I have absolutely no need for h.264 and that is a big selling point for folks with that desire it.

What was it you paid, including the 320GB drive?

I am under the impression that $520 is the limhd without a hardrive...I personally have no need of a HDD.

I agree on the HTPC...I do not own one but as I said when you get to a certain price point other options begin to make more sense.

At the moment I have absolutely no need for h.264 and that is a big selling point for folks with that desire it.


I paid $599......£300. I think £230 for one of these is a bit of a bargin if your after AVC/H.264 and high bitrate playback etc...

I paid £650 for my Denon 2910.....so....for me, £300 was fine.

K

I paid $599......£300. I think £230 for one of these is a bit of a bargin if your after AVC/H.264 and high bitrate playback etc...
I still have to disagree....the off the shelf small footprint PCs I listed will do that and quite a bit more (will play any video or audio format you can think of for example and play HD DVDs) for $599.

Having said the above I do agree that there is more to setting up and maintaining an HTPC as compared to a networked media player. Over the years I have had many debates, some quite spirited, regarding NMP vs HTPC. As I said I do not have an HTPC and that is because I believe that NMP is simplier and usually more cost effective. Recently however I did mess around with one of my laptops as an HTPC and I did confirm that it is more complicated BUT I did find that it does provide quite a few more options and flexibility than I had imagined.

For now I will keep following this thread and see if the price drops to something more reasonable.

HTPC - the man's buisnuss, complex configuration. When i am not in home, HPTC can do nothing, my mom and wife can't run it. SO, HTPC is a toy only for men.

That's no option for me. I'm not willing to remux all my MKV movies.

What happened to the information that the limHD would get full MKV support with a newer firmware version in August? Was that information wrong? Or is there new evidence that the hardware is simply not fast enough for that? Or what's going on? Maybe what they meant all the time is that there'll be a new box (e.g. "limHD300") in August with a newer/faster chip?

Jackie or Maggie will be able to comment on that...but what's been said, they are talking about the LimHD200i, not a follow up....

Kevin

HTPC - the man's buisnuss, complex configuration. When i am not in home, HPTC can do nothing, my mom and wife can't run it. SO, HTPC is a toy only for men.

Steady there.....I think in general, men are more attracted to A/V, so, one could say media streamers tend to be "boys toys".

However, me and my family enjoy movies, and a HTPC is just too messy and too complicated, for me anway...

But yes, they do other greater flexibility, but, you'd need a pretty powerful HTPC ($$$$$££££!!!) to play 720p and 1080p without any problems.

K

HTPC - the man's buisnuss, complex configuration. When i am not in home, HPTC can do nothing, my mom and wife can't run it. SO, HTPC is a toy only for men.
Before messing about with my laptop as an HTPC I would have completely agreed...that an HTPC would never meet WAF (Wife acceptance factor) but if you run something like BTV and have a Firefly remote then I think operation of the HTPC (assuming it is on 24/7) would be pretty much like running a NMP.

Steady there.....I think in general, men are more attracted to A/V, so, one could say media streamers tend to be "boys toys".

However, me and my family enjoy movies, and a HTPC is just too messy and too complicated, for me anway...

But yes, they do other greater flexibility, but, you'd need a pretty powerful HTPC ($$$$$££££!!!) to play 720p and 1080p without any problems.

K
The PCs I mentioned above, actually DO have the power to run 1080p and 720p high bitrate stuff but in general I do agree it does take a decent cpu and most importantly the right video card!

Well I think I should stop hijacking this thread....I am not an HTPC advocate...I was just whining and trying to make the point that at a price point of $599 with 320GB HDD is high and that there are options...

BTW what NMP where you running before the limhd? Just curious...

The PCs I mentioned above, actually DO have the power to run 1080p and 720p high bitrate stuff but in general I do agree it does take a decent cpu and most importantly the right video card!

Well I think I should stop hijacking this thread....I am not an HTPC advocate...I was just whining and trying to make the point that at a price point of $599 with 320GB HDD is high and that there are options...

BTW what NMP where you running before the limhd? Just curious...


Ok...promise not to laugh......an Xbox360..... :o ....I know I know.....but you know what, WMV-HD's played ok.....but as with all of us...wanted more and better quality.....without having to cope with 12 hour reencodes, and losing the quality in the process!

K

Ok...promise not to laugh......an Xbox360..... :o ....I know I know.....but you know what, WMV-HD's played ok.....but as with all of us...wanted more and better quality.....without having to cope with 12 hour reencodes, and losing the quality in the process!

K
I am not laughing....I am with you on not wanting to re-encode and lose quality.

Does limHD200i have support for unicode ?

I have some mp3s that use unicode in the ID3 tag. Also, I have a lot movies that uses Chinese character in the filenames. They are in unicode (NOT GB2312).

Hey Guys,

When you are debating on 8623 VS8634, I have already enjoy my limHD200i. Am i up the fashion?

Seems that 8623 is not weekpowered. My limHD200i works perfect with REMUX X-MEN III.

Enjoy in advance! :p

Hey Guys,

When you are debating on 8623 VS8634, I have already enjoy my limHD200i. Am i up the fashion?

Seems that 8623 is not weekpowered. My limHD200i works perfect with REMUX X-MEN III.

Enjoy in advance! :p

No problem and complant at all ?

Did you own any Mediabox/player/steamer before this?

Firmware 070625 posted here:
http://www.tomacro.com/chinese/archive/update.rar

Google translated change list:
1) increase the security upgrades function;
2) an increase in the escalation of USB devices function;
3) Improving the efficiency of the decoder can broadcast more fluent unit source;
4) The perfect solution subtitles, add a 24 lattice character;
5) Increase the Samba network function
6) addressing a number of other small problems.

Can someone test streaming some high bitrate video over network connection?

Firmware 070625 posted here:
http://www.tomacro.com/chinese/archive/update.rar

Google translated change list:
1) increase the security upgrades function;
2) an increase in the escalation of USB devices function;
3) Improving the efficiency of the decoder can broadcast more fluent unit source;
4) The perfect solution subtitles, add a 24 lattice character;
5) Increase the Samba network function
6) addressing a number of other small problems.

Can someone test streaming some high bitrate video over network connection?

This is a beta......

Does limHD200i have support for unicode ?

I have some mp3s that use unicode in the ID3 tag. Also, I have a lot movies that uses Chinese character in the filenames. They are in unicode (NOT GB2312).

Don't know about that, Jackie or Magie should be able to comment.

Kevin

No problem and complant at all ?

Did you own any Mediabox/player/steamer before this?

:confused: I may not be a so called HD fan...My friend recommended limHD200i and i bought it from China and personally feel it pretty good.

This is what i saw on limHD200i English manual
Video: MPEG1, MPEG2, MPEG3, DivX, XviD, WMVHD, VC-1, H.264,
Audio: MP3, WMA, OGG,WAV,AAC
Container: .mpg,.dat,.avi,.wmv,.ts,.tp,.mov,.m2ts
Network: samba, inserted network card 10/100M

...

By the way , Panasonic DVD is my last player. DVD disc cost me too much.

:confused: I may not be a so called HD fan...My friend recommended limHD200i and i bought it from China and personally feel it pretty good.

This is what i saw on limHD200i English manual
Video: MPEG1, MPEG2, MPEG3, DivX, XviD, WMVHD, VC-1, H.264,
Audio: MP3, WMA, OGG,WAV,AAC
Container: .mpg,.dat,.avi,.wmv,.ts,.tp,.mov,.m2ts
Network: samba, inserted network card 10/100M

...

By the way , Panasonic DVD is my last player. DVD disc cost me too much.

Add VOB to that also....DVD ISO is comming too. And I think you mean Mpeg4. I can also confirm DivX HD playback at 1080p with no problems.

Kevin

Does limHD200i have support for unicode ?

I have some mp3s that use unicode in the ID3 tag. Also, I have a lot movies that uses Chinese character in the filenames. They are in unicode (NOT GB2312).
At present, it does not support unicode.

0625 is only a test version. Although it adds the network function, it is not satisfying. There are still many points in need of advancement. For example:
AVI (H.264 with AC3) - Firmware 0517 play good, apart from fast forward and reverse etc. Also, does not detect AC3 in the AVI files. 0625 no good, plays jerky, no AC3 sound, only stereo, no fast forward etc.
WMV-HD - 517 and 625 plays ok, but it does not decode into 5.1 surround (full details as posted on AVS)
SMB - connects, but cannot even play a low bite rate WMV file without stuttering etc!
The image in 0625 is too sharp, you get image shimmering - like on grills, lampshades etc

So at present 0517 is the most satisfying version. Except for lacking of network function, 0517 has better functions comparing with 0625. Thus we do not suggest you to upgrade 0517 to 0625 until the new version is perfected by tomacro.

Jackie

Any idea when the next cut of firmware is due?

Kevin

They should prefix the year to the firmware version (070517) or else we'll be looking at firmware 0101 next January...

They should prefix the year to the firmware version (070517) or else we'll be looking at firmware 0101 next January...

Tomacro engineer announced new official firmware will be issued at the beginning of next month. New firmware will resolve network share transfer bitrate, AC3 flag in AVI files, add FTP function. So the limHD200i will be the number one in all type of Hi-Definition HDD player based on sigma chip 8623.
Let's look forward to see a powerful firmware from Tomacro.

They should prefix the year to the firmware version (070517) or else we'll be looking at firmware 0101 next January...

:)

Looking forward to the next cut... :D

Kevin

Will post media info later today on another batch of files tested

Kevin

Tomacro engineer announced new official firmware will be issued at the beginning of next month. New firmware will resolve network share transfer bitrate, AC3 flag in AVI files, add FTP function. So the limHD200i will be the number one in all type of Hi-Definition HDD player based on sigma chip 8623.
Let's look forward to see a powerful firmware from Tomacro.

Well, please add unicode (UTF-8) support first.

Currently, few network media players support UTF-8, so the first one that come up with this feature will be in tremendous advantage. I know Apple TV supports it, but it doesn't have the features I want. limHD200i is great but it doesn't support unicode.

Well, please add unicode (UTF-8) support first.

Currently, few network media players support UTF-8, so the first one that come up with this feature will be in tremendous advantage. I know Apple TV supports it, but it doesn't have the features I want. limHD200i is great but it doesn't support unicode.

:o I'm embarrassed to ask, but what is unicode? :o

:)

:o I'm embarrassed to ask, but what is unicode? :o

:)

Any question you have - wikipedia (http://www.wikipedia.org/) is your friend.
Here's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode) what it knows about the Unicode encoding.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode

here you can find the answer ;-)

cHarOn

PS: oops russland was faster hehehe two guys same idea :D :D

:cool: Up-to-the-minute, good news from my chinese friend - TOMACRO's R&D has solved the BIG PUZZLE --- VC-1 with avi/ts container (REMUXed videos from BD & HD-DVD)!!! And till now, limHD200i can play almost all video files encoded by popular formats (Mpeg2, H.264, WMV9, VC-1, Divx-HD, Xvid-HD, Mpeg4, Mpeg1)in any container (mpg, tp, ts, mov, avi, wmv ......, except for mkv container) :D

Up-to-the-minute, good news from my chinese friend - TOMACRO's R&D has solved the BIG PUZZLE --- VC-1 with avi/ts container (REMUXed videos from BD & HD-DVD)!!! And till now, limHD200i can play almost all video files encoded by popular formats (Mpeg2, H.264, WMV9, VC-1, Divx-HD, Xvid-HD, Mpeg4, Mpeg1)in any container (mpg, tp, ts, mov, avi, wmv ......, except for mkv container)


Does anybody have a sample VC-1 clip in avi/ts container so that we could test?

