In seems Infocus will soon be announcing their 1 Chip DLP 1080 Projector, IN82.

I have heard that they will also be offering a 3 Chip DLP 1080P projector soon.

Has anyone else heard this?

Haven't heard about a three-chip from Infocus until now but I haven't been following this forum on a daily basis. There is a thread on the new single-chip DLP from Infocus but it has been quiet for a while.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=834499

Edit. A big duh to me. You started that thread as well. :o :o :o

Oh well whatever it takes to get the Infocus talk going again. :D

I want more information and I want it now! :cool:

Just heard today.... no 3 chip DLP 1080P any time soon.

Only the single chip that has been discussed and the original spec I was told are not going to happen.

They are just about giving their three chip 720p machine away. Given their financial position, I can't see them taking a gamble on making a profit developing, producing and selling a three chip 1080p machine.

Further, they are in no position to invest substantial R&D to make a single TI chip machine much better than those already on the market.

What what projector would provide a better picture the Infocus 3 CHIP SP777 or the new JVC RS1?

I realize it is 720P vs 1080P, but the majority of my viewing will be HDTV sports and some HDTV series like 24.

Thanks for any input.

It depends. each machine has its stengths and weaknesses. How large a screen? How far do you sit away? What is the viewing environment? Most HDTV sports are 720p.

They are just about giving their three chip 720p machine away. Given their financial position, I can't see them taking a gamble on making a profit developing, producing and selling a three chip 1080p machine.

Further, they are in no position to invest substantial R&D to make a single TI chip machine much better than those already on the market.

I agree with Mark. I don't believed that they can afford to take that financial risk.

MMC57-

When you say the original spec you were told isn't going to happen, are you referring to the one chip? What spec you were first told will it not meet? Any idea on release date?

Thanks,
Bob

Mark-

My Lord! IF is virtually giving the SP777 away. $4000 at the IF Store! Though on back order. The SP7210 is $3k.

When I checked the store I can't find it...

Have to search specifically... found it.

Robert,
Thats the SP777 "lens only" that is $4k at the IF store.
But the 7210 is now about $2K at authorized dealers.

MMC57-

When you say the original spec you were told isn't going to happen, are you referring to the one chip? What spec you were first told will it not meet? Any idea on release date?

Thanks,
Bob

I'm guessing the 2000 lumens and what, 100,000:1 contrast that nobody believed anyway.

df481-

You're absolutely right. IF has no auth. retailers for the 777. It's not sold at IF's store, so I guess it's gone.

Any of the regular infocus home theater dealers can get the 777.

Distro claims I can order on if I want to.

I'll check with my distributor on Monday. The MSRP is $9999 and the dealer margin is small. Infocus cut the price and cut the dear margin by 15% or so. I'll find out what lens comes with it.

What they call there standard zoom lens comes with it. 1.44-1.8x the width of the screen to calculate the distance.

The 7210 is going super cheap on woot today.

Mark-

My Lord! IF is virtually giving the SP777 away. $4000 at the IF Store! Though on back order. The SP7210 is $3k.


Good luck finding the 777 anywhere. I live in the DC area and at best there is one dealer around me.

The 777 is still available. Just checked with my distributor and Infocus. Infocus dealers go through a distributor. Finding one on display might be a problem but the distributor near DC has a unit his dealers can use for a demo.

Saw the new 1080p projector today and it was asked in our session about a 3 chip 1080p. Reply was that they estimated the cost would be $30k (sounded high to me) and that it was really out of their market to do that again after slow sales initially of the 777.

The new projector is impressive and info should be out officially in about a week...

Which projector would you choose... SP777 (720P) or the new IN82 (1080P)?

It depens. What size screen? How close do you sit? What do you primarily watch? The 777 is a higher quality machine, brighter and with a better lens. Its also more epensive than the 1080p machine.

I am looking at a 100" diagonal screen (16x9),

The seats will be about 17 feet front the screen.

The primary use will be for HD sports and some HD series like 24.

Movies will be of a secondary nature.

We only have 8 foot ceilings so the actually size of the 777 is a concern as I would like to get the projector as tight to the ceiling as possible, my layout at the present time has the top of the screen 8 inches from the ceiling with the top of the frame at 5 inches from the ceiling.

This will locate the bottom of the screen about 36 inches from the floor which will allow me to mount the center channel speaker below and also locate my sub-woofer in on the center line of the screen.

Cost is an a primary issue, I am looking for High Picture quality first.

Since my main sources will be 720P and 1080i content I am not sure if I will benefit from a 1080P projector.

