View Full Version : Pioneer Elite PRO-940HD, should I Go For It?
WestCoastD 06-02-07, 12:59 AM I'm very close to pulling the trigger on this TV. It does 1080p, has dual (separate) tuners, and more. The prices I've seen lately are pretty good (ie. $2K and below).
Are there any other models (either Pioneer Elite or other brands) I should be considering beyond this unit, even LCD's, at the same cost?
I'm essentially looking for a solid 42 inch flat-screen HDTV that has good 1080p performance, dual-tuners, etc.,..
That's one of the best, if not the best, 42"ers out there right now.
BTW, when you say does 1080p, you mean you can input 1080p but it will display at 768p - you realize this right?
dssturbo1 06-02-07, 04:08 AM Roman at Invision has the new Pioneer 4280 with the deeper blacks and higher contrast it will have better picture quality than the 940HD and it is in stock NOW.
it will accept the 1080p input but is still a 768p display.
you would need to sit at a max of 5.5' to get full 1080i/p resolution.
panasonic will have the th42pz700u a true 1080p 42" plasma out soon, check Cleveland Plasma they are taking preorders for it.
WestCoastD 06-02-07, 04:16 AM when you say does 1080p, you mean you can input 1080p but it will display at 768p - you realize this right?Thanks for all your input.
I'm still becoming versed with all these related concepts, it's some what confusing. So what does this mean if I play an HD-DVD (1080p) machine through a display as such?
Would it be better to have an LCD that display's at 1080p?
dssturbo1 06-02-07, 04:23 AM it will take it and process it and display it at 768p. hd dvd and bluray on a good 42" display look awesome.
Even witth the Pro940 converting the 1080p signal, it'll look amazing. I have a ProFHD1 mounted directly above a Pro1140HD at work. The ProFHD1 has Blue Ray feed from a BDP-HD1 going to it. Just for the heck of it, on a couple of occassions, i connected the HDMI cable to the Pro1140.. Don't get me wrong, you can tell if you look close.....still amazing.
KapoostaKid 06-02-07, 08:27 AM Thanks for all your input.
I'm still becoming versed with all these related concepts, it's some what confusing. So what does this mean if I play an HD-DVD (1080p) machine through a display as such?
Would it be better to have an LCD that display's at 1080p?
My 940 will show a stunning 1080p/24 from the ps3 BD, but not as of yet from my Toshiba X2. 1080i everything else. I'm about 6.5 ft from the display. Love the pioneer.
WestCoastD 06-02-07, 02:44 PM it will take it and process it and display it at 768p. hd dvd and bluray on a good 42" display look awesome.thanks, I see.
Would a good 1080p LCD display look as good or better?
scottsol 06-02-07, 07:06 PM I think almost everyone on this forum would prefer the the Pioneer plasma to any LCD.
WestCoastD 06-02-07, 08:12 PM I think almost everyone on this forum would prefer the the Pioneer plasma to any LCD.interesting, even an LCD that has native 1080p resolution capability?
dssturbo1 06-03-07, 01:53 AM in regular every day viewing experiences other factors like color accuracy/reproduction, black levels, contrast are more important and effect the picture quality much more than the difference in 720p versus 1080i/p. and as said you have to sit at a MAXIMUM of 5.5 feet to get the full resolution of 1080i/p on a 42" display. will you be sitting that close to it to even benefit from the 1080i/p resolution???
WestCoastD 06-03-07, 03:52 AM will you be sitting that close to it to even benefit from the 1080i/p resolution?no. My room set-up/seating-position is set at approx. 8ft. to 9ft. viewing-distance.
Actually, currently, I've been using an HP LC2640N, 26 inch LCD TV, it has very good picture quality. Beautiful color. 1080i (digital-cable broadcasts) is very impressive.
However, I'm ready to upgrade to something new and bigger-scale. I want to make sure I have something that will work nice with BluRay/HD-DVD format, as this is the immediate future.
Also, I have an excellent audio set-up
Appreciate your input!
WestCoastD 06-03-07, 05:53 PM beautiful day outside today!
brunotheboxer 06-03-07, 06:22 PM I'm very close to pulling the trigger on this TV. It does 1080p, has dual (separate) tuners, and more. The prices I've seen lately are pretty good (ie. $2K and below).
Are there any other models (either Pioneer Elite or other brands) I should be considering beyond this unit, even LCD's, at the same cost?
I'm essentially looking for a solid 42 inch flat-screen HDTV that has good 1080p performance, dual-tuners, etc.,..
FWIW,I have the PRO-940HD and its a fantastic tv. The prices are VERY good right now but as far as what other models you should consider, it really depends what you are going to use it for. Are you into games?
WestCoastD 06-03-07, 07:12 PM I have the PRO-940HD and its a fantastic tv
I definitely believe it from what I've read so far.
it really depends what you are going to use it for. Are you into games?not necessarily, however, I plan to get a PS3 in the near future.
The PRO-940HD would be used as my main TV- for watching DVD-Movies and digital-cable broadcasts. I'm most concerned that it would serve well for Blu-Ray/HD-DVD sources. If not I would consider an LCD that does native 1080p resolution (if it's better).
Appreciate your input.
brunotheboxer 06-03-07, 07:29 PM The PRO-940HD would be used as my main TV- for watching DVD-Movies and digital-cable broadcasts. I'm most concerned that it would serve well for Blu-Ray/HD-DVD sources. If not I would consider an LCD that does native 1080p resolution (if it's better).
Appreciate your input.
