Tomacro limHD200i HD media player with H.264 [Text View] - Page 5

muad'dib

07-16-07, 06:08 PM

No one has any helpful comments?

K

Hello..

As meationed before, you could use the NFS server from Tvix..

TViX NetShare v.1.08

http://www.tvix.co.kr/eng/support/EtcDriver.aspx

This server is soooo easy to use...

Just load it, and point it to the folder you want to share..

If you want to share multi folders, root directories, dvd-rom drives, you can also.. but,, with the following procedure..

In windows, make a directory where you will contain sub directories that will LINK to acutual root directories over different drives..

Example: Main directory = MOUNTS
sub directories in that = D (will be linked to D:\ drive)
sub directories in that = E (will be linked to E:\ drive)

Now, goto windows disk managment..

Highlight the Drive you want to share..

Right click on that drive, and choose option "change drive letter"

Once in this drive letter screen, choose ADD (do not chage actual drive letter).. By choosing ADD (folder), you then link this drive to a folder.. Since I have a folder called "c:\mounts\D" I will choose this for my D:\ dvd rom drive..

Now windows see the dvd rom drive as d:\ and c:\mounts\D

NOw..

With Tvix server, load it, and select the MOUNTS folder..

NOw..

Not sure what options you have for NFS, but on Tvix, I choose NFS (normal) mode..

On the client end (your media player), enter the IP address of your computer, and for the name use "tvixhd1"

For the name above, do not include the "" :)

You should not be accessing the Tvix server, and the Tvix server is looking at the Directory you showed it (which contains the sub directories that link to actuall drives)..

HOpe this works... On Tvix, works great, and have tired other programs like PRONFS, AllegroNFS, etc... but this was easiest and best..

:)

Abbas

07-16-07, 07:30 PM

Ok...tested, never seen these video codecs before..HDV2 & HDV6? I could get MOV3 (HDV6 video codec) to play with video on my PC....

The 1080p mov from Apple played perferct on the LimHD:

Mediainfo:

Format : QuickTime
Format/Info : Quictime movie
Format/Family : MPEG-4
File size : 176 MiB
PlayTime : 2mn 30s
Bit rate : 9836 Kbps
StreamSize : 93.6 KiB
Movie name : The Game Plan
Movie name/More : In theaters 2007
Encoded date : UTC 2007-07-14 00:31:43
Tagged date : UTC 2007-07-14 00:31:58
Copyright : © 2007 Walt Disney Pictures. All Rights Reserved
Comment : Encoded and delivered by apple.com/trailers/

Video #0
Codec : H.264
Codec/Info : H.264 (3GPP)
PlayTime : 2mn 30s
Bit rate : 9733 Kbps
Width : 1920 pixels
Height : 816 pixels
Aspect ratio : 2.35
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.254
StreamSize : 174 MiB
Encoded date : UTC 2007-07-08 00:28:37
Tagged date : UTC 2007-07-14 00:31:58

Audio #0
Codec : AAC
Codec/Family : AAC
PlayTime : 2mn 30s
Bit rate : 98 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Resolution : 16 bits
StreamSize : 1.75 MiB
Encoded date : UTC 2007-07-08 00:28:39
Tagged date : UTC 2007-07-14 00:31:58

Your files, no go:

Format : QuickTime
Format/Info : Quictime movie
Format/Family : MPEG-4
File size : 71.7 MiB
PlayTime : 18s 284ms
Bit rate : 33 Mbps
StreamSize : 2.53 MiB
Encoded date : UTC 2007-07-15 18:50:28
Tagged date : UTC 2007-07-15 18:51:08

Video #0
Codec : hdv6
PlayTime : 18s 284ms
Bit rate : 31 Mbps
Width : 1440 pixels
Height : 1080 pixels
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
StreamSize : 68.3 MiB
Encoded date : UTC 2007-07-15 18:50:28
Tagged date : UTC 2007-07-15 18:51:08

Audio #0
Codec : PCM
PlayTime : 18s 284ms
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Resolution : 16 bits
StreamSize : 857 KiB
Encoded date : UTC 2007-07-15 18:50:28
Tagged date : UTC 2007-07-15 18:51:08

I dont think it's the bitrate, as I've had files upto 65mbps.....but it's the video codec. Are all your movies in HDV6/2?

K

I just the files with Quicktime's HDV settings. Is there any HDV codecs that work with Lim2000? Also, what codec did Apple use for that Game Plan trailer?

LianLi

07-16-07, 09:08 PM

I just the files with Quicktime's HDV settings. Is there any HDV codecs that work with Lim2000? Also, what codec did Apple use for that Game Plan trailer?

Format : QuickTime
Format/Info : Quictime movie
Format/Family : MPEG-4
File size : 176 MiB
PlayTime : 2mn 30s
Bit rate : 9836 Kbps
StreamSize : 93.6 KiB
Movie name : The Game Plan
Movie name/More : In theaters 2007
Encoded date : UTC 2007-07-14 00:31:43
Tagged date : UTC 2007-07-14 00:31:58
Copyright : © 2007 Walt Disney Pictures. All Rights Reserved
Comment : Encoded and delivered by apple.com/trailers/

Video #0
Codec : H.264
Codec/Info : H.264 (3GPP)
PlayTime : 2mn 30s
Bit rate : 9733 Kbps
Width : 1920 pixels
Height : 816 pixels
Aspect ratio : 2.35
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.254
StreamSize : 174 MiB
Encoded date : UTC 2007-07-08 00:28:37
Tagged date : UTC 2007-07-14 00:31:58

They used the H.264 codec which is one of the HD standard codecs being used everywhere.

Hitomacro

07-16-07, 11:28 PM

Quick question for Fan....

Does the new beta firmware decode WMV-HD with 5.1 surround (WMA-3 audio) to DD 5.1 surround?

K
Hey pretty,
Not yet.

:D Any complaints?

Regards
Fan
Tomacro Tech.

LianLi

07-16-07, 11:49 PM

I still can't play this file.

General #0
Complete name : C:\Documents and Settings\Admin\Desktop\Elephant's Dream_10-25_440.wmv
Format : Windows Media
File size : 831 MiB
PlayTime : 10mn 58s
Bit rate : 11 Mbps
Movie name : Elephant's Dream
Performer : Encoded by Ben Waggoner
Copyright : (c) copyright 2006, Blender Foundation / Netherlands Media Art Institute / www.elephantsdream.org
Comment : Elephant's Dream, encoded to Windows Media VC-1 using the v11 codecs and optimal settings
Date_Created : UTC 2067-06-08 08:23:52
VBR Peak : 25000000

Video #0
Codec : VC-1
Codec/Info : Microsoft
Bit rate : 9944 Kbps
Width : 1920 pixels
Height : 1080 pixels
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Resolution : 24 bits

Audio #0
Codec : WMA3
Codec/Info : Windows Media Audio 3
Bit rate : 440 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz

It gets choppy right after the title. Does anyone else have this problem?

My Setup:
Sony Bravia XBR 52" LCD HDTV (KDL-52XBR2)
Seagate Barracuda 500 GB Internal Ultra ATA/100 Hard Drive 16 MB Cache ( ST3500641A-RK )
limHD200i with 0707 firmware HDMI 1080p connection

Thanks,
Enrique

LianLi

07-16-07, 11:55 PM

I can't play this one either.

Format : Windows Media
File size : 12.0 GiB
PlayTime : 2h 14mn
Bit rate : 13 Mbps
Performer : Wookie Groomer
SfOriginalFPS : 239760
Date_Created : UTC 2013-03-22 09:07:16

Video #0
Codec : VC-1
Codec/Info : Microsoft
Bit rate : 12 Mbps
Width : 1920 pixels
Height : 820 pixels
Aspect ratio : 2.35
Resolution : 24 bits

Audio #0
Codec : WMA3
Codec/Info : Windows Media Audio 3
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz

My Setup:
Sony Bravia XBR 52" LCD HDTV (KDL-52XBR2)
Seagate Barracuda 500 GB Internal Ultra ATA/100 Hard Drive 16 MB Cache ( ST3500641A-RK )
limHD200i with 0707 firmware HDMI 1080p connection

Thanks,
Enrique

conker2007

07-17-07, 12:42 AM

what's the best tool for analysing HD video files? MediaInfo? or ... ...
and what's the best tool for cutting HD video files?

THX in advance,

gendvd

07-17-07, 12:44 AM

There used to be a pop-up on the gendv.com site that allowed you to purchase the limhd200i for $449 but that pop-up appears to be missing. What is the current price?
Hello! you can email to gendvd2000@yahoo .com for the price.

oldpainless68

07-17-07, 02:01 AM

Hello..

As meationed before, you could use the NFS server from Tvix..

TViX NetShare v.1.08

http://www.tvix.co.kr/eng/support/EtcDriver.aspx

This server is soooo easy to use...

Just load it, and point it to the folder you want to share..

If you want to share multi folders, root directories, dvd-rom drives, you can also.. but,, with the following procedure..

In windows, make a directory where you will contain sub directories that will LINK to acutual root directories over different drives..

Example: Main directory = MOUNTS
sub directories in that = D (will be linked to D:\ drive)
sub directories in that = E (will be linked to E:\ drive)

Now, goto windows disk managment..

Highlight the Drive you want to share..

Right click on that drive, and choose option "change drive letter"

Once in this drive letter screen, choose ADD (do not chage actual drive letter).. By choosing ADD (folder), you then link this drive to a folder.. Since I have a folder called "c:\mounts\D" I will choose this for my D:\ dvd rom drive..

Now windows see the dvd rom drive as d:\ and c:\mounts\D

NOw..

With Tvix server, load it, and select the MOUNTS folder..

NOw..

Not sure what options you have for NFS, but on Tvix, I choose NFS (normal) mode..

On the client end (your media player), enter the IP address of your computer, and for the name use "tvixhd1"

For the name above, do not include the "" :)

You should not be accessing the Tvix server, and the Tvix server is looking at the Directory you showed it (which contains the sub directories that link to actuall drives)..

HOpe this works... On Tvix, works great, and have tired other programs like PRONFS, AllegroNFS, etc... but this was easiest and best..

:)

Thanks....I give it a shot!....

K

LianLi

07-17-07, 02:47 AM

what's the best tool for analysing HD video files? MediaInfo? or ... ...
and what's the best tool for cutting HD video files?

THX in advance,

MediaInfo

oldpainless68

07-17-07, 02:53 AM

MediaInfo

Yeap...Mediainfo

K

oldpainless68

07-17-07, 02:54 AM

oldpainless68

07-17-07, 04:15 AM

Woziak

07-17-07, 04:49 AM

Don't forget to open the ports on your Windows-firewall for nfs... ;)

oldpainless68

07-17-07, 04:56 AM

Don't forget to open the ports on your Windows-firewall for nfs... ;)

I even switched windows firewall off. I have a 2wire router/modem...would that make any difference?

Cheers

K

Woziak

07-17-07, 05:23 AM

I guess you mean a ADSL router/modem... It depends... There should be no restrictions on the LAN part of the router/switch.

phew

07-17-07, 05:42 AM

Kevin,

When I tested out connection to my XP box I had to set the LimHD to be on the same sub-net:

i.e.
my router is 192.168.1.1
my XP box is on 192.168.1.16
I set LimHD to 192.168.1.40

These set with a sub-net mask of 255.255.255.0 (think win defaults to this)

Note that the 1st 3 values are all the same
Now with a bit of luck and the settings you have you should see the XP from the LimHD.

oldpainless68

07-17-07, 05:52 AM

phew

07-17-07, 06:36 AM

Yes, as long as everything is on the same subnet all should be good.

oldpainless68

07-17-07, 06:40 AM

Yes, as long as everything is on the same subnet all should be good.

I'm a bit new at this whole IP thing...can you explain what you mean please.

K

dp70

07-17-07, 07:10 AM

Received confirmation this morning that my limHD is finally on the way! I could be joining you early adopters as soon as this weekend. I'll have my NFS server and test media set up and waiting...

oldpainless68

07-17-07, 07:11 AM

Received confirmation this morning that my limHD is finally on the way! I could be joining you early adopters as soon as this weekend. I'll have my NFS server and test media set up and waiting...

:cool:

phew

07-17-07, 08:04 AM

I'm probably not the one to answer your question Dude -stumbling about with neworks myself ATM-.

Best that I describe how I have it set up on XP and leave it to you to make the changes on Vista and your network specifics. On my XP box I made a folder in the root of drive c: called 'samba' (no quotes, and could be any name I suppose)

Set this folder as a shared folder to allow other users on the network to view it.

Determine the IP address of your router

Mine is 192.168.1.1 with a netmask of 255.255.255.0

I give my PC a static address which is 192.168.1.16

On the LimHD I set it for a static IP of 192.168.1.20 and set up the Samba share to read //192.168.1.16/samba

Kevin,
I posted this earlier re. Samba, but everything here holds for nfs too with the exception that the address placed on the LimHD would read:

192.168.1.16:/samba

With these settings I could read the nfs folder that I had on my C: drive 'c:\samba'.

Basically have all 3 units addresses starting with the same 3 numbers (i.e. 192.168.1 or whatever the 3rd value in your router is. Yours may be something different like 192.168.0, but whatever it is set all 3 units to be the same -up to the 3rd value-) and set as 'static'.