I have many VC-1 (ts & avi container) videos, but i dont't know how to upload these BIG files. limHD200i can play VC-1 in .ts container flawlessly, i think it would be playing VC-1 videos in .avi container smoothly next week. WAITING......

I have many VC-1 (ts & avi container) videos, but i dont't know how to upload these BIG files. limHD200i can play VC-1 in .ts container flawlessly, i think it would be playing VC-1 videos in .avi container smoothly next week. WAITING......

Do you know how these VC1 files in TS container are made? I don't think the TSRemux tool is used because I see many Chinese movie files on the net that are VC1/TS and were made many months ago in 2006 (before TSRemux was released). If we knew how these files are made, it would be simpler to create small test clips and convert our own avi/mkv videos. Someone on the Chinese forums (http://www.chdtv.net/) must know what tools are needed. Thanks.

I have offered some UTF-8 support materials (including a comprehensive bitmapped font) to the Tomacro engineers to help get that feature implemented.

Hello everyone,
after reading in this thread for some time i have some questions too.
Does the Display show Foldernames when you browse the internal disk.
I have all my CD's stored on my tvix 4000 and use it as my main Musicplayer.
I want to replace it with a h264 enabled player and need to know if the disk contents can be identified without a monitor.
The player will be connected to a videoprojector wich i don't want to fire up for music-playback.
Is FLAC support planned for the future ?
I think that has been asked several times before but could not find a definite answer.
Aside of smb support are there any plans for nfs or upnp - both protocols are less demanding on the sigma processor.
ThanX in advance.
Thomas

Hello everyone,
after reading in this thread for some time i have some questions too.
Does the Display show Foldernames when you browse the internal disk.
I have all my CD's stored on my tvix 4000 and use it as my main Musicplayer.
I want to replace it with a h264 enabled player and need to know if the disk contents can be identified without a monitor.
The player will be connected to a videoprojector wich i don't want to fire up for music-playback.

NO...folder names are not displayed on the LimHd's own display

Is FLAC support planned for the future ?

I dont know, Jackie may be able answer this....

I think that has been asked several times before but could not find a definite answer.
Aside of smb support are there any plans for nfs or upnp - both protocols are less demanding on the sigma processor.

Lan streaming in being tweaked at the moment (SMB and NFS), and I'll report back on this with the release of the next firmware...

ThanX in advance.
Thomas

Hope that helps

Kevin

I have many VC-1 (ts & avi container) videos, but i dont't know how to upload these BIG files. limHD200i can play VC-1 in .ts container flawlessly, i think it would be playing VC-1 videos in .avi container smoothly next week. WAITING......

Use a tool to cut a segment out and post it on Rapidshare...

Kevin

Tvix M-4100SH Serious Problem
Last week, I asked my relatives bought a Tvx-HD M4100 SH from Hongkong, open packing quickly, according to the request of manual to install the hard disk drive which loaded 5 good HD movies, connected to my lately-buy TV set, A start screen appeared, set up system in accordance with the operation manual. OK!
Since there are only 5 films in my hands, so all finished watching.Let me talk about my tagic experience.
Remote became an electric tiger! ! ! Remote seems leakage. I have to install new batteries immediately after watching three films. I spend 10RMB in to buy four Wansheng batteries but only within two days they become exhausted. My Friends said there might be some problem with the remote design so it has so large consumption of electricity.
M4100SH has a stuttering defect! ! ! Two of Five films cannot be played fluently. "X-man III" and "Urgent II" stutter drastically, which made me so angry and disappointed since it is the first time for me to watch HD. I really suffer a lot from its awful playing.
M4100SH became the machinery to test your eyesight! ! ! Three of these 5 films have subtitles problems! Some seem to be lack of strokes, and some is difficult to identify. So I quickly ask a friend for help. He told me subtitles show quality definitely affected by the player and it is not the problem of the document.
M4100SH has worse temper than I do! ! ! During several days’ usage, the machine always has problems. Sometimes the remote does not work so I have to reset it. I don not know why.
I suffered too much from using the M4100SH for only one week. My attitude towards m4100SH changed from excited to frustrate, finally angry.
Is there anyone who can help me and how can I deal with it? Thank you so much.

Tvix M-4100SH Serious Problem
Last week, I asked my relatives bought a Tvx-HD M4100 SH from Hongkong, open packing quickly, according to the request of manual to install the hard disk drive which loaded 5 good HD movies, connected to my lately-buy TV set, A start screen appeared, set up system in accordance with the operation manual. OK!
Since there are only 5 films in my hands, so all finished watching.Let me talk about my tagic experience.
Remote became an electric tiger! ! ! Remote seems leakage. I have to install new batteries immediately after watching three films. I spend 10RMB in to buy four Wansheng batteries but only within two days they become exhausted. My Friends said there might be some problem with the remote design so it has so large consumption of electricity.
M4100SH has a stuttering defect! ! ! Two of Five films cannot be played fluently. "X-man III" and "Urgent II" stutter drastically, which made me so angry and disappointed since it is the first time for me to watch HD. I really suffer a lot from its awful playing.
M4100SH became the machinery to test your eyesight! ! ! Three of these 5 films have subtitles problems! Some seem to be lack of strokes, and some is difficult to identify. So I quickly ask a friend for help. He told me subtitles show quality definitely affected by the player and it is not the problem of the document.
M4100SH has worse temper than I do! ! ! During several days’ usage, the machine always has problems. Sometimes the remote does not work so I have to reset it. I don not know why.
I suffered too much from using the M4100SH for only one week. My attitude towards m4100SH changed from excited to frustrate, finally angry.
Is there anyone who can help me and how can I deal with it? Thank you so much.


Thanks for your post, seems tho you should have posted this in the Tvix M-4100SH thread?

Kevin

I use limHD200i to enjoy HD videos happily, But my friend is exasperated against his Tvx-HD M4100SH everyday, i suggest him to abandon the 'baby', he prepare to buy a limHD200i.

So which one of you guys is actually paid by Tomacro to extoll their product?

So which one of you guys is actually paid by Tomacro to extoll their product?

Hey...that's a bit low buddy!...I paid full price for my LimHD, thanks very much. All I'm doing here is helping both the community and providing test feedback to Tomacro (and at least they listen)

Some people eh?... :mad:

Kevin

Anyway....on with the business of testing and feedback.....anyone got any high bitrate VC1 files?

Kevin

So which one of you guys is actually paid by Tomacro to extoll their product?

I don't think this was meant for you oldpainless68. We appreciate your feedback and THAT is EXACTLY the kind of feedback we need. You at least you know what you are talking about.

I don't think this was meant for you oldpainless68. We appreciate your feedback and THAT is EXACTLY the kind of feedback we need. You at least you know what you are talking about.

:o Oh....well if that's the case I'm sorry....ops!

Kevin

So...getting ready for the next cut of firmware, and could do with some help. I could do with some high bite rate VC1 files, either in TS, AVI or m2ts....anyone got one or two or can provide a link?

Cheers

Kevin

Tvix M-4100SH Serious Problem
Last week, I asked my relatives bought a Tvx-HD M4100 SH from Hongkong, open packing quickly, according to the request of manual to install the hard disk drive which loaded 5 good HD movies, connected to my lately-buy TV set, A start screen appeared, set up system in accordance with the operation manual. OK!
Since there are only 5 films in my hands, so all finished watching.Let me talk about my tagic experience..................

Hello Brucelee1127, we suggest you return 4100SH to seller for a total refund, because you only bought it for one week.

Tvix M-4100SH Serious Problem
Last week, I asked my relatives bought a Tvx-HD M4100 SH from Hongkong, open packing quickly, according to the request of manual to install the hard disk drive which loaded 5 good HD movies, connected to my lately-buy TV set, A start screen appeared, set up system in accordance with the operation manual. OK!
Since there are only 5 films in my hands, so all finished watching.Let me talk about my tagic experience.
Remote became an electric tiger! ! ! Remote seems leakage. I have to install new batteries immediately after watching three films. I spend 10RMB in to buy four Wansheng batteries but only within two days they become exhausted. My Friends said there might be some problem with the remote design so it has so large consumption of electricity.
M4100SH has a stuttering defect! ! ! Two of Five films cannot be played fluently. "X-man III" and "Urgent II" stutter drastically, which made me so angry and disappointed since it is the first time for me to watch HD. I really suffer a lot from its awful playing.
M4100SH became the machinery to test your eyesight! ! ! Three of these 5 films have subtitles problems! Some seem to be lack of strokes, and some is difficult to identify. So I quickly ask a friend for help. He told me subtitles show quality definitely affected by the player and it is not the problem of the document.
M4100SH has worse temper than I do! ! ! During several days’ usage, the machine always has problems. Sometimes the remote does not work so I have to reset it. I don not know why.
I suffered too much from using the M4100SH for only one week. My attitude towards m4100SH changed from excited to frustrate, finally angry.
Is there anyone who can help me and how can I deal with it? Thank you so much.

Bruce

If you are going to write that sort of stuff, you need to back it up, otherwise it has no credibility at all..........

It's not for me to comment on any player that I know nothing about, but which files had problems, what codec, what container, what bit rate, what audio, describe your problem in more detail.....ok

Get hold of media info and G-spot

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MediaInfo
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/GSpot

Run the problem files through both these apps, and copy the info in your post when you say it will not play properly, and post your findings in the Tvx-HD M4100 SH thread....

Just my 2 cents in the interest of objectivity...and if you can post a sample of the problem files, even better, I'll test them on the LimHD and report back

Kevin

How does this interesting device handle JPEGs ?

- Is a slideshow provided with Music in the Background ?
- How fast does it load big JPEGs from e.g. 7. Megapixel-Cam ?
- Can you fastly "zap" through your JPEG-Collections ?
- Can you zoom in the JPEG ?
- Can you scroll in the zoomed JPEG ?

Thanks !
Palmo

How does this interesting device handle JPEGs ?

- Is a slideshow provided with Music in the Background ?
- How fast does it load big JPEGs from e.g. 7. Megapixel-Cam ?
- Can you fastly "zap" through your JPEG-Collections ?
- Can you zoom in the JPEG ?
- Can you scroll in the zoomed JPEG ?

Thanks !
Palmo

I haven't tested JPEG yet....I've got an 8meg camera...I'll take some pictures, test and report back.

Kevin

I don't think this was meant for you oldpainless68.
That is correct, it wasn't meant for him. I've bumped into Kevin on other forums, Doom9 for example.

On the topic, though. I e-mailed Tomacro some days ago about purchasing a unit for testing and they still haven't replied.

That is correct, it wasn't meant for him. I've bumped into Kevin on other forums, Doom9 for example.

