In response to Hard Boiled on Blu-ray from Weinstein/Genius Products.
"that this movie is standard definition on the Blu-ray game, and not in high definition." They do not plan to support Blu-ray in the sense of high defintion content. (Weinstein)

Nuts. Oh well, I guess this means i'm getting the 360 non-collectors edition.

Link?

I don't have a link, i AM the original source. You can believe it or not.

I don't have a link, i AM the original source. You can believe it or not.

Ok then...

Um, so, what do you think went wrong with Grindhouse?

I don't have a link, i AM the original source. You can believe it or not.

You need to change the thread title to read: "my speculation" or "rumors".

If you cannot prove this there needs to be some qualification of your statements.

I have an e-mail from Weinstein/Genius reps and they claim it. I can post the quote? I didn't find this news off another site.

"That is not a Blu-ray title, it’s actually standard definition on a PS3 Blu-ray game."
Steve Wegner

"Weinstein has no plans of supporting Blu-ray in the sense of actual high definition content" Steve Wegner

Or you could read this article (one among HUNDREDS that contradict you)

PS3 Stranglehold Gets High Def Hard Boiled Bonus

http://kotaku.com/gaming/cue-flock-of-doves/ps3-stranglehold-gets-high-def-hard-boiled-bonus-261127.php

if you don't like that try this one:

John Woo's 'Hard Boiled' to Make HD Debut in First Blu-ray Game/Movie Hybrid

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/High-Def_Gaming/Disc_Announcements/PlayStation_3/Midway_Games/John_Woos_Hard_Boiled_to_Make_HD_Debut_in_First_Blu-ray_Game/Movie_Hybrid_/641

Also, it should be known that obviously everyone believes it's in high defintion because it's on Blu-ray disc, so it's fair to make the assumption, but it turns out it will not be as of right now.

SpartanJohnson,

Just one question...... are you a HD-DVD supporter ??? If you are then that explains everything :p

Well, it does look like ass in the trailer, and this isn't exactly a claim of Universal or Disney going neutral.

I'm a dual format supporter, and I don't care at all which format wins, I just thought I would post what the PR rep said.

"But taking full advantage of the PS3's Blu-ray capabilities, integrated exclusively into the PS3 release will also be a full resolution, 1080p high-definition version of Woo's 1992 action classic 'Hard Boiled.'"

Link to highdefdigest quote (http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/High-Def_Gaming/Disc_Announcements/PlayStation_3/Midway_Games/John_Woos_Hard_Boiled_to_Make_HD_Debut_in_First_Blu-ray_Game/Movie_Hybrid_/641)

High Def Digest is in no way a major site. They have been wrong many times, and they post things based on assumptions and other site claims.

Such as Lost coming to Blu-ray thanks to a site claiming it, Badder Santa coming out, Casino Royale selling 100,000.

SJ's word on this is prob just as good as anyone else's. i saw the stranglehold trailer too and it was rather disappointing. they can always claim 1080p by simply pre-upscaling it to 1080p and call it 1080p.

High Def Digest is in no way a major site. They have been wrong many times, and they post things based on assumptions and other site claims.

Such as Lost coming to Blu-ray thanks to a site claiming it, Badder Santa coming out, Casino Royale selling 100,000.

But SpartanJohnson is the real deal on AVS.......or so ive heard :rolleyes:

Sorry if this topic angered anyone, that wasn't my intention. I just got it straight from the PR Rep who says it's only in standard defintion, and not high defintion on the Blu-ray game.

I don't have a link, i AM the original source. You can believe it or not.

I guess he told you this over coffee?


Now, I have no doubt that Sony would pull something like this.
In fact, I would speculate that this will be the DVD transfer run through an upconverter.
It will say 1080p, but won't have anymore detail than the SD.
Don't get me started about which version will be on there, I doubt it will be the uncut one.

But, that is still speculation, the source is me, just like you. ;)

Or you could read this article (one among HUNDREDS that contradict you)

PS3 Stranglehold Gets High Def Hard Boiled Bonus

http://kotaku.com/gaming/cue-flock-of-doves/ps3-stranglehold-gets-high-def-hard-boiled-bonus-261127.php

if you don't like that try this one:

John Woo's 'Hard Boiled' to Make HD Debut in First Blu-ray Game/Movie Hybrid

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/High-Def_Gaming/Disc_Announcements/PlayStation_3/Midway_Games/John_Woos_Hard_Boiled_to_Make_HD_Debut_in_First_Blu-ray_Game/Movie_Hybrid_/641

Now those are two bastions of all things true. :rolleyes: Is this movie coming to HD-DVD or is it already out? If so no big deal but if it isn't this just plain stinks for the next def formats.

I posted the quotes from the e-mail. Do you guys want to e-mail him concerning it?

I posted the quotes from the e-mail. Do you guys want to e-mail him concerning it?
that may kill your privilege if he finds out he was bombarded with emails b/c of you.

Yes, I'm aware of that. I just put what he said, which shouldn't be looked as nothing. I'm sure he is well aware of the project, and maybe he thought it was SD because it looked so horrible, but he said it's in standard definition on the Blu-ray game.

What's the point.. the game will be on a BD50 with the movie..games are generally 6gig big.. so it's like 40gig left for a 7 gig SD DVD release?

What's the point.. the game will be on a BD50 with the movie..games are generally 6gig big.. so it's like 40gig left for a 7 gig SD DVD release?

Is it confirmed to be on a BD50disc? If so than I gotta cry foul on SJs email connection. Seems like a waste of money for a BD50 disc.

What's the point.. the game will be on a BD50 with the movie..games are generally 6gig big.. so it's like 40gig left for a 7 gig SD DVD release?