Take note of anything you are going to alter to allow it to be put back to your original easily.

oldpainless68

07-17-07, 08:08 AM

Kevin,
I posted this earlier re. Samba, but everything here holds for nfs too with the exception that the address placed on the LimHD would read:

192.168.1.16:/samba

With these settings I could read the nfs folder that I had on my C: drive 'c:\samba'.

Basically have all 3 units addresses starting with the same 3 numbers (i.e. 192.168.1 or whatever the 3rd value in your router is. Yours may be something different like 192.168.0, but whatever it is set all 3 units to be the same -up to the 3rd value-) and set as 'static'.

Take note of anything you are going to alter to allow it to be put back to your original easily.

Thanks...I thought that was what you meant. I have done all that - My PC has a static IP and so does the LimHD, and all set (as SMB works), but I just cant get NFS to work.....I even tried Netshare which is very easy to use...

So I've created the share folder on the PC using Netshare, also netshare confirms its sharing via my IP addy, have set the NFS network path up on the LimHD 192.168.1.XX:/tvixhd1

But....still no joy

K

digitalkid2

07-17-07, 09:26 AM

Hello! you can email to gendvd2000@yahoo .com for the price.
Will do!

Thanks

oldpainless68

07-17-07, 10:52 AM

Jackie

Any feedback from Tomacro on the 1080p MVK to TS file yet?

Kevin

HRTraveler

07-17-07, 01:01 PM

russland

07-17-07, 01:25 PM

limHD has better build quality.
Aluminum case and no fan.
Some complain that TViXes are too loud.
Performance wise both Dvico and Tomacro seem to develop new features pretty well.

paul1010

07-17-07, 02:53 PM

I was following the auction on ebay for this product. It received no bids over a 1 week period.

I was ready to "pull the trigger", but, I was concerned the built in HDD interface is IDE and not SATA.

Since most of my movies will be ACVHD I am concerned about transfer rates.

Also, the price seems a little steep for a product that is still in it's early stages.

Does anyone own both a TVIX 4100/5100 and this unit? If so, why should I buy the Tomacro?

Thanks in advance.

hello all.
I understand that IDE and SATA drives do not physically reach the maximum speed of either transport mechanism. Individual drives might differ, but the current generation of drives has not maxed out the buses in either case AFAIK. So it's likely not a problem. Not that I have one, so I don't know, but i'm v.interested in getting one of these lim units.

As far as getting one goes, I've found a couple of auctions on ebay, one blokes got reasonable feedback so......still thinking :)

LianLi

07-17-07, 03:54 PM

When you say you cant play it....what do you mean..

K

Locks up and I lose sound.

RHISC-NL

07-17-07, 04:10 PM

Hi-Jack

07-17-07, 04:15 PM

Wassup guys...
Well, I received the LimHD200i today but before going into that story about the
first impression I got (without even testing a single file except checking ISO DVD
which is not working yet) I want to say to FAN that our comments are not an
attack and we sincerely appreciate your efforts into informing the scene... I'd like to start by saying that I strongly believe in HD playback LimHD200i will eventually be a top player but as far as build, features, options, copnveience go... it didn't make a good impression on me at all...

(MPC article about first impression)

It arrived and I seriously mean "it". It's huge. It's the Frankenstein among the Media Players and I don't say that because of the looks, but more because of the size. The LimHD200i is huge for a HDD based media player, at least twice as big as the TViX, the IAMM, the MViX, the Dueple. The measurements register 23.5 cm heigth, 26 cm deep and about 10 cm width.It's funny how I recently said to Tomacro manager "Fan" that he'd better strap on for MPC's opinion as we are not as easy as some might think, especially considering we look at "everything" and the fact Tomacro is yelling about how good the unit is as competition against the TViX... You also know how they say, you can only make a first impression once. Well... this is the impression the Tomacro LimHD200i gave me after 2 hours of playing with it...

The package left me a special impression as the unit came packed in a box, holding a "Tomacro Bag" as well. Nice marketing and I loved it. I opened the box and the size of the unit is impressive. I haven't decided yet rather I like it or not, fact is, that it only can be used standing up and this might cause space issues for many. The package content included the player, a Power Cable, Gold Plater HDMI cable (nice) and the remote control. Anything missing? Yes, the batteries ware not included but I have tons of those (detail). My unit came with a 160GB HDD drive, especially for sureveillance video recording, the Seagate ST3160815AV. First thing I did was opening the box and replace it with a normal drive, 320GB, also Seagate. This process was fairly simple except for the bottom screw to be removed which was tightened too much. The additional screws needing removal, some where broken and we saw the cover plate at the bottom was not a perfect match to the unit.

We hooked the player up, looked at the remote and saw there's an error on it. The Movie button actually reads "Moivie" but we don't let that be a problem. The LimHD200i started in 1080p mode which is ok for some, but prefered is S-Video/Composite or if you choose to have HD at least use 1080i/720p as not many have 1080p TV. Second, the unit was set to NTSC and before I got a decent picture linkd to my TV card on PC (screenshots), I had to change to PAL so there is no auto detect taking place. There is a button on the remote to switch output settings but none for switching NTSC and PAL.

Setting up the player is kind of a hassle and very hard to achieve considering very few options are available. Only the very basic needs are covered. There are no options for screensaver, slideshow timeout and more of those options. Especially SMB is limited where one needs to enter an IP Address in the form of "//192.168.1.1/media" and seems there's only the possibility to enter 1 source. Same for NFS. So far the LimHD200i would not see my NAS server content even though all settings are correct and I suspect the network implementation of the LimHD200i being the cause of it. You can enter only the IP Address in manual IP mode (static) and no space for subnet or gateway and even when using DHCP, there is no info shown about IP Address or anything. Even the Mac Address is not shown by a sticker on the bottom or the rear in case people use MAC filtering (Tip below about finding MAC Address).

After formatting the hard drive I looked into possibilities to transfer files to the LimHD200i and all I found was the ability to transfer over USB connection. No FTP is integrated for this purpose and this is sad as it is convenient not to move the unit back and forth between PC and TV. It's exactly the sort of thing we'd like to avoid in general. Another thing we already noticed is the nice colored display, even though it doesn't show any folders or titles you browse so one can forget about using it's music functions without a TV connected and powered on.

Have I mentioned the size already?

Ok, I just decided I like the size so there's at least something positive to say beside the marketing bag in the box about the Tomacro LimHD200i so far. The first impression is not bad, but also not good. Especially the "unfitting" bottom panel, the missing batteries, the missing FTP option, the limited IP options and info, only 1 SMB source/ 1 NFS source and then some things like DVD ISO missing (to be implemented in the future by FW updates), already limit my expectations of the device in terms of user convenience and possibilities. To be honest, I don't know with what Tomacro funds their claim to be a competition for the TViX, but wherever that is coming from, I don't see it (yet?).

Well, we have about 10 more sessions to complete with the Tomacro LimHD200i so we hope things get better from here. Stay tuned and read about our next sessions soon.

How to find the Mac Address?
When connected to the network, usu-ally you can see the IP Address assigned to the unit in your router administrative panel. The Mac Address is possibly listed there as well. If not, you can use the command prompt in windows to PING the IP Address (ping 192.168.1.1) and after this process is don, type "arp -a" and it will show you which Mac Address the IP you pinged has.

Enjoy
Franken-Jack... I mean Hi-Jack

PS: The story continues...

oldpainless68

07-17-07, 04:16 PM

Locks up and I lose sound.

Ok...I have some pretty high bitrate 1080p WMV-HD files....I've not had any locking up with 0707..but sometimes it drops audio for a second....are you running 0707?

K

Hi-Jack

07-17-07, 04:27 PM

Hi all,

I follow all TViX and Tomacro topics now for along periode. Today we decided to purchase also the limHD200i. So this new HDD Multimedia Center device will be lined up against the DVICO TViX 4x00-5x00 serie as well.

The first shipment (pre installed with 320GB ATA HDD) must arrive before the week of the end of july and we will comment on our own forum the differences between those two brands.

Will you pull the same stupid stunts as you did with Dvico and backstab your own
consumers again? You are not worthy of having clients Ronald... First become a
serious guy, then expect people to buy in your store... I see since you got
banned from MPC for your malpractice and lies that you are trying other
community forums... Hope people think twice before getting involved with you...

Second, you should comment here...

Sorry admins, can't help myself concerning him :-)

oldpainless68

07-17-07, 04:27 PM

Hi-Jack

07-17-07, 04:40 PM

I wish I could check the unit out completely in one evening as i feel i'm not doing justice to Tomacro by reporting "sessions", but it ain't possible. Very often for the usual users, unaware of how to tune a TV set correctly, the difference won't be as big as the pro's will see it. Notice also that Quality of the image is visible better on a 130" than on a 32" or 42" TV...

I have some own created HD files we use as test reference and the image is
indeed stable and crisp all the way through. Wish I had a 130" TV, can't imagine
what it looks like. With the naked eye it's hard to see differences between most
popular players but I take your word for it it's the best out there knowing that Tomacro focusses on HD playback very hard above the rest of the possibilities...

For pro's that's all they need :-)

RHISC-NL

07-17-07, 05:00 PM

Will you pull the same stupid stunts as you did with Dvico and backstab your own
consumers again? You are not worthy of having clients Ronald... First become a
serious guy, then expect people to buy in your store... I see since you got
banned from MPC for your malpractice and lies that you are trying other
community forums... Hope people think twice before getting involved with you...

Second, you should comment here...

Sorry admins, can't help myself concerning him :-)

Ones we were friends and I trusted you to much in all matters, now we don't, but you and I know the truth!
it's not about customer satisfaction it's all about politics..

Hi-Jack

07-17-07, 05:16 PM

Ones we were friends and I trusted you to much in all matters, now we don't, but you and I know the truth!

Correction, once we ware partners untill you started cheating consumers about
claiming to be the official distributor and conduct all kinds of schemes to force
people to buy at your shop only by limiting the products to expand...

Anyway, this is not the place to discuss this, nor want i to discuss anything with
you. I wanted to warn people up here and I did. All the rest is not important to
me... You are a smart business man, i give you that... but never will you abuse
community forums again where i'm a member...

The story was about to be published all over Europe by us but DviCo saved your ass and so did France Newcom Pierre... http://www.mpcclub.com/pr_rhisc.htm

Enjoy
Hi-Jack

RHISC-NL

07-17-07, 05:27 PM

I must say again this is your truth & your perception, we both know what really was and is the matter in this case... I say again all is about politics.

PS I am not angry or disapointed, only shamed in my trust...
PS My small company ;-) purchased in France in 3/4 year 400 units DVICO TViX models....

kculp

07-17-07, 06:01 PM

OK, those of us in the USA are left holding the bag. I emailed Tamaco about a US vendor and no answer.

I've seen the link for this item on amazon.com, but it isn't available. Here is the link:

limoHD2000i (http://www.amazon.com/Limhd200i-1080p-H-264-Super-Player/dp/B000SXQEEA)

I really don't like the idea of paying for shipping from an international vendor, time delay, return shipping for a damaged unit, etc.

Does anyone know when the limHD200i will be available in the US?

Should we just wait it out till the Tvix M-5500 or the Sybas Media Tank comes out? Both of these will have the EM8634 chip too. First thing I would be interested in is seeing these unit with a SATA. Also, there could definitely be some improvements on user interface, with all this chatter on the limHD200i I've yet to see screen shots of the user interface. I can't really understand why so few are concerned about this. I want to be able to see the DVD cover and possibly search for my movies.

Thoughts to time to market for these newer SIGMA chipsets?

plumeria

07-17-07, 06:02 PM

RHISC-NL and Hi-Jack

Pistols at dawn guys - otherwise shut-up and take your personal arguments and vendettas elsewhere... and don't hi-jack (pun intended) this thread.

peter

RHISC-NL

07-17-07, 06:12 PM

RHISC-NL and Hi-Jack

Pistols at dawn guys - otherwise shut-up and take your personal arguments and vendettas elsewhere... and don't hi-jack (pun intended) this thread.

peter

Sorry Peter I will. This topic was/is for me already closed a long time ago. We have made a Dutch corporate statement to explain about all this negative mud throwing to my company.

mhiatt

07-17-07, 10:14 PM

Hi-Jack

07-18-07, 01:20 AM

Abbas

07-18-07, 01:38 AM

Wassup guys...

The package left me a special impression as the unit came packed in a box, holding a "Tomacro Bag" as well. Nice marketing and I loved it. I opened the box and the size of the unit is impressive. I haven't decided yet rather I like it or not, fact is, that it only can be used standing up and this might cause space issues for many. The package content included the player, a Power Cable, Gold Plater HDMI cable (nice) and the remote control. Anything missing? Yes, the batteries ware not included but I have tons of those (detail). My unit came with a 160GB HDD drive, especially for sureveillance video recording, the Seagate ST3160815AV. First thing I did was opening the box and replace it with a normal drive, 320GB, also Seagate. This process was fairly simple except for the bottom screw to be removed which was tightened too much. The additional screws needing removal, some where broken and we saw the cover plate at the bottom was not a perfect match to the unit.

Enjoy
Franken-Jack... I mean Hi-Jack

PS: The story continues...

How did you get the 160 GB HDD? The website says no HD or 320 GB HDD.

oldpainless68

07-18-07, 01:59 AM

Fan/Jackie

Any news on the NFS guide for me?....and how about the 1080p MKV to TS test file?

K

LianLi

07-18-07, 02:10 AM

Hi-Jack

07-18-07, 02:51 AM

How did you get the 160 GB HDD? The website says no HD or 320 GB HDD.