On the topic, though. I e-mailed Tomacro some days ago about purchasing a unit for testing and they still haven't replied.

In that case; sorry bud.

Kevin

In that case; sorry bud.

Kevin
No prob, I should've been clearer.

So, no one with some high bit rate VC1 files?

Kevin

This is comming on nicely for those that cant play the MKV to AVI files....

MKV2TS V0.79

http://ambamo.free.fr/temp/mp4/MKV2TS.rar

Tried a couple of sample files and worked ok...

Kevin

This is comming on nicely for those that cant play the MKV to AVI files....

MKV2TS V0.79

Tried a couple of sample files and worked ok...

Kevin

Ive tried a converting alot movies with mkv2ts and it works about 1 in every 5 movies and then you end up with jerky/stuttering playback (on my tvix 4100) ... very hit n miss .. So its not worth the hassle or cpu time imho... We need someting better and more reliable than this program... Or a player that plays MKV's..

Ive tried a converting alot movies with mkv2ts and it works about 1 in every 5 movies and then you end up with jerky/stuttering playback (on my tvix 4100) ... very hit n miss .. So its not worth the hassle or cpu time imho... We need someting better and more reliable than this program... Or a player that plays MKV's..

I agree, its hit and miss (have you tried 0.79?) but the MKV to AVI method I've posted works 100% everytime on 720p files....on the LimHD anyway. The links to uploaded files are on this thread....how could I stop someone sending one of these to Tvix....I mean....I'd never know would I.... :cool:

Kevin

Are there signs that the stuttering playback is caused by problems in the output of mkv2ts, or is it possible the bitrate of the TS file is too high for the 4100SH?

Hi All,

I have been watching this thread and have decided to acquire this unit.

I plan to ultimately replace my HTPC. I built it up from a Silverstone case which has an integrated 7" LDC display with all the goodies. It has both BD and HD-DVD drives. It was fun to research and build, but overall I prefer the simplicty of the DMS's. I have a TVIX 4000 too.

I have sent GenDVD an email to check on stock.

Oldpainless68, any last thoughts I should know or consider before diving off?

Hi All,

I have been watching this thread and have decided to acquire this unit.

I plan to ultimately replace my HTPC. I built it up from a Silverstone case which has an integrated 7" LDC display with all the goodies. It has both BD and HD-DVD drives. It was fun to research and build, but overall I prefer the simplicty of the DMS's. I have a TVIX 4000 too.

I have sent GenDVD an email to check on stock.

Oldpainless68, any last thoughts I should know or consider before diving off?

Yeap.....if you'r after a media player thats perfect (is anything?) (GUI, firmware)---It's not for you.......but......If you want a player that has great output......can play virtualty everything (not MKV...maybe with new firmware)....and looks good in your AV setup...and this is from someone who is a right pain in arse for REAL detail (so my wife says!!)...yes....it's for you. On the basis that picture and sound quality are KEY,....yes....hand on heart...go for it...


Kevin

Thanks for the info.

I can live with some quirks while they work on the firmware. However, the one feature I want very very soon is networking. Is there any networking working yet?

Thanks for the info.

I can live with some quirks while they work on the firmware. However, the one feature I want very very soon is networking. Is there any networking working yet?

Yes, but it needs some work...SMB and NFS are being tweaked and I'll report back with the next cut of firmware.

Kevin

Yes, but it needs some work...SMB and NFS are being tweaked and I'll report back with the next cut of firmware.

Kevin

What website do you download the firmware upgrade from?

Yes, but it needs some work...SMB and NFS are being tweaked and I'll report back with the next cut of firmware.

Kevin

Somewhere I read it will have FTP server support. Seen that yet?

What website do you download the firmware upgrade from?

GenDVD host's the files on her site. Beta's gets mailed direct to me for testing.

Kevin

Somewhere I read it will have FTP server support. Seen that yet?

Not yet...but the next beta will be out in a few days...so I'll report back then.

Kevin

Do any of you know if this device can handle VC-1 and MPEG4 blu ray rips? And I hate to really push it, but what about HD DVD rips (.evo files)?

GenDVD host's the files on her site. Beta's gets mailed direct to me for testing.

Kevin


I was thinking about buying a unit.. would you say that it is still too early and I should wait?

Do any of you know if this device can handle VC-1 and MPEG4 blu ray rips? And I hate to really push it, but what about HD DVD rips (.evo files)?


Yeap...someone posted an m2ts files on this thread, played no problems. Mpeg4..what codec? AVC and H.264 play fine in TS or AVI.

As far the the last one, someone post a clip and I'll test.

Kevin

I was thinking about buying a unit.. would you say that it is still too early and I should wait?

Honestly, It depends on what sort of person you are. Is the limHD new..yes. This means firmware is still very young compared to the other more established players. Some people might find that frustrating...

But, if your like me (and I'm gonna kinda guess most here are...by the nature of the forum), I'm your kinda "christ...it can play that!!!" and I'm a bit of a perfectionist when I'm watching a movie. So I look for noise, contrast, croma, colour satuation and bleed, sharpness, motion movment etc.

If your the above type, yeap, it's for you. If your a "It won't fast forward on file XXX", then wait for a few more cuts of firmware.

Hope that helps.

Kevin

This was posted in another thread for those that missed it:

Quote:
Originally Posted by gendvd
Hello digitalkid 2, We sell limHD200i without HDD price at : $449, please visit our website http://www.gendvd.com/ for details.

Kevin

Honestly, It depends on what sort of person you are. Is the limHD new..yes. This means firmware is still very young compared to the other more established players. Some people might find that frustrating...

But, if your like me (and I'm gonna kinda guess most here are...by the nature of the forum), I'm your kinda "christ...it can play that!!!" and I'm a bit of a perfectionist when I'm watching a movie. So I look for noise, contrast, croma, colour satuation and bleed, sharpness, motion movment etc.

If your the above type, yeap, it's for you. If your a "It won't fast forward on file XXX", then wait for a few more cuts of firmware.

Hope that helps.

Kevin

Hi Kevin, do you think it is worth to spend another few hundreds $$$ for this unit as I own a Pixelmagic MB200, which I am not quite satisfy with? Will I get what I pay for?

BTW I am kinda guy like you when judging picture quality, although may not 100% in par.

;)

Hi Kevin, do you think it is worth to spend another few hundreds $$$ for this unit as I own a Pixelmagic MB200, which I am not quite satisfy with? Will I get what I pay for?

BTW I am kinda guy like you when judging picture quality, although may not 100% in par.

;)

I've no experience of the Pixelmagic...so I cant compare the two. For comparision, I was using the Xbox360 HD-DVD player at 720p over VGA. Using one of the HD-DVD's flagship titles, Superman Returns, and comparing it to a good MKV to AVI, I would give the HD-DVD a 5-6, and the LimHD a 9 - IMHO, that's the diference in quality, on my 130" screen.

Hope that helps.

Kevin

I've no experience of the Pixelmagic...so I cant compare the two. For comparision, I was using the Xbox360 HD-DVD player at 720p over VGA. Using one of the HD-DVD's flagship titles, Superman Returns, and comparing it to a good MKV to AVI, I would give the HD-DVD a 5-6, and the LimHD a 9 - IMHO, that's the diference in quality, on my 130" screen.

Hope that helps.

Kevin

6 compare to 9, that is a HUGE difference !

Have you tried playback broken .ts HDTV files from Hard Drive, if this Lim can joined it smoothly without noticeable interruption in between files?
That is what my MB200 exactly do! :D

BIG difference:

limHD200i is base on EM8623, it support H.264,VC-1 video playback

MB200 is base on Em8621, it can't support H.264,VC-1 video playback

6 compare to 9, that is a HUGE difference !

Have you tried playback broken .ts HDTV files from Hard Drive, if this Lim can joined it smoothly without noticeable interruption in between files?
That is what my MB200 exactly do! :D


5-6 to 9.....yes...but IMHO, that's the difference. Broken TS playback, don't know - I joined all of mine - but I'll check and report back.

Kevin

BIG difference:

limHD200i is base on EM8623, it support H.264,VC-1 video playback

MB200 is base on Em8621, it can't support H.264,VC-1 video playback

Playbacks H264 in absolutely smooth flow, both picture and sound ?

How does this interesting device handle JPEGs ?

- Is a slideshow provided with Music in the Background ?

No music - unless I missed something. Slideshow settings can be set to 5, 10,15,20,25,30 seconds per pic.

- How fast does it load big JPEGs from e.g. 7. Megapixel-Cam ?

Pics from an 8meg camera takes about 2.5 seconds

- Can you fastly "zap" through your JPEG-Collections ?

Yeap

- Can you zoom in the JPEG ?

Yeap - although sometimes when you zoom back out...the image colouration has changed - I'll report this

- Can you scroll in the zoomed JPEG ?

Yeap - but same comment as above, again, I'll report it.


Thanks !
Palmo

Hope that helps.

Kevin

Playbacks H264 in absolutely smooth flow, both picture and sound ?

If in a ts/mov etc container....playback is perfect upto 1080p.

If you use my remux MKV (H.264 codec) to AVI method to posted, 720p only at the mo, test files for MKV to AVI 1080p are with GenDVD.

Kevin

Looks like they are working on modifing my MKV to AVI method to ouput TS......


http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.homecinema-fr.com/forum/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D29842614%26postdays%3D0%26postorder%3Das c%26start%3D2445%26sid%3Dcc39982f91e1d7bfaefb9566867ad3ca&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmkv2ts%2BMain%2BConcept%2BMP4%2BDemultiplexer%2 6hl%3Den

One to watch...but they can't get is to work all the time or for 1080P MKV's

Kevin

Here you go folks.....£224.29 without the hard drive.....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320133305563&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_RCRX_Pr4_PcY_BIN_IT&refitem=320116308683&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&usedrule1=CrossSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget


Although, Jackie, you need to remove mkv from the add.....or at least until the new firmware supports it...

Kevin

Guys.....I've cracked it.....1080p MVK samples to TS and it plays perfect on the LimHD......so here goes....

All links are in this thread for the tools needed...

Install the K-Lite mega codec pack....

Download MKV2TS (unpack, go to tool, and run register bat, we need the fiters)

Get MKV extract

Get Elecard Mux Pro and the AVC plugin....(I used pro beta)

Right,

step 1:

Run your MKV through MKV extract, extract both the video and audio stream..

Step 2:

Open graphedit...(program's, K-Lite Mega Codec pack, graphedit)
Drag your H.264 file into the graphedit window..., remove the AVC video decoder and video render boxs....goto graph, insert filters.....click directshow filters, scroll down to elecard sink filter and double click...name you output XXX.ts, conect the H.264 to the sink filter and press the green play button...you now have a Video only TS file.

Open elecard xmuxer pro

Goto mux, add files....grab your TS file, then add the AC3 file. Press the >> and tranfer all files to the right hand window. Select output and make sure save type as TS. Name your file XXXX.ts and press start.

Job done.........1080p MKV to 1080P TS and they play great on the LimHD, no stuttering!!...perfect...now off to test on some films.

Have fun!

