OK, I just bought my A2 a few days ago and am very happy with it. I guess if there is one area that has me a little worried it would be that 800lb Gorilla that would be studio support and projected titles coming out. After reading through various reputable sites about upcoming releases, it appears that there are very frew if any exclusive HD titles. But, sadly to me, there appear to be a bevy of exclusive Blu Ray titles, many of which I really would like to have in High Def.

Hey.... Im not wavering yet..... just wondering if this studio support thing is gonna end up hurting us HD DVD backers at some point?

As I have said elsewhere, there are very few BD titles out or announced that interest me. Perhaps you should have done some research before buying.
J

Yawn

I was a bit concerned 4 months ago...now I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to afford a bunch of these titles coming out.

I'm not concerned

Universal has more movies released/scheduled for release than Sony + Disney. Toss in Weinstein the small HD DVD exclusive and Universal + Weinstein has as many titles as Sony + Disney + Fox

I was concerned back in january, and then they announced a slew of titles and I felt better. Those titles came and went now, and most were of mediocre PQ, and not the A list titles I had hoped for. With only Big Lebowski left on my Radar for upcomming titles I want, It looks like the rest of the summer I will be feeling rather Blu.

Have a look at this thread comparing upcoming exclusives: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=856401

You will see that HD DVD has more exclusives currently lined up in the coming months. It is, of course, a matter of personal taste whether you think these exclusives are better for HD DVD or better for Blu-ray.

I personally like what I'm seeing. :cool:

I was concerned when I just got my HD DVD add-on at Christmas and after CES w/ all the Blu-ray support...but these past couple months have had a complete 180' on my thinking!

I don't think we'll see this thing be decided for a while! Just take a look at Planet Earth HD DVD rankings on Amazon...#3!!

Do we really need one of these threads every single day? Ironically, HD-DVD has more announced titles through summer / fall than Blu-Ray, and better titles as well. Breach, Liar Liar, Bruce ALmighty (all today), Hot Fuzz, 300, Dawn of the Dead, Heroes, Shaun of the Dead, Lebowski, Blood Diamond, Bourne Identity, Scent of a Woman, Darkman, Sea of Love, Meet the Fockers -- what exactly are you people looking for?

Check out the Blu-Ray releases with street dates and tell me where the great titles are, 'cause I can't find any! Unless Wild Hogs is your cup of tea. :rolleyes:

Hey.... Im not wavering yet..... just wondering if this studio support thing is gonna end up hurting us HD DVD backers at some point?

Not yet. In fact, if you look at the numbers and the release schedule, HD DVD will have both more titles and more exclusives than the other side by the end of the summer.

A format war is not an ideal situation, but there's nothing to be "concerned" about on the HD DVD side. At least nothing that shouldn't concern the other side just as equally.


I'd also advise you to take a close look at that "studio support". How many titles have been released by Fox and MGM. How many are announced? How many of the promised Disney classics have been announced?

There's nothing to get worked up about at this stage.

Do we really need one of these threads every single day?

Hey...take it easy bud..... dont read the thread then. :D :rolleyes:

Seriously, its a new format and many of us early buyers like to hear more than once from other backers that all is well. Ya know.... show some love! The "We already talked about this" replies should be used on the hardware forums for the more established stuff!

Peace :)

I'd also advise you to take a close look at that "studio support". How many titles have been released by Fox and MGM. How many are announced? How many of the promised Disney classics have been announced?

There's nothing to get worked up about at this stage.

Treu, not much out of the FOX or MGM camp...but when or if they do "release the hounds" and it is exclusive to BD then it will cause some pain.

Nah, you're right I guess for now...no need to panic. I just wanted to hear it from other HD DVD follks so I'd feel better...... call it Forum Elixir for incessantly worried.

:D

Treu, not much out of the FOX or MGM camp...but when or if they do "release the hounds" and it is exclusive to BD then it will cause some pain.

But that's a big "if". ;)

And, again, this is something that doesn't favor the other side completely. The HD DVD side has some pretty strong "hounds" of their own to release, if the time comes to do that.


Enjoy your A2!

