I bought a PS3 mostly as a movie player.

I have bought exactly zero movies for it (yet).

I joined Netflix instead.

I bought no games for it (yet).

I did buy the remote.

Due to work, I have had little time to watch movies yet, but I'll expect to see John Wayne on the big screen (100" FP) either tonite or tomorrow :)

I'm part of the reason that the attach rate discussions come up. I account for a net zero of software. Sure there's both games and moves that I'm interested in- most just aren't out yet :)

I'll admit that I do not feel the need to buy much software right now- I'm not going to double dip unless there is a really compelling reason to do so (right now, there is not- at least for me). I'll rent instead. As more titles arrive, I'll eval at that time. Plus with a baby due in a month, This makes the most sense to me right now.

However I'm really impressed with it so far- the engineering is remarkable (compared to the 360). The design is beautiful- what's with the 80's retro designs in electronics these days anyhow?

Shouldn't your "I (heart) PS3" thread be posted in the appropriate Blu-Ray or PS3 forum?

Shouldn't your "I (heart) PS3" thread be posted in the appropriate Blu-Ray or PS3 forum?


Your being a little unfair to the OP.

I really think the bigger issue here is that the price point for many of the titles on HD DVD and Blu-ray is out of line.

Like the OP I prefer to use online rental due to the cost savings and not wanting to spend $25-$30 on catalog titles. I bought some newer releases through Amazon and Best Buy sales, but overall rental is the way to go unless it is a must have title.

I have hundreds of DVDs and probably 30-40 sitting on my shelf that I have not watched yet. It just made me realize how little value I get out of purchasing these shiny discs.

I agree that renting is the rational thing to do. However as a HD DVD owner I am once again buying, if only to support the format.

Cheers,

Grant

I mostly rent, games and movies. I use Netflix and Blockbuster Total Access.

I have only purchased 5 bd movies and 2 physical games. I have purchased a few of the downloadable titles.

I do plan to purchase more games in the future, and more movies when more quality kids movies are released.

edit: Blockbuster and Netflix do purchase BDs, so there is revenue generated for the studios based on rentals by us.

I primarily rent as well... own ~5 hd-dvd's.

but i also do the same thing with my dvd's... primarily rent and own 15 dvd's. The only ones I buy are the big releases like lord of the rings where I will watch it more than once.

Shouldn't your "I (heart) PS3" thread be posted in the appropriate Blu-Ray or PS3 forum?

If you don't wanna discuss the topic at hand (attach rates and reasons for not buying media) move on.

As for the OP I agree netflix has made renting cheap and easy. I love to collect things and I have purchased many DVD's over the last few years but I think this go around I am going to be more selective.

I'd like to also add something to the OP's experience. Several months ago Netflix stocked a very small quantity of each Blu-Ray and HD-DVD release. Most titles would read "long wait" for weeks on end. Recently I have not had much of a problem with this except maybe on the first few days of a new release.

When the waits at Netflix were long... I found myself purchasing much more HD media than I have recently. Now I only pick it up if it's something I want in my collection. No more purchases of titles like Miami Vice or RV for me just because they are HD. Rent and return. :)

I agree 100%. I have the HD DVD addon for the 360, and I have bought exactly 4 HD DVD's. I will possibly buy a few more, but I am not buying anywhere near the number I did with DVD's. In the early DVD era, I was buying them left and right, and managed to get quite a collection.

However I have seen the folly of my ways. It just doesn't make sense for me to buy anything that is not a top favorite of mine. The ONLY reason to buy, is if it is a movie that I want to be able to pop in at any time. For every other movie, I can get it from Netflix in 1 to 2 days, no problem.

I know I horrify those who feel we have to "support" the formats, and I probably horrify the studios and Consumer Electronics manufacturers as well, but I am not going to buy as many HD DVD's/Blu-Ray disks as I did DVDs. It is just not going to happen. Not when I can rent from my "Great Remote Library" (Netflix).

Downloads are also a great option. If Netflix gets their act together with their online movies, and has them available in close to HD, then I will be happy. The XBOX marketplace is already another great option, and I have watched some great looking HD movies there.

If I can get a movie for up to $5 each time I view it, and I have to pay $30 to buy it, then I have to watch it more than 6 times to make it worthwhile. There are only a few movies that fit that bill. I know there are collectors, but I am a movie lover, not a collector. I am happy with Netflix and online options for the most part.

Actually my rental experience is the opposite with Blockbuster online. I typically wait weeks or months for an HD DVD movie to finally get to me. Most of the newer releases (90 days or newer) are long long waits.

This has actually had me buying titles lately that I would normally not buy, because I am starved for content.

I bought Breach and Smoking Aces today, two titles I would normally rent and return.

This has actually had me buying titles lately that I would normally not buy, because I am starved for content.