We acquired a sample for review and TYomacro was so nioce to add a HDD inside
so we could start right away. I did not expect it and went out purchasing a drive
before the package came...

Hitomacro

07-18-07, 04:25 AM

mhiatt,

Agree about your comments. Both networking features could be improved but I
feel strongly the Limhd200i has more catchup to do than the TViX. As where TViX
offers 3/4 sources to be used (PC + NAS + 21/2 additional) the LimHD200i only
offers 1 and the FTP is so helpfull for transfering files without moving things
around.

What I like to see in any player supporting SMB is it detecting the shares and list
them so people can use them without configuration (see N35, EVA8000 and Ziova
for example). This can't be so hard to do and lifts all limits from configuration and
amount of sources that can be used.

I'm looking forward to some firmware updates (707 states it is Beta) so Fan, at
what pace will Tomacro release updates or try to release updates, and is there a
list of items currently pending? It could give some info towards the community
about what the player is about to become)

Enjoy
Hi-Jack

:) Fan comes.
Thanks for your kind comments on our limHD200i.
Thanks for your enthusiasm and cordiality.
Re your questions first:
1. 2 to 3 weeks FW update
2. It depends on our customers. We would like to first add those most concerned by our customers as we can

Already forward your criticism or comments to both our CEO and R&D. Nice!

BTW, I thought you will send me an email informing that you have already got your limHD200i. A little bit disappointed. Anyway I am glad that limHD200 is safe in your hand. :D :D :D

Hi-Jack

07-18-07, 04:45 AM

Hitomacro

07-18-07, 04:58 AM

If your mail keeps bouncing it's nothing i can do :-) We have been backing up
communication using the PM system on MPC and that is where I updated you that
we would pick up the unit yesterday ... Sometimes things ain't what they look like... if you read your messages... lol

:D :D :D then I am happy again.
Cause I am so busy and I apologize for my carelessness.

MPC message board is a little bit confused for me, not so convenient like AVS. Once I tried to check your address in the historical message and I couldn't help sweating all the time.

Thanks.

Regards
Fan
Tomacro Tech.

turly

07-18-07, 10:58 AM

I was ready to "pull the trigger", but, I was concerned the built in HDD interface is IDE and not SATA.

Since most of my movies will be ACVHD I am concerned about transfer rates.

You can rest assured that even any modern 7200RPM IDE drive will be enough to play an 80Mbit stream. Which is about the max supported by the LimHD if I remember correctly.

I'd be more concerned with drive sizes - all the new 750+GB drives appear to be SATA only, or only available in IDE at a price premium.

Still, should be enough to keep us going for the next three or four years, by which time the "next big thing" will come along, forcing us all to empty our wallets once again :D

hdtvplayer

07-18-07, 11:45 AM

hi kculp,

you can see more user interface screenshots at my site
hdtvplayer_info/content/view/17/2 (sorry, first post so pls replace"_" with ".")

Hi-Jack

07-18-07, 11:51 AM

Wassup again :-)
Ok, we continued looking at the Tomacro LimHD200i and love the Quality
playback. Can't really say it's better than others, more like the same but it does
handle bitrates quite well and the image is firm and stable. ell done. Based on
what I saw today, I can only assume they concentrated a lot on file support,
bitrate tweaking to squeeze it through and other stuff related to HD materials...
Unfortunately, so far, it seems to have been at the cost of other functions that
could be better or are missing and are equally important to eventually bring a
balanced positive image of the player in all aspects...

Our second part of the report on LimHD200i...
http://www_mpcclub_com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=289

(Replace _ with .)
PS: Story to big to post and images in story.

Enjoy
Hi-Jack

dp70

07-18-07, 12:54 PM

Corrected link to part II (http://www.mpcclub.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=289)...

oldpainless68

07-18-07, 04:33 PM

Abbas

07-18-07, 04:56 PM

My unit came in today just as Hi-Jack had explained. I have no time to play with it until this weekend. Looking at the build of the unit, it looks pretty well made.

On the downside, I had chosen some movies with the unit and they sent me the wrong ones. I have emailed Jackie about it so hopefully they can send me the right ones.

gendvd

07-19-07, 01:54 AM

SAMBA Network Setup

1.set up sharing media files folder On the computer. Selected folders, click Properties by right-clicking, select Sharing.
2.on the operating procedures click (run), in the running order type cmd round.Import ipconfig order behind The Cursor prompt in the window.
get ip address of the computer.
3.In limHD200i, click setup on the remote control,choose networkpath, Open soft keyboard, import ip address got from the second step. For instance, my computer ip address is : http : / / 192.168.16.2/media (media is my shared documents folderI set up in the first step
4.Click exit on the remote control, then on television screens display the main interface, choose samba network, then you can share the media files in the meida shared folder.
The steps have been tested to be normal under the windowsxp. The screen pictures will be uploaded to AVS Forum tonight.

http://www.hdav.com.cn/samba1.jpg
http://www.hdav.com.cn/samba2.jpg
http://www.hdav.com.cn/samba3.jpg
http://www.hdav.com.cn/samba4.jpg
http://www.hdav.com.cn/samba5.jpg

oldpainless68

07-19-07, 02:15 AM

SAMBA Network Setup

1.set up sharing media files folder On the computer. Selected folders, click Properties by right-clicking, select Sharing.
2.on the operating procedures click (run), in the running order type cmd round.Import ipconfig order behind The Cursor prompt in the window.
get ip address of the computer.
3.In limHD200i, click setup on the remote control,choose networkpath, Open soft keyboard, import ip address got from the second step. For instance, my computer ip address is : http : / / 192.168.16.2/media (media is my shared documents folderI set up in the first step
4.Click exit on the remote control, then on television screens display the main interface, choose nfs network, then you can share the media files in the meida shared folder.
The steps have been tested to be normal under the windowsxp. The screen pictures will be uploaded to AVS Forum tonight.

Jackie, many thanks.

This is a setup for SAMBA, but I wanted help with NFS...SAMBA is too slow at the moment in 0707.

K

Hi-Jack

07-19-07, 03:03 AM

You know what....even Hi-Jack, for all his picking on a young firmware.....he's impressed with the picture quality. Yeap....to some, additional stuff is nice, I would agree there, but given a choice.....nice to have's or picture quality....let's see which one I'd pick....mmmm...lol

To add to that, all views are welcome here.....free speach and others views are KING. Hi-Jack....your views here can only add to helping Tomacro create a world class media streamer.......so thanks for that....however, file formats, bitrate and picture quality must come 1st....as I'm sure you would agree..

K

I do agree but the total picture is equally important and let's not forget some things...

The ISO/IFO is missing, the subtitles are equaly important on HD files than on SD
files (outlined), FF/RW are also important for every file and a list of other options
like TimeSearch, Bookmarks, progressive zoom, Subtitle sync/positions, panning
etc... (The main lines for any player is Quality, Operations, Usability and Stability)
It all adds more Quality to the general player above quality image only...

If file support is the only thing important, there's about 15% of pro and fanatics
buying it, by completing the complete picture of the player it becomes a family
jukebox kids and your wife can use and on top of that, there should be no limit
where your files are stored so SMB (more sources) is important too...

As for Quality, it is superb indeed but as i said, on normal sized TV's you won't
see a difference really compared to the competition... For beamers and huge TV's
(60"and up) there's a clearer advantage...

These players still are a niche thing to have so one has to reach the maximum
amount of people with these to make it profiteable and so far the target set is
mainly "Quality" and not the general user looking for convenience, versatility and
ease of use inside an "all-round" media player...

Buying it for it's Quality is wrong as that Quality doesn't bring you anything if
support is missing or the player is hard to handle inside a family or limited to a
single source for that matter over SMB... (Too many boundaries)

Just my 2 cents.
I believe Tomacro will increase the value but as I always said, these units are
rushed to market and use consumers as test source of which I can't say anything
bad as we want it, to help them progress... In it's current state the player is
expensive and immature and it's hard to sell if one has to pay a mature price
for it and then hope it will keep improving against the fact a lot depends on the
amount of sold devices for a Company to continue dev on it or not.

PS: I'm not picking on the device, I'm reviewing it from a consumer angle and over
the years I build this Auto Sense for things that might not annoy you right away
(everything is cool in the beginning) but eventually will and an eye for detail in
features/convenience based on what is most requested / expected by "normal"
consumers...

I settle for a bit less Quality image anytime for a player that operates stable and
features everything from trick operations to networking useability... I strongly
believe Quality is overrated sometimes and the ones willing to have decent
Quality, superb and crisp images, they all invest in a scaler :-)

Enjoy

oldpainless68

07-19-07, 03:33 AM

I do agree but the total picture is equally important and let's not forget some things...

The ISO/IFO is missing, the subtitles are equaly important on HD files than on SD
files (outlined), FF/RW are also important for every file and a list of other options
like TimeSearch, Bookmarks etc... (The main lines for any player is Quality, Operations,
Usability and Stability)

If file support is the only thing important, there's about 15% of pro and fanatics
buying it, by completing the complete picture of the player it becomes a family
jukebox kids and your wife can use and on top of that, there should be no limit
where your files are stored so SMB (more sources) is important too...

As for Quality, it is superb indeed but as i said, on normal sized TV's you won't
see a difference really compared to the competition... For beamers and huge TV's
(60"and up) there's a clearer advantage...

These players still are a niche thing to have so one has to reach the maximum
amount of people with these to make it profiteable and so far the target set is
mainly "Quality" and not the general user looking for convenience, versatility and
ease of use inside an "all-round" media player...

Buying it for it's Quality is wrong as that Quality doesn't bring you anything if
support is missing or the player is hard to handle inside a family or limited to a
single source for that matter over SMB... (Too many boundaries)

Just my 2 cents.
I believe Tomacro will increase the value but as I always said, these units are
rushed to market and use consumers as test source of which I can't say anything
bad as we want it, to help them progress... In it's current state the player is
expensive and immature and it's hard to sell if one has to pay a mature price
for it and then hope it will keep improving against the fact a lot depends on the
amount of sold devices for a Company to continue dev on it or not.

PS: I'm not picking on the device, I'm reviewing it from a consumer angle and over
the years I build this Auto Sense for things that might not annoy you right away
(everything is cool in the beginning) but eventually will and an eye for detail in
features/convenience based on what is most requested / expected by "normal"
consumers...

I settle for a bit less Quality image anytime for a player that operates stable and
features everything from trick operations to networking useability... I strongly
believe Quality is overrated sometimes and the ones willing to have decent
Quality, superb and crisp images, they all invest in a scaler :-)

Enjoy

I agree with nearly everything that you have said....hence all the feedback to Tomacro enabling them to put the features etc needed..

K

madshi

07-19-07, 04:31 AM

@Hi-Jack, thanks for your comments. What I'd like to know is if you've tried playing some Blu-Ray and HD DVD rips on both the limHD and the TViX. I'm asking because the limHD seems to be the only box available right now which is able to play such videos fluidly, which is *essential* for me. Good networking support is essential for me, too, though, as is MKV support... :D

Hi-Jack

07-19-07, 07:16 AM

We haven't done any real testing of files thus far so no opinion there yet. We
only checked the Quality... Files will be coming during the weekend probably...

Probably can read about if after the weekend...

PS: Part III (Media Playback tests :-)
http://www.mpcclub.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=291

conker2007

07-19-07, 10:41 PM

An article on the MPCCLUB forum says the district sale manager of DViCo invited Hi-Jack to spend a holiday together, so we now understand why Hi-Jack lauds Tvix player greatly. What's his purpose on picking on the limHD200i in every possible fastidious way I cannot guess, but at least he is misguiding. As a customer, I do hope that his mouth could be equipped with a little justice. Well, what we can do now is only to polish eyes, see what kind of reviews Hi-Jack gonna do to the limHD200i.

----------------------------- quote -----------------------------------------
http://www.mpcclub.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=273&mode=&order=0&thold=0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi-Jack's Holiday Article

ooh. Things will be rather silent on the News Section during my leave while the forums keep growing as mainly you as a visitor is stuffing it full of information and feedback. We did not want to take off, enjoying our annual leave before making another YaNa (Yet Another News Article), something more meaningful than saying goodbye for now. So, if you'd like to catch up what has been happening on our first days off while still being close to my computer, than this is you chance. We have some things to say about Linksys / KiSS, Rapsody, Coworld, DViCo and then some... Just head on clicking on "Read More" to... read more...!

DViCO in Cheese Country
Oh yea. Anderson Kwon, International Sales Manager of DViCo, MPC's favorite Korean Company of Hard Drive multimedia players was in the neighborhood. We got up at 6am, jumped in the car and drove over 3 hours to get there, sit down, and chat! Once it was over, we had information about future products, mkv information and an invitation to visit Korea, for as it seems, they are really found of what MPC has done with the product coverage, the feedback and so much more and it's all thanks to you! Hence, the reason why we go through the efforts on writing this short article about it.

DViCo targets the 5500 by the end of the year but, before that time has come, it is still looking to get .mkv rolling on the M-4100SH and M-5100SH players. a status of progress is not available but we could detect something is cooking. DViCo is careful into making statements though. In fact, the issue with mkv is not the container, but separating video and audio within the limitations of the chip and memory and still get it running stable. Not an easy task for the developers but as we said before, if anyone can do it, it will be DViCo! Further discussion was about future products. It's almost crazy thinking about how far ahead DViCo is making plans on 6000, 7000 and 8000 models! Throw Blu-Ray, HD DVD, Wireless N inside the "Moulin" and mix it, and you probably get a picture of where the new models are heading too.