Kevin

For completeness....mediainfo of original file:

File size : 75.7 MiB
PlayTime : 58s 219ms
Bit rate : 11 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2007-06-30 12:15:26
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.0.2 ('You're My Flame') built on Feb 21 2007 23:40:55
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-4 AVC
Codec/Info : MPEG4 ISO advanced profile
PlayTime : 58s 125ms
Width : 1920 pixels
Height : 792 pixels
Aspect ratio : 2.424
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Title : x264 / 1080p
Language : English

Audio #0
Codec : AC3
Codec/Info : Dolby AC3
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Title : AC-3 / 640Kb
Language : English

Kevin

I will do more 1080p MKV to TS tests and report back...

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Kevin

step 1:

Run your MKV through MKV extract, extract both the video and audio stream..
I'm sorry to say, but that's generally a bad idea. When h264 broadcasting started here in Germany, I used to demux/extract video and audio streams and remux them in a second step. This worked for about 75% of the movies. But with about 25% of the movies I had severe audio sync problems. E.g. the audio was in sync in the beginning of the movie, but lost sync somewhere in the middle of the movie. So I stopped doing it this way.

Today I'm only using remuxing, while preserving the original timestamps (Haali Media Splitter -> Haali Matroska Muxer). You should never demux h264, because you'll lose the timestamps that way, which can (as said above) result in audio sync problems.

Step 2:

Open graphedit...(program's, K-Lite Mega Codec pack, graphedit)
Drag your H.264 file into the graphedit window..., remove the AVC video decoder and video render boxs....goto graph, insert filters.....click directshow filters, scroll down to elecard sink filter and double click...name you output XXX.ts, conect the H.264 to the sink filter and press the green play button...you now have a Video only TS file.
Haven't tested that, but can't you use Haali's Media Splitter on the original MKV file and plug the video output of the Haali Media Splitter directly into the elecard sink filter? That way you wouldn't have to extract/demux the video track. However, I'm not sure if the timecodes of the MKV container are preserved this way.

My recommendations for all you guys who (unlike me) are willing to remux their h264 MKV files, I'd suggest waiting for the next version of TsRemux (see Doom9 forum). The author of that software is currently working on MKV input capability. TsRemux should be able to preserve the MKV timestamps, so audio sync should always be preserved.

I'm sorry to say, but that's generally a bad idea. When h264 broadcasting started here in Germany, I used to demux/extract video and audio streams and remux them in a second step. This worked for about 75% of the movies. But with about 25% of the movies I had severe audio sync problems. E.g. the audio was in sync in the beginning of the movie, but lost sync somewhere in the middle of the movie. So I stopped doing it this way.

Today I'm only using remuxing, while preserving the original timestamps (Haali Media Splitter -> Haali Matroska Muxer). You should never demux h264, because you'll lose the timestamps that way, which can (as said above) result in audio sync problems.


Haven't tested that, but can't you use Haali's Media Splitter on the original MKV file and plug the video output of the Haali Media Splitter directly into the elecard sink filter? That way you wouldn't have to extract/demux the video track. However, I'm not sure if the timecodes of the MKV container are preserved this way.

My recommendations for all you guys who (unlike me) are willing to remux their h264 MKV files, I'd suggest waiting for the next version of TsRemux (see Doom9 forum). The author of that software is currently working on MKV input capability. TsRemux should be able to preserve the MKV timestamps, so audio sync should always be preserved.

Hi Madshi, yes in general, it's a bad idea to demux MKV's....but so far this seems to be working...I'll look into using Haali in the chain and report back. And I'm looking foward (as you know) to TSremux supporting a direct MKV input.

My main point here is that the LimHD 1080p MKV to 1080p TS files!!! which is a BIG bonus, and would suggest that they might crack the MKV as a directly playable container.

Also, the main issue with demuxing only seems to apply to VFR not CFR. It could be that broadcast MKV's use VFR, but the MKV's which have been encoded by other sourcse may use CFR.

I'll continue to test more files.....but the main point for this thread...is the LimHD plays 1080p MKV to 1080P TS.... :D

Kevin

Haven't tested that, but can't you use Haali's Media Splitter on the original MKV file and plug the video output of the Haali Media Splitter directly into the elecard sink filter? That way you wouldn't have to extract/demux the video track. However, I'm not sure if the timecodes of the MKV container are preserved this way.

No. Looks like when you inport the MKV directly into Graphedit, Haali is already being used as the splitter....so you have problems with demux and remux....

MMMM....hold everything.....looks like the 1st 1080p MKV was CFR, and everyother 1080P MKV has been VFR, so you do loose the time stamp.....I will continue to investigate. Next time I'll test more that one file.....

:o

Kevin

limHD200i 0517, 0531 firmware and English manual downloading:
http://www.gendvd.com/service.asp#software

yes in general, it's a bad idea to demux MKV's
No, you misunderstood me totally. It's not a bad idea at all to demux AC3, DTS, MP3, MPEG2 or anything else from MKV or AVI or any other container. No probs. However, it is problematic to demux a h264 video stream, regardless about which container (MKV, TS, AVI, ...) we're talking.

I had problems demuxing h264 from TS (German broadcasting) and I had also problems demuxing h264 from HD DVD (e.g. "Equilibrium" movie). Demuxing works and remuxing into any container also works, but there are sometimes audio sync issues afterwards. This is no problem related to MKV, but it's a problem related to h264.

My main point here is that the LimHD 1080p MKV to 1080p TS files!!!
There was never any doubt about that (on my side at least) because MKV is just a container. If the LimHD can do Blu-Ray h264 and VC1 1080p playback, it should do every other source with ease. It's not the container which is the problem, but usually the decoding of the video stream. And there's nothing special in MKV which makes video streams any different.

Also, the main issue with demuxing only seems to apply to VFR not CFR. It could be that broadcast MKV's use VFR, but the MKV's which have been encoded by other sourcse may use CFR.
CBR video encodes are rare. Most video sources are VBR. Broadcasting here in Germany is VBR. Broadcasting in the US is usually VBR. DVD, Blu-Ray and HD DVD are also all VBR.

the main point for this thread...is the LimHD plays 1080p MKV to 1080P TS.... :D
That was never a question for me... :) As long as the bitrate isn't too high. 11Mbit/s is rather low. Try 20Mbit/s, some German/UK h264 broadcasts are that high. Or try some 40Mbit/s Blu-Ray H264 videos. E.g. the Pirates of the Carribean Blu-Rays are quite taxing.

Look, MKV is just like a drawer. You can put a video track in it and some audio tracks. AVI is another drawer. And VOB/EVO is another drawer. These drawers are empty and do absolutey *nothing* but hold some video/audio tracks. A h264 video track taken from a MKV drawer is no different than a h264 video track taken from a TS or AVI drawer. Basically you can convert any video and audio between any container/drawer without any loss, as long as you just demux (take the video/audio track out of one drawer) and remux (put it into another drawer). Understood? The only problem are the timecodes. If you demux and remux, you are losing timecodes and that can in some cases (especially with h264) be problematic. If you directly remux from one container to another with a tool that preservers the timecodes, this problem should be gone.

The main reason why MKV is everyone's darling is because it has barely any restriction about which video and audio formats you can throw into it. Most other containers do have some strange restrictions (e.g. MP4 allows h264, but it doesn't allow AC3 and DTS!!!). Also there are nice tools available to handle/edit MKV.

MMMM....hold everything.....looks like the 1st 1080p MKV was CFR, and everyother 1080P MKV has been VFR, so you do loose the time stamp.....I will continue to investigate. If it's CFR, this method works....Next time I'll test more that one file.....

:o

Kevin

No, you misunderstood me totally. It's not a bad idea at all to demux AC3, DTS, MP3, MPEG2 or anything else from MKV or AVI or any other container. No probs. However, it is problematic to demux a h264 video stream, regardless about which container (MKV, TS, AVI, ...) we're talking.

I had problems demuxing h264 from TS (German broadcasting) and I had also problems demuxing h264 from HD DVD (e.g. "Equilibrium" movie). Demuxing works and remuxing into any container also works, but there are sometimes audio sync issues afterwards. This is no problem related to MKV, but it's a problem related to h264.


There was never any doubt about that (on my side at least) because MKV is just a container. If the LimHD can do Blu-Ray h264 and VC1 1080p playback, it should do every other source with ease. It's not the container which is the problem, but usually the decoding of the video stream. And there's nothing special in MKV which makes video streams any different.


CBR video encodes are rare. Most video sources are VBR. Broadcasting here in Germany is VBR. Broadcasting in the US is usually VBR. DVD, Blu-Ray and HD DVD are also all VBR.


That was never a question for me... :) As long as the bitrate isn't too high. 11Mbit/s is rather low. Try 20Mbit/s, some German/UK h264 broadcasts are that high. Or try some 40Mbit/s Blu-Ray H264 videos. E.g. the Pirates of the Carribean Blu-Rays are quite taxing.

Look, MKV is just like a drawer. You can put a video track in it and some audio tracks. AVI is another drawer. And VOB/EVO is another drawer. These drawers are empty and do absolutey *nothing* but hold some video/audio tracks. A h264 video track taken from a MKV drawer is no different than a h264 video track taken from a TS or AVI drawer. Basically you can convert any video and audio between any container/drawer without any loss, as long as you just demux (take the video/audio track out of one drawer) and remux (put it into another drawer). Understood? The only problem are the timecodes. If you demux and remux, you are losing timecodes and that can in some cases (especially with h264) be problematic. If you directly remux from one container to another with a tool that preservers the timecodes, this problem should be gone.

The main reason why MKV is everyone's darling is because it has barely any restriction about which video and audio formats you can throw into it. Most other containers do have some strange restrictions (e.g. MP4 allows h264, but it doesn't allow AC3 and DTS!!!). Also there are nice tools available to handle/edit MKV.


True, but the problem seems to come if you demux an MKV file (or any file) that has been encoded with VFR (Variable Frame Rate...not bit rate). It seems that virtually every 720p MKV I've come across is encoded with Constant Frame Rate, so my method for 720p MKV to AVI or TS works with the finished file in sync. But as you said, with Variable Frame Rate (the x.264 VFR codec is quicker and keeps the file sizes down with 1080p), the timestamp for the sync is in the container, so if you demux/mux, its out of sync.

Re the bitate, I've tested AVC and Mpeg2 upto 40mbps with no prob's.

The sooner Tsremux can take a direct MKV the better (yes I know he has a life, and he gets enough hassel as it is...lol).

Regards

Kevin

Either that...or I'm talking outta my backside again....more than likely . :) ....anyway on with more tests!..

Kevin

What is still kinda missing for me is tests with high bitrate video over network. Cause that's what I need... :)

What is still kinda missing for me is tests with high bitrate video over network. Cause that's what I need... :)

Next beta cut should be out soon, so I'll report back.

Kevin

Kevin, I don't remember if you already tested VC-1 vide with DD+ audio in high resolutions on limHD?
Does it play smoothly? Currently, TViX 4100SH fails them.

Kevin, I don't remember if you already tested VC-1 vide with DD+ audio in high resolutions on limHD?
Does it play smoothly? Currently, TViX 4100SH fails them.

