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Hello
does anyone know if the aw15 has 1100 oder 1300 ansi? i need a projector better than and brighter than the hs60! Would you recommand buying the Panasonic or the vpl-aw15? I called sony and even they couldnt confirm the ansi lumens... I think actually that the hs60 is almost perfect, just a little to dark. so if this has been fixed with the aw15, i would buy this new one.
any one can help me?
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gwlaw99 06-04-07, 02:51 PM From the AW15 www.projectorreviews.com review
http://www.projectorreviews.com/sony/AW15/performance.php
From a numbers standpoint: Best mode - Cinema, the AW15 puts out only 281 lumens in low lamp mode, but a much more respectable 444 lumens with lamp on high (that's a significantly larger difference between lamp modes, than found on most other projectors. All other lumen measurements below were with the Lamp on High power.
Standard Mode, with Color Temp set to Middle, lamp on full power yields 488 lumens
Here is what the same reviewer said about the HS51a (clone of HS60)
http://www.projectorreviews.com/sony/HS51A/performance.php
I measured in Cinema/low power mode, only 221 lumens. Most home theater projectors claim 800 to 1200 lumens, but typically put out from the low 200 lumen range, to the high 300 lumens range, depending on the model, in their best, darkest, and highest contrast modes - which are typically called Cinema.
Bottom line
Low mode went from 220 to 280 lumens
Normal mode went from around 300 to 444
hmm but i thought its even brighter in eco mode than the sanyo z5? on cine4home they told other things about it...
thx for the reply btw ^^
CaspianM 06-04-07, 03:56 PM I have had two HS series. One HS60 and one HS51A.
For some reasons one way or another, my current HS51A turned out to be brighter than HS 60 by a noticeable margin.
I feel it is unit to unit variation.
Running a unity gain 96" wide 16x9, I have no problem with brightness but it is always welcome if it can retain the same black level.
This unit is the only unit that can do close to my CRT setup in color and blacklevel.
Build quality is awesome and lens is tack sharp with zero abberations and no corner fall out and loss of resolution.
I would suggest potential buyers do their home work and give this unit a seriouss look.
I would read Art's review as a personal review only. He doesn't have proper equipment to do proper gray scale and I don't think he has capability to read lower contrast level to do a proper true black level reading. I might be wrong but the way he did gray scale on this unit was not the best way turning lower lumen than expected. My HS51A put out 300 lumen in dimmest mode with 150 hrs on the lamp and now with well over 300 hrs have not notice any change in lumen . Read cine4home report on this unit for more credible testing.
Overall HS/AW series are best LCD PJ out there. If one needs more lumen Panny AX100 is another LCD but do not expect 2000 lumen out of it. Itis more around 350 after D65 set up.
I get about 600 lumen in Dynamic with hi lamp with DI disabled out of the Sony HS5A.
thanks caspian this are great news. so in fact you think the test on cine4home is more serious and you think that the aw15 is indeed brighter than the hs60 and the z5?
because I wanna use the projector only in eco mode for the 3000 hours lamp time... do you think that the aw15 is as bright in eco mode as the hs60 in normal mode?
regards and big thx :)
CaspianM 06-04-07, 05:11 PM I would think AW is a brighter one. If you keep your desire for lumen reasonable and look at the PQ on overall basis AW should do a great PJ. I even run the HS51A with lights (recessed lights and have all black shadow box around the screen)) on for sports and looks fine. If your room is white colored you might wash out the screen with lights on.
Buy your unit from someone such as Sony itself with return policy just in case. That is true for any projector. I bought mine from BB and had them write on the receipt that they take it back within 30 days with no restocking fee. But it turned out to be keeper knowing that I am CRTer and picky. There are all sort good PJ's out there now with good pricing.
hehe. ok I think I will give it a chance. advanced iris 2 should do a great job. you think it can beat the panasonic pt-ax100???
CaspianM 06-04-07, 06:02 PM hehe. ok I think I will give it a chance. advanced iris 2 should do a great job. you think it can beat the panasonic pt-ax100???
Panny will do better in brightness but falls behind in contrast, sharpness and color. It also has smooth screen that some love and others don't. It is substanially a more costly PJ as well. If you want it bright ax100 might be the top pick for you. Sony has longer warranty as well.
i love you. thanks for anything :] will buy it and report how well it worked.
cheers
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CaspianM 06-04-07, 07:04 PM Your welcome. You are on your own. I am afraid it might be slightly less brighter than what you described. Overall Sony puts out a picture that is indeed very nice. You also can compensate for its brightness by choosing a higher than unity screen. High power might be over kill but some love it. With HP you can get a bright pic with Sony even at 10' wide.
it just has to be brighter in eco mode than the old hs60
hessel holland 06-05-07, 09:40 AM susu2k...if someone hasn't mention the Da-lite High Power screen to you, not sure if that's what CaspianM is referring to....the High Power screen can certainly brighten things up and is reasonably priced.
i already installed my reflecta 1,2 gain now. don't wanna change it. i love it : ] i just wanna buy a projector, but i dont know which one. the aw15 or the pt-ax100e
CaspianM 06-05-07, 10:46 AM What size is your screen. If it is a true 1.2 gain it should help.
1, 8 m.
i called sony and they said that the new sony aw-15 only has 1100 ansi lumen. so even less than the hs60. but in the press release they said its brighter. and actually the z5 is also brighter with 1100 ansi than the hs60 with 1200. how is this possible?
regards
CaspianM 06-05-07, 11:02 AM AW15 is brighter regardless of the manufacturing rating. It uses a brighter bulb with the same light engine and lens.
With 1.8m/70" diag screen you should get about 15 FTL with either hs60 and little more with AW15. That is bright. That screen size doesn't need a hi lumen pj.
thanks caspian!
but how can it be brighter with 1100 ansi? ^^ hehe
So I guess you agree that the color quality and CR of the new AW15 is better than the ones on Panny and HS60. Because in fact the HS60 wouldn't need a lot more of brightness to be just perfect!
so maybe they've really fixed it now? I have a very dark room with white walls so the aw15 in eco mode should produce sufficent light or what do you think? is it worth trying the aw15? or do you think the panny is a better one?
rgrds
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