I would like to know if using a video processor like the DVDO iScan VP50 to upconvert YD signals to 1080P and then displaying them on a 1080P projector would provide me with a "Significantly" better picture as compared to the the PQ I would get from the 777 with a HD source.

Thanks for any help and suggestions.

This is pretty close to my situation as well. I currently have the 7210 at about 13 or 14 feet from a 100" Dalite HCCV, and I sit about 14 feet back. It's an open family room with ambient light issues. I think a brighter projector would improve daytime viewing. I know that the Firehawk's superior ambient light rejection would improve daytime viewing as well, and I might make that change, but I do like how good the Dalite looks when viewing off angle. Better blacks would be nice, but that's less important to me than improving how the picture looks when some lights are on or some daylight is finding its way in.

I do have the Toshiba XA2 HD DVD and HD Tivo, so it would be nice to take advantage of a 1080p machine. And it sounds like the IN82 will be brighter than the 7210, so I was thinking that I'd grab the IN82 when it comes out this summer. But if the 777 has better optics and more light output, maybe that's the way I should be going. What do you think?

I think both of you guys would benefit from the 777. With the standard lens that comes with it, for an 87 inch wide screen, thirteen feet with would be the longest throw. given the 17 ft viewing distance, 720p would show no grid lines. Most HD sports are 720p.

I would disagree with the above.

As you said, "Cost is an a primary issue"

therefore, unless you have serious light problems, I can not see spending 4-6x the cost to get the 777 for only a 100" screen.

At 17' feet for a 100" screen, any good $1000-$2000 720p unit should work well, (ie IF 7210, Sharp 12000)

I have a 777 on a 110 Firehawk. Love it. It's a great projetor, the first I've owned that cured my upgradeitus. At 110", I use a ND2 to cut it's light. Natively, with a new bulb, it would be way to bright for a 100" screen, unless you want to watch it in sunlight ;). But, with a filter, you can adjust, at least in steps, as the bulb ages. Dealer cost on a 777 has dropped significantly, and some "custom installers" can get one if they want to. Whether or not it's IF's "official" policy, it can be done. Point being, you may not have to pay 4x the price to get one. That said, I agree for a 100" screen there are alternatives. But, for huge light output in a lot of ambient light, it's a superior PJ to a low(er) end 720 single chip. Before 1080, I'd venture to say there were 2 PJ's who were the very top of the line 777 being one of them. The C3X was the other one, but it cost even more than a 777 with a stock lens (still does as far as I know). 3-chip DLP isn't the same as single chip. It's a very, very nice picture. Unfortunately for me ,the only current replacement candidate is a HT5000 ($$$ :().

Cheers,
Scott

I think he meant cost is "not a" priority issue. He typed "an a". The next sentence said he is looking "for high picture quality first".

Sorry guys I meant to say "Cost is not a primary issue"

I am replacing my 64" Elite (710) RP CRT in our basement HT and thought a FP system would be nice.

However I have two plasmas in our home 50 Elite (1130) in our family room and a 60 Elite (1540) in our master bedroom.

The PQ on these units has raised ny PQ standard.

I "think" a 3 chip DLP will more closely provide a PQ similiar to these plasmas.

A friend of mine has a single chip DWIN DLP and we compared it in his home with the RS-1 and we both felt that his DWIN provided a more 3-D look with just more depth to it. In fact the rep giving the demo also agreed.

For me I think DLP is the way to go... my diliema is what will serve my viewing habits better.... 777 or IN82.

Again the majority of my viewing will be HD sports.... NFL, NHL, Golf and some HD series.

Thanks for the help and comments

I could not find the 4k price at the if site. Anyone have alink?
Paul

I could not find the 4k price at the if site. Anyone have alink?
Paul

It was mentioned that was just for the lens if you needed to work with a different throw other then the lens that comes with it.

To make it clear, the current MSRP for the SP777 with the stock lens is $9,999. The ceiling mount is MSRP $199. Dealer margins have been lowered, meaning dealers have been forced to absorb part of the reduction in MSRP. The Infocus store is out of stock on the accessory lens which it had at a special price. There is no special price through the Infocus store on the SP777. Infocus apparently wants customers to buy the SP777 through it dealers.

Alan,

Any chance on a power buy for the 777?

Ken

Confirmed what mark said... just checked and its still listed at $10,000.

I would have bought one for $4000 and put it in my house.

Even thou it got pissed when I fed it a 1080P 24 source.

ken

To date Infocus has never offered PBs or special sales.