I tested a BD m2ts and played fine with no problems. If you have any files that you wanted tested on LimHD....post a link and I'll test them and report back. Although my amp does not have HDMI input, so I can only test the DD out over coax.

Kevin

Jackie

That fact that I have got the LimHD to play 720p/1080p MKV to TS (albeit CFR) means that the Tomacro propeller head's should be able to construct the right code (for VFR and CFR, reading the MKV container for the timestamps) to accept a direct MKV as a playable format. There's now enough information in this thread to give them all the information they need. They could also do with MKVinfo (part of MKVtoolnix to look at MKV structure).

Let me know on here or via email if there is any other info I can provide them.

Kevin

So, whilst we wait.....anyone have any high bitrate VC1 files (BD) to test?

Kevin

I tested a BD m2ts and played fine with no problems. If you have any files that you wanted tested on LimHD....post a link and I'll test them and report back. Although my amp does not have HDMI input, so I can only test the DD out over coax.

Kevin

Just cut some VC-1 .ts files:
file1 (http://rapidshare.com/files/40694093/mi_cut.ts)
file2 (http://rapidshare.com/files/40697976/cr_cut.ts)

Both these files and their full versions stutter with TViX4100SH.
TSRemux reports that PCR is missing though.
Could you check whether limHD can decode them.

1080p file using your process MKV2VFR. Let me know if it works.

file1 (http://www.mxgalliance.org/test/casino1080p.avi)

Thanks,
LianLi

1080p file using your process MKV2VFR. Let me know if it works.

file1 (http://www.mxgalliance.org/test/casino1080p.avi)

Thanks,
LianLi

I'll try it....but if you read my post's, 1080p MKV's seem to have problems with everything (x.264 VFR codec?) Although saying that, if you converted this from a "sample", they tend to be CFR........give me about an hour and I'll report back.

K

Just cut some VC-1 .ts files:
file1 (http://rapidshare.com/files/40694093/mi_cut.ts)
file2 (http://rapidshare.com/files/40697976/cr_cut.ts)

Both these files and their full versions stutter with TViX4100SH.
TSRemux reports that PCR is missing though.
Could you check whether limHD can decode them.

I'll test and report back. I have ran these through graphedit and mediainfo...they look very odd. Graphedit show three audio only stream!!....anyhows, I'll check.

Kevin

Just cut some VC-1 .ts files:
file1 (http://rapidshare.com/files/40694093/mi_cut.ts)
file2 (http://rapidshare.com/files/40697976/cr_cut.ts)

Both these files and their full versions stutter with TViX4100SH.
TSRemux reports that PCR is missing though.
Could you check whether limHD can decode them.

Firmware 0517
file 1 - Plays virtually flawless. I think it may have droped about 3 frames throughout the clip. What was the bit rate/res of the clip?...I get no info from mediainfo on this clip.

file 2 - played perfect upto 17 seconds, then lost audio and droped frames.

Jackie, might be worth pointing Tomacro at these samples.

Tested both clips with 0625 firmware, both played perfect (it picked up a DTS track in file 2.)

So, let's hope the next cut of beta takes the best bits from 0625 and 0517....and adds a few bits

Russland....can you post the info for both these files?

Cheers.

Kevin

1080p file using your process MKV2VFR. Let me know if it works.

file1 (http://www.mxgalliance.org/test/casino1080p.avi)

Thanks,
LianLi

Slideshow with audio....


This whole MKV thing is a pain....I can remux some 1080p MKV's into AVI or TS and they play fine, others, no-go. Still, TSremux is on the way....

Kevin

For the hell of it, I took an MKV 1080p file, and just renamed it as a TS file.....the LimHD picked up the file and played it, but audio only; interesting (scratch's his chin.....)

Kevin

Lastly, I can confirm that virtually every 1080p MKV is VFR. Run it though MKV extract, and you see the audio is shorter that the video track...however, if I run the MKV through MKV2VFR, it reports the video track as a constant framerate. So the timestamp for the A/V sync is in the container.

Kevin

Latest on TSremux

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1021125#post1021125

Kevin (and others),

This is a very interesting thread, entertainment during morning coffee, lunch coffee and afternoon coffee. Great stuff indeed.

Just a quick question from me today. As I have a videoprocessor/scaler which can accept 480i/576i on HDMI I would very much like that as an output from the streamer. Reading the spec on lim200 it only says 480p/576p (not "i").
Could you (or any other) check if that is possible on HDMI?

So far the 4100/5100 can do it, but as we all know it has other limitations ;)

Any more news regarding a group buy?

(oops, that made two questions... :p )

M.

Kevin (and others),

This is a very interesting thread, entertainment during morning coffee, lunch coffee and afternoon coffee. Great stuff indeed.

Just a quick question from me today. As I have a videoprocessor/scaler which can accept 480i/576i on HDMI I would very much like that as an output from the streamer. Reading the spec on lim200 it only says 480p/576p (not "i").
Could you (or any other) check if that is possible on HDMI?

So far the 4100/5100 can do it, but as we all know it has other limitations ;)

Any more news regarding a group buy?

(oops, that made two questions... :p )

M.

Yeap...looks like it can....but my TV has problems displaying 480i over HDMI...but it can display 576i over HDMI. Just to be certain, can anyone who has a LimHD double check for me please.

Hope that helps.

Kevin

Firmware 0517
file 1 - Plays virtually flawless. I think it may have droped about 3 frames throughout the clip. What was the bit rate/res of the clip?...I get no info from mediainfo on this clip.

file 2 - played perfect upto 17 seconds, then lost audio and droped frames.

Jackie, might be worth pointing Tomacro at these samples.

Tested both clips with 0625 firmware, both played perfect (it picked up a DTS track in file 2.)

So, let's hope the next cut of beta takes the best bits from 0625 and 0517....and adds a few bits

Russland....can you post the info for both these files?

Cheers.

Kevin

Ok! surely I will reflet this to them.

Yeap...looks like it can....but my TV has problems displaying 480i over HDMI...but it can display 576i over HDMI. Just to be certain, can anyone who has a LimHD double check for me please.

Hope that helps.

Kevin
I am a little confused.Why we should display 480i over HDMI since 480i is so low?For 480i ,You can choose YPbPr to display. It will much better than use HDMI.

Jackie

That fact that I have got the LimHD to play 720p/1080p MKV to TS (albeit CFR) means that the Tomacro propeller head's should be able to construct the right code (for VFR and CFR, reading the MKV container for the timestamps) to accept a direct MKV as a playable format. There's now enough information in this thread to give them all the information they need. They could also do with MKVinfo (part of MKVtoolnix to look at MKV structure).

Let me know on here or via email if there is any other info I can provide them.

Kevin
Thank you so much for your information got from your laborious test and conclusion. I am sure all of the valuable information will do great help to Tomacro. I will transfer them to Tomacro.

I am a little confused.Why we should display 480i over HDMI since 480i is so low?
The reason is simple: All modern displays/projectors are progressive. They cannot display 480i as it is. However, all SD sources (SD broadcasting + SD DVDs) are encoded in 480i. So obviously somebody has to deinterlace 480i to 480p and then upscale that to the native resolution of the display.

Now if the LimHD takes a 480i source and outputs it in 480p, the LimHD obviously deinterlaces 480i to 480p. That's a bad idea, if you have a very good display/projector because deinterlacing is very difficult to do right and a good display will do that much better than the LimHD box. That's the reason why many of us want 480i and 576i output capability. That gives us better image quality.

For 480i ,You can choose YPbPr to display. It will much better than use HDMI.
You mean analog component output? If you use that, the LimHD has to do a DA (digital to analog) conversion and the display has to do a AD (analog to digital) conversion. Again that's bad for image quality. The best choice for image quality when playing back SD content is 480i/576i over HDMI. And not in RGB but in YCbCr (HDMI supports both RGB and YCbCr color spaces).

A very good answer madshi!

So now it is only to get it confirmed or not.

M.

Ok...

Now checked on my Projector....the LimHD can output 480i/576i over HDMI. My projector's info shows 1440x480i and 1440x576i.

Kevin

Ok...

Now checked on my Projector....the LimHD can output 480i/576i over HDMI.

Kevin

Great!
You had the Tx200 as well (if I recall correctly). Great little bugger that is ;)

But a weird resolution? 1440x480i? Supposed to be 720x480i or 720x576i, or?
Just read the manual again, and have a question in that respect.
How about the 50/60Hz (59.97) settings. Is there an auto-switch as the Tvix have, such that it will switch to 50Hz when using PAL material, and 60Hz when doing NTSC material? That is something us PAL people would find useful.

Thanks.

M.

Great!
You had the Tx200 as well (if I recall correctly). Great little bugger that is ;)

But a weird resolution? 1440x480i? Supposed to be 720x480i or 720x576i, or?
Just read the manual again, and have a question in that respect.
How about the 50/60Hz (59.97) settings. Is there an auto-switch as the Tvix have, such that it will switch to 50Hz when using PAL material, and 60Hz when doing NTSC material? That is something us PAL people would find useful.

Thanks.

M.

Firstly, a big thanks to the mod for sorting my password issue out so soon!! Cheers.

Right, to answer the question - no, but you can manually set the output to pal or ntsc...

Kevin

Looks like someone is starting a thread on the whole MKV to AVI/TS thing on AVS....

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=869795

Someone should tell um, it's been covered in so much detail in this thread its unreal!!!...lol

And using VLC...has anyone ever managed to get the transcoding to work for MKV? never thought of that... :rolleyes:

Kevin

Firmware 0517
file 1 - Plays virtually flawless. I think it may have droped about 3 frames throughout the clip. What was the bit rate/res of the clip?...I get no info from mediainfo on this clip.

file 2 - played perfect upto 17 seconds, then lost audio and droped frames.

Jackie, might be worth pointing Tomacro at these samples.

Tested both clips with 0625 firmware, both played perfect (it picked up a DTS track in file 2.)

So, let's hope the next cut of beta takes the best bits from 0625 and 0517....and adds a few bits

Russland....can you post the info for both these files?

Cheers.

Kevin

Well, I don't have media info on these files. I used the same tools as you and their output was odd. When people started complaining about VC-1 problems on 4100SH I decided to download a couple of samples and try. The only info we can deduct is from file name. Here is the original file names:
07.05.14.MOVIE_NAME.HD-DVD.Remux.VC-1.1080p.DDplus.DD51
07.04.02.MOVIE_NAME.HDDVD.REMUX.VC-1.1080P.DTS.EAC3.19.4G

So, we did find some files (VC-1) that are supported by limHD but fail with TViX. If Dvico does not implement this codec support then I'll have to exchange my 4100SH in favor of limHD.

Edit: apparently TViX also plays these files flawlessly from internal HDD, so we haven't found any files playable with limHD and not supported by 4100/5100

Well, I don't have media info on these files. I used the same tools as you and their output was odd. When people started complaining about VC-1 problems on 4100SH I decided to download a couple of samples and try. The only info we can deduct is from file name. Here is the original file names:
07.05.14.MOVIE_NAME.HD-DVD.Remux.VC-1.1080p.DDplus.DD51
07.04.02.MOVIE_NAME.HDDVD.REMUX.VC-1.1080P.DTS.EAC3.19.4G

So, we did find some files (VC-1) that are supported by limHD but fail with TViX. If Dvico does not implement this codec support then I'll have to exchange my 4100SH in favor of limHD.