Treu, not much out of the FOX or MGM camp...but when or if they do "release the hounds" and it is exclusive to BD then it will cause some pain.

Nah, you're right I guess for now...no need to panic. I just wanted to hear it from other HD DVD follks so I'd feel better...... call it Forum Elixir for incessantly worried.

:D


Once fox realized that they can't sell Catalog titles for $30+ bucks they pretty much cancelled everything except new releases. That and they are probably waiting for BD+ to finalize which who knows how long that will take.

and the BR side really has some crap titles coming down the road. Universal has some good ones. In all Honesty, Warner than Paramount are putting out the best titles to date.

My HD-DVD collection is sitting at 25 titles as of today and I still know of at least 2 or 3 more I will buy next time I'm near Fry's (The Nutty Professor and Trading Places off the top of my head), point is, I don't buy NEARLY as many movies as others seem to, and even I'll probably be over 30 when my copies of 300 and Boune Identity get here. I bought my player in Jan, I'm personally WAY ahead of the buying rate I had when DVD first came out, and figure with titles like Bourne Ultimatum, Knocked Up, Deliverance, Cool Hand Luke, American Pie, Scarface, Zodiac, Dawn of the Dead, etc, etc, not to mention any other surprises and unannounced holiday titles the stuidos have in store for us (I don't care about exclusive this or that - I want content period - and its there, ok, maybe a Spielberg surprise WOULD be sweet for HD-DVD, AHEM JAWS ;)), I'm more then satisfied...I'll most likely be zeroing in on 100 movies by the end of the year and am in no way "concerned about titles"....I see nothing to worry about other then having the funds to buy, buy, buy! :D

As someone who just ordered an A2, there are titles from BD that I'd like to see in HD so I agree w/ the OP. It's all a matter of taste. Only way HD to have mass appeal is all released HD titles avai on both format or a fully functional uni player.

There are only two titles I am waiting on for blu-ray at the moment. One is an older title (Bram Stoker's Dracula) and the other is a really old one (Guns of Navarone.) Other than that after looking at the upcoming BD releases I don't see any I would purchase. The two titles I am waiting for don't (to my knowledge) have release dates.

Universal has rumored at 300 more titles into the next year, and there are 210+ out now with 50-60 more by then of September alone, I wouldn't worry at all.

~Bobby

Here is the list of summer exclusives, HD DVD got many more exclusives than Blu-Ray:

HD DVD - Blu-ray

June 5, 2007

(none)
1. Bruce Springsteen with the Sessions Band: Live in Dublin (Sony BMG)
2. Hellboy (Sony)
3. The Messengers (Sony)
4. Rescue Me: The Complete Third Season (Sony)

June 12, 2007

1. Black Christmas (2006) (Weinstein)
2. Born on the Fourth of July (Universal)
3. Breach (Universal)
4. Bruce Almighty (Universal)
5. Daylight (Universal)
6. Harsh Times (Weinstein)
7. Liar Liar (Universal)
8. Living Landscapes: The World's Most Beautiful Places (Customflix)
9. Monty Python's The Meaning of Life (Universal)
10. Sneakers (Universal)
5. Blood & Chocolate (Sony)
6. Cruel Intentions (Sony)
7. Daddy's Little Girls (Lionsgate)
8. Ghost Rider (Sony)
9. Primeval (Buena Vista)
10. Seven Years in Tibet (Sony)

June 15, 2007

11. Uncommon Bach (Surround Records)
(none)

June 19, 2007

(none)
11. Bridge to Terebithia (Buena Vista)

June 26, 2007

12. American Me (Universal)
13. Army of Darkness (Re-issue) (Universal)
14. Being John Malkovich (Universal)
15. The Big Lebowski (Universal)
16. Bulletproof (Universal)
17. Dead Silence (Universal)
18. Deep Purple: Live at Montreux 2006 (Rhino)
19. Freedom: Vol. 1 (Bandai Visual)
20. Mallrats (Universal)
21. Meet Joe Black (Universal)
22. Mystery Men (Universal)
23. Santana: Hymns for Peace - Live at Montreux 2004 (Rhino)
24. Unleashed (Re-issue) (Universal)
25. The Watcher (Universal)
26. Yes: Live at Montreux (Rhino)
(none)