The point is it is something for Sony to advertise as a feature, whether or not it is truely groundbreaking or the best thing since sliced bread.

Have you seen the trailer for the game/movie? They are hyping the combination pretty strongly in the trailer.

edit: Since the game is coming out on 360 and PS3, we already know how big the game can be.

If true this is pretty funny, wonder if beatboy will retract his thread saying that this release is a sign of Weinstein going neutral.

One email response from a Weinstein support representative is not very conclusive. The representative is most likely out of the loop. The game company wouldn't make it such a big deal if its just standard definition.

FYI: If true, you can send a response saying most of us won't be buying the game.

I guess he told you this over coffee?


Now, I have no doubt that Sony would pull something like this.
In fact, I would speculate that this will be the DVD transfer run through an upconverter.
It will say 1080p, but won't have anymore detail than the SD.
Don't get me started about which version will be on there, I doubt it will be the uncut one.

But, that is still speculation, the source is me, just like you. ;)
Not sure what Sony has anything to do with this game. Being published by a 3rd party company, no? And the studio releasing the was Golden Princess Film Production Limited and Buena Vista Home Video, not Sony?

FYI: If true, you can send a response saying most of us won't be buying the game.
Buying the game? Or buying the special edition?
I wasn't planning on buying the special edition version, as I already have the movie on DVD. Not really interested in replacing my existing movie collection, but expanding on it.

I'm a dual format supporter, and I don't care at all which format wins, I just thought I would post what the PR rep said.


I guess that explains this quote in the HD-DVD forum, then.

Good news for Blu-ray haters. I just recieved official word from Genius and Weinstein that this movie is standard definition on the Blu-ray game, and not in high definition."

"

Who is SpartanJohnson and what is his connection to Weinstein?

I guess that explains this quote in the HD-DVD forum, then.

SMACKDOWN!!!! :D

After seeing the trailer for the movie/game combo, I think those who are banking on a 1080p transfer from an HD source will be sorely disappointed. Sure, the trailer could just be cobbled together from the game and an SD source, but this late in the game you'd think they could provide an HD element.

I know I'm not holding my breath... it sure looks like it'll be a SD movie.

SpartanJohnson is just playing both sides, but I am glad this thread was started to get a dialog started. I just checked the PS3 video and the movie footage looks VHS quality, no joke. If this is a sample of what is to be released then I will pass. What a shame. : (

The thread title needs to be changed this is pure speculation.

I can just as easily make up a thread that says:

"I talked to a Universal PR guy and he says they are going neutral. I am the original source and can offer no proof" :rolleyes:

What rock did this guy crawl out from under? He is obviously an HD-DVD fanboy!



Until he offers official proof everyone should take this guy as a troll who made up a story and decided to bomb the blu-ray forum.

Where are his insider credentials?

thread title changed

relax gentlemen

I can just as easily make up a thread that says:

"I talked to a Universal PR guy and he says they are going neutral. I am the original source and can offer no proof" :rolleyes:



A certain member did make numerous posts to this effect and asserted it as fact.

Check out this from IGN today:

the Collector's Edition of Stranglehold on the PS3 will include Hard Boiled on the disc in full HD. Yes, you read that correctly - John Woo's classic action film starring the one and only Chow Yun Fat will be right there on the disc. We asked a Midway rep about sampling specifics, and while final compression and bit rate stats aren't available on the movie, we do know that it is being re-mastered in high-definition for the transfer.

Looks like someone has been played.
Better check that email address! ;)

Full link here:

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/789/789147p1.html

" it is being re-mastered in high-definition for the transfer. "
Why did the PS3 store trailer not say anything about Hard Boiled being in HD ?

/skeptic
/I hope the Midway rep was not mislead and the IGN article is correct.

I guess that explains this quote in the HD-DVD forum, then.

lmao, burn!

Didnt anyone notice the game trailer did not say it was in high def also, the midway site says nothing as well, it seems like all these "official links" are just assumptions that it will be in 1080p. I am not saying this is the FOR SURE way it's going to be, but Steve Wegner is "positive it's in standard defintion" and I made sure that's what he meant by asking if it was going to be DVD quality rather than high definition, and he said "yes".

Didnt anyone notice the game trailer did not say it was in high def also, the midway site says nothing as well, it seems like all these "official links" are just assumptions that it will be in 1080p. I am not saying this is the FOR SURE way it's going to be, but Steve Wegner is "positive it's in standard defintion" and I made sure that's what he meant by asking if it was going to be DVD quality rather than high definition, and he said "yes".


Guess I'm alone in not caring either way.

Oh my God, Hard Boiled is not going to be high def on BD! OMGZ! How will I live?

Please. Don't care.

That said, I think it's a little deceptive for you to say, "What? I'm not biased," on the BD forum, then go to the HD DVD forum and cheer, "Good news, pals! No high def for zee BD foo's!"

That, I think is a little off. You might consider that the same people who read the BD forums here can also read the HD DVD forums, too. Or did you want to cause a problem? ;)

I don't care about the movie, I care about how you're delivering your "news." Don't start pointless flamewars over average movies.

I said "Good news for Blu-ray haters. I just recieved official word from Genius and Weinstein that this movie is standard definition on the Blu-ray game, and not in high definition."

I'm sure people who dislike Blu-ray will enjoy the news. I did not call them my pals, and I just said it was releasing in standard def with out calling Blu-ray anything negative.

Well next time I won't share, I don't care about this movie at all. I just thought I would let everyone know what a PR Rep said and confirmed to me several times to make sure we were on the same page. He didn't say "I'm pretty sure" he said it's in standard defintion on the Blu-ray game, and Weinstein also has no plans to release high definition content on Blu-ray disc.

Well next time I won't share, I don't care about this movie at all.

Well, let's hope this is at least true.

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