Thanks for that. Like I said, with 0625 they play fine....even tho they wouldn't play on my PC...but I think maybe cus they were odd files.

Kevin

If Dvico does not implement this codec support then I'll have to exchange my 4100SH in favor of limHD

Just a quick question. How responsive do people find the likes of Dvico et al.

Kevin

But a weird resolution? 1440x480i? Supposed to be 720x480i or 720x576i, or?
480i and 576i result in a too low data rate for the HDMI specification. They can still be transported, but the pixels are doubled to raise the data rate to a level which is supported by the HDMI specification. That's why you see 1440 instead of 720. But in reality each pixel is doubled. The HDMI receiver chip should be able to undo the pixel doubling without any problem.

Just a quick question. How responsive do people find the likes of Dvico et al.
I haven't contacted Dvico personally, but there's no way, NO WAY, it could be worse than PMS (Pixel Magic Systems), the makers of HD Media Box and Crystalio scalers. I'm still waiting for a reply from Tomacro to the e-mail I sent them some days ago.

Just a quick question. How responsive do people find the likes of Dvico et al.

Kevin

Well, their response is quite fast.
If you post a question on their web portal then you'll have answer within 2-3 days.
They started producing FW upgrades very often - 3 per month but now they haven't issued anything for a long time.

I don't think that they listen to our wishes and remarks very much, they just implement the features they think would be essential. It seems that they don't have beta-testing of their FW.

Having said that, Dvico always responds with informative answer so that I don't have to ask again.

This is my experience and it's based on 3 months support only. I believe people with older devices may have a little negative feedback.

I'm still waiting for a reply from Tomacro to the e-mail I sent them some days ago.


Jackie - Any chance you could check on this?

Kevin

Thanks for the info...I was just curious about support from other manufacturers.

Kevin

Just out of curiosity.....

Has anyone tried the last method I posted for remuxing a 720p MKV into a 720p TS file?...or should I post a sample so you guys can test on other players?

Kevin

Just out of curiosity.....

Has anyone tried the last method I posted for remuxing a 720p MKV into a 720p TS file?...or should I post a sample so you guys can test on other players?

Kevin

Where is this method I could give it ago ...

Also Dvico have replied to about wmv-hd (xbox360 hd stuff i believe)
in the 5100/4100 thread .. May interest you.

480i and 576i result in a too low data rate for the HDMI specification. They can still be transported, but the pixels are doubled to raise the data rate to a level which is supported by the HDMI specification. That's why you see 1440 instead of 720. But in reality each pixel is doubled. The HDMI receiver chip should be able to undo the pixel doubling without any problem.

It still sounds weird ;)
I assume you have scaler already (as I also do, a VP30). So when transmitting this resolution the HDMI receiver should be able to properly input e.g. 720x480i into the "scaler-circuitry"?

That is also one of the reasons I want to change streamer, as my old 5000 only do 480/576p out (on SD material).

M.

It still sounds weird ;)
Yeah, it does.

I assume you have scaler already (as I also do, a VP30).
I had a number of scalers, but don't have one at this point in time.

So when transmitting this resolution the HDMI receiver should be able to properly input e.g. 720x480i into the "scaler-circuitry"?
Absolutely.

I had a number of scalers, but don't have one at this point in time.

And you do not see a reason to get one again either, or?

With so many upscalers (players, receivers, TVs and PJs) it seems less and less important to have one. In fact it makes it cumbersome sometimes, as with this 480i/p issue.
Although I just love mine, at least for letting the "misses" finally being able to watch a movie by herself without to much hassle. Long story... but it sure helps, and the picture and connectivity are great.

M.

And you do not see a reason to get one again either, or?

With so many upscalers (players, receivers, TVs and PJs) it seems less and less important to have one. In fact it makes it cumbersome sometimes, as with this 480i/p issue.
Although I just love mine, at least for letting the "misses" finally being able to watch a movie by herself without to much hassle. Long story... but it sure helps, and the picture and connectivity are great.
HD content has taken control of my movie watching. I've stopped watching SD alltogether (with VERY few exceptions). So basically I don't care about SD, anymore. That takes away one good reason for a scaler. Furthermore I'm currently doing everything through my HTPC. Since the HTPC can't even give out a good interlaced signal, a scaler wouldn't have much of a point in my current setup. I don't rule out buying a scaler again in the future, though, depending on which other devices I'll have.

HD content has taken control of my movie watching. I've stopped watching SD alltogether (with VERY few exceptions). So basically I don't care about SD, anymore. That takes away one good reason for a scaler. Furthermore I'm currently doing everything through my HTPC. Since the HTPC can't even give out a good interlaced signal, a scaler wouldn't have much of a point in my current setup. I don't rule out buying a scaler again in the future, though, depending on which other devices I'll have.
That explain it ;)

M.

Ok...

Here's a link for an 720p MKV to TS using the last method I posted....let me know how you get on.

http://rapidshare.com/files/40780552/Swat720pMKVtoTS.ts.html


Kevin

For those that missed it, here's the method:

All links are in this thread for the tools needed...

Install the K-Lite mega codec pack....

Download MKV2TS (0.79) (unpack, go to tool, and run register bat, we need the fiters)

Get MKV extract

Get Elecard Mux Pro and the AVC plugin....(I used pro beta)

Right,

step 1:

Run your MKV through MKV extract, extract both the video and audio stream..

Step 2:

Open graphedit...(program's, K-Lite Mega Codec pack, graphedit)
Drag your H.264 file into the graphedit window..., remove the AVC video decoder and video render boxs....goto graph, insert filters.....click directshow filters, scroll down to elecard sink filter and double click...name you output XXX.ts, conect the H.264 to the sink filter and press the green play button...you now have a Video only TS file.

Open elecard xmuxer pro

Goto mux, add files....grab your TS file, then add the AC3 file. Press the >> and tranfer all files to the right hand window. Select output and make sure save type as TS. Name your file XXXX.ts and press start (xmuxer can be a little odd, so you may need to add audio 1st)

There you go....job done.

Side note: don't try this on 1080p MKV's - it wont work. 99% of 720p MKV's will work fine and stay in sync with this method.

Kevin

Well, I don't have media info on these files. I used the same tools as you and their output was odd. When people started complaining about VC-1 problems on 4100SH I decided to download a couple of samples and try. The only info we can deduct is from file name. Here is the original file names:
07.05.14.MOVIE_NAME.HD-DVD.Remux.VC-1.1080p.DDplus.DD51
07.04.02.MOVIE_NAME.HDDVD.REMUX.VC-1.1080P.DTS.EAC3.19.4G

So, we did find some files (VC-1) that are supported by limHD but fail with TViX. If Dvico does not implement this codec support then I'll have to exchange my 4100SH in favor of limHD.

Tomacro will issue their the latest firmware in the near future, we have its test version now, and we tested The Mummy Returns (HDDVDvc1-Remux 1080P_dts) , Aeon.Flux (HD-DVD Remux VC-1, dts ), play flawless.

Damn, this unit sounds just better and better ;)

I seriously need to read this thread again and find all the supported and non-supported stuff.
Has anyone made a list over unsupported features?

E.g.
NFS/SAMBA support
MP3 id3 tags
Rotate pictures
Webradio
Webbrowser (just gonna mention it)
Playlists (music, pictures and video)
Bookmarks (internal HDD as well as network)

Now that I feel the unit "does it all", I need to focus on the extras.
Btw, how is the remote?

M.

Testing new beta at the moment...

Kevin

Damn, this unit sounds just better and better ;)

I seriously need to read this thread again and find all the supported and non-supported stuff.
Has anyone made a list over unsupported features?

E.g.
NFS/SAMBA support
MP3 id3 tags
Rotate pictures
Webradio
Webbrowser (just gonna mention it)
Playlists (music, pictures and video)
Bookmarks (internal HDD as well as network)

Now that I feel the unit "does it all", I need to focus on the extras.
Btw, how is the remote?

M.

Remotes ok....it's not a colour Pronto....but it does the job... :)

Kevin

So, anyone tested this MKV to TS method yet (and the sample I've gone to the trouble of posting .. :) )

If your very, very, very unlucky, you may have a 720p MKV VFR, don't give up as virtually all 720p MKV's are CFR.

Let me know how you get on.

Kevin

Hey Kevin, are you able to make a playlist of video files (say, in M3U format) for the limHD to play in sequence? As in, a few trailers followed by a movie?

Hey Kevin, are you able to make a playlist of video files (say, in M3U format) for the limHD to play in sequence? As in, a few trailers followed by a movie?


Hi Mark....no is the short answer....

Kevin

What FW enables reading a shared folder over the network? I have 070531 on the unit and can't find my 'share' from the unit, or the unit from my PC.

@oldpainless:
I converted an .mkv film using your 1st method (to .avi) and sync. seems good but with the occasional dropped frames. using the recent method (to .ts) video looks OK but sync was way out.

Just cut some VC-1 .ts files:
file1 (http://rapidshare.com/files/40694093/mi_cut.ts)
file2 (http://rapidshare.com/files/40697976/cr_cut.ts)

Both these files and their full versions stutter with TViX4100SH.
TSRemux reports that PCR is missing though.
Could you check whether limHD can decode them.

Apparently, these files play smoothly from internal HDD in TViX 4100/5100 and stutter only from external USB HDD and network.
So, the search for files played by limHD and failed by TViX continues ...

What FW enables reading a shared folder over the network? I have 070531 on the unit and can't find my 'share' from the unit, or the unit from my PC.

@oldpainless:
I converted an .mkv film using your 1st method (to .avi) and sync. seems good but with the occasional dropped frames. using the recent method (to .ts) video looks OK but sync was way out.

DONT use 0531.....0517 is best for playback....network is being tweaked// Get the 0517 firmware from GenDVD's site and retest and let us know how you get on.

Kevin

Testing new beta.....

Kevin

Can you presently transfer files to it via the Ethernet port or do you have to use USB?

Can you presently transfer files to it via the Ethernet port or do you have to use USB?

Do you mean streaming via Lan?....

K

The way to upgrade
Specific ways:
1. Put update folder in the first Division of IDE hard drive.
2. Implement SETUP \ BOOT firstly; After TV screen turning black, turn off the machine and reset it after 5 seconds
3. Implement SETUP \ application; After about 25 minutes, Turn off the machine when you find the TV screen has turned black; Reset it after 5 minutes.
4. Implement SETUP \ application BAK
After doing the above steps, the upgrade process is completed. During your upgrade process, you need to continue pressing OK button till VFD lights all bright in case of power outages or other unexpected factors which lead to the failure of upgrade. Then you can get the original version. In addition, upgrade cannot be implemented in U disk. We can only achieve it in IDE hard drive.

Note : in the upgrading process you should not cut off the power, force to turn off or restart the machine in the halfway.

