Hi, I just picked up a Onkyo 605 7.1 reciever for my PS3 and AX2 HD players. The X-Men movie has a 6.1 uncompressed soundtrack but why can't I get it to play via HDMI multichannel. If I go into the PS3 setup menu and select bitstream via optical I can get the 6.1 encoded track. Isn't the PS3 supposed to be able to do 7.1? Or am I missing something!

Hi, I just picked up a Onkyo 605 7.1 reciever for my PS3 and AX2 HD players. The X-Men movie has a 6.1 uncompressed soundtrack but why can't I get it to play via HDMI multichannel. If I go into the PS3 setup menu and select bitstream via optical I can get the 6.1 encoded track. Isn't the PS3 supposed to be able to do 7.1? Or am I missing something!

X-Men 3 has DTS-HD Master Audio for the uncompressed soundtrack. Unfortunatley, the PS3 currently does not support DTS-HD MA via bitstream. There is a good chance Sony will update the PS3 to do this, so you will have to wait. The PS3 currently supports PCM and Dolby TrueHD (although it converts TrueHD to PCM, which doesn't make a difference).

Fox should have put Dolby TrueHD instead of DTS-HD MA on thier movies, but what can you do? There is currently no way to get the full DTS-HD MA....Hope this helps. By the way, this has been previously stated numerous times so you might want to do some research here at AVS.

So it appears that what you are say is that PCM via HDMI on the PS3 is only available in the 5.1 variety for now?

So it appears that what you are say is that PCM via HDMI on the PS3 is only available in the 5.1 variety for now?

HDMI supports 8 channel uncompressed digital audio at 192 kHz sample rate with 24 bits/sample. But of course most movies have 6 channels with 48 kHz and 16-24 bits

What he is saying is there is currently no way to listen to the DTS HD Master Audio track of X3.
The only way to do it is by one of two ways.
1) Have a receiver that will decode DTS HD MA and also have the PS3 output
that track in its raw unprocessed form(bitstream)
2) Have the PS3 decode DTS HD MA internally then send it out as uncompressed PCM

Obviously we are all hoping for the 2nd one because we don't feel like buying a new receiver.

DTS from DTS-HD-MA core for X-Men 3 is 6.1 so PS3 will send 6.1 bitstream at 1.5Mbps to the receiver. My receiver recognized it as 6.1 and matrixed it to 7.1

looks like another victim of onkyo's marketing.

Hi, I just picked up a Onkyo 605 7.1 reciever for my PS3 and AX2 HD players. The X-Men movie has a 6.1 uncompressed soundtrack but why can't I get it to play via HDMI multichannel. If I go into the PS3 setup menu and select bitstream via optical I can get the 6.1 encoded track. Isn't the PS3 supposed to be able to do 7.1? Or am I missing something!

the ps3 can handle 7.1, the soundtrack u have there is originally encoded in 6.1. some receivers can matrix this to 6.1, but not the onkyo 605.

ONKYO HAS A DTSHD DECODE IN IT 605 AMP DECODE DTS HD FOR YOU NOT THE PS3. YOU NEED A HDMI 1.3A CABLE TO GET DTS HD IT WELL NOT WORK ON A 1.1 1.2 ONLY 1.3A DO NOT USE bitstream

Yes, the receiver may be able to decode a DTS HD bitstream but the PS3 currently cannot output it. Right now no BD player can output a DTS HD bitstream. This doesn't have to do with the cable, as they pretty much are the same regardless of version. They do sell HDMI 1.3 cables at very high prices but this is a marketing gimmick at best.

ONKYO HAS A DTSHD DECODE IN IT 605 AMP DECODE DTS HD FOR YOU NOT THE PS3. YOU NEED A HDMI 1.3A CABLE TO GET DTS HD IT WELL NOT WORK ON A 1.1 1.2 ONLY 1.3A DO NOT USE bitstream

doesn't work that way, you'd have to pass the signal to the receiver to be decoded and currently none of the advanced codecs can be passed from player to receiver, all the new codecs (truehd and dts-ma) have to be decoded natively by player and passed to receiver as pcm. maybe there will be updates that will allow this later on, but not right now, which means the main selling point of the new onkyo x05 series means nothing.

P.S. please refrain from using all caps when you type, it's very inpolite internet etiquette and could very well earn you a spot on some ppl's ignore list.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but nothing currently decodes DTS-HD MA correct? DTS-HD yes, but DTS-HD MA no.

Also, while you can get the DTS core from DTS-HD or DTS-HD MA, you can't get DTS-HD from DTS-HD MA. So none of the receivers coming out with DTS-HD support are going to get you anything better than DTS correct? Or are there any disc out with DTS-HD?

P.S. To my knowledge, you can't use the receiver to decode the new audio either if the disc has been authored with advanced content. ie. PiP

ONKYO HAS A DTSHD DECODE IN IT 605 AMP DECODE DTS HD FOR YOU NOT THE PS3. YOU NEED A HDMI 1.3A CABLE TO GET DTS HD IT WELL NOT WORK ON A 1.1 1.2 ONLY 1.3A DO NOT USE bitstream
1. Learn to form complete sentences. Punctuation is your friend - Caps Lock is not.
2. Several of your posts from today have been filled with inaccuracies (the one quoted above being a perfect example.) Perhaps you should refrain from giving others advice until you've caught up on the ins and outs of these new technologies...

I hope this is an appropriate post for this forum, as it concerns titles on sale.

Amazon is selling various X-Men BDs for $7.99 (reduced from $29.99), with product details given as " AC-3, Color, Dolby, DTS Surround Sound, Dubbed, Subtitled, Widescreen"

Best Buy also is selling X-Men BDs for $7.99, advertised as:
Widescreen Dubbed Subtitle AC3.

Yet Best Buy also is separately listing another version of X-Men for $29.99, simply listed as X-Men[Widescreen]. So, what gives with this? I assume all the versions are DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 with a 2.35 AR. Bad assumption?

Thanks.

Old info systems made for DVD. Ignore.

In a nutshell: If you're looking for solid information and especially concerning technical specifications regarding any release then Amazon is nowhere near the top of the list, nor is Best Buy.

I picked up the xmen 3 blu ray from best buy. it was the 2 disc set re-release from a year or two ago. it was 7.99 and was widescreen and 6.1 DTSMA soundtrack. also includes a voucher for xmen first class.

Jacob

HDMI supports 8 channel uncompressed digital audio at 192 kHz sample rate with 24 bits/sample. But of course most movies have 6 channels with 48 kHz and 16-24 bits

What he is saying is there is currently no way to listen to the DTS HD Master Audio track of X3.
The only way to do it is by one of two ways.
1) Have a receiver that will decode DTS HD MA and also have the PS3 output
that track in its raw unprocessed form(bitstream)
2) Have the PS3 decode DTS HD MA internally then send it out as uncompressed PCM

Obviously we are all hoping for the 2nd one because we don't feel like buying a new receiver.

another reason to buy a real blu-ray player not a kids gaming machine

Of course, any PS3 will decode the DTS-HDMA now and pass it as multichannel PCM just like any "real" bluray player...and the newer slim PS3 model can do bitstreaming if you prefer it that way.

another reason to buy a real blu-ray player not a kids gaming machine

You quoted a 4 yr old post that is not even accurate anymore.

another reason to buy a real blu-ray player not a kids gaming machine

You quoted a 4 yr old post that is not even accurate anymore.

Haha, ya, and that "kids gaming machine" has been upgraded how many times with new features? It even supports Blu-Ray 3D, a spec that didn't exist when the PS3 was released. Ya, I'm really sorry I wasted my money it :P