View Full Version : New wireless router to PS3 issue :(
jasonstiller 06-08-07, 03:19 PM Hopin you guys can help. I just picked up a Dlink 1320 (i think) wireless router and hooked my wireless network up yesterday. configured security via WEP and used a 5 letter ASCII password for it. Got the PC, Wii and the 360 to hook up fine but the PS3 is givin me a hard time! When it tells me to input the WEP key, i enter the 5 digit password (just like the other 3 systems) and when i press enter the ps3 shows more astericks than the 5 that i entered. I figured it was just some security thing so i continued and when the ps3 checks the connection it says theres an issue with the WEP security password. WTF!! i tried it a million times plus rebooting and it still wont work HELP!!!
wmwilker 06-08-07, 03:21 PM your password will generate a WEP code. That is what you enter into the PS3
ppshooky 06-08-07, 03:55 PM Have you tried using WPA instead?
splinters 06-08-07, 05:24 PM Sounds like your having an issue with hex code vs. "passphrases". The second post mentioned the WEP code and that's probably the issue. Your ps3 probably looks at it like it is hex code when in fact your typing in ASCII character passphrases.
I would recommend utilizing a few letters that are outside of a-f so it's obvious that it's a passphrase and your ps3 will correctly convert it to hex and log-on.
I would also recommend away from WEP keys, too easy to break, FBI has been doing demo's of how to crack a WEP-based key in less than 10 min's. Great way to let the war drivers spam and send child porn through your i-net connection. I would recommend WPA or WPA2 Personal (passphrase) as viable alternatives that any modern router is required to support.
-Splints
jasonstiller 06-08-07, 07:18 PM ok guys, ill check it out tonite. Is this just how PS3 translate the password cause none of my other wireless devices have this problem.
Ok this is driving me insane. When I first got home I noticed my PS3 kept getting knocked offline, so I upgraded my routers firmware......Wrong move......See below:
I have a Linksys BEFW1154 v.4 wireless router. I have a MAC filter enabled and SSID broadcasting disabled and was connecting just fine from my laptop which uses a linksys wireless card WPC11 v.4 . I do not use WEP at this time. Then I upgraded the default firmware (1.4 something I think) to firmware 1.5.02 and now if I turn SSID broadcasting off, my laptop will not connect to it (after reboots, etc)............I wiped out the profile and used a new SSID and this behavior persists.
Part of the reason I want SSID broadcasting off is because I have a wireless Playstation 3 that misbehaves if its on. Otherwise it has been staying connected just fine.
Any workarounds or fixes for this issue???
ppshooky 06-11-07, 08:47 PM You have no other security settings running that you failed to mention? I noticed you said you don't use WEP, but what about WPA-PSK or WPA2? Or, is your router too old for it?
Resetting to factory settings didn't help?
When you reset to factory settings, did you set all of your security settings before testing with your laptop?
I just turned WEP back on, but that didn't help.
Basically, the PS3 is fine as long as broadcasting is disabled..........The laptop is fine as long as broadcasting is enabled.............See my conundrum? Whats pising me off is, before the router FW upgrade, the laptop was working fine with broadcasting disabled......
ppshooky 06-12-07, 12:18 AM Do you have another router to test with?
Yeah I might shanghi my parents', their's has the old firmware......Maybe a swap will solve it, it still bugs the **** out of me. This should be a known issue....
Is the ONLY fix for the PS3 to disable broadcasting? That seems lame as well...
ppshooky 06-12-07, 10:39 AM Not sure. I don't need to use wireless for my PS3, so I haven't tested. However, I disabled broadcast as well. But, I've been having some weird issues with my work laptop lately...and from what I've gathered online, disabling broadcast not only enhances network instability, it also is not an effective way to secure your network.
I also use MAC filtering (which can be spoofed with common tools) and use WPA-PSK rather than WEP (takes about 10 mins for someone to break a WEP password, find a hidden wireless connection, and spoof a MAC address). WPA-PSK is universally seen as the strongest primary defense against wireless intruders.