Jackie

You have mail

K

Apparently, these files play smoothly from internal HDD in TViX 4100/5100 and stutter only from external USB HDD and network.
So, the search for files played by limHD and failed by TViX continues ...

russland,
Are these HD DVD rips that you used Tsremux to put them into .m2ts/ts containers? I know that the blu ray version of Mission Impossible 3 is Mpeg2 and when I ripped that it played without a problem on my 4100.

russland,
Are these HD DVD rips that you used Tsremux to put them into .m2ts/ts containers? I know that the blu ray version of Mission Impossible 3 is Mpeg2 and when I ripped that it played without a problem on my 4100.


Yes, these are HD-DVD rips.
However, I don't know how they were made - I just got them from the Internet for testing.
The only info about this clip is from file name:
...HD-DVD.Remux.VC-1.1080p.DDplus.DD51
I think somebody remuxed it to VC-1.

Just to let people know.....ironing out the bugs in the latest beta....but it is a huge improvment.......now, if I can get Tomacro to listen to EXACTLY what I'm telling them, then were on a real winner!.....should not take too long now....funtion/quality/play everything first....pretty GUI etc later....

K

Jackie

Is it possible to downgrade the firmware?
I'am trying to downgrade the firmware from 531 to 517 but ot doesn't work. I've put the files update.bin, boot.bin and userpref.bin in the root of the hard drive. When I choose setup -> Upgrade boot... nothing happens. The option Upgrade application... also doesn't work.

Jackie

Is it possible to downgrade the firmware?
I'am trying to downgrade the firmware from 531 to 517 but ot doesn't work. I've put the files update.bin, boot.bin and userpref.bin in the root of the hard drive. When I choose setup -> Upgrade boot... nothing happens. The option Upgrade application... also doesn't work.

Dont upgrade boot!.....

Put your files in the root in a folder called "update" and try that.....you could also put the files on the root as well to be sure....but just update the app!

Kevin

Jackie

Is it possible to downgrade the firmware?
I'am trying to downgrade the firmware from 531 to 517 but ot doesn't work. I've put the files update.bin, boot.bin and userpref.bin in the root of the hard drive. When I choose setup -> Upgrade boot... nothing happens. The option Upgrade application... also doesn't work.

Also, so I can help you - what type's of files do you want to play?...that way I can make sure you update the right version of firmware.

K

Dont upgrade boot!.....

Put your files in the root in a folder called "update" and try that.....you could also put the files on the root as well to be sure....but just update the app!

Kevin

I've tried your suggestion but without success. When I choose Upgrade Application a screen with two bars apears erasing and writing. Then after about 1 second the screen disapears and the system returns to the setup menu.

Apparently, these files play smoothly from internal HDD in TViX 4100/5100 and stutter only from external USB HDD and network.
So, the search for files played by limHD and failed by TViX continues ...


So bring um on....lol...more testies please... :D

K

I've tried your suggestion but without success. When I choose Upgrade Application a screen with two bars apears erasing and writing. Then after about 1 second the screen disapears and the system returns to the setup menu.


The folder you put the files in was called update (all lower case) and you put the files on the hard drive at root level too?

K

Jackie...if this is the case...you might wanna step in here...

K

Also, so I can help you - what type's of files do you want to play?...that way I can make sure you update the right version of firmware.

K

Finally I wan't to play 1080P MKV files :p

For now I want to play a mix of all kind of stuff,720P HD, 1080p HD, DVD iso or vob. Subtitles are also very important for me beacuse I don't speak good English.

Finally I wan't to play 1080P MKV files :p

For now I want to play a mix of all kind of stuff,720P HD, 1080p HD, DVD iso or vob. Subtitles are also very important for me beacuse I don't speak good English.

File formats? and your setup? If its in a TS, AVI or mpeg wrapper...0517 is your one.....and that will be DVD VOB in 517...and lastly your A/V setup - TV....HDMI...Projector...Amp etc

K

Finally I wan't to play 1080P MKV files

sigh...................................................

K

The folder you put the files in was called update (all lower case) and you put the files on the hard drive at root level too?

K

Yes that's right. I've also tried it with an USB dvd player with the same result. So it's a mistery for me what is wrong.

Yes that's right. I've also tried it with an USB dvd player with the same result. So it's a mistery for me what is wrong.

Not sure....the files (in the update folder, and root) need to be on the internal hard drive.....are they?

K

Not sure....the files (in the update folder, and root) need to be on the internal hard drive.....are they?

K

SUCCESS!! I've formatted an old hdd with fat32, copied the firmware on it and that worked :)
Time for coffee now, the upgrade takes a while.

Kevin, thanks for your help.

SUCCESS!! I've formatted an old hdd with fat32, copied the firmware on it and that worked :)
Time for coffee now, the upgrade takes a while.

Kevin, thanks for your help.


So you were trying to update via usb....as you have found...needs to be via an internal hard drive....sould take about 20-40 mins....so...whilst your having coffee....it would help me if I understood your av setup and what you want to play (file formats...bitrate etc)...

K

So you were trying to update via usb....as you have found...needs to be via an internal hard drive....sould take about 20-40 mins....so...whilst you having coffee....it would help me if I understood your av setup and what your want to play (file formats...bitrate etc)...

K

First I've tried it with the internal harddisk (Maxtor 80GB ntfs) with the upgrade files in the root - failed
Second try, upgrade files in a folder called "upgrade" and in the root as you suggested - failed
Third try, upgrade files in a folder upgrade and in the root of a dvd-rom. Internal hdd disconnected and connected a usb dvd-player. - failed
Last try - Formatted an old hard drive with fat32. Then copied the upgrade files to the root and in a folder upgrade. Placed the hdd in the limhd - success

it would help me if I understood your av setup and what your want to play (file formats...bitrate etc)...
K

I've bought a Sony KDL-40W2000 television, which will arrive tomorrow. When it is arrived I will connect the limhd through a HDMI connection.
What I want to play is difficult to say for me, I'am a newbie at this stuff.

(Maxtor 80GB ntfs)

Must be something fishy with that drive...I've connected ntfs and fat32 with no problems.

I've bought a Sony KDL-40W2000 television, which will arrive tomorrow. When it is arrived I will connect the limhd through a HDMI connection.
What I want to play is difficult to say for me, I'am a newbie at this stuff.

Well...lets start with what format?....TS?...AVI?...DivX?....Mpeg?.....M2TS?

K

Do you mean streaming via Lan?....

K


YES, can you install files on it via the LAN or just USB?

So bring um on....lol...more testies please...

Please try this file (http://192.67.78.42/tmp/bird.avi). I am not expecting it to work since it is 25 Mbps DV codec, but I read a note somewhere about Sigma possibly supporting DV as a hidden feature. BTW this clip doesn't have any sound.

Please try this file (http://192.67.78.42/tmp/bird.avi). I am not expecting it to work since it is 25 Mbps DV codec, but I read a note somewhere about Sigma possibly supporting DV as a hidden feature. BTW this clip doesn't have any sound.


Ok m8....as always....I'll test and let you know......but my feedback will be tomorrow......signing out....now time for bed.......in the UK anyway..

Have fun

K

>Dont upgrade boot!.....
What's the reason behind not updating the boot.bin Kevin?

>Put your files in the root in a folder called "update" and try that.....
>you could also put the files on the root as well to be sure....but just update the app!

As you said, making the root folder 'update' and placing the .bin files in there is where the 'curacao' binary will look for them, it also appears to look on 'HD5' [USB drive?] as well, but I never tried that.

From the curacao binary:
<Quote>
/mnt/HD1/update/update.bin
/mnt/HD5/update/update.bin
</Quote>

@Abbas
>>Do you mean streaming via Lan?
>YES, can you install files on it via the LAN or just USB?

For me, I can't see any way of transferring files to the internal HDD without the use of the USB port, and as Kevin has said they are working on the network stuff just now, so it will be possible soon I'd imagine (if not we can put an ftpd onto the unit ourselves).

@oldpainless:
Do you know what was done to break 070517 when they created 070531?
The .avi file plays fine with the 070517 FW (although the use of FF locks the unit up while it's playing the file).
Did they add more processes that was eating up processor cycles or what?

I'll transfer another .mkv tonight and see how that goes.

>Dont upgrade boot!.....
What's the reason behind not updating the boot.bin Kevin?

MMmmm....well...just a bad experiance

>Put your files in the root in a folder called "update" and try that.....
>you could also put the files on the root as well to be sure....but just update the app!

As you said, making the root folder 'update' and placing the .bin files in there is where the 'curacao' binary will look for them, it also appears to look on 'HD5' [USB drive?] as well, but I never tried that.

From the curacao binary:
<Quote>
/mnt/HD1/update/update.bin
/mnt/HD5/update/update.bin
</Quote>

@Abbas
>>Do you mean streaming via Lan?
>YES, can you install files on it via the LAN or just USB?

New one to me

For me, I can't see any way of transferring files to the internal HDD without the use of the USB port, and as Kevin has said they are working on the network stuff just now, so it will be possible soon I'd imagine (if not we can put an ftpd onto the unit ourselves).

well....you could always just put the hd in the LimHD?



@oldpainless:
Do you know what was done to break 070517 when they created 070531?
The .avi file plays fine with the 070517 FW (although the use of FF locks the unit up while it's playing the file).
Did they add more processes that was eating up processor cycles or what?

I'll transfer another .mkv tonight and see how that goes.

This has been reported and i am working on this with Jackie...and yes...as I have reported...dont use FF, but use the Time > goto function..

K

@oldpainless:
Do you know what was done to break 070517 when they created 070531?
The .avi file plays fine with the 070517 FW (although the use of FF locks the unit up while it's playing the file).
Did they add more processes that was eating up processor cycles or what?

The AVI playback (MKV to AVI) has been 99.9% fixed in the latest beta (FF and ac3 detection still needs a bit of tweaking).

K

Latest beta...VC-1 in WMV-HD 1080p...no problems

K

Another test:

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-2 Video
Codec profile : Main@High
Codec settings/Matri : Custom
PlayTime : 1h 31mn
Bit rate : 65 Mbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Width : 1280 pixels
Height : 1080 pixels
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.569

Audio #0
Codec : AC3
PlayTime : 1h 31mn
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Video0 delay : -454ms
ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, Subwoofer

:D

K

Please try this file (http://192.67.78.42/tmp/bird.avi). I am not expecting it to work since it is 25 Mbps DV codec, but I read a note somewhere about Sigma possibly supporting DV as a hidden feature. BTW this clip doesn't have any sound.

No joy.....