July 3, 2007

(none)
12. Flatliners (Sony)
13. The Patriot (Extended Cut) (Sony)

July 10, 2007

27. Billy Madison (Universal)
28. Dante's Peak (Universal)
29. The War (Universal)
30. The Wedding Date (Universal)
(none)

July 17, 2007

(none)
14. The Fifth Element (Remastered) (Sony)
15. Premonition (Sony)
16. Waiting... (Lionsgate)
17. Wild Things (Sony)

July 24, 2007

31. The Bourne Identity (Universal)
32. The Contract (First Look)
33. Hot Fuzz (Universal)
34. In Good Company (Universal)
35. The Nutty Professor 2: The Klumps (Universal)
36. Scent of a Woman (Universal)
37. Streets of Fire (Universal)
18. Weeds: Season Two (Lionsgate)

July 31, 2007

38. Darkman (Universal)
39. Sea of Love (Universal)
40. Shaun of the Dead (Universal)
19. IMAX: Roving Mars (Disney)

August 7, 2007

(none)
20. Are We Done Yet? (Sony)
21. Arlington Road (Sony)
22. Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (Sony)

August 14, 2007

41. Erin Brockovich (Universal)
42. Meet the Fockers (Universal)
43. Mercury Rising (Universal)
44. What Dreams May Come (Universal)
23. Doctor Strange (Lionsgate)
24. The Lookout (Disney)
25. Vacancy (Sony)
26. Wild Hogs (Buena Vista)

August 21, 2007

(none)
27. Immortal Beloved (Sony)
28. National Lampoon's Van Wilder (Lionsgate)
29. Perfect Stranger (Sony)

August 28, 2007

45. Dawn of the Dead (2004) (Universal)
46. Heroes: Season One (Universal)
47. The Hurricane (2000) (Universal)
48. Notting Hill (Universal)
(none)

September 4, 2007

(none)
30. Remember the Titans: Director's Cut (Buena Vista)

September 11, 2007

(none)
(none)

September 18, 2007

49. Elizabeth (Universal)
(none)

September 25, 2007

(none)
(none)

source: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=856401

and the BR side really has some crap titles coming down the road. Universal has some good ones. In all Honesty, Warner than Paramount are putting out the best titles to date.

Riiiiight none of the Universal titles are crap at all... :rolleyes:

All the titles below are top quality flicks that are instant classics...

47. The Hurricane (2000) (Universal)
48. Notting Hill (Universal)
12. American Me (Universal)
16. Bulletproof (Universal)
17. Dead Silence (Universal)
18. Deep Purple: Live at Montreux 2006 (Rhino)
19. Freedom: Vol. 1 (Bandai Visual)
21. Meet Joe Black (Universal)
22. Mystery Men (Universal)
23. Santana: Hymns for Peace - Live at Montreux 2004 (Rhino)
24. Unleashed (Re-issue) (Universal)
25. The Watcher (Universal)
26. Yes: Live at Montreux (Rhino)
28. Dante's Peak (Universal)
29. The War (Universal)
30. The Wedding Date (Universal)
32. The Contract (First Look)
33. Hot Fuzz (Universal)
34. In Good Company (Universal)
35. The Nutty Professor 2: The Klumps (Universal)
36. Scent of a Woman (Universal)
37. Streets of Fire (Universal)
39. Sea of Love (Universal)
40. Shaun of the Dead (Universal)
1. Black Christmas (2006) (Weinstein)
3. Breach (Universal)
5. Daylight (Universal)
6. Harsh Times (Weinstein)
8. Living Landscapes: The World's Most Beautiful Places (Customflix)

Movie taste is subjective and either side could make that argument. I could argue that there is more quality on the Blu side because more of the movies on that side are movies I enjoy.

Looks like you bet on the wrong horse didn't you?

Maybe you missed the forum description:
This area covers HD DVD software. If you are not here for HD DVD, move on.

Riiiiight none of the Universal titles are crap at all... :rolleyes:

Movie taste is subjective and either side could make that argument. I could argue that there is more quality on the Blu side because more of the movies on that side are movies I enjoy.