Unfortunately, no details are given about the new products but DViCo is interested into seeing what you feel should be in them, so MPC will start up a thread where you can post your ideas and needs...

Rapsody - Coworld: Finally work in progress!
While passing the review just fine, the months after the N35 was released was a lot less spectacular with some very annoying bugs and a huge gap in information when a new firmware would be developed. Now, MPC took time to sit and talk with Dacos and Coworld and a solution is in the make. Main concentration is around the DVD ISO subtitles issue, storing BCS controls, add some international languages and fix other outstanding bugs reporting for as much as possible. The BETA is expected in about 10 days making sure we got work piled up as soon as we return from holidays. To give you an idea what is currently happening.

- Reviewing NetGear HDEVA8000
- Scheduled: NetGear ReadyNAS NV+
- Syabas NMT Alpha Testing
- N35 Firmware Testing
- DViCo TViX FW testing

And all continuous right after our return... but... It's not going to be silent on the NMT and NetGear. BuGGeR will be in charge of MPC while i'm gone and continue releasing info as he progresses in making his own opinion up during my leave. Beside that, there will be plenty time for us to continue afterwards as the units are not expected before the end of August...

Linksys Improving? (Reporter Style)
It seems like it. As usual people keep sending us mails they received from Linksys / KISS support and they seem to improve, yet remain unclear and we often can think of better answers. But, it's becoming better. Along with a recent update for the Linksys KiSS 1600, it might be that a lot of concentration is growing towards repairing a history of making damage in people's minds concerning KiSS products. Too bad, it will still not help older consumers to render their investment into a good thing. Still no single motion is detected that shows something is done, or will be done eventually. Our recommendation for now remains to not buy the products either because they are simply bad, or if you like them anyway, because of solidarity with your fellow consumers. MPC said it's much too early to say if this improvement is temporary or will last. MPC might rethink its opinion in a month or 36, the time KiSS usually needs to something themselves...

DViCo trouble in BNL region resolved!
There was something going on which was very dirty in the Benelux market about DViCo products. Combining forces with MPC and MPC Partners, the issue has resolved. What was happening actually is one small store (MPC partner) profiling itself as distributor and getting 30% of margin from the distributor he purchased the units from. Eventually he presented these players to other stores at only 10% margin, roaming off the profits. Not the real problem but this construction would have caused consumers to be in an endless loop of getting support or replacement of broken units under warranty, if problems would arise. The issue has now been resolved together with the (important) parties involved and the TviX will soon be wide spread in the BNL region with benefits for MPC users through our chain of reselling partners. We would like to mention clearly that DviCo as a Company was not involved in creating the situation but fully active to get it resolved adequately with MPC to ensure proper levels of support throughout the region.

Hi-Jack on Holidays
And then the most important news of the day... :-) I'm off to Turkey (Bodrum) tomorrow and will not participate in anything concerning MPC for these short 11 days. Since MPC keeps me occupied all the other 351 days, I guess it's a well earned holiday, even though I look forward returning with so much goodies awaiting me. (I secretly sneaked along the DViCo TViX for some playtime in Turkey but please don't tell my girlfriend...)

Enjoy

Hi-Jack

07-20-07, 12:06 AM

Conker,

An article on the MPCCLUB forum says the district sale manager of DViCo invited Hi-Jack to spend a holiday together...

Yeah, right! Where does it say that?

Don't be silly mate... You don't even know how we work and don't even know we
had an invitation to visit the mnufacturara (we done it many times before). If you
want to tell people i'm lying or favorable then proove me wrong about LimHD200i
and show me today it does something what I say it doesn't...

Do I like TViX better? Yes, it's much more mature but it has had years of
developmen, monhtly FW releases and so on... something Tomacro still has to
proove being capable of but I do trust them completely. It does'nt change
anything concerning what the product is today and the price. It can become
the best of them all or fail trying to be...

Your post says a lot about you actually... You favor Limhd200i and no one should
say it's not as good as you think/feel it is... People know MPC for years and know
we are unbiased in our reviews and reports... (except for KISS-Technology lately)
and an "unaccepted" invitation to Korea deson't change anything.

Anyway, nothing I need explaining you for.
Enjoy

PS: We will not make a full review of the Limhd200i for now, just the blog articales
considering it is still Beta and trust me, I don't care who buys what or have any
affiliation with DViCo or anyone else to make money on sales... I just report
on what I see, prefer, think...

Attacking me personally for your "love" with Tomacro is bad man. What is your
connection with Tomacro? Reseller? Employee? If not, feel free to make your own
reports and share it with everyone here and everywhere else if you feel they are
more credible... Sure people would love to see what you have to say.

PS2: Turkey was a private holiday and I took a TviX along for the evenings to
whatch series. How does that link me to being unbiased? I did not have the
Tomacro back then and the size is too damn big to be portable if I did have it then.

Johnny

07-20-07, 12:19 AM

Hi-Jack

07-20-07, 12:28 AM

No kidding. He claimed in his review of the Tvix 4100/5100 that it had no issues with H.264 material. In fact, the Tvix 4100/5100 plays very little H.264 material and frequently skips or drops sound when playing H.264 material.

Wrong facts man...
The latest release FW dropped sound and this bug was not inside the FW we reviewed.
See DViCo site for info on the announcement of the bug.

I said in the review the files tested ran perfectly fine including sound but consider
the player as a normal one with some "basic" added support for H.264 because of
the chipset is limited in capabilities as we say for all EM8622/23 players. It will
never become a mature H.264 player... all they can do is patch it up to get more
stuff playing on it.

I also said, if you're not looking for the H.264 player only, it is a nice bridge to use
until the more mature EM8634 players kick in...

TViX is tested with TS, AVI, MP4, MOV and m2ts files in H.264 and everything
played fine! I don't call that very limited in the way you mean it to sound but
true, it's not a mature H.264 player, neither is Tomacro or any other EM8622/23
based brick...

Why is it again that i'm under attack now?

muad'dib

07-20-07, 12:59 AM

[QUOTE=Originally Posted by Johnny
No kidding. He claimed in his review of the Tvix 4100/5100 that it had no issues with H.264 material. In fact, the Tvix 4100/5100 plays very little H.264 material and frequently skips or drops sound when playing H.264 material.[/QUOTE]

Well I for one am VERY PLEASED with Tvix for H264 AVC playback..

I would say that about 95% of H264 AVC TS files I played with Tvix, play perfect... No audio problems, or video Issues..

NOw, not to say that I have not had some issues with some files, but hey, what media player is Totally Perfect on ALL files..

We are at the mercy of the people Encoding these bad files..

When the files are done right, WOW, Tvix plays them perfect...

Now with this Whole MKV thing, Well, YES we will have some problems when converting... MKV is an animal!!

Soon to be cracked, but for now, I can live with little glitches now and then..

Just my 2 cents.. :)

Hi-Jack

07-20-07, 01:20 AM

You know, this attack actually bothers me as I haven't seen any comments so far
by the ones attacking so far that looks at the player in a complete way. All they
concentrate on is H.264 and it's true that Tomacro beats TviX in support of these
files but that's about all the Tomacro is ahead on compared to the DviCo.

Compared to Linksys 1600 (so acclaimed H.264 player) I take Tomacro anytime...
Compared to the NetGear, a different story... Both units will have it's advantages.

There's one thing of needing H.264 and then say Tomacro is the best fit (it's ture)
but it's another to look at the complete product and perform generally well on all
aspects "normal users" expect to have for the money. There is none, and there
will be no perfect player and H.264 is great to have but will never perform as well
on Tomacro or TviX as it will on a EM8634 player in the near future...

These players are a bridge to that time where EM8634 becomes available and
bring fun in the mean time and most fun is made by the total product including
music, pictures, H.264 as much as possible and general video playback and
features.

If i'm stating that DViCo is favorite, it's not because we have any advantages with
them. They have been releasing monthly updates, added tons of features requested
by the community fast and accurate keeping an open communication all the time.

Tomacro is heading for the same way so my opinion can only become better if
they do what they claim they will be doing but in no way can I as hardware
reviewer quote a complete Multimedia product on it's performance on H.264
alone. That's a liberty only visitors and members have, not reviewers...

Now all i'm writing is just an opinion, mine. Your opinion can be totally different,
you can think different things are important and you can experience things
differently and I respect anyone's opinion... but I won't get sucked up in yelling
halleluia for Tomacro because of it's performance in H.264... There's more to it
than that alone... If you can't accept that, i'm not the one being unfair or unreal.

If you feel i'm not doing the product justic or claim my messages to be untrue, I
believe we all want to see you reason about it and proof me wrong by showing
me things are working where I say they don't... if you can't, I guess I must be
telling the truth after all...

Enjoy your weekends.
I know at least some will appreciate the work we done and know what they buy
up front...

For the record:
Tomacro beats the TViX in H.264 with head and shoulders... (We aven have an
award for Tomacro for it released later today). In all other comparissons, it does
not impress beyond file playback abilities and others are way ahead in operations,
versatility (networking, FTP, fluent FF/RW, bookmarks, DVD/ISO/IFO, FLAC and
more...)

It goes without saying Tomacro can beat the DviCo in time, but today, that's
simply not the case. I'm sorry if you feel different just because it handles H.264 better...

oldpainless68

07-20-07, 03:19 AM

Bleeding Hell....I go to bed and wake upto WWWIII going on!!....

Ok....this is how it is.....everyone has a system they like for different reasons....me..I like the LIM cus of what it can play and picture quality. Is the firmware mature...nope....is there still lots of things to fix...yeap....

So, back to what this thread is for.....views about the LimHD - what is does well, what needs tweaking, and what other functions we'd like to see.

So, what ever media player you like, have fun.

K

Poorbeek

07-20-07, 03:24 AM

Hi focks,

We just receive 2 sample units from Tomacro. Because we are an webshop in Europe wo is perhaps interested in selling these units. Can someone tell me if HD-DVD is supported because i checked yesterday evening late and did not get it to work, perhaps i was to sleepy to see.

Where can i find the last and best mkv to ts conversion and also a description of how it works. Because i did some conversions yesterday and they where not working properly.

Paul
Pacific Audio

oldpainless68

07-20-07, 03:29 AM

conker2007

07-20-07, 03:33 AM

Conker,

Yeah, right! Where does it say that?

Don't be silly mate... You don't even know how we work and don't even know we
had an invitation to visit the mnufacturara (we done it many times before). If you
want to tell people i'm lying or favorable then proove me wrong about LimHD200i
and show me today it does something what I say it doesn't...

Do I like TViX better? Yes, it's much more mature but it has had years of
developmen, monhtly FW releases and so on... something Tomacro still has to
proove being capable of but I do trust them completely. It does'nt change
anything concerning what the product is today and the price. It can become
the best of them all or fail trying to be...

Your post says a lot about you actually... You favor Limhd200i and no one should
say it's not as good as you think/feel it is... People know MPC for years and know
we are unbiased in our reviews and reports... (except for KISS-Technology lately)
and an "unaccepted" invitation to Korea deson't change anything.

Anyway, nothing I need explaining you for.
Enjoy

PS: We will not make a full review of the Limhd200i for now, just the blog articales
considering it is still Beta and trust me, I don't care who buys what or have any
affiliation with DViCo or anyone else to make money on sales... I just report
on what I see, prefer, think...

Attacking me personally for your "love" with Tomacro is bad man. What is your
connection with Tomacro? Reseller? Employee? If not, feel free to make your own
reports and share it with everyone here and everywhere else if you feel they are
more credible... Sure people would love to see what you have to say.

PS2: Turkey was a private holiday and I took a TviX along for the evenings to
whatch series. How does that link me to being unbiased? I did not have the
Tomacro back then and the size is too damn big to be portable if I did have it then.

I am not intentional to attack you, there is also no reason to attack you, because we have no gains and losses conflict, I am just the consumer of limHD200i, I also purchased Tvix M-4100SH, I just feel your speech has already lose fair, the verbalism of expression is very vigorous and the emotive color is very strong. For the sake of your reputation, I suggest you don't do so. Otherwise everyone will not believe you.

Okay?

oldpainless68

07-20-07, 03:36 AM

Can you guys take it outside...this is getting boring!!!

K

Poorbeek

07-20-07, 04:06 AM

Paul....what's the file format.cus it should work. MKV to TS....see the h.264 conversion thread...it's all there, including the files needed.

K

I will check tonight when i am home. Then i can see what the formats are.

Tux

07-20-07, 04:49 AM

This thread is indeed getting silly :rolleyes: But it did get my attention with regards to the Tomacro being better at handling H.264 files. I have been considering getting a LimHD (when they are available in Europe. Customs will hammer me with import duties if importing from China) to compliment my TViX4100.
So, how is the limHD better at handling these files than the TViX? All test clips posted here have played well on the TViX. All mkv ---> ts conversions using oldpainless method that I have made have worked. The only problem is with high bitrate files over network (NFS) .... these stutter and get audio dropouts. Does the limHD handle high bitrate files over network ?

Thank you.

Hi-Jack

07-20-07, 06:08 AM

Sorry guys...
I just restrict myself from posting further comments of the review...

Tux,
LimHD200i is capable of slightly higher bitrates but NFS is pretty much the same. Further,
the increase of bitrate is possibly due to less processes running in the background (like FTP)
and less memory usage as well where features cause less free resources on the Dvico.