K

The differences between 8624 and 8634

Some manufacturers indicate that the 8,634 will soon be published. Is 8634 really better than 8624? The hardware decode of 8623,8624,8634 use the same IP core. That is to say for film sources in line with chapter10 VC1 and MPEG4 (H.264) standard, the decoding capabilities and there pace is completely consistent, and there is no films source 8,634 can understand but 8623 can not (as we know for ASIC chips, IP and its micro-kernel code
are difficult to be made differently), main purpose of different sections of 8434 chip is (such as speed and add a Memory CONTROLLER) for the sake of Blue DVD and STB picture-in-picture function (picture-in-picture function to simultaneously two routes HDTV solution, to spend a lot of CPU resources and memory resources-300Mhz frequency solution for 2-way high definition). But for HD products, it is not necessary to develop
For the products like high-definition video player, which only need decode only one-way HD video, the function and performance of 8623 is enough, because 8623 can use 200Mhz frequency to solute the first Road HD. The engineers and technicians of Tomacro specifically inquiries the experts in the United States SIGMA headquarters about this matter and received a positive answer. In fact Data Sheet and the User's Guide and other information of SIGMA also explain that (in secrecy, not open to the public on its web site). So please do not worried about this problem. For HDTV player, LimHD200i is no worse than the 8634. For the products like high-definition video player, which only need decode only one-way HD video, the function and performance of 8623 is enough, because 8623 can use 200Mhz frequency to solute the first Road HD. On Sigma website, there are only simple shallow information which they wrote before the chip come out. They are not refreshed for a long time. So they are not worth to believe. So far, Tomacro has done a lot of work and achieved a great success the software of the LimHD200i, especially for the compatibility of film sources. LimHD200i is currently the strongest decoder (broadcast fluently) with most decoding formats. Tomacro promises to the consumers that when you broadcast film sources with problems please feedback in time to the vendors or Tomacro to analyze so as not to miss the opportunities to further develop film source compatibility. For both the software and hardware design, LimHD200i has realized a fundamental breakthrough. As a HD machine, LimHD200i truly achieve the 1920 x1080p [60hz] resolution. And the other forthcoming products only have maximum resolution of 1,920 x1080i [60hz] (equivalent to 192 0x1080p [30hz] clarity). In clarity they are double worse than LimHD200i. Strictly speaking, they cannot be considered to be true HD player! The stability and maturity of a player not an overnight thing, LimHD200i has entered into market for more than half year.

The differences between 8624 and 8634

Some manufacturers indicate that the 8,634 will soon be published. Is 8634 really better than 8624? The hardware decode of 8623,8624,8634 use the same IP core. That is to say for film sources in line with chapter10 VC1 and MPEG4 (H.264) standard, the decoding capabilities and there pace is completely consistent, and there is no films source 8,634 can understand but 8623 can not (as we know for ASIC chips, IP and its micro-kernel code
are difficult to be made differently), main purpose of different sections of 8434 chip is (such as speed and add a Memory CONTROLLER) for the sake of Blue DVD and STB picture-in-picture function (picture-in-picture function to simultaneously two routes HDTV solution, to spend a lot of CPU resources and memory resources-300Mhz frequency solution for 2-way high definition). But for HD products, it is not necessary to develop
For the products like high-definition video player, which only need decode only one-way HD video, the function and performance of 8623 is enough, because 8623 can use 200Mhz frequency to solute the first Road HD. The engineers and technicians of Tomacro specifically inquiries the experts in the United States SIGMA headquarters about this matter and received a positive answer. In fact Data Sheet and the User's Guide and other information of SIGMA also explain that (in secrecy, not open to the public on its web site). So please do not worried about this problem. For HDTV player, LimHD200i is no worse than the 8634. For the products like high-definition video player, which only need decode only one-way HD video, the function and performance of 8623 is enough, because 8623 can use 200Mhz frequency to solute the first Road HD. On Sigma website, there are only simple shallow information which they wrote before the chip come out. They are not refreshed for a long time. So they are not worth to believe. So far, Tomacro has done a lot of work and achieved a great success the software of the LimHD200i, especially for the compatibility of film sources. LimHD200i is currently the strongest decoder (broadcast fluently) with most decoding formats. Tomacro promises to the consumers that when you broadcast film sources with problems please feedback in time to the vendors or Tomacro to analyze so as not to miss the opportunities to further develop film source compatibility. For both the software and hardware design, LimHD200i has realized a fundamental breakthrough. As a HD machine, LimHD200i truly achieve the 1920 x1080p [60hz] resolution. And the other forthcoming products only have maximum resolution of 1,920 x1080i [60hz] (equivalent to 192 0x1080p [30hz] clarity). In clarity they are double worse than LimHD200i. Strictly speaking, they cannot be considered to be true HD player! The stability and maturity of a player not an overnight thing, LimHD200i has entered into market for more than half year.
That sounds good.

But earlier your said yourself that the 8623/8624 may not have enough resources to do MKV. How does that fit together? Sorry for being a pest. But MKV support is essential for me... :)

Thanks for that Jackie....

Any feedback from Tomacro.....we are virtually there...just a bit more tweaking, and then were done....for the moment.

K

Jackie

Is it possible to downgrade the firmware?
I'am trying to downgrade the firmware from 531 to 517 but ot doesn't work. I've put the files update.bin, boot.bin and userpref.bin in the root of the hard drive. When I choose setup -> Upgrade boot... nothing happens. The option Upgrade application... also doesn't work.

Hello robmol, limHD200i firmware can downgrade, copy and paste 0517 firmware files to update folder, replace 0531 firmware same files name.
Connect your limHD200i to your TV, turn on->choose setup -> Upgrade boot (sometimes after upgrade boot, system upgrade will start automatically)-> watting about 10s -> TV black screen, no signal video output -> turn off
turn on-> choose setup -> Upgrade application -> system upgrade user interface appeared, system upgrade automatically, about 20 mins -> TV black screen ->turn off

Turn on -> now your upgrade finished.

But we really dont suggest you downgrade the firmware from 0531 to 0517, because of the latest 0704 firmware will be issued in the near future, 0704 firmware have add a very important function of upgrade protection, NFS support, VC-1, etc.

Kevin (and others),

This is a very interesting thread, entertainment during morning coffee, lunch coffee and afternoon coffee. Great stuff indeed.

Just a quick question from me today. As I have a videoprocessor/scaler which can accept 480i/576i on HDMI I would very much like that as an output from the streamer. Reading the spec on lim200 it only says 480p/576p (not "i").
Could you (or any other) check if that is possible on HDMI?

So far the 4100/5100 can do it, but as we all know it has other limitations ;)

Any more news regarding a group buy?

(oops, that made two questions... :p )

M.

OK...update on the latest beta cut....

It can output 1440X480i/576i

K

OK...update on the latest beta cut....

It can output 1440X480i/576i
That's very nice! Is 1080p24 supported?

That's very nice! Is 1080p24 supported?

Not that I can see, unless I have missed something (Jackie?)

K

Looks like the LimHD now has it own website

http://www.limhd.com/en/main.asp

K

Is there anyone who have the interest to be our agent? Please email to us gendvd2000@yahoo.com, It will be much profitable.

OK...update on the latest beta cut....

It can output 1440X480i/576i

K

Gotcha...!

Anyone knows how they "make" the 480/576i output? Do they re-interlace an already progressive film (talking non-DVDs here, as they are "i" originally)?

Kevin, you might ask them to implement an Auto-PAL/NTSC switch in their firmware (as the tvix have). Great feature for us PAL-people which also enjoy NTSC stuff. It is a hassle to change it manually every time.

Now, I gonna go check on the river which treathen to take my company building. Many of my colleagues (and me) where fortifying the banks yesterday (and some worked during the night along with the civilguard). They call it the 50 or 100year flood... pretty intense (in a good way) :)

No joy.....

Thanks. Most people would convert DV to more compact MPEG2 or XviD anyway, but it was worth a shot.

That sounds good.

But earlier your said yourself that the 8623/8624 may not have enough resources to do MKV. How does that fit together? Sorry for being a pest. But MKV support is essential for me... :)

I would be very interested to hear a response also because the possibility to reak .mkv is really the option that will convince me to buy the limhd200i.

Thanks. Most people would convert DV to more compact MPEG2 or XviD anyway, but it was worth a shot.

Another new cut of firmware out today, so I'll test again.

K

Got the 070704 FW and installed it.

I set up the unit with a fixed IP and told it where my samba share was (on a Buffalo LS-Pro).

The .mkv->.avi files that I have got seem quite happy playing over the network.

Gotcha...!

Anyone knows how they "make" the 480/576i output? Do they re-interlace an already progressive film (talking non-DVDs here, as they are "i" originally)?

Kevin, you might ask them to implement an Auto-PAL/NTSC switch in their firmware (as the tvix have). Great feature for us PAL-people which also enjoy NTSC stuff. It is a hassle to change it manually every time.

Now, I gonna go check on the river which treathen to take my company building. Many of my colleagues (and me) where fortifying the banks yesterday (and some worked during the night along with the civilguard). They call it the 50 or 100year flood... pretty intense (in a good way) :)

Why "Gotcha"?

K

Got the 070704 FW and installed it.

I set up the unit with a fixed IP and told it where my samba share was (on a Buffalo LS-Pro).

The .mkv->.avi files that I have got seem quite happy playing over the network.

I'm downloading at the mo...is it picking up the AC3 flag?

K

Jackie

You have mail....

K

I just got mine today. Where is the best place to get updated firmware? I didn't have much time to play with it. How easy it to get the firmware updated?

Thanks,
Enrique

@LianLi
Follow the link above http://www.limhd.com/en/main.asp and select 'download' an you'll see the latest FW.

I created a folder at the root of the HDD named:

update

UnRAR the downloaded file 'update070704.rar' and copy all the .bin files into the folder 'update' that you created.


Then just follow the instructions given (it does take an unusually long time to flash the eeprom for some reason though, so don't try and rush it.):

The way to upgrade
Specific ways:
1. Put update folder in the first Division of IDE hard drive.
2. Implement SETUP \ BOOT firstly; After TV screen turning black, turn off the machine and reset it after 5 seconds
3. Implement SETUP \ application; After about 25 minutes, Turn off the machine when you find the TV screen has turned black; Reset it after 5 minutes.
4. Implement SETUP \ application BAK
After doing the above steps, the upgrade process is completed. During your upgrade process, you need to continue pressing OK button till VFD lights all bright in case of power outages or other unexpected factors which lead to the failure of upgrade. Then you can get the original version. In addition, upgrade cannot be implemented in U disk. We can only achieve it in IDE hard drive.

Note : in the upgrading process you should not cut off the power, force to turn off or restart the machine in the halfway.

@All
While I'm here, an update:

After putting the 070704 FW onto the unit and now seeing my files on the network I decided to remove the HDD (planning on working via the network share for music/video)

The first test movie that I played subsequently crashed the box after only 5 seconds.
MP3's seem to play fine and I then tried a non-HD movie that lasted 25 seconds before the unit hung.

My initial thoughts were that the HDD was being used as some sort of cache, but with that drive being formatted to NTFS that is not going to be an option, -since the FW will only read from NTFS drives, not write to them (unfortunately)-.

I then hooked up an old CF to the IDE connector (so HD1 would at least be 'seen' by the unit), and now both my test movies play OK.

It seems that at some point (when a buffer fills while playing over the network?) the unit looks for HD1 (for some reason) and then; not finding anything on HD1, it gets confused and hangs.

Maybe Jackie could throw some light on this?

Ultimately I'd like a box with no moving parts under my TV that can play almost everything, -and this one is looking good for that-, but I'm sure it can be done without the CF work-around.

UnRAR the downloaded file 'update070704.rar' ...

Just a small suggestion to Tomacro.
Not all the computer users bought the WinRar archiver, most just use free ZIP.
I believe basic support is even embedded into MS Windows.
So, it's better to pack FW updates into zip archives with minimal compression.