I bought Breach and Smoking Aces today, two titles I would normally rent and return.

Hungry for content? :( Sounds like your hunger strike is calling for Blu Ray nourishment ASAP!

Hungry for content? :( Sounds like your hunger strike is calling for Blu Ray nourishment ASAP!

Just couldn't resist could ya? ;)

I am having trouble keeping my TiVo S3 from getting full (already upgraded to the 750) and watching the few movies I have purchased because I have this unnatural need to watch all of the netflix and BB blu-rays immediately and get them back in the mailbox.

Hungry for content? :( Sounds like your hunger strike is calling for Blu Ray nourishment ASAP!

And what on BD would I actually care to watch?

I'm bummed out because it's taking a long time to get rental fullfillment on Letters from Iwo Jima and Flags of our Fathers. If I'm going to buy those I can easily buy them on HD DVD as easily as buying on BD.

Honestly, BD doesn't have anything compelling right now that I feel I am missing out on.

Maybe when Fox gets back in the action and actually releases some worthwhile titles I will feel some hunger pangs for not being format neutral.

Or maybe Warner and Universal will have more than enough content that I won't care what Sony and Fox do for the next twelve months.

Hungry for content? :( Sounds like your hunger strike is calling for Blu Ray nourishment ASAP!

haha, nice one

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Really Monkey, it's ok.

I'd rather watch King Kong, Casablanca, Batman Begins and The Matrix than all of the "Pirates of the crappy movie" discs combined.

Really Monkey, it's ok.

I'd rather watch King Kong, Casablanca, Batman Begins and The Matrix than all of the "Pirates of the crappy movie" discs combined.

Of course you would simply because it isn't on HD-DVD ;) Anyways I was just joking with the pictures :) If you buy blu-ray like many other former HD-DVD only people cool, if not that is fine as well.

On a serious note King Kong sucked!! I would rather have Matrix (1 only) over Pirates DMC. I did like Pirates DMC just not nearly on the same level as the Matrix. Pirates DMC though I'll take any day over Matrix 2 and 3. Regardless they are coming to blu-ray as well as Batman Begins (hopefully a better transfer and not just a LCD port. Definitely not holding my breath on that one though.).

And what on BD would I actually care to watch?

I'm bummed out because it's taking a long time to get rental fullfillment on Letters from Iwo Jima and Flags of our Fathers. If I'm going to buy those I can easily buy them on HD DVD as easily as buying on BD.My Netflix queue says that they are shipping me Letters From Iwo Jima today. I had looked before and it showed "short wait" on Blu-ray and "long wait" on HD DVD, so I made sure it was set to the Blu-ray one and now I'm getting it. I would probably have had to wait longer if I only had HD DVD.
I'd rather watch King Kong, Casablanca, Batman Begins and The Matrix than all of the "Pirates of the crappy movie" discs combined.
Sorry, but if actually bought Smokin' Aces then your standards can't be that high.

With over 200 releases on each side I'm somewhat skeptical of anybody who finds tons of content on one format they want but claims there is close to nothing on the other format that they want and suspect that some of them are picking content based more on which format it is on than on the content itself. Maybe you aren't doing that, but it sounds at least a little bit like that.

--Darin

Well obviously I can't watch BD content since I don't have a BD player. I was at BB today and honestly didn't see any BD content that interested me enough that I would get a BD player in the near future.

As far as Smokin Aces go, I bought it because a friend who rented it said he really enjoyed it. We can watch it on HD and then I can take it and a bunch of ther 2nd tier flicks and dump them on eBay.

I was going to buy Letters from Iwo Jima and Flags of our Fathers today, but realized that I would probably be watching them by myself as my wife has ZERO interest in any kind of war movie. So I'll rent those.

300 titles and you can't find one you'd watch. Give me a break..

Put them in red cases and call them HD DVDs and you'd buy plenty, right?

300 titles and you can't find one you'd watch. Give me a break..

Put them in red cases and call them HD DVDs and you'd buy plenty, right?

Reading comprehension problems got you down?

As I said, I didn't see any BD titles at Best Buy that interested me enough that I would run out and get a BD player.

I have better things to do with $500 than spend it on a BR player to watch POTC. Now if Fox gets their act together (like actually comes out of their coma and releases something), it will be harder to avoid going neutral.

Oh ya, your "wine of the week" needs to be updated unless you'd like to start calling it "wine of the fiscal quarter". :)

300 titles and you can't find one you'd watch. Give me a break..

Put them in red cases and call them HD DVDs and you'd buy plenty, right?



Come on Jeff you should know the rules by now

1) if discussing price of players BD costs 1300$ (the most expensive one you can find) and HD DVD 50$ because a friend of a friend saw a second hand add on for that price

2) if discussing why with such a difference the sales are 60:40, then HD DVD is 400$ and BD is 500$ because there was a special on BD somewhere at some time.