I would encourage you to switch to a new router that has WPA, and most likely more compatible with the PS3.
Trying to limit my costs. Thanks for the headsup on WPA, I didn't realize WEP was suddenly so vulnerable. And I'm in IT. lol........ I'll look into it.
Thing is with spoofing the MAC address, wouldn't they need to know what my list of acceptable MAC addresses is though?
ppshooky 06-12-07, 12:25 PM That's what I thought too. But, during my research on trying to figure out my work's laptop issue, I came across a lot of debates on what is the proper way to secure a wireless network.
Just on a quick search on google, I found these articles:
http://searchsecuritychannel.techtarget.com/generic/0,295582,sid97_gci1243542,00.html - MAC address vulnerabilities
http://www.isaac.cs.berkeley.edu/isaac/wep-faq.html - WEP vulernabilities
http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/wireless/networks/archives/cracking-wpapsk-6730 - WEP and WPA-PSK vulnerabilities
Overall, wireless is inherently insecure. Even with WPA-PSK, it is still possible for someone to break into the network...it will just take a really long time and probably not worth their time when your next door neighbor doesn't have any security or is using WEP.
I didn't want to use wireless in my network, but my fiance wanted to be able to use wireless with her laptop...and I must admit that it is nice to be able to bring my work laptop with me to the family room when watching TV.
I just used a combination of MAC address filtering, SSID broadcast disabled, and a 20+ character WPA-PSK passkey. It's not invasion-proof by any means, but it should be a nice pain in the ass to try and get into my network.
Yeah I'm not that paranoid about someone breaking in........The basic security is enough to keep 99% of the neighbors out. Thanks though I am going to research some of the articles you posted.
tingham 06-12-07, 04:25 PM Ok this is driving me insane. When I first got home I noticed my PS3 kept getting knocked offline, so I upgraded my routers firmware......Wrong move......See below:
I have a Linksys BEFW1154 v.4 wireless router. I have a MAC filter enabled and SSID broadcasting disabled and was connecting just fine from my laptop which uses a linksys wireless card WPC11 v.4 . I do not use WEP at this time. Then I upgraded the default firmware (1.4 something I think) to firmware 1.5.02 and now if I turn SSID broadcasting off, my laptop will not connect to it (after reboots, etc)............I wiped out the profile and used a new SSID and this behavior persists.
Part of the reason I want SSID broadcasting off is because I have a wireless Playstation 3 that misbehaves if its on. Otherwise it has been staying connected just fine.
Any workarounds or fixes for this issue???
Yeah I might shanghi my parents', their's has the old firmware......Maybe a swap will solve it, it still bugs the **** out of me. This should be a known issue....
Is the ONLY fix for the PS3 to disable broadcasting? That seems lame as well...
This is a known issue with this router. This router will also boot you off your network when streaming files from the net. I would upgrade to a b/g router as soon as you can. You WILL have other issues with this router eventually so you might as well get a different one asap.
Edit:
I just wanted to add that I did own this router..and over time it started to have several issues. It worked fine for a couple of years..but started to develop intermittent problems. I researched the issues and apparently alot of people were having the same issues as me with this router. linksys never had a newer firmware available while I used the router in my setup. Maybe the new firmware that you have installed was a attempted fix by linksys..but apparently something in the new firmware has caused issues for you.
On the newer b/g routers, do you have to disable broadcasting for the PS3 to work?
If I have to spend money, my fix is simple. I move the modem and router behind my tv, plug into the PS3 with a wire, and buy a wireless usb card for my PC. Then I can leave broadcasting on and all will be happy.
tingham 06-13-07, 05:00 PM What kind of issues do you have with the ps3 if you have ssid on? I can leave ssid on and have no problems with my setup. I know some people were disabling ssid to prevent blu-ray freezing issues. Also with "g" you will get faster download speeds.
it constantly disconnects and reconnects to the PSN if SSID broadcasting is on.
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