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baddgsx
06-07-07, 08:29 AM
Hi , ive searched and searched and could not find a thread that specificly talked about these patterns on the menu screen of any SONY made movie. If anyone doesnt know at the title menu screen of the movie, hit the triangle button on the controller to pop up the little sony display and press 7669 and then ENTER. this pops up HD quality test patterns so you can calibrate your ps3 or blu ray palyer to your TV using a TRUE HD signal from your source. Id like to talk about these patterns and how to use them, so any feedback if welcome , thanx Chris

4 patterns

1. Color , black level , ( dont see a contrast value in this one)
2. resolution
3. grayscale
4. some convergence pattern

my setup is a hd-70fh96 JVC , Ps3 , denon 3930ci
with the sony patterns it seems that my brightness setting are off, they are too low, i get black crush. I enabled superwhite and rgb limited. anyone else get this kind of problem?

Michael TLV
06-07-07, 09:10 AM
Greetings

The grayscale sweep pattern is the contrast pattern.

Regards

John Mason
06-07-07, 11:07 AM
Chris,
Someone earlier reported (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=717346) measuring ~1920 lines horiz. rez with the resolution pattern with a 1080p display. Curious to see what that pattern looks like if anyone can post it, especially if the image shows resolvable lines ~10-11, which presumably means ~10.78X100X1.78= ~1919 (converting lines/picture height to lines/picture width (16/9) for ~1920 resolvability). Vertical rez (horiz. wedges) would just be line-merge-point number X 100.

Was thinking of getting a LG dual-format player just to use these patterns, but understand the LG player doesn't have adequate interactive (iHD) ability for DVE's HD-DVD test disc. My cable system/STB provides HDNet's 1080i test patterns, but the STB and/or head end processing limits effective horiz. rez to ~1290 lines with a 9-in-gun CRT RPTV that might resolve up to ~1600 lines. -- John

baddgsx
06-07-07, 11:23 AM
ill take a pic of it tonight and post it. it should come out ok , i have a 10.3 pixel sony slr cam ,

baddgsx
06-08-07, 11:17 AM
John , i took picks of the res. pattern and will post them this weekend ,
I performed my calibration of the ps3 to my jvc using the sony patterns.
My settings for contrast were almost the same as the settings using the denon 3930ci but the brightness was way off. With the denon , i was getting -22 for brightness , and for the ps3 i was getting 0 a huge jump up. I though it would be the other way, being lower since its HD, does anyone know why its like this? The overall picture is alot better, blacks are not crushed while watching bluray discs now. I still dont understand why the brightness is higher on an HD disc.

John Mason
06-09-07, 08:06 AM
Thanks, look forward to seeing the images. A few years back I used the HDNet pluge patterns to set my brightness/contrast for a 1080i RPTV. But with 1080i OTA/cable video I noticed too many darker areas within images. For example, with full sunlight sporting events, knew I should be able to see facial details better in partial shadows. So I tweaked the adjustments and have kept them the same for several years. -- John

lwright84
08-27-09, 10:26 PM
I see this hasnt been updated in awhile, and rather than be the guy who posts a new thread I figure I'd update this one. Here is a basic guide to how to use the sony test patterns:

No need for all that.. just go get Black Hawk Down on Blu-Ray or any number of Sony releases. For full information, see this post from over in the Official Sharp Aquos LC-42D64U/46D64U/52D64U Owner's Thread II (No Price Talk) thread, credit to Shibiwan:

The nice thing about the Aquos is that it remembers the picture settings for each input individually, and it is a good idea to use the "user" setting to customize the settings for each input. You'll notice that there is a number after the "User" setting indicating which user input setting that is.

Get a hold of any Sony Pictures Blu Ray Disk (e.g. Spiderman 3, Surf's Up, Resident Evil Extinction etc) and start up the Blu Ray. When you get to the main menu, press 7669 (i.e. spelling SONY using the numbers like you do on the phone) and you get into the 4 calibration screens.

The first screen is the SMPTE color bar screen that looks something this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/SMPTE_Color_Bars.svg/320px-SMPTE_Color_Bars.svg.png

You have to adjust your contrast/brightness settings until you can see the three small vertical pluge bars (dark grey bars) below the red bar, then adjust the brightness so that the 3rd (right) pluge bar is just barely visible (the #1 and #2 bars should look black at that point).

This is what mine looks like after I calibrate it on the first screen:
http://www.function-7.com/f7images/LC42D64U/images/img_8182.jpg

Next adjust the color so that the red looks normal and doesnt bleed into the magenta and blue bars, and adjust the hue so that the red looks red and the blue looks blue.

http://www.function-7.com/f7images/LC42D64U/images/img_8183.jpg
The 2nd screen lets you adjust your sharpness settings. Set it so that the lines look clear and you minimize the oval shaped artifacts in the round patterns. To confirm, you'll notice the vertical and horizontal bars with the fine lines look like they are almost the same tone of grey when viewed from a distance.

http://www.function-7.com/f7images/LC42D64U/images/img_8184.jpg
The 3rd screen is the brighness ramp. You can fine tune your contrast settings here a little more so that the ramp looks smooth and the extreme ends transition gradually to black or white. If the black and white ends smear into the gradient, reduce the contrast. You may want to go back and forth between screens #1 and #3 to set the contrast/brightness settings optimally.

http://www.function-7.com/f7images/LC42D64U/images/img_8185.jpg
The 4th screen is a grid screen - this should not matter on an LCD - it's really meant for adjusting geometry/linearity/convergence on CRT and projectors.

....that's a quick way to do it without any specialized equipment. For better results get the blue filter glasses from THX.com (a paltry $1.99 investment) to better tune your color/hue settings.

Anyone that could provide more 'specific' instructions would be greatly appreciated. I know this doesn't compare to pro calibration services, but for those of us who just spent all our money on the TV to begin with, it's a great place to start! Also, if this could be stickied somewhere for quick reference I think it would be most helpful.