Enjoy

dp70

07-20-07, 07:56 AM

Received my limHD200i... here are a few pictures.

It comes in a cloth mesh bag perfectly-sized to carry the box, I guess for free advertising as the happy purchaser walks home in Hong Kong. The box and player are much bigger than I expected. I included a standard DVD case in the photo for scale:
http://www.frontiernet.net/~mfontana/avs/limhd_bag.jpg
http://www.frontiernet.net/~mfontana/avs/limhd_box.jpg

The player is well-packed in its carton with sturdy foam:
http://www.frontiernet.net/~mfontana/avs/limhd_packing.jpg

Contents of the accessories box (CD, remote, power cable, power supply, USB cable, HDMI cable, warranty card). As Hi-Jack mentioned, the two AAA batteries needed for the remote are not included. There is also no printed manual- it comes as a PDF file on a mini CD-R. The PDF file (or disc?) turned out to be corrupted, so it's fortunate the manual is also available on the web site. The supplied power cable is the large, angled 3-pin type used in Hong Kong, but the power supply brick accepts a standard IEC (computer-style) power cable, so I'll just use a spare one I have lying around.
http://www.frontiernet.net/~mfontana/avs/limhd_acc.jpg

Side view. The case is indeed solid aluminum and about 3mm thick! The workmanship is about on par for other Chinese products I have bought - the machining has the kind of rough edges you wouldn't typically see on a Japanese product. You can also see a scratch on the side. The display panel and plastic viewing window are nicely-done, though. Overall, I'd say the build quality is better than expected.
http://www.frontiernet.net/~mfontana/avs/limhd_side.jpg

A heavy, solid metal stand screws onto the bottom of the limHD:
http://www.frontiernet.net/~mfontana/avs/limhd_bottom.jpg

Removing the bottom cover provides access to the hard drive. The drive and boards slide into the case on grooves for easy assembly. My unit had a loose screw rattling around inside when it arrived. I couldn't find any screws missing, though, so I guess it is an extra...
http://www.frontiernet.net/~mfontana/avs/limhd_inside.jpg

The back panel.
http://www.frontiernet.net/~mfontana/avs/limhd_back.jpg

Initially, I'll be connecting the limHD via component. I forgot that it provides its component output via an HD15 (VGA) connector. I thought I had the necessary cable on hand, but I must have loaned it out, so I ordered a new one and it should arrive soon. For those considering selling the limHD in the U.S., maybe it would be a good idea to include an HD15->3 RCA cable in the accessories kit.

Top panel buttons.
http://www.frontiernet.net/~mfontana/avs/limhd_buttons.jpg
Note to Tomacro: you might want to improve the font in the silkscreening labeling the buttons. I'm pretty sure the bottom button is supposed to say EXIT, but it may not read that way to some users (like my wife, who remarked "Hey, did you see it has a SH*T button?" :D)

mhiatt

07-20-07, 10:01 AM

I now own both the limHD200i and the TVIX 4100. I can try to answer some questions, but at this point, I still agree with Hi-Jacks comments (Hi-Jack, ignore the ugly comments) and give the nod to TVIX's unit at this point (firmware wars begin!):

TVIX Pros (105" w/ Infocus PJ)

-Picture quality, non-scientific test, family choose TVIX, hmmm
-Size
-No Power Brick, I hate those
-Fan is virtually silent, no issue
-IFO support - huge for me (I know, coming in FW)
-Faster firmware updates (minor, but hey, this is my list)
-Price
-Tuner/DVR option

I sure there are other differences, but besides a subjective picture quality argument, what advantage does the limHD200i offer? I have not found any files the TVIX will not play that the limHD200 does. My two cents.

M

conker2007

07-20-07, 10:25 AM

mhiatt

07-20-07, 10:27 AM

Big difference: limHD200i can play VC1 (AVI, TS) video files, Tvix can't play or play stutterly. I have tested 7 moives.

curious. the ones i have play for me on both. the ones that dont play, dont play on both. i'll try a few more.

Hi-Jack

07-20-07, 10:32 AM

The LimHD has better performance when playing backed up bluray at higher bitrates than
Dvico though most files will play on both. The LimHD200i is a tiny bit more stable on the
image than DviCo but for the rest there is no difference in quality but stability is very
important on big screen/beamer + the VGA output is a + for beamer use as well... That's
about it.

Another thing very important that attracts many to the LimHD200i is their claim to
eventually support mkv. Actually both brands are, and probably end up using the same or
different methods of doing so. One thing is almost certain about this, where it will be a
software solution and not hardware (unless sigma changes SDK code which they won't).

Anyway, before I stated that if anyone can do it, it would be DviCo but i'm happy to include
Tomacro as well as possible candidate (who will be first?). Both players will have their fair
share in market bit for general purpose... i won't even repeat it :-)

It's huge, isn't it?
Loved your comment about the **** button :-)
I missed that and might still use it for some fun when launching the next Story.

Enjoy them both...

conker2007

07-20-07, 10:35 AM

curious. the ones i have play for me on both. the ones that dont play, dont play on both. i'll try a few more.

pls list the file info.

conker2007

07-20-07, 11:28 AM

Sorry guys...

LimHD200i is capable of slightly higher bitrates but NFS is pretty much the same. Further,
the increase of bitrate is possibly due to less processes running in the background (like FTP)
and less memory usage as well where features cause less free resources on the Dvico.

Enjoy

I don't think so:

System can stop FTP background running while playing video files.

Although it's the same SDK that the Sigma provides, the stability,capability and performance of the player in the very great degree depend on development ability, otherwise the groups which can develop HD player must be all over the world.

I'm just in regard to technique level here.

cHarOn99

07-20-07, 11:37 AM

if you know something about developing an firmware on such devices then you know more features means less power and that has nothing todo with developement power!!! the tommacro device is really limited on features against the tvix device.
Yes the sdk is for all the same and is for all the same **** because sigma makes an bad developement tool, i think thats the reason why the 863x chips wil support full Linux!! because then you have more ways to make improvements and and and.
You can see the difference on syabas devices which wrotes there own software and dev system for 8634 based devices.
So when the same features are in then the tvix already has in and the player runs still smoother then the tomacro device is good and thats all.

best wishes cHarOn

dp70

07-20-07, 12:24 PM

Wonder why a company like Dvico or Tomacro doesn't ditch Sigma's SDK and reference implementation and write their own, more stable firmware? Unless the SDK includes workarounds for bugs in the ASIC, seems like a fresh implementation against the datasheet could eventually lead to a competitive advantage, though such an effort would definitely impact time to market...

Hi-Jack

07-20-07, 12:51 PM

There's not much options for them beside going awall on computers... Something like an
Xbox for DivX would be nice but probably too expensive against a full PC if you have to add
decent processor, memory and such... There's room for improvement and the biggest challenge for manuf. is delivering a player that comes close to doing it all decent...

I understand how difficult it is (hence I couldn't do it :-) ). This world is basicaly about
paying full price for half players and people are happy to sit and wait for some options to
come so Tomacro has a whole world to conquer in the next few months but must avoid
building options better on one side only at the cost of leaving other important things out.

It's finding that right balance between features, gadgets, playback and options that makes
a player great, best seler or just a limited device targeted for a "small share" of users...

The EM8634 players should mean a big difference. I know there's talk
about "them" being equal to the current em8622/23 players but I don't buy that
for a second... The fact these players are so close make it even harder for brands
to get their players in your living rooms...

conker2007

07-20-07, 01:07 PM

Perhaps one day the HD players can cook, sweep, and do everything.

pteittinen

07-20-07, 01:11 PM

Wonder why a company like Dvico or Tomacro doesn't ditch Sigma's SDK and reference implementation and write their own, more stable firmware?
Because it's incredibly difficult to start from scratch without a manufacturer's SDK, I bet. I would personally love to see Dvico or some other manufacturer open up the development for everyone, much like Linux is developed. Sigma probably has some clauses in their licensing to prevent that, though.

conker2007

07-20-07, 01:43 PM

Hi-Jack

07-20-07, 03:57 PM

The longer it takes for you to agree with me, the longer I been ahead of you :-)
Now discuss the product like an adult, share your opinion on the Tomacro and not on me, if
you have somthing usefull to say...

Hi-Jack

07-20-07, 03:58 PM

Because it's incredibly difficult to start from scratch without a manufacturer's SDK, I bet. I would personally love to see Dvico or some other manufacturer open up the development for everyone, much like Linux is developed. Sigma probably has some clauses in their licensing to prevent that, though.

So far it seems EM8634 will run Linux version. That should bring the community to
life doing custom dev... Some wil be happy to hear this is my last post on the
Tomacro subject... We reviewed it and we said what we thing and feel... The last
part of the story has been launched so arrivederci... (award Best Performance
H.264)

pteittinen

07-20-07, 05:58 PM

So far it seems EM8634 will run Linux version. That should bring the community to life doing custom dev...
That would be excellent. A horde of intelligent Linux programmers can get any media box singing and dancing in no time at all.

Some wil be happy to hear this is my last post on the Tomacro subject... We reviewed it and we said what we thing and feel... The last part of the story has been launched so arrivederci... (award Best Performance H.264)
Hi-Jack, having wasted a LOT of money on a large number of media players during the past 3-4 years I understand perfectly where you're coming from wrt your criticism. And I don't mean only towards Tomacro's box - the criticism and categories you mentioned apply equally to every single media player ever released. Personally I think every one I've tested so far sucks, more or less. It might be my requirements (streaming over LAN) that make the boxes such disappointments, though, thanks to underpowered CPUs. And then there's Pixel Magic Systems, which is a whole other story...

gendvd

07-20-07, 09:10 PM

dobeman

07-20-07, 11:36 PM

Hi-Jack

07-21-07, 02:17 AM

pteitinnen,
Luckily we don't spend "a lot of money" on the players as manufacturars send us samples. We do pay the import and such and usually hard drives for the devices (we also review NAS Storage devices). Being honest about products sometimes can break the relationship but I feel Tomacro is open to it and will use criticism to play on a higher level over time.

I'm sorry to hear you did and true...
Now if wireless is a concern, only Wireless N will reach speeds that support HD
streaming. i'm sure you found out about that in the mean time. It's also a
marketing trick in the unitsz claiming 10/100 mbit network and then perform
between 1-7 at max due to limited bandwidth on the chip... It's the same for all
products, even cars, it's marketing :-)

Tested Bluray backups that give an edge to Tomacro over competition are VC-1
(TS, Mpeg4). The same files fail on other players like TViX (choppy), KiSS 1600
and NetGear (fw beta just like Tomacro). We also took most files posted here.

For the other files, we not found problems on either player...

oldpainless68

07-21-07, 03:26 AM

Jackie/Fan

Can you add selectable output at 24hz for 720p and 1080p source into the development log...

Regards

Kevin

LianLi

07-21-07, 04:56 AM

oldpainless68

07-21-07, 05:07 AM

Is the Tomacro going to support WMA3 audio codec in a later firmware? xD Kevin your doing a great job. Oh yeah that test file you uploaded worked great on mine. It was a clip of Denzel Washington..Although when I do the TS conversion I get the picture break up.

Thanks,
Enrique

Some films need to be done via the MKV2VFR>AVI.........Yeah, I'm pushing for WMA3 5.1 to DD 5.1 output (as the 360 does)

K

leo_bsb

07-21-07, 06:18 PM

digitalkid2

07-21-07, 06:39 PM

Regarding the price Vs performance on these new players, don't you guys think that we can build a cheap htpc, around $500, for example:
nMEDIAPC HTPC 100 SA case $79.99
BIOSTAR TForce TF7025-M2 Motherboard $65.99
SAPPHIRE 100203L Radeon HD 2400PRO Video Card $49.99
Athlon 64 X2 3800+(65W) $65.00
WINTEC AMPX 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800 $89.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive $79.99
BTC 9019URFIII Black USB RF Wireless Mini Multimedia Keyboard $37.99
LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write Black SATA $30.99

total: $499.93

If you want Windows you can add $100 for a XP media center.
You can browse the internet and don’t bother about codec compatibility. If you add the HDD on the limHD200i or the Tvix they will cost almost the same price of that HTPC.
I was really tempted to buy a media player but with the computer hardware prices going down for relatively powerful machines I’ll drop the players.
HTPC vs Networked media player.....hmmm. For most it is NOT a cost issue it is one of complexity vs simplicity. HTPC is simply more complex to setup and maintain.

The $459 price tag (no HDD) for the limHD is definitely on the high side and one should consider an HTPC especially if they are technically capable of setting it up and maintaining it but HTPC is not for most people. Networked media players are still more than most can handle but IMO there are many more people that have enough knowledge and motivation to get a network media player working than an HTPC.

IMHO it will not be much longer before there is a wide selection of TVs with networking capability built right in and that is where the GENERAL puplic will go.

leo_bsb

07-21-07, 08:26 PM

So, basically you think that if I have the knowledge I should go towards my HTPC setup? With the limHD price tag I would definitely buy the HTPC. IMHO

HTPC vs Networked media player.....hmmm. For most it is NOT a cost issue it is one of complexity vs simplicity. HTPC is simply more complex to setup and maintain.

The $459 price tag (no HDD) for the limHD is definitely on the high side and one should consider an HTPC especially if they are technically capable of setting it up and maintaining it but HTPC is not for most people. Networked media players are still more than most can handle but IMO there are many more people that have enough knowledge and motivation to get a network media player working than an HTPC.

