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pmcomp
06-09-07, 06:01 AM
Hello everybody,

I would like to invite you to our Polish forum HDTV Polska, to read the first deep review of HD VMD player with lot of images and HD examples. As you remember we have published there the first review of Samsung BluRay player. I can suppose this one it could be the first review in the world.

There is the link to the forum: http://www.hdtvpolska.com/ , you must register. On the bottom you can switch the language from Polish (Polska) into English.

There is the direct link to the review: http://hdtvpolska.com/index.php?showtopic=5776&st=0#entry49747 . Of course it is in Polish, you could use any web translators.

There is the link to the NME Inc. http://www.nmeinc.com/ in English.

I'll be very glad to hear yours opinions and feedback.

Enjoy.

Regards

Piotr

PS. to the admin: please move this topic from HD-DVD BD to the new right one, I didn't find any similar.

jim.bennett
06-10-07, 01:11 AM
This is interesting, I haven't even heard of this format until now. What is the availability of media which takes advantage of its capabilities?

MrGonk
06-25-07, 02:04 PM
it used to be called FMD -- flourescent multilayer disc. originally the producers estimated it might be possible to put dozens, or even hundreds, of layers into one disc. each layer appears to have standard dvd layer capacity. but apparently a modified version can use blue laser technology to hold more. i mean, you hear about technologies like this all the time, but what's shocking here is that they appear to have a functioning, commercially available hardware unit out there and some software to support it. david hasselhoff notwithstanding.

coolscan
06-29-07, 11:03 AM
Doesn't this belong in the main HD section of the forum as this is not more dual format player than that it also play DVD?

Too bad none of the translators I tried does a good job of translating Polish. I have followed HD VMD in more than a year and should like to read this impressive in depth review. At least, can someone translate the conclusion?





it used to be called FMD -- flourescent multilayer disc.
Very similar for sure, but FMD has "become" HD DMD (http://www.ddatainc.com/)

Rutgar
06-29-07, 11:34 AM
Doesn't this belong in the main HD section of the forum as this is not more dual format player than that it also play DVD?




??? I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here.

coolscan
06-30-07, 07:27 AM
??? I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here.

Isn't this the forum section for dual HD format players?

The HD VMD is a single (red-laser) HD format player.
One of the 3 HD formats released, HD DVD, Blu-Ray & HD VMD.
The player does not play any other HD formats.

MrGonk
07-02-07, 10:42 AM
good lord... is there any meaningful difference between HD-DMD and HD-VMD other than who owns the patents?

mj0012
07-12-07, 02:59 PM
After looking at the NME site and looking at the pictures on the Polish forum, I think that these are actually re-branded EVD players :eek: If you read the specification page on the NME site, it says that the current players will only support DUAL layer VMD (presumably just a DVD-9) and MPEG-2 encoding. In fact, the page even says that it can play EVD discs! I think that NME made some sort of deal with a Chinese manufacturer (probably Shinco) to purchase all of their unsold EVD players and is trying to pawn them off to the rest of the world as a new format.

mj0012
07-12-07, 07:08 PM
I managed to dig up an old press release from 2005. This is definitely EVD. I seriously doubt that they have the whole multi-layer discs working and this will probably just fade away like EVD did the first time. Based on those Polish pictures this looks at best like HD-VCD. About as useful as Stereo AM radio in my opinion.
Here's the press release:



NME and Beijing E-World Technology Co., Ltd To Launch Total Red Laser HD Solution - EVD/VMD High Definition Players As Well As VMD Discs At CeBIT 2006 in Hanover, Germany, in March
LONDON --(Business Wire)-- Dec. 29, 2005 New Medium Enterprises (OTCBB: NMEN) and Beijing E-World Technology Company, Ltd., today announced the spring launch of the VMD-EVD-HD player at CeBIT in March 2006. Beijing E-World CTO Mr. Xu Xiang said "The two companies have achieved total compatibility between the EVD -HD player and VMD discs. All parties involved are very satisfied with this prototype and are confident to start commercial production in early spring."

As an important show of support for the cooperation between NME and Beijing E-World, a leading Bollywood (Indian) film distributor Eros will release 5 titles in HD on VMD together with the EVD - HD player at the CeBIT exhibition in March.

NME and Beijing E-World technological teams have been cooperating with each other extensively during the past several months. The two companies had launched their VMD-EVD-HD player prototype before Christmas in 2005, and plan to launch the commercial production in the first quarter of 2006. "We believed it was important to continue the integration of our two technologies, as well as gain strong assistance, technical support and input from Chinese DVD manufacturers prior to the launch of our products. We now believe that we have all the necessary support from the Chinese DVD player manufacturers to launch the HD solution at the CeBIT show in March 2006," said Mahesh Jayanarayan, CEO of NME.