Please... both sides have their fair share of bad movies

Blu-Ray Exclusives...

Saw
Saw 2
Saw 3
Final Fantasy: Spirits Within
Pearl Harbor
Little Man
Crank
Fly Boys
Stealth
Basic Instinct II
Ghost Rider
Into the Blue
Ultraviolet
A Knight's Tale
Silent Hill


...come to mind instantly

Riiiiight none of the Universal titles are crap at all... :rolleyes:

All the titles below are top quality flicks that are instant classics...

47. The Hurricane (2000) (Universal)
48. Notting Hill (Universal)
12. American Me (Universal)
16. Bulletproof (Universal)
17. Dead Silence (Universal)
18. Deep Purple: Live at Montreux 2006 (Rhino)
19. Freedom: Vol. 1 (Bandai Visual)
21. Meet Joe Black (Universal)
22. Mystery Men (Universal)
23. Santana: Hymns for Peace - Live at Montreux 2004 (Rhino)
24. Unleashed (Re-issue) (Universal)
25. The Watcher (Universal)
26. Yes: Live at Montreux (Rhino)
28. Dante's Peak (Universal)
29. The War (Universal)
30. The Wedding Date (Universal)
32. The Contract (First Look)
33. Hot Fuzz (Universal)
34. In Good Company (Universal)
35. The Nutty Professor 2: The Klumps (Universal)
36. Scent of a Woman (Universal)
37. Streets of Fire (Universal)
39. Sea of Love (Universal)
40. Shaun of the Dead (Universal)
1. Black Christmas (2006) (Weinstein)
3. Breach (Universal)
5. Daylight (Universal)
6. Harsh Times (Weinstein)
8. Living Landscapes: The World's Most Beautiful Places (Customflix)

Movie taste is subjective and either side could make that argument. I could argue that there is more quality on the Blu side because more of the movies on that side are movies I enjoy.

I'm sorry but I had to drop one comment in here...Scent of a Woman is not a classic??? WTH are you smoking? Shaun of the Dead??? Perfect Brit humor.

EDIT: I'm format neutral, but it really makes me LOL when I see how far people will go to boo-hoo the content on the opposing format. Several of those movies you listed are movies that I'd buy.

Quite frankly, it pays to be neutral because there is so much dang QUALITY content out there to buy on BOTH formats, that I'm trying to play catch-up most of the time.

I'm sorry but I had to drop one comment in here...Scent of a Woman is not a classic??? WTH are you smoking? Shaun of the Dead??? Perfect Brit humor.

EDIT: I'm format neutral, but it really makes me LOL when I see how far people will go to boo-hoo the content on the opposing format. Several of those movies you listed are movies that I'd buy.

Quite frankly, it pays to be neutral because there is so much dang QUALITY content out there to buy on BOTH formats, that I'm trying to play catch-up most of the time.

I laughed my a$$ of at parts of Mystery Men, and own it on SD DVD. Really enjoy Dante's Peak, predictable but entertaining, and only about 100 minutes long. Important when you have limited time for movies after kids go to sleep, 100 minute action movies are a nice option.

I am sure there are many more "worthless" titles that some people are too embarassed to admit they enjoy.

We should all buy and watch what we like, who cares if some guy on the net you have never met thinks your movies suck, maybe he sucks. LOL

Doug

No way! I can't afford everything that is coming out. I swore I would not buy catalog titles, but watching my old favorites in Hd makes me smile throughout the entire film. It truly is a joy to see them restored, like watching again for the first time.

Riiiiight none of the Universal titles are crap at all... :rolleyes:

All the titles below are top quality flicks that are instant classics...

