So I went to Fry's because Best Buy never seems to get new releases anymore and bought Rio Bravo and Smokey and the Bandit.

Whilst I'm not a fan of the Trilogy, I do own the Matrix on DVD and it IS an enjoyable film.

If the Matrix was a single movie HD-DVD on street date, I'd of bought it on street date.


So, do you think it'll ever be available singly? Or should I open my Trilogy?


It really isn't about the money, its about the waste of shelf space and the fact that Warner is cheating the consumer a bit by releasing it this way. IMO.

Okay, I'm a fan. Before the Matrix Ultimate Collection I upgraded my whole speaker system. :D

So, IMO open it and enjoy "The Look and Sound of Perfect"! :D

...Angelo

Of course it will be available in a single package. I hope you are old enough to make decisions on your own without having to poll a bunch of strangers. The film is probally the best film out there on HD and the sequels while not the best examples of writing are equally as awsome in HD video and Dolby true HD.

I hope you are old enough to make decisions on your own without having to poll a bunch of strangers.


Gee, thanks a bunch!


Nope, 38, not old enough yet...

Do you have a link (is that what its called?) on proper use of teh Internet and Forums?


Sheesh.


Now that I have addressed the lame part of your post...

Of course it will be available in a single package.


Link?

And you agree then that Warner is lame for doing it that way?

Maybe if they'd of released it properly, it might have done better against Pirates?

Money isn't an object here, its attempting to stop stupid marketing techniques in my own little way.

Gee, thanks a bunch!


Nope, 38, not old enough yet...

Do you have a link (is that what its called?) on proper use of teh Internet and Forums?


Sheesh.


Now that I have addressed the lame part of your post...




Link?

And you agree then that Warner is lame for doing it that way?

Maybe if they'd of released it properly, it might have done better against Pirates?

Money isn't an object here, its attempting to stop stupid marketing techniques in my own little way.


It's called common sense.

They did it with MI.

of course they will release it as a stand alone.

I am glad that they released it that way. because of the ultimate collection.

then I would have to get all 3.

it's like getting 1 of the LOTR.

you need all 3 cuz it is a trillogy.

unless you are like one of those people that likes half of something.

Is the MI set available separately yet?

That's another I passed on.

Maybe if they'd of released it properly, it might have done better against Pirates?



I am sure Warner could care less how Pirates is doing in terms of units sold. They sold about the same dollar amount in terms of dollars as both Pirates movies did during the first week.

With respect to marketing it is a good move by them. If all movies were released by themselves I doubt they would of sold 13,000 plus copied of Matrix two and three.

If you need an independent source (link) I will just write an article and post it on my web-site, because it seems folks will believe anything published on the net weather correct or not. What do you think? The MI series started as a box set and then they released the singles. Warner's next round will to catch all the folks that did not pick up the box set by releasing the single discs.

Call me crazy but that is capitalism.

It's called common sense.




Another free thinker. Good to have peers.

They did it with MI.


Warner did what with MI? You're thinking of Paramount...

On topic:
I have no idea whether or not they will release them seperately, nor does anyone else here. I can guess as much as the rest of the guys in here, but it would still only be guessing. I don't care much for the sequels either, but if you are sucker for visually impressive films, I would advise you to open it. Not only are both of the sequels ahead of Matrix when it comes to PQ, they are also visually more entertaining movies. The motorway chase in the second, the attack on Zion in the third etc. If this doesn't sound the least bit interesting, and you don't have any urgent need to see the first one, I would rather wait until October, when Warner releases them on BD. Chances are they might get released individually at the same time.

Hang on - you bought the trilogy without the intention of opening it?

How can you watch it if you don't open it? And if you don't want to watch it, why on earth did you buy it?

Sorry, I don't understand - I must be old-fashioned, modern thinking confuses me no end.

If you don't plan to return it then open it. It's not like it'll be a collectors item that you can keep on the shelf and make money with.

The Matrix has problems with the audio-video synchronization. If that bothers you at all then return it.

(It only seems to affect the first movie, but not #2 or #3.)

Don't open it. Just wait until they release the movies separately, which they will. There is no way they are going to sit back with disappointing sales and not release them separately, all because of the 2 sequel stinkers that force you to pay too much for 1 good movie. It's mind boggling how anybody can enjoy the sequels which were made for monetary gain ONLY. :confused:

Gee, thanks a bunch!


Nope, 38, not old enough yet...

Do you have a link (is that what its called?) on proper use of teh Internet and Forums?