About New Medium Enterprises, Inc. (NME):

NME is aimed at positioning itself as a technology leader in the field of High Definition (HD) digital storage. NME is offering the film, entertainment, video gaming and storage industries a total solution including thwarting video piracy. The Company has developed the Versatile Multilayer Disc (VMD), a technologically advanced red laser optical storage disc that has capacities ranging from 20 to 40GB. The technology has the capability of up to 100GB of data storage, which is 20 fold the capacity of existing DVD discs.

About Beijing E-World Technology Co., Ltd. (E-World):

E-World, a Chinese publicly listed company, is engaged in the development of electronic chip and board technology. E-World is also the developer of the Enhanced Versatile Disc (EVD), which is currently selling in China, and one of the world's HD optical storage discs.

Rutgar
07-12-07, 08:41 PM
Isn't this the forum section for dual HD format players?

The HD VMD is a single (red-laser) HD format player.
One of the 3 HD formats released, HD DVD, Blu-Ray & HD VMD.
The player does not play any other HD formats.

Okay, now I understand you and agree. Your original post had some grammer issues and thus was confusing.

syncguy
02-04-08, 12:41 AM
Bollywood movie giant Eros entertainment has a partnership with NME (According to NME site.) Bollywood make much more movies than Hollywood and, I think, they are watched more than Hollywood movies.

It was announced in many sites that the latest Bollywood hit Om Shanti Om will be released on Blu-ray. These sites include amazone.com, highdef forum, blu-ray.com, zulm.net and India weekly. However, most recently, Eros has announced that they are not releasing OSO on blu-ray and requested sites such as blu-ray.com and highdef forum to remove articles related to OSO blu-ray release.

This appears like a back-flip and could be due to HD-VMD. If Bollywood studios such as Eros and Yash Raj sign up with HD-VMD, there could be sufficient momentum to push this format through the huge Indian market.

A third HD format is the last thing that I wanted to see especially if it is inferior to Blu-ray and HDDND.

iwaspushed
03-14-08, 03:52 AM
Is this review still up? I can't find it, and I can't find the button the change the website to English.

lgans316
03-14-08, 04:01 AM
You are right syncguy.
I am extremely worried with this kind of stupid move adopted by production studios in India.
Sony and Panasonic should rush and push Blu-ray in India once they are ready with their Profile 2.0 players and stop proliferation of HD VMD.
They should make Blu-ray Region Free in India and slash the price. I have already spent a fortune on Blu-ray and HD DVD and I strictly don't want HD VMD to be rolled out in the market.

U.K based Ayngaran International's Indian counterpart AP International too will be releasing movies on HD VMD while the overseas release on Blu-ray.

donthetech
03-15-08, 12:33 PM
You are right syncguy.
I am extremely worried with this kind of stupid move adopted by production studios in India.
Sony and Panasonic should rush and push Blu-ray in India once they are ready with their Profile 2.0 players and stop proliferation of HD VMD.
They should make Blu-ray Region Free in India and slash the price. I have already spent a fortune on Blu-ray and HD DVD and I strictly don't want HD VMD to be rolled out in the market.

U.K based Ayngaran International's Indian counterpart AP International too will be releasing movies on HD VMD while the overseas release on Blu-ray.

Why shouldn't India use a format of their choosing for their content? They are an independent country of what, 1 billion people? And what about China, possibly using CH-DVD, with what, another billion people?

iwaspushed
03-17-08, 03:00 AM
Can anyone tell me if the review is still up? I'm very interested to hear what they had to say about it.

lgans316
03-17-08, 03:36 AM
Why shouldn't India use a format of their choosing for their content? They are an independent country of what, 1 billion people? And what about China, possibly using CH-DVD, with what, another billion people?

Then what's the point in buying and pushing Blu-ray ?

T2k
03-19-08, 01:07 PM
Then what's the point in buying and pushing Blu-ray ?

Since when anyone is pushing Blu-Ray? :) Moreover I highly doubt India or China gives a flying *&^@ about what's being pushed in the US internal market, especially when it would only generate royalties for US studios and Japanese/US CE manufacturers (sans outsourced mfr costs but it goes to China anyway... :D)

I can fully understand if these billion-sized countries want their own format - hell, I would even buy into it if my movies would be available and they would be free of the illegal Hollywood-pushed restrictions e.g. DRM, region limitations etc.
Time to put all those parasites on notice.

donthetech
03-19-08, 10:58 PM
Since when anyone is pushing Blu-Ray? :) Moreover I highly doubt India or China gives a flying *&^@ about what's being pushed in the US internal market, especially when it would only generate royalties for US studios and Japanese/US CE manufacturers (sans outsourced mfr costs but it goes to China anyway... :D)

I can fully understand if these billion-sized countries want their own format - hell, I would even buy into it if my movies would be available and they would be free of the illegal Hollywood-pushed restrictions e.g. DRM, region limitations etc.
Time to put all those parasites on notice.I couldn't have said it better myself....