IMHO it will not be much longer before there is a wide selection of TVs with networking capability built right in and that is where the GENERAL puplic will go.

dobeman

07-21-07, 08:43 PM

So, basically you think that if I have the knowledge I should go towards my HTPC setup? With the limHD price tag I would definitely buy the HTPC. IMHO

It also depends on whether or not you want hi def material. If the answer is yes, then you are looking at spending a tremendous amount more for the CPU and graphics card, plus blu ray and hd dvd drives/burners, larger hard drives, more expensive motherboard, ect. I figured on a "minimum" of around $1500 for the set up that would play "everything", at least that is everything at the moment.

Jim J

07-21-07, 11:04 PM

you are going to need those HD drives anyway, if you are going to 'rip' the contents to be played on a networked media player. that cpu and gpu will work fine too I think.

Jet-X

07-22-07, 12:01 AM

But in my opinion, for HD player,to have a much more bitrates and more stable image are the most important points to choose a HD player. We know the main aim for us to use a HD player. The other functions are auxiliary. Also HDlim200i is improving. Tomacro are making great efforts to develope its potential and make the version upgrade comtinuously.

In one respect I'm glad Tomacro are issuing frequent updates to address the issues with the player. That's a big step above many of the other media player companies. However, in another, it does go to show that these media players are being rushed to market before they are truly ready. Otherwise, there wouldn't be a need for frequent firmware updates.

dp70

07-22-07, 02:42 AM

oldpainless68

07-22-07, 07:39 AM

I found that the limHD200i has a web server running at port 52272. It does not return any interactive pages; rather, it looks like its purpose is to support UPnP AV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Plug_and_Play). The server is listed as POSIX, UPnP/1.0, Intel MicroStack/1.0.1799.

Hey Mark....so what's the upshot of that?

K

UPDATE: read your link Mark....would I be the only one that think Windows Media connect would be good?

oldpainless68

07-22-07, 07:40 AM

HRTraveler

07-22-07, 08:26 AM

In one respect I'm glad Tomacro are issuing frequent updates to address the issues with the player. That's a big step above many of the other media player companies. However, in another, it does go to show that these media players are being rushed to market before they are truly ready. Otherwise, there wouldn't be a need for frequent firmware updates.

That is the reason I have elected not to purchase at this time.

I told Tomacro the same thing in an email.

This player is being sold at a price point where you should expect a mature product. I believe they would have been ahead of the game to release the initial units at a price of around $299 to $349 US dollars. Considering it costs an additional $75 shipping from China this is a very expensive unit.

I do believe most people buying these at this point would be glad to help beta test the unit and make suggestions and recommendations. I am just suprised people are paying the current price.

In the U.S. you can get the TVIX M4100SH for $379 plus reasonable shipping. It appears to have its faults, but overall a more mature device.

Thanks to all of you who are making or have made purchases. You will make the unit worth looking at in 6 months to a year from now.

pteittinen

07-22-07, 08:37 AM

Now if wireless is a concern, only Wireless N will reach speeds that support HD streaming. i'm sure you found out about that in the mean time. It's also a
marketing trick in the unitsz claiming 10/100 mbit network and then perform
between 1-7 at max due to limited bandwidth on the chip... It's the same for all
products, even cars, it's marketing :-)
I've got Wireless N in the house, but I'm not using it for anything. I've got 2-8 GBit LAN sockets in pretty much every room, and a bunch of NAS boxes feeding content to media players. Samba is bloody well useless in most of the cases, and I've had only limited success with NFS. I'm hoping Dvico and others implement UPnP AV as soon as possible, as it might solve all my issues.

dp70

07-22-07, 11:00 AM

I found a very compact and efficient NFS server for Windows written by a German computer science PhD: haneWIN NFS Server for Windows (http://www.hanewin.net/nfs-e.htm). There's a free 30-day trial, and a license for private use costs only $25. In this era of bloatware, I was impressed that it's only a 500KB download (including the installer). I had it up and running perfectly with the limHD200i in about 5 minutes! I was easily able to configure it to support only NFSv3 (proving the limHD supports that) and also to serve my files in read-only mode (just in case...). So far, I've never seen it consume more than 1-2% of my CPU, so it looks like it's decently-implemented. Another nice touch: it can be installed and also dynamically reconfigured without ever requiring you to reboot. Now to see if it will support files >4 GB properly...

Poorbeek

07-22-07, 11:08 AM

Hi Folks,

I am now using the LIM HD 200i for a couple of days and i am so far happy with it. The only problem i have is it is not playing HD-DVD files they are all in the evo format what do i need to do is this supported or do i have to use some kind of converting software

Jet-X

07-22-07, 11:55 AM

That is the reason I have elected not to purchase at this time.

I told Tomacro the same thing in an email.

This player is being sold at a price point where you should expect a mature product. I believe they would have been ahead of the game to release the initial units at a price of around $299 to $349 US dollars. Considering it costs an additional $75 shipping from China this is a very expensive unit..

Agreed. I've bought to many of these devices before they were mature. And mature doesn't mean supporting new features (HD DVD and Blu-Ray being new features), but supporting the bare bones essentials.

And for the price, you expect a fully working product.

Again, I applaud Tomacro for addressing these issues. But at these price points, I'm sitting it out until fully resolved. I'm a big Tvix fan having the 3/4/5000 series. But I've even held out upgrading to the 4100/5100 until I hear they truly work. I might be waiting for the 5500 series...

oldpainless68

07-22-07, 01:45 PM

gendvd

07-22-07, 11:55 PM

That is the reason I have elected not to purchase at this time.

I told Tomacro the same thing in an email.

This player is being sold at a price point where you should expect a mature product. I believe they would have been ahead of the game to release the initial units at a price of around $299 to $349 US dollars. Considering it costs an additional $75 shipping from China this is a very expensive unit.

I do believe most people buying these at this point would be glad to help beta test the unit and make suggestions and recommendations. I am just suprised people are paying the current price.

In the U.S. you can get the TVIX M4100SH for $379 plus reasonable shipping. It appears to have its faults, but overall a more mature device.

Thanks to all of you who are making or have made purchases. You will make the unit worth looking at in 6 months to a year from now.

Because now we do not have the agentsin the US. After we have agents, the price will de lowered largely. I think this can be realized in the near future.

Super

07-23-07, 12:45 AM

I have bought a limHD200i from Gendvd for about one month, it works very well and it has a perfect performance,I get lots of fun from it . I really like it very much.

Poorbeek

07-23-07, 01:20 AM

iwanrs

07-23-07, 02:47 AM

I have bought a limHD200i from Gendvd for about one month, it works very well and it has a perfect performance,I get lots of fun from it . I really like it very much.

Hi Super,

Can you describe more about "FUN" with your Tomacro?

Did you have any experience with other Mediabox/Player before this?

Thanks

dp70

07-23-07, 05:35 AM

Mark, as you have had this up and running, how about a step by step guide to get this working on the Lim?
Here you go. It was easier to just make a PDF of the steps...

oldpainless68

07-23-07, 05:51 AM

Here you go. It was easier to just make a PDF of the steps...

Mark...great work!!!!....

IT WORKS!!>....but, only if I disable windows firewall....seems to play all MKV to TS files over NFS without stuttering and the time goto function works and seem to be reading the correct file size.

Now this is going to sound like a real NOOB question - but how do I configure windows firewall for this program?....It does not seem to have an install folder per sa as the apps are installed in system32......cheers for yer help!!

PS....heres what I've entered under exports (if you have just C:\ -readonly -name:media 192.168.1.66, its seems to show the entire C drive directory)

# exports for limHD200i
C:\share\media -readonly -name:media 192.168.1.66

Any help with Windows Firewall for this proggy would be great!.....and Mark....good work!

K

oldpainless68

07-23-07, 09:03 AM

So, thanks to Mark :) ....we now have NFS file sharing on the LimHD....now it's onto testing upto what bitrate it can handle over NFS..... :D

K

oldpainless68

07-23-07, 10:10 AM

ok....1st NFS test...

1080p TS (AVC) which peaks at just over 20mbps.....no problem over NFS.... :D

K

madshi

07-23-07, 10:19 AM

ok....1st NFS test...

1080p TS (AVC) which peaks at just over 20mbps.....no problem over NFS.... :D
Thanks for testing. Now please Apocalypto or Casino Royale Blu-Rays. As far as I've heard, they have the highest h264 bitrate so far.

oldpainless68

07-23-07, 10:46 AM

Thanks for testing. Now please Apocalypto or Casino Royale Blu-Rays. As far as I've heard, they have the highest h264 bitrate so far.

I'll try and find the link....its in this thread somewhere!!...

K

dp70

07-23-07, 10:50 AM

IT WORKS!!....but, only if I disable windows firewall.
Oops, forgot about Windows Firewall (I've had it disabled for a while since I'm behind a hardware firewall and it was causing too much trouble.) I just did some tests, and it looks like what you need to do is go into the Exceptions tab for Windows Firewall and add six entries using the Add Port... button. Add these entries (name, port, type):

SunRPC Portmapper TCP, 111, TCP
SunRPC Portmapper UDP, 111, UDP
Mountd TCP, 1058, TCP
Mountd UDP, 1058, UDP
NFS TCP, 2049, TCP
NFS UDP, 2049, UDP

Seems to work OK here (with firewall enabled). Please confirm, and I'll add it to the document.

oldpainless68

07-23-07, 11:01 AM

Oops, forgot about Windows Firewall (I've had it disabled for a while since I'm behind a hardware firewall and it was causing too much trouble.) I just did some tests, and it looks like what you need to do is go into the Exceptions tab for Windows Firewall and add six entries using the Add Port... button. Add these entries (name, port, type):

SunRPC Portmapper TCP, 111, TCP
SunRPC Portmapper UDP, 111, UDP
Mountd TCP, 1058, TCP
Mountd UDP, 1058, UDP
NFS TCP, 2049, TCP
NFS UDP, 2049, UDP

Seems to work OK here (with firewall enabled). Please confirm, and I'll add it to the document.

Mark....that's done the trick...cheers!!!....when you add this to the instructions, you may want to add the share\media structure (as I mentioned above).

Once again...well done!

K

madshi

07-23-07, 11:09 AM

I'll try and find the link....its in this thread somewhere!!...
I'm not sure if the trailers have as high bitrate as the movie. Not sure what was being linked in this thread (trailer or movie extract).

dp70

07-23-07, 11:22 AM

Kevin, please try some 4+ GB files over NFS while you're at it today...

dj7675

07-23-07, 01:30 PM

Trying too find a player that will play h264 files recorded from satellite such as dish. I will be getting a nextcomwireless modified dish receiver that records dish. Some files are mpeg2 and some are mpeg4. The tvix 4100 seems to play some but not all of these files. Anyone using it for playback of these files yet? If not, nextcom has some sample sd files to test on their website...

http://www.nextcomwireless.com/r5000/samples.htm#MPEG-4%20Comparison

I don't have a link to any 1080i or 720p hd mpeg4 samples from dish but I bet we can find some...

Darin

oldpainless68

07-23-07, 02:42 PM

Kevin, please try some 4+ GB files over NFS while you're at it today...

Mark...for me over 4gig is fine

K

Wizziwig

07-23-07, 04:22 PM

ok....1st NFS test...

1080p TS (AVC) which peaks at just over 20mbps.....no problem over NFS.... :D

K

If you're trying to determine maximum NFS bitrate, you really should use constant-bitrate files. Otherwise the peak rates don't tell you much since they could be short enough to play entirely from buffered data, even if network can't handle those speeds for longer periods. Try the 48 Mbps CBR clip I posted a few pages back. If it fails, I can probably make you guys some smaller versions: 40 CBR, 36 CBR, etc. until we determine the max it can handle over NFS. I would be happy if it could handle ~30 CBR. Based on comments in the Tvix thread, it seems to only handle up to ~20 over NFS.

dobeman

07-23-07, 06:00 PM

If you're trying to determine maximum NFS bitrate, you really should use constant-bitrate files. Otherwise the peak rates don't tell you much since they could be short enough to play entirely from buffered data, even if network can't handle those speeds for longer periods. Try the 48 Mbps CBR clip I posted a few pages back. If it fails, I can probably make you guys some smaller versions: 40 CBR, 36 CBR, etc. until we determine the max it can handle over NFS. I would be happy if it could handle ~30 CBR. Based on comments in the Tvix thread, it seems to only handle up to ~20 over NFS.

I have a Tvix 4100 and it can handle at least 25mbps over NFS LAN. I have streamed both my hi def canon HV20 clips that play at 25mbps and have also streamed many blu ray rips that range anywhere from 20-30 mbps, and sometimes they peak even higher than that, unfortunately the tvix only plays mpeg2 blu ray rips. I just wish this tomacro unit wasn't so expensive.

Abbas

07-23-07, 06:21 PM

If I were to save a MP4 file with H264, what is the best bit rate to use to get the best quality picture for 1920x1080p? I am trying to save my HDV home movies for viewing on the Lim HD.

Also anyone know if there are plans for creating a Mac driver? My windows recognizes the unit just fine but the Mac does even recognize the unit has a hard drive.

conker2007

07-23-07, 11:12 PM

If I were to save a MP4 file with H264, what is the best bit rate to use to get the best quality picture for 1920x1080p? I am trying to save my HDV home movies for viewing on the Lim HD.

If your HDV home movies wrapped in MTS container, you need to modify the suffix MTS to M2TS.