3) if looking at movies in BD the cost of the movie= cost of movie+ the player (so 1300+MRSP of movie) so no movie is any good at that price

4) if looking at HD DVD movies they are all are worth getting even "Smoking Aces" because it comes in a red case.

5) if discussing movie sales then the HD DVD numbers must be * 30% to make sure we don't miss any, you must do some complicated math, every extra, movie, episode should be counted so if 10 copies of a 13 episode season and it comes with 7 featurettes, that means 200 have sold (plus the 30% to bring it to260)

You are so convinced that BD is going to win, why do you even feel the need to comment on my movie choices?

The insecurity that some of you guys exhibit is absolutely remarkable. OMG! He boughts some crappy HDs!!! Makes fun of him!! Gets him!!

You've taken a moment of candor between three people who frequent these forums talking about renting vs. buying and chosen to BASTARDIZE it with your sick twisted rant against everything HD-DVD.

Welcome to my ignore list.

and chosen to BASTARDIZE it with your sick twisted rant against everything HD-DVD.


it was not a rant it was a joke. Your whole point was that BD does not have one movie worth the price of as BD player. was that the same criteria you used for HD DVD? and if yes then what one movie was it that was worth that much?

As for the rest, I was on a roll on some of the idiotic stuff I read elsewhere, so I just added them to the list.

Fact is, NEITHER side has the really good stuff yet - those BIG movies that will grow the respective installed bases at high rates. All these guys ripping the others format while ignoring the fact that theirs doesn't exactly have the public scrambling to jump in either seems kinda lame. All the bashing, number crunching, chart posting, etc - for what? To show better stand alone sales? Big deal. Better software sales? Better software sales of what? LOTR? Gladiator? Star Wars? JP? Braveheart, etc. No? Well then, lemme know when you have THOSE movies and are selling the bejusus outta them along with affordable, fully featured players to the point where DVD is in trouble - then we'll have something...some guys are acting as if they have that now while the other side has nothing...It IS funny.

I'm really interested in catalog releases right now, stuff that is slow to trickle out.

Classic Bond
Star Wars
John Wayne movies (mostly the Rah-Rah war stuff)

Instead it seems that the studios are mainly releasing their current movies- probably because there is no additional mastering that they need to do (Digital negatives or intermediates) where all of these others need to get the Lowry treatment as the Bond catalog has.


I know that being an early adopter has it's price (content- or lack thereof) but at least I can watch DVD's where there is overwhelming content.
I've noticed that my rental patterns have changed with Netflix too- I'm putting stuff on that I would not have wasted my time on in the past. now I feel like my only investment is time as opposed to money and time.

You are so convinced that BD is going to win, why do you even feel the need to comment on my movie choices?

The insecurity that some of you guys exhibit is absolutely remarkable. OMG! He boughts some crappy HDs!!! Makes fun of him!! Gets him!!

You've taken a moment of candor between three people who frequent these forums talking about renting vs. buying and chosen to BASTARDIZE it with your sick twisted rant against everything HD-DVD.

Welcome to my ignore list.

Have you ever stopped to think for a moment that maybe your ridiculous campaign slogan message ("Enjoying HD-DVD today, instead of Blu-Ray's promises of what can be enjoyed tomorrow. ") isn't adding a little fuel to the fire? I mean someone who has something like that is just looking trouble - whether be an HD DVD or Blu-ray supporter.

Why was the thread title amended (I don't watch movies...)? Are we going to question members on whether their really movie lovers or not?

I have two young boys and my time for enjoying my HT is significantly reduced. I would like to have a private conversation with the moderator who is way off base in this case.

Actually my rental experience is the opposite with Blockbuster online. I typically wait weeks or months for an HD DVD movie to finally get to me. Most of the newer releases (90 days or newer) are long long waits.

This has actually had me buying titles lately that I would normally not buy, because I am starved for content.

I bought Breach and Smoking Aces today, two titles I would normally rent and return.
Join Netflix. :)

I'm really interested in catalog releases right now, stuff that is slow to trickle out.
I'm the same way. I'm mostly interested in older catalog titles as well as some imports (this is were Sony could really hook me), and some obscure stuff. I just bought some DVDs while reading posts here. The funny thing is, I find myself actually buying more DVDs since I bought my HD DVD player last year.
J

I'm really interested in catalog releases right now, stuff that is slow to trickle out.

Classic Bond
Star Wars
John Wayne movies (mostly the Rah-Rah war stuff)

Instead it seems that the studios are mainly releasing their current movies- probably because there is no additional mastering that they need to do (Digital negatives or intermediates) where all of these others need to get the Lowry treatment as the Bond catalog has.