47. The Hurricane (2000) (Universal)
48. Notting Hill (Universal)
12. American Me (Universal)
16. Bulletproof (Universal)
17. Dead Silence (Universal)
18. Deep Purple: Live at Montreux 2006 (Rhino)
19. Freedom: Vol. 1 (Bandai Visual)
21. Meet Joe Black (Universal)
22. Mystery Men (Universal)
23. Santana: Hymns for Peace - Live at Montreux 2004 (Rhino)
24. Unleashed (Re-issue) (Universal)
25. The Watcher (Universal)
26. Yes: Live at Montreux (Rhino)
28. Dante's Peak (Universal)
29. The War (Universal)
30. The Wedding Date (Universal)
32. The Contract (First Look)
33. Hot Fuzz (Universal)
34. In Good Company (Universal)
35. The Nutty Professor 2: The Klumps (Universal)
36. Scent of a Woman (Universal)
37. Streets of Fire (Universal)
39. Sea of Love (Universal)
40. Shaun of the Dead (Universal)
1. Black Christmas (2006) (Weinstein)
3. Breach (Universal)
5. Daylight (Universal)
6. Harsh Times (Weinstein)
8. Living Landscapes: The World's Most Beautiful Places (Customflix)

Movie taste is subjective and either side could make that argument. I could argue that there is more quality on the Blu side because more of the movies on that side are movies I enjoy.

Universal has some good titles, I guess you missed the some part, and that WARNER and PARAMOUNT have done the best so far with their titles. WARNER is probably the best, but I guess you chose to ignore that, for arguement's sake. Please actually read before you make a wide sweeping ignorant post.

Are any other HD DVD folks concerned about titles???
I'm very concerned about the titles sitting on my shelf that I haven't had time to get to yet.

I'm very concerned about the titles sitting on my shelf that I haven't had time to get to yet.

LOL I second that! When oh when will I have the time to watch all the movies I keep buying en masse?

The two titles I am waiting for are the LOR and Star Wars series. Does anyone know when they will launch and in what format?

The two titles I am waiting for are the LOR and Star Wars series. Does anyone know when they will launch and in what format?

LotR is a New Line property. They are supposedly going to be releasing in both formats, but to date have not announced anything on either. I wouldn't expect those for another year or so at least.

Star Wars is distributed by Fox, who is BD-exclusive. But it's a case where Lucas calls the shots and can release it any old way he wants to, so it's up in the air as to what eventual format it would land on. Keep in mind that he waited 7 years to release it on standard DVD. I wouldn't hold your breath for it to show up in HD any time soon.


The easiest way to tell who owns a title is just to check the back of the existing DVD. The studio info is right there. Some titles do change hands every now and then, but things like LotR and SW are pretty solid.

I wouldn't worry about the imbalance until Fox and MGM return to the BD-releasing fold. Until then, Universal should--in the short term anyway--be able to keep up with Sony and Disney.

However, if the return happens in the Fall time when it appears the BD releases will all kick it up again (in time for the holidays I suppose), then HD DVD may look like it's standing still again (re: The Release-less Window of January-March 2007).

LotR is a New Line property. They are supposedly going to be releasing in both formats, but to date have not announced anything on either. I wouldn't expect those for another year or so at least.

Star Wars is distributed by Fox, who is BD-exclusive. But it's a case where Lucas calls the shots and can release it any old way he wants to, so it's up in the air as to what eventual format it would land on. Keep in mind that he waited 7 years to release it on standard DVD. I wouldn't hold your breath for it to show up in HD any time soon.


The easiest way to tell who owns a title is just to check the back of the existing DVD. The studio info is right there. Some titles do change hands every now and then, but things like LotR and SW are pretty solid.

Thank You for the informative thoughtful post. :)

This is funny, I just got a PS3 and to be honest there are only a hand full of BD exclusive movies I even want.

Enemy of the state, maybe the POTC ones for my GF and thats it. Maybe the x-men series to show off the HD, but I already have so many amazing HD-dvd's that do that. Out of that huge list of movies they have there is almost nothing worth getting.

This is funny, I just got a PS3 and to be honest there are only a hand full of BD exclusive movies I even want.

Enemy of the state, maybe the POTC ones for my GF and thats it. Maybe the x-men series to show off the HD, but I already have so many amazing HD-dvd's that do that. Out of that huge list of movies they have there is almost nothing worth getting.