Super

07-24-07, 12:23 AM

Hi Super,

Can you describe more about "FUN" with your Tomacro?

Did you have any experience with other Mediabox/Player before this?

Thanks
I have ever used HEOIS before Lim. By comparation, LimHD200i is much better. firstly I like its beautiful appearence, so sexy, you know !And it also can play H264,HDVD,VC1,Blue Ray... wonderfully. best quality picture I've ever seen.Don't you think so? Have you already kept one ?

oldpainless68

07-24-07, 02:28 AM

If you're trying to determine maximum NFS bitrate, you really should use constant-bitrate files. Otherwise the peak rates don't tell you much since they could be short enough to play entirely from buffered data, even if network can't handle those speeds for longer periods. Try the 48 Mbps CBR clip I posted a few pages back. If it fails, I can probably make you guys some smaller versions: 40 CBR, 36 CBR, etc. until we determine the max it can handle over NFS. I would be happy if it could handle ~30 CBR. Based on comments in the Tvix thread, it seems to only handle up to ~20 over NFS.

Wizziwig....could you post the link again please.....this thread is starting to get a little large!!....lol

K

iwanrs

07-24-07, 03:29 AM

I have ever used HEOIS before Lim. By comparation, LimHD200i is much better. firstly I like its beautiful appearence, so sexy, you know !And it also can play H264,HDVD,VC1,Blue Ray... wonderfully. best quality picture I've ever seen.Don't you think so? Have you already kept one ?

I don't have Lim yet, still looking and waiting for the right stuff.
I have now Pixelmagic Mediabox MB200, which sitting beside my HTPC all the time for about one year.
The main weakness of this MB200: It can not play broken .ts files smoothly, there are always 2 second black out when it jump between files!

Btw, how do you play Blu-ray and HD-DVD via LimHD200i? I don't understand, can you explain this to me?

THANKS

oldpainless68

07-24-07, 03:58 AM

I don't have Lim yet, still looking and waiting for the right stuff.
I have now Pixelmagic Mediabox MB200, which sitting beside my HTPC all the time for about one year.
The main weakness of this MB200: It can not play broken .ts files smoothly, there are always 2 second black out when it jump between files!

Btw, how do you play Blu-ray and HD-DVD via LimHD200i? I don't understand, can you explain this to me?

THANKS

Re your TS files, you could just TS splitter/joiner and play just one file!....re BD/HD-DVD - I assume you just rip & play...

K

TheBrew

07-24-07, 04:11 AM

Auch..

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=41180

I hope it's easy for Tomacro to make the lim eat SATA drives instead of PATA. If not, I think that'll be a bad drawback.

oldpainless68

07-24-07, 04:17 AM

Auch..

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=41180

I hope it's easy for Tomacro to make the lim eat SATA drives instead of PATA. If not, I think that'll be a bad drawback.

Things are never as gloomy as that!....

http://www.granitedigital.com/catalog/pg52_satabridgeboards.htm

and that was just the 1st one I clicked on!

K

oldpainless68

07-24-07, 04:21 AM

scrap my last post.....£1.99 on ebay - sata to ide or ide to sata...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/IDE-To-SATA-or-SATA-To-IDE-Converter-2-Way-Adapter-UK_W0QQitemZ290142248915QQihZ019QQcategoryZ41994QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

There's a solution for most things!

Also, only the internal drive in the Lim is IDE....all your usb drives can be sata in a usb HD caddie....your network drives can be sata....etc etc etc...so...bit of a non-news story really.......

K

dp70

07-24-07, 04:55 AM

So in the current limHD firmware 1.60 Beta 070710, DVD IFO/VOB and ISO playback are still not implemented, but you can play individual VOB files. I tried playing some deinterlacing tests with the limHD200i in 480p mode (since I don't have a 1080p display yet).

The Sigma EM8623 is supposed to include motion-adaptive deinterlacing (similar to Sage/Faroudja DCDi). However, this feature doesn't seem to be enabled on the limHD200i. I would expect it to be enabled for all progressive output modes when playing interlaced content.

Here's a ZIP file of the deinterlacing tests I tried. (http://192.67.78.42/tmp/deinterlacing_test_dvd.zip)

The largest VOB file (VTS_04_1.VOB) is the famous waving flag test that was popular for demos a few years ago. Players that implement motion-adaptive deinterlacing show a huge improvement when playing this file. Currently, the limHD's 480p playback of this clip looks much worse than the 480p output of my 5-year-old Skyworth 1050P player with DCDi. I notified Fan of this, and apparently the engineers are looking at the problem now. It ought to be an easy fix.

Maybe someone with a Tvix 4100SH (dobeman?) could try this clip and see how it looks on that player?

TheBrew

07-24-07, 07:23 AM

Things are never as gloomy as that!....

http://www.granitedigital.com/catalog/pg52_satabridgeboards.htm

and that was just the 1st one I clicked on!

K

Hey cool - I never saw the "slim" adapter before now :)

--
whoop, edit: that slim one was PATA->SATA. But OK, the other way doesn't look that big either. Would it fit in the lim?
--

Cheers

Super

07-25-07, 12:21 AM

I don't have Lim yet, still looking and waiting for the right stuff.
I have now Pixelmagic Mediabox MB200, which sitting beside my HTPC all the time for about one year.
The main weakness of this MB200: It can not play broken .ts files smoothly, there are always 2 second black out when it jump between files!

Btw, how do you play Blu-ray and HD-DVD via LimHD200i? I don't understand, can you explain this to me?

THANKS
Firstly remux the original files of Blu ray or HD DVD then copy them into the Hard disk ,then play them

manusia

07-25-07, 01:42 AM

Hi, has I bought LimHD200i I will want to read my films Blu-ray and hd-dvd could you explain me how remuxe to be able to view them with Lim. Thank you for your assistance

oldpainless68

07-25-07, 07:22 AM

dp70

07-25-07, 10:30 AM

oldpainless68

07-25-07, 10:39 AM

If the enhanced deinterlacing is not enabled for 480p and 720p, it's probably not enabled for 1080p either. That means that once Tomacro gets this turned on, 1080i files should look EVEN BETTER THAN THEY DO NOW played in 1080p mode!

Just a quick question - why would you want deinterlacing for a progressive source? I get what you say for Interlaced sources, but I'm struggling to understand the importance for progressive files......

Anyhows, wonder if they'll get this in the next firmware release...it's on it's way (very soon).... :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :D

K

Abbas

07-25-07, 11:18 AM

I got my unit connected today for the first time to my TV. The unit works perfectly but the remote is DEAD. I can't get the remote to work at all. I have emailed Jackie about replacing it. Without the remote, it makes hard to navigate thru everything.

One question that I have is that I noticed the audio did not work over HDMI. Is there anyway to get the audio to work thru the HDMI port?

conker2007

07-25-07, 11:31 AM

One question that I have is that I noticed the audio did not work over HDMI. Is there anyway to get the audio to work thru the HDMI port?

From TOMACRO Web site

limHD200i Beta Firmware (Version: Build1.60beta - 070710)
　　
The Version: Build1.60beta - 070710 modified some audio output mode setting:

Case1 - using decoder of AV receiver(Amp.):

1) play video files with DTS or AC3(DD5.1) audio tracks, use 'Encoded Digital' + '5.1 channel' setting;

2) play video files with other audio tracks, use 'DPCM'+'5.1 channel' setting.

Case2 - using HDMI embeded audio or analog output(R+L):
use 'DPCM'+'2 channel' setting.

dp70

07-25-07, 12:05 PM

Just a quick question - why would you want deinterlacing for a progressive source? I get what you say for Interlaced sources, but I'm struggling to understand the importance for progressive files...

I wasn't saying it should be enabled for progressive files (I agree that it shouldn't be), rather it should be enabled for interlaced files when the output mode is progressive. (Possibly also if interlaced files are scaled for output, regardless of whether the output mode is progressive or interlaced.) Without developer-level documentation on the EM8623L, I'm not sure which paths are possible. I'm working on getting those docs through various sources...

oldpainless68

07-25-07, 01:24 PM

I wasn't saying it should be enabled for progressive files (I agree that it shouldn't be), rather it should be enabled for interlaced files when the output mode is progressive. (Possibly also if interlaced files are scaled for output, regardless of whether the output mode is progressive or interlaced.) Without developer-level documentation on the EM8623L, I'm not sure which paths are possible. I'm working on getting those docs through various sources...

Ok Mark...so it's just interlaced.....cool anyway....

K

Poorbeek

07-25-07, 02:19 PM

As posted earlier i am using the Lim HD200I with succes the only problem i have is that it does not play my ripped HD-DVD which are in an EVO format.

The problem is i am already checking everything but can not find a solution to get them to work on the Lim.

All of the other formats work fine and give me an :) on my face.

oldpainless68

07-25-07, 04:07 PM

Possibly also if interlaced files are scaled for output, regardless of whether the output mode is progressive or interlaced

You were making sense....but then you said that.....oh well....must just be me!...lol

K

dp70

07-25-07, 04:54 PM

Scaling interlaced video usually looks better if the source is deinterlaced before scaling, though the result depends a lot on the source and destination resolutions, frame rates, etc...

oldpainless68

07-26-07, 02:49 AM

Scaling interlaced video usually looks better if the source is deinterlaced before scaling, though the result depends a lot on the source and destination resolutions, frame rates, etc...

Ok...I understand...

K

Bob Gardner

07-26-07, 11:41 AM

Firstly remux the original files of Blu ray or HD DVD then copy them into the Hard disk ,then play them

Anyone know what Super is talking about here? "Remux the original files"?

I thought part of the reason the studios were moving to BluRay (not sure about HD DVD) was that the video stream is dynamically encrypted while being streamed off the media (the disk). Then, HDMI (hardware) / HDCP (firmware, software codec) continues to keep the stream encrypted while it travels through the video path to the display unit (monitor / TV, whatever).

That's my understanding. Please correct me if I'm mistaken. So, talk about "remuxing" a video stream makes little sense to me...

I apologize for being off-topic, but I do not see how the Lim could perform this.

oldpainless68

07-26-07, 11:43 AM

Anyone know what Super is talking about here? "Remux the original files"?

I thought part of the reason the studios were moving to BluRay (not sure about HD DVD) was that the video stream is dynamically encrypted while being streamed off the media (the disk). Then, HDMI (hardware) / HDCP (firmware, software codec) continues to keep the stream encrypted while it travels through the video path to the display unit (monitor / TV, whatever).

That's my understanding. Please correct me if I'm mistaken. So, talk about "remuxing" a video stream makes little sense to me...

I apologize for being off-topic, but I do not see how the Lim could perform this.

Take a tour around www.videohelp.com both bluray and hd-dvd disks can be ripped to the hard drive...

K

RHISC-NL

07-26-07, 03:52 PM

First limHD200i shipment landed (with DHL) at our office in the Netherlands, we will offcourse test our new toy for boys :)

Especially HD content (1080p etc), shares and the difference with our TViX4100 and 5100SH models.
Model with 320GB has a lot of movie samples onboard (pre loaded). First impression is great Gran Tourismo 3 HD sample is very good. ...

gendvd

07-26-07, 07:03 PM

From TOMACRO Web site

limHD200i Beta Firmware (Version: Build1.60beta - 070710)
　　
The Version: Build1.60beta - 070710 modified some audio output mode setting:

Case1 - using decoder of AV receiver(Amp.):

1) play video files with DTS or AC3(DD5.1) audio tracks, use 'Encoded Digital' + '5.1 channel' setting;

2) play video files with other audio tracks, use 'DPCM'+'5.1 channel' setting.

Case2 - using HDMI embeded audio or analog output(R+L):
use 'DPCM'+'2 channel' setting.

Thank you a lot, Conker2007. Your professional answers is very useful for the all of our customers.

iwanrs

07-26-07, 09:12 PM

Has this LimHD200i Dolby-EX and DTS-ES surround mode/feature ?

dp70

07-26-07, 10:53 PM

It will pass through the encoded bitstream over the digital outputs. Not sure what happens when it downmixes to two channels...

iwanrs

07-27-07, 12:09 AM

oldpainless68

07-27-07, 02:41 AM

After few weeks of discussions, pro-cons and latest firmware upgrade, may I ask this question again:

What is the better choice at this time, Tomacro LimHD200i or TVIX M5100SH ?

And why ?

Or wait for another NEW model until end of this year?

THANKS

Best is a very subjective word...it's all down to what you want....

I think the best way to look at it would be a Hi-Def Media player VS a Hard Disk Media Steamer.

From what I have read, the Tvix has more mature firmware and more features, but the LimHD has better picture quality from HD source and supports higher bitrate files etc. And, thanks to Mark, NFS is working like a charm.

I have no hesitation is recommending the LimHD, if bitrate and picture quality are at the top of your list....also, because Tomacro are very good at listening to feedback, things change very quickly...keep an eye on this thread for the next few days.....