Sheesh.


Now that I have addressed the lame part of your post...




Link?

And you agree then that Warner is lame for doing it that way?

Maybe if they'd of released it properly, it might have done better against Pirates?

Money isn't an object here, its attempting to stop stupid marketing techniques in my own little way.

No link needed. There is a seperate barcode on each case, plus a barcode for each set. When the Mission Impossible box set was released, MI3 had a seperate barcode (because it was released seperately), but MI1 and 2 had no barcodes. The new single releases do have barcodes.

It costs several hundred dollars to get a barcode issued, and Warner wouldn't go through the expense of purchasing barcodes for the seperate films, unless they were going to eventually be released individually.

The Matrix has problems with the audio-video synchronization. If that bothers you at all then return it.

(It only seems to affect the first movie, but not #2 or #3.)
and people using optical outdated receivers and not using the truehd track ;)
hdmi receivers dont have that problem using truehd or not. and for sure mine doesnt. oh yah and even then most optical users dont report a problem.

The Matrix has problems with the audio-video synchronization. If that bothers you at all then return it.

(It only seems to affect the first movie, but not #2 or #3.)

I believe this is your opinion. It appears that more people are reporting no sync problems than people are reporting sync problems. When situations like this arise, it can't be a defect at the disc, or grossly more people will experience the problem.

In these cases, the people who experience the sync issues likely have some incorrect hardware setup, or there equipment just isn't up to snuff.

I bought it while purchasing two other HD-DVD's, not to make money.

Yeah, I guess I'll return it, and buy the single of MI. :D


And wait for the first one...but then again, you are right about the 2nd movie highway scene.... doh!

Gee, thanks a bunch!
Money isn't an object here, its attempting to stop stupid marketing techniques in my own little way.


How? You have purchased it. Do you think the movie companies care if you watch it 1000 times or toss it into the trash as long as you payed for it.

The Matrix has problems with the audio-video synchronization. If that bothers you at all then return it.

(It only seems to affect the first movie, but not #2 or #3.)

I've seen the 1st one, The Matrix twice using my A1 with analog out, zero sync problems.

...Angelo

Don't open it. Just wait until they release the movies separately, which they will. There is no way they are going to sit back with disappointing sales and not release them separately, all because of the 2 sequel stinkers that force you to pay too much for 1 good movie. It's mind boggling how anybody can enjoy the sequels which were made for monetary gain ONLY. :confused:


I beg to differ. I liked all three movies, and I saw the sequels as logical extensions of the first. I've already stated my analysis for the three movies, and I believe it to be fairly spot-on as far as what is really going on in them. As passive entertainment, IMHO, the sequels can't hold a candle to the original, because its narrative structure is seriously flawed. However, thematically, the sequels were needed to bring the original's concepts to fruition (it was incomplete, and I felt it was incomplete even when the original first came out). The sequels do a great job of bringing closure to the concepts introduced in the first, and IMHO were very necessary if you knew what the hell was going on in the first movie to begin with.

Hang on - you bought the trilogy without the intention of opening it?

How can you watch it if you don't open it? And if you don't want to watch it, why on earth did you buy it?

Sorry, I don't understand - I must be old-fashioned, modern thinking confuses me no end.

when i used to read IGN forums all the time people would buy a game and then make a post should i open my "insert game here" or should i return it? threads for almost every game that came out. i never understood the reason behind it, if they was afraid that they wouldn't like it why did they buy it before they rented it? same goes here if you didn't like the last two matrix why did you spend the money on the trilogy?

and people using optical outdated receivers and not using the truehd track ;)
hdmi receivers dont have that problem using truehd or not. and for sure mine doesnt. oh yah and even then most optical users dont report a problem.


and people who does use optical outdated receivers maybe just satisfied for what
they have, and maybe financial reason stops them to enjoy hdmi for now, have that ever cross your mind, I am glad you were able to upgrade with hdmi you sounds like you never use optical before. Maybe because we most users of now outdated optical receivers ( according to you) dont ever have a problem to report.

Proud owner of:
MITS HD 1000U
TOSHIBA HD A2
ONKYO RECEIVER
POLK AUDIO

You only live once! Open it and enjoy it now! ;)

I suppose this is a form of buyer's remorse, or is it just a troll? If you have never seen The Matrix before than open it and you will like it. I think you've seen it in the movies and already own at least one DVD so you don't need me to review the movie for you. I have seen all three in the movies, and own all three SD DVDs. I already know I'm not buying the HD DVD for that reason. The PQ improvment will be real, but I think I've already seen enough Matrix. You also think you've already seen enough Matrix, so take it back, and then you won't risk buyer's remorse.