I would buy the 940 HD and an LCD that you like the picture on and bring them both home. Then put them side by side and feed them the Blu-Ray and see what YOU like best. Just make sure that where ever you buy from gives you at least 30 days to try.
WestCoastD 06-03-07, 07:36 PM buy the 940 HD and an LCD. Then put them side by side and feed them the Blu-Ray and see what YOU like best.hmmm, interesting idea. I may consider doing that, thanks!
scottsol 06-04-07, 11:48 AM As far as I'm concerned, buying two sets knowing you are going to bring at least one back is taking unfair advantage of the reseller.
How is that? Most return policies are built on satisfaction guaranteed. Either I'd buy two so I could try them out or buy NONE from a seller who wouldn't agree this was a good strategy. I'd bet most retailers would rather I buy two and bring one back than buy nothing at all!
brunotheboxer 06-04-07, 01:43 PM As far as I'm concerned, buying two sets knowing you are going to bring at least one back is taking unfair advantage of the reseller.
then dont do it.
scottsol 06-04-07, 02:01 PM The intent of return privileges is to enable customers who are unhappy with their purchases to avoid having to keep them, not to do product comparisons. If enough people abuse this privilege as you suggest then eventually that privilege will be amended or removed. See Costco as an example.
The intent of return privileges is to enable customers who are unhappy with their purchases to avoid having to keep them, not to do product comparisons. If enough people abuse this privilege as you suggest then eventually that privilege will be amended or removed. See Costco as an example.That's right, buy two and return the one you are not happy with. You HAVE to get a tv home and set it up to see how it really performs in your setting. No way around that - I have yet to find a store that looks like my living room.
What would be the difference if I bought one tv, brought it home, was not happy with it and returned it for another?? Then I get that tv home and figure out, well heck, I like the first one better! Only thing I can think of is inconvenience.
As for Costco - that's not even a good example. They didn't shut that down because people would buy two tvs and return one within 30 days.....people were buying one set and returning it a year or several years later.
I'm done talking about this since this does the OP no good.
scottsol 06-04-07, 02:45 PM T
What would be the difference if I bought one tv, brought it home, was not happy with it and returned it for another?? Then I get that tv home and figure out, well heck, I like the first one better! Only thing I can think of is inconvenience.
In the above case you are buying something with the intent of keeping it, even though you may end up returning it. In the original "buy two keep one" scenerio you are are making a purchase that you have absolutely no intention of keeping.
WestCoastD 06-04-07, 04:16 PM As far as my case goes here I would be happy if I could compare, both, the Pioneer Elite PRO-940HD and a good (1080p) LCD TV, right next to each other in the store. However it can be difficult to do, many times the TV's are (permanently) positioned adjacent to each other, but not necessarily right next to each other. Also, they're too big to easily re-position.
Last night I was at BestBuy/Magnolia, they had a few (maybe three) of the PRO-940HD models positioned in different locations, surprisingly. It is definitely a very nice TV, beautiful picture (color is exceptionally good). They also had another (new) Pioneer Elite model plasma (don't know model no.), but it was priced at like $5900.00, it is a full 1080p model, beautiful picture (probably better than PRO-940HD, but priced way out of my range).
Also, noticed a few other 1080p LCD models (for example a Sony KDL-40V2500) that looked very nice. However, could'nt get a good enough comparison as they were not placed close enough to each other. But I do like this Sony, and it's priced very well (below $2K).
Moreover, I still like the combination of features on the Pioneer Elite PRO-940HD (especially for the price)- ie. dual tuners, etc.,...
Was probably the FHD-1 you saw. If so, at that price I'd definitely stay away and wait for the new Pios.
WestCoastD 06-05-07, 06:39 PM Was probably the FHD-1 you saw. If so, at that price I'd definitely stay away and wait for the new Pios.yeah, could have been. Nice picture, but way over-priced if you ask me.
When are the new Pioneer Elites due out? Are these intended to replace modesl such as the PRO-940HD?
Macfan424 06-05-07, 07:55 PM ...When are the new Pioneer Elites due out? Are these intended to replace modesl such as the PRO-940HD? They are supposed to arrive in September, possibly a little earlier. They are intended to replace the PRO-940HD series, which is why the latter are priced so well now. The new standard Pioneers are beginning to show up already, although they aren't due for a couple more weeks.
By the way, one thing to consider in your LCD vs plasma deliberation is that if the only way you can choose is to see them side by side, the difference probably isn't going to be important when you get one home. A significant difference will probably pop out at you after a few minutes of viewing them and getting an idea of what to look for, even if they are not side by side.
I'd say it's more important to see them in several environments, because any one retail store may have a problem that disadvantages one set or the other. In general, stores aren't really the best places to compare PQ.
Being compulsive myself, I'd agree that the best way is to see them both at home, but I too have compunctions about doing it, unless the retailer is aware and willing (some are, but not usually those with the absolute lowest price).
The 950 and 1150 Elites are due mid-July. The 110FD and 150FD Elites are due late August (yes they are coming early).
The 950 and 1150 Elites are due mid-July. The 110FD and 150FD Elites are due late August (yes they are coming early).
Great news on the 110FD & 150FD, but does that mean I have to wait until September
to watch it thanks to the dreaded break-in period? Seriously...
Great news on the 110FD & 150FD, but does that mean I have to wait until September
to watch it thanks to the dreaded break-in period? Seriously...Man give it up already on the break in....you should break yours in for 1 yr before watching - how bout that? Seriously...
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