K

gendvd

07-27-07, 05:40 AM

Has this LimHD200i Dolby-EX and DTS-ES surround mode/feature ?
Yes, the lim can support Dolby-EX and DTS-ES surround mode/feature.

gendvd

07-27-07, 05:45 AM

gendvd

07-27-07, 05:47 AM

Super

07-27-07, 05:52 AM

Hi, has I bought LimHD200i I will want to read my films Blu-ray and hd-dvd could you explain me how remuxe to be able to view them with Lim. Thank you for your assistance
Hello!
:)

Super

07-27-07, 05:59 AM

[QUOTE=manusia]Hi, has I bought LimHD200i I will want to read my films Blu-ray and hd-dvd could you explain me how remuxe to be able to view them with Lim. Thank you for your assistance[/QUOT
I apologize not reply to you immediately. I do not mean I remux the files by myself.
I bought the DVDs from gendvd. which have already been remuxed. as I know the Lim can not support the original bluray or HD-dvd

oldpainless68

07-27-07, 06:48 AM

For those that want to know....I offer this link purely for eductional purposes (rip bluray and HD-DVD to your hard drive)

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/DVDFab_Decrypter

K

oldpainless68

07-27-07, 07:15 AM

Just an update on NFS streaming:

H.264 playback over NFS - No problems!!... :) :cool:

Still trying to find the maximum bitrate for playback over NFS....when I find out...I'll let you guys know.

K

madshi

07-27-07, 07:32 AM

I've heard the "Transporter 2" trailer should be a good h264 test. 40Mbit average with peaks up to >50Mbit. Do you have access to that trailer?

oldpainless68

07-27-07, 07:41 AM

I've heard the "Transporter 2" trailer should be a good h264 test. 40Mbit average with peaks up to >50Mbit. Do you have access to that trailer?

Nope...can you post a link?

K

Johnny

07-27-07, 12:13 PM

Anyone using this unit with an Infrant Readynas? If so, how is the performance using nfs?

HD-Adrian

07-27-07, 01:55 PM

This sounds so cool - limHD200i can play all blu-ray and HD DVD files copied to its HD using the DVDFab_Decrypter. I have been paying attention to the development of this player and the latest i heard Tomacro is about to release its newest software update capable of playing .mkv next week. Will report back more when i get my hand on this latest unit next week.

HD-Adrian

07-27-07, 02:08 PM

Copying bluray and hddvd files to Limhd200i hard drive with the DVDFab_Decrypter tool. This just super! limhd200i can play all the latest releases in addition to what it can do. Do I read it right?

oldpainless68

07-27-07, 03:15 PM

Copying bluray and hddvd files to Limhd200i hard drive with the DVDFab_Decrypter tool. This just super! limhd200i can play all the latest releases in addition to what it can do. Do I read it right?

Seems like a lot of fuss going on here....I'll be testing the new beta over the weekend....so I'll let you lot know then!.......

K

Poorbeek

07-28-07, 05:12 AM

At present Lim still does not support EVO format

Do you think Tomacro is busy developing EVO support on the Lim.

HD-Adrian

07-28-07, 10:35 AM

oldpainless68

07-28-07, 10:40 AM

Do you think Tomacro is busy developing EVO support on the Lim.

It's on the radar....

K

oldpainless68

07-28-07, 10:41 AM

I heard Limhd's next firmware expected next week is to enable DVD IFO/VOB and ISO playback in addition to support .MKV x264 file. I also understand the unit has a small memory cache and often causing long pause when pressing remote a few times. In short, Lim has quite a few refinement ahead but the main features are in place and the company stays responsive to improvement suggestions.

Where are you getting this from?....I'm very close to Tomacro - what's your source?

K

oldpainless68

07-28-07, 10:43 AM

Just to let the board know....I'll have the next cut of firmware in my grubby mits in the next 24 hours......full disclosure and testing then.... :cool: :cool: :cool: :D

K

HD-Adrian

07-28-07, 11:37 AM

Just to let the board know....I'll have the next cut of firmware in my grubby mits in the next 24 hours......full disclosure and testing then.... :cool: :cool: :cool: :D

K

good for u and great for all of us participating in this board.

i have been paying attention to the development and just made my decision to order a unit last Friday since it has the last main feature (supporting .mkv) that i m looking for. My source: I was assured by Tomacro's dealer in Beijing that he would receive the latest batch next week containing the new firmware supporting .mkv and dvd playback.

Don't know if u have the same version (definitely not the 7/10/07 beta) but the timing of next 24 hrs looks right. i expect to receive the unit either next weekend or early the following wk as it takes a few days even for express mail.

oldpainless68

07-28-07, 04:44 PM

good for u and great for all of us participating in this board.

i have been paying attention to the development and just made my decision to order a unit last Friday since it has the last main feature (supporting .mkv) that i m looking for. My source: I was assured by Tomacro's dealer in Beijing that he would receive the latest batch next week containing the new firmware supporting .mkv and dvd playback.

Don't know if u have the same version (definitely not the 7/10/07 beta) but the timing of next 24 hrs looks right. i expect to receive the unit either next weekend or early the following wk as it takes a few days even for express mail.

You know what...I've just decided....you dont know as much as you think you do....

Anyways....

K

oldpainless68

07-28-07, 04:46 PM

Full test's of the new firmware cut in the next 20 or so hours folks....

K

gendvd

07-28-07, 09:35 PM

Full test's of the new firmware cut in the next 20 or so hours folks....

K

Hello, Tomacro's new firmware will be available in the end of this month. please let us waiting for its supper functions. :) :D :cool:

dp70

07-28-07, 10:15 PM

Yum, can't wait! :)

oldpainless68

07-29-07, 02:07 AM

Jackie

Did you get the documentation I sent you?

Kevin

Poorbeek

07-29-07, 06:54 AM

Can you guys give a small tip of what to expect...... :):)

gendvd

07-29-07, 08:27 AM

Jackie

Did you get the documentation I sent you?

Kevin
Yes ,I do. Thank you very much for your valuable documentation. Thank you for all your helps.

oldpainless68

07-29-07, 01:03 PM

Can you guys give a small tip of what to expect...... :):)

Not just yet...but soon...

K

oldpainless68

07-30-07, 02:17 AM

Should be here soooooooonnnnn.....lol

K

oldpainless68

07-31-07, 01:46 AM

Hopefully today folks...

K

LianLi

07-31-07, 12:19 PM

today? :O

tf4

07-31-07, 12:48 PM

Can someone post a link to this product where I can purchase it? I want to replace my old Avelinlplayer 2 ;)

digitalkid2

07-31-07, 01:39 PM

Can someone post a link to this product where I can purchase it? I want to replace my old Avelinlplayer 2 ;)
If your LP2 works and you are interested in selling it please PM me. IMHO the limHD has potential but is not where the LP2 is yet. It beats the LP2 in the area of h264 but I do not want or need that so....I am in the market for another LP2.

Super

08-01-07, 12:08 AM

Can someone post a link to this product where I can purchase it? I want to replace my old Avelinlplayer 2 ;)
I bought it from www.gendvd.com ,I find it good to deal with Jackie, good service.

Poorbeek

08-01-07, 02:19 AM

It is AUGUST now....... Update Update Time.......

I am very curious what to expect from the update....

oldpainless68

08-01-07, 02:29 AM

It is AUGUST now....... Update Update Time.......

I am very curious what to expect from the update....

I'm waiting to get the new cut to test....if all goes to plan...I think people will be VERY happy!!

K

cHarOn99

08-01-07, 05:57 AM

mkv will be in the next firmware we will see what the hardware can make about mkv.

cHarOn

oldpainless68

08-01-07, 11:16 AM

Re the new firmware...I think I may have held it up by a few days due to some documentation I sent Jackie/Fan....the release will be all the better for the additional few days of tweaking!...

K

lanstrom

08-02-07, 09:57 AM

Everyones catching a few zzzzzz's whilst waitin for it ! :)

oldpainless68

08-02-07, 10:05 AM

oldpainless68

08-03-07, 02:15 AM

Ok...just had word...I should be getting the new firmware for testing over the weekend.... :) :) :cool: :cool: :cool: :D ;)

K

Ventura1977

08-03-07, 02:24 AM

I could bet a couple of bucks that there is no MKV support at all. ;)

oldpainless68

08-03-07, 02:36 AM

I could bet a couple of bucks that there is no MKV support at all. ;)

Did I say there was going to be MKV support?....having said that....just wait!! :cool:

K

oldpainless68

08-03-07, 11:46 AM

Ok you lot....got the new cut...and I can confirm MKV and DVD ifo support.

Will report back with test results.

Jackie/Fan.....send my thanks to the team!

K

hdtvplayer

08-03-07, 12:20 PM

Ok you lot....got the new cut...and I can confirm MKV and DVD ifo support.

Will report back with test results.

Jackie/Fan.....send my thanks to the team!

K

Yes, Tomacro released a beta firmware with MKV and DVD ifo support.
Build 1.60beta2-070803.

Translated from Tomacro's web site:

LimHD200i MKV and DVD Navigation Firmware

(Version: Build 1.60beta2-070803 )

Changes in this version:

1. Support MKV video file playback

2. DVD disc navigation and playback
Plug-in USB DVD drive, put in DVD disc, under LimHD200i navigation menu, select USB/Video-TS/xxx.IFO and play

hdtvplayer_info/content/view/6/2/

madshi

08-03-07, 12:27 PM

That sounds very good! @oldpainless68, please let me know whether my MKV test clips work. Thanks! :)

oldpainless68

08-03-07, 04:28 PM

OK...off to bed...but:

DVD-ifo....works perfect!

MKV 720p....plays...nice image...nice sound.....but.....tune in tomorrow for the rest!

K

Sepen

08-03-07, 04:55 PM

OK...off to bed...but:

DVD-ifo....works perfect!

MKV 720p....plays...nice image...nice sound.....but.....tune in tomorrow for the rest!

K

Hmm, this might have tipped the scales for me.....where to buy? :)

Johnny

08-03-07, 05:01 PM

OK...off to bed...but:

DVD-ifo....works perfect!

MKV 720p....plays...nice image...nice sound.....but.....tune in tomorrow for the rest!

K

Can it read DVD IFO off a hard drive or only from a DVD drive connected via USB? No DVD ISO support yet, right?

qnd0121

08-03-07, 11:53 PM

Hi, how does its picture and sound quality compare to hd-dvd player such as hd-a2 supposed that the conversion from hd/bd to h.264 produces high quality files? Thanks.

oldpainless68

08-04-07, 02:17 AM

Can it read DVD IFO off a hard drive or only from a DVD drive connected via USB? No DVD ISO support yet, right?

DVD IFO over NFS, Hard Drive, USB Hard Drive or USB DVD drive

K

oldpainless68

08-04-07, 02:33 AM

Right, testing the latest beta - Tomacro are soooooo close!!

As I have said, DVD IFO works pefect!...nice

MKV , upto high profile 5.1 :D - slight issue with reading the timestamp, which causes A/V sync issues (tested with H.264 AC3 & DTS, and Mpeg2 AC3 & DTS) - this should be a minor firmware tweak.

WMV-HD - WMA ....Tomacro have added the WMA to DD5.1 conversion!!...sweet!...however, sometimes it loses the audio if you ff/rr - again, should be a minor firmware tweak.....

So, I would expect these tweaks to happen fairly quickly........well done to the Tomacro team.....and who said the Lim would never support MKV?....lol... :D

K

Jackie - you have mail! :cool:

oldpainless68

08-04-07, 02:42 AM

Hi, how does its picture and sound quality compare to hd-dvd player such as hd-a2 supposed that the conversion from hd/bd to h.264 produces high quality files? Thanks.

Hi

I can't imagine the picture quality on the hd-a2 being any better than the Lim...

and yes to hd/bd>H.264 :D .....to be honest, with some of the MKV's, I can't tell the difference....

K

oldpainless68

08-04-07, 02:43 AM

That sounds very good! @oldpainless68, please let me know whether my MKV test clips work. Thanks! :)

Madshi...mpeg2 - no problem, the others, audio no video...strange...

K

madshi

08-04-07, 03:15 AM

Madshi...mpeg2 - no problem, the others, audio no video...strange...
Could you please forward the link to the samples to Tomacro? Please via email, please don't post the link on a forum. Thanks!

oldpainless68

08-04-07, 03:24 AM

Could you please forward the link to the samples to Tomacro? Please via email, please don't post the link on a forum. Thanks!

Will do...

K

zAndy12

08-04-07, 05:23 AM

Where's the best (cheapest) place to order this from for delivery to the UK?

Cheers
Andy

Poorbeek

08-04-07, 05:32 AM

If MKv support is working fine and we get the price we want then you can order it at www.pacificaudio.nl

Which is situated in the netherlands.

We are now just like some others testing it fully and already discussed a BeNeLux (belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg) distribution with Tomacro.

oldpainless68

08-04-07, 06:48 AM

Sepen

08-04-07, 09:34 AM

Where to order if you are in the States?

Field

08-04-07, 09:51 AM

Old, I just spent about 2 hours reading through all your posts from when you first ordered your Lim and waited about 20 days for it to arrive:). Anyways, I got tired of reading at about pg 15 in this thread and decided to skip to yesterdays and todays post. I'm glad to see that you still have yours and I presume you still love it. Considering that alone, I may get one for myself as I'm not a video guru on all those formats you guys keep talking about. So I'm sure it will play anything I throw at it. Plus, the thing looks freakin' sweet!

What I typically do is rip a DVD, watch it in it's uncompressed format for maximum picture quality and I don't have to wait to encode, and then delete the files when done (since I usually watch it one time only, unless it's a GREAT movie then I just keep it on my server). You guys have been talking a lot about H.264, MKV formats, etc... none of which I'm familiar with.
I believe the answer to my question is Yes from what I've gathered throughout this thread, but I wanted to cut-to-the-chase and ask if I can simply stream my uncompressed DVD rips off my networked server with the Lim without any issues?

Thanks for your time.
Jason

oldpainless68

08-04-07, 10:18 AM