I know that being an early adopter has it's price (content- or lack thereof) but at least I can watch DVD's where there is overwhelming content.
I've noticed that my rental patterns have changed with Netflix too- I'm putting stuff on that I would not have wasted my time on in the past. now I feel like my only investment is time as opposed to money and time.

One of the reasons I have not yet taken the HD player plunge is the lack of releases of films I would want to buy. I believe the reason why the studios have opted to release current stuff over "classic" oldies is because of marketplace dynamics; HD is still considered new technology and studios' marketers assume new tech is adopted and desired by a younger viewing audience. Thus, they figure they can sell the new stuff in greater quantities than the older stuff which caters to the rest of us - no matter how crappy much of it is. So, you & I have four options:
- continue to buy SD's in the hope that at least some older films will eventually turn up on HD;
- not buy anything now in anticipation more classics will be forthcoming before too long;
- grit our teeth & buy the new stuff just to have the HD viewing experience;
- wait for better hardware prices & more diversified content together.

Come on Jeff you should know the rules by now

1) if discussing price of players BD costs 1300$ (the most expensive one you can find) and HD DVD 50$ because a friend of a friend saw a second hand add on for that price

2) if discussing why with such a difference the sales are 60:40, then HD DVD is 400$ and BD is 500$ because there was a special on BD somewhere at some time.

3) if looking at movies in BD the cost of the movie= cost of movie+ the player (so 1300+MRSP of movie) so no movie is any good at that price

4) if looking at HD DVD movies they are all are worth getting even "Smoking Aces" because it comes in a red case.

5) if discussing movie sales then the HD DVD numbers must be * 30% to make sure we don't miss any, you must do some complicated math, every extra, movie, episode should be counted so if 10 copies of a 13 episode season and it comes with 7 featurettes, that means 200 have sold (plus the 30% to bring it to260)


This is so true.

Classic!

Actually my rental experience is the opposite with Blockbuster online. I typically wait weeks or months for an HD DVD movie to finally get to me. Most of the newer releases (90 days or newer) are long long waits.

Have you tried Netflix? My experience with them is pretty good so far with renting HD-DVD. Either way, BD or HD DVD, we are all early adopters and can expect delays and availability to be limited. Maybe my expectations are low because I'm just happy Netflix has committed to carrying every BD and HD DVD title published and make them available at no extra charge. I don't work for Neflix or have anything against Blockbuster. I just don't know much about what they offer in the way of HD.

Bradley

P.S. Best thing you can do regarding the usual jackals here is ignore them or otherwise don't let them get your goat. ;)

Have you tried Netflix? My experience with them is pretty good so far with renting HD-DVD. Either way, BD or HD DVD, we are all early adopters and can expect delays and availability to be limited. Maybe my expectations are low because I'm just happy Netflix has committed to carrying every BD and HD DVD title published and make them available at no extra charge. I don't work for Neflix or have anything against Blockbuster. I just don't know much about what they offer in the way of HD.

Bradley

P.S. Best thing you can do regarding the usual jackals here is ignore them or otherwise don't let them get your goat. ;)

If I thought that Netflix had substantially better turnaround time I would definitely get a membership going.

As it is Blockbuster Total Access works very well for us. I rent the HD movies I want to see, my wife takes them to the local store and exchanges them for the SD-DVDs that she wants to see (everybody wins). ;)

I won't comment about the poor behavior of some of the members here. ;)

Actually, the OP's comment about the PS3 purely as engineering marvel is dead on. As far as game machines go, here's where PS3 got it right.

1. No external power brick. The external power brick on the 360 reflects the designers inability to solve simple system engineering issues such as heat dissipation, yet the 360 still had fans and early versions had the red ring of death though the box only had DC inputs. The ability to use standard power cables enabled aesthetically pleasing placement --- cables can be hidden behind the drywall --- just try to fit the 360 power brick behind a normal drywall and you'll see what I mean.
2. A large but (usually) relatively silent fan kicking up only as temperature goes up (hardly ever in movies, VERY often in games).
3. PhotoSlideshows & SD/CF slots - makes your HDTV into a giant picture frame for pictures from digital cameras. If your giant HDTV does native 1920x1080P, the effect is breathtaking.
4. Web browser. You can play youtube.com clips.
5. Bluetooth for wireless stereo headphones for late night gaming --- MUCH better than those 900MHz static-prone things.
6. New 1.8 FW upgrade gave some DLNA server/client feaures for sharing media content in the home.
7. It's Black!!!! XBOX designers finally wised up and abandoned that green thing --- the elite's now also black. Silver, Gold, Blue, Pink, Purple, White versions would be next,

If you're an engineer and fiddled with the PS3, you can't help but be surprised by how much they squeezed into that tiny case.

Only problem : where's the games? Until they show up, it won't be long before you have to look at movies.