The AQ alone is worth the buy on 2 and 3. Make sure you have a good sub, get ready to be thrilled.

If you like the movie(s) you'll get it in HD, period. Same goes for all other movies for me. I'd rather see crisp, saturated colored movies, with lossless audio then dvds low-bitrate,lossy, blurry looking, unsaturated colors with edge halos, posterization, etc.

So, do you think it'll ever be available singly? Or should I open my Trilogy?

Of course it will be available singly at some point. The question is, can you and do you want to wait however long that may be - or do you want to watch it now? :)

Dont do IT! its a money pitt!!

Shortly after the LONG awaited Matrix release on HD DVD,
I upgraded my XBOX 360 HD drive to a Toshiba A2 with HDMI out

Since I now had 2 HDMI players (also have PS3)
Then I had the justification to splurge on a new HDMI AVR, (RX-V661)
which also lead me to a 7.1 setup,
and now I needed two more surround speakers,
while searching I also found 2 new front tower speakers
and 2 front presence speakers
then a second sub (a Velodyne 12")
...since the old 8"yamaha YST80 was 8 years old.

It's ALL the Matrix Ultimate Collections Fault!!!

My apartment living room is getting crowded
with all that audio equipment and a 50" Plasma

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/502/7new34s.jpg

I think you already know the answer to that question. Clearly you bought the set for a reason.

Dont do IT! its a money pitt!!

Shortly after the LONG awaited Matrix release on HD DVD,
I upgraded my XBOX 360 HD drive to a Toshiba A2 with HDMI out

Since I now had 2 HDMI players (also have PS3)
Then I had the justification to splurge on a new HDMI AVR, (RX-V661)
which also lead me to a 7.1 setup,
and now I needed two more surround speakers,
while searching I also found 2 new front tower speakers
and 2 front presence speakers
then a second sub (a Velodyne 12")
...since the old 8"yamaha YST80 was 8 years old.

It's ALL the Matrix Ultimate Collections Fault!!!

My apartment living room is getting crowded
with all that audio equipment and a 50" Plasma

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/502/7new34s.jpgDon't feel bad, I am upgrading my entire audio system as we speak because of the Trilogy.

Dont do IT! its a money pitt!!

Shortly after the LONG awaited Matrix release on HD DVD,
I upgraded my XBOX 360 HD drive to a Toshiba A2 with HDMI out

Since I now had 2 HDMI players (also have PS3)
Then I had the justification to splurge on a new HDMI AVR, (RX-V661)
which also lead me to a 7.1 setup,
and now I needed two more surround speakers,
while searching I also found 2 new front tower speakers
and 2 front presence speakers
then a second sub (a Velodyne 12")
...since the old 8"yamaha YST80 was 8 years old.

It's ALL the Matrix Ultimate Collections Fault!!!

My apartment living room is getting crowded
with all that audio equipment and a 50" Plasma

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/502/7new34s.jpg

Dude, how about you siphon some of that money out of your HT and put a down payment on a house. :confused:

The first Matrix movie is to be released here in europe on 28-8-2007 as a single purchase.

The boxset is already available.

http://www.rodisc.nl/gsp.dll?sid=103&pid=9&p_artikelid=87400&keysetid=20538489&p_productgroepid=2&p_artikelsoort=HDDV&p_genreid=

Dude, how about you siphon some of that money out of your HT and put a down payment on a house. :confused:
Dunno about where he lives but here in cali especially so cal, Houses are EXPENSIVE!

Dude, how about you siphon some of that money out of your HT and put a down payment on a house. :confused:

ummm dude?
I Have a New Home, a Showhome actually (that I designed).
I'm just waiting to take physical possession after the subdivision is sold out. Likely Spring 08'

The New Home Builder I work for is renting it back from me and making the payments:
...Mortgage, Insurance,Taxes,Utilities etc. while its being used as a showhome. :D

It's fully landscaped and a double garage goes up next month,
and when they're done with it, I get the appliances, window coverings and furniture too.

There's a major housing boom right now and the value of the home
has already shot up from $250k to $450k (in just one year).
Paying rent on an apartment is about 50% less than the Mortgage payments,
so I'm making even more money every month I have to wait. :p

No worries mate, I'm doin' ok ;)

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