7 months, I own at least 100 HDDVD and probably 70 BR titles. As I said before, the BR titles are for the most part bad with a few nice ones thrown in. Universal is better, but in all honesty, Warner and Paramount are realesing amazing titles so far, Flags, Letters to Iwa, 300, Untouchables, Purple Rain, Top Gun, Blood Diamond, The Warriors, The whole Jack Ryan. Warner gets special credit for realesing all the older movies like the Searchers, Rio, Battle, Road Warrior. Great movies aren't all about the latest big weekend IMHO...

This is funny, I just got a PS3 and to be honest there are only a hand full of BD exclusive movies I even want.

Enemy of the state, maybe the POTC ones for my GF and thats it. Maybe the x-men series to show off the HD, but I already have so many amazing HD-dvd's that do that. Out of that huge list of movies they have there is almost nothing worth getting.

To you maybe, but to the majority of us neutral folks there is plenty of content to be had on both formats.

The two titles I am waiting for are the LOR and Star Wars series. Does anyone know when they will launch and in what format?

Yeah, waiting...you, me and the entire world!

I believe LOTR will get to HD DVD relatively soon but Star Wars is all hush-hush.
:mad:

Honestly! It's quite the opposite for me. I have so many titles that I am looking foward to and many more that are already out that I have yet to pick up.

Are any other HD DVD folks concerned about titles??? YES...my problem is there is too many good titles coming out in HD DVD...and I'm going broke. :D

Are any other HD DVD folks concerned about titles??? YES...my problem is there is too many good titles coming out in HD DVD...and I'm going broke. :D

:D

:mad: too many titles. no money for new projector. :confused:

HD DVD camp will face a stiff competition when the below titles are released in BD.

1. Spiderman 1, 2 & 3
2. Kill Vol 1 & 2
3. ID4
4. I-Robot
5. Titanic
6. POTC-3
7. Minority Report
8. Godzilla

HD DVD camp will face a stiff competition when the below titles are released in BD.

1. Spiderman 1, 2 & 3
2. Kill Vol 1 & 2
3. ID4
4. I-Robot
5. Titanic
6. POTC-3
7. Minority Report
8. Godzilla

Godzilla? LOL, plus the Weinsteins own Kill Bill The Whole Bloody Affair so thats a non factor. The Other titles though definitely, except maybe Titanic, I know its still the all time top grosser at the box office but most Blu-ray consumers are PS3 owners don;t know if they will be attracted to that one.

And to the OP make sure to buy or at least rent Knocked Up when its released best movie I've seen this year.

HD DVD camp will face a stiff competition when the below titles are released in BD.

1. Spiderman 1, 2 & 3
2. Kill Vol 1 & 2
3. ID4
4. I-Robot
5. Titanic
6. POTC-3
7. Minority Report
8. Godzilla
Not all of those will be BD exclusive....some will be also released in HD DVD.

Quite frankly, I only see 2 of those I'd get.

HD DVD camp will face a stiff competition when the below titles are released in BD.

1. Spiderman 1, 2 & 3
2. Kill Vol 1 & 2
3. ID4
4. I-Robot
5. Titanic
6. POTC-3
7. Minority Report
8. Godzilla

What about The Patriot Extended Cut? Am I the only guy who liked that movie? Thats one of the only upcoming BD exclusive titles I'm envious of...it should do well for BR.

HD DVD camp will face a stiff competition when the below titles are released in BD.

1. Spiderman 1, 2 & 3
2. Kill Vol 1 & 2
3. ID4
4. I-Robot
5. Titanic6. POTC-3
7. Minority Report
8. Godzilla

According to IMDB Paramont Home Video has the US distribution rights for DVD. That means a HD DVD press. :D

My personal problem is risking spending too much money on too many titles, when personally I need to save money right now, so it's really hard. I'm doing the best to keep away from starting to buy through Amazon, with all the titles availible, free shipping, lowered prices, ease of use.... if i start buying amazon, my money is out the window.

But really us HD-DVD folks have ALOT to worry about, I mean what will happen when amazing movies like Ghost Rider, and the Grudge 2 come out! :eek: I mean I don't think E.T. , Jurassic Park or Jaws could stand a chance in the wake of The Grudge 2, better prepare to ebay my player now.

Seriously though, there are less then a dozen titles that Sony have made I would purchase, really Disney is the only